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Obama's Counterpunch

26 Jul 2007 11:42 am

Hillary Clinton is nothing if she's not the candidate of strength and experience, and Barack Obama will not concede the points. Nicked by the press after Monday night's debate, Obama's campaign has ferociously counterpunched the last two days, giving an on-camera interview to NBC News and repeating his comments this morning with a gentle taunt: prove you're different than Bush-Cheney.

"I think we've got her on her heels," one adviser bragged to me last night.

Speaking of bragging:

One thing I'm very confident about is my judgment in foreign policy is, I believe, better than any other candidate in this race, Republican or Democrat," Obama said

This bravado, according to the dogged Jake Tapper of ABC News, was Obama's at an "off-the-record" event hosted by Time Magazine in New York two nights ago. Tapper was tipped off by attendees.

Such superlatives are uncommon for presidential candidates and uncommon all the more for Barack Obama. The audacity! Well -- Obama believes it!

Obama and Clinton talk about experience in different ways. Clinton has the more conventional definition. Experience is resume; the requisites for the job. Obama's definition hinges on lived experience; varities of experience. In Obama's mind (and I am getting this from his friends, not from the ether), true experience produces wisdom; and wisdom leads to judgment, and judgment leads to, well, the ability to see around the corner on Iraq.

He told Lynn Sweet this morning:

The debate is not just about life experience, although obviously that informs my perspective. It also has to do with perspective with how the United States should project its interests and ideals around the world. it's a debate over the same conventional thinking that led people to authorize the war in Iraq without asking question versus and approach to foreign policy that allows people to ask questions and is informed by a knowledge and perspective of cultures like those in Iraq and is not trapped by a lot of received wisdom.

A Change

Tuesday, Clinton was charging at Obama; Wednesday, Obama charged back, and the Clinton campaign sent out a defensive statement from Richard Holbrooke.

Obama:

The notion that I was somehow going to be inviting them over for tea next week without having initial envoys meet is ridiculous," he said in an interview outside his Senate office. "But the general principle is one that I think Senator Clinton is wrong on, and that is if we are laying out preconditions that prevent us from speaking frankly to these folks, then we are continuing with Bush-Cheney policies."

Then:

Later Wednesday, the Clinton campaign issued a statement by former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, who is supporting her candidacy, taking issue with Obama's comments and saying she would bring an end to "the cowboy approach of the Bush years."

Comments (6)

Hi,
I know..I know..we all know. He is really beating her on the head with this, isnt he? I am actually dissapointed in Clinton's team. They should have warned her before she made that "irresponsible and naive" statement. They didnt see they were pigeonholing themselves in between Obama and Bush and allowing themselves to be nailed as hawkish and neocons (but in a dress).
This lack of foresight in seeing beyond immiediate political gains comes back to the same question of "how the he** did you support invasion of Iraq?"
For all Bush-Cheney tough talk...as soon as they started talking to North Korea..see what happened, they shut down the nukes. We as America have the leverage (if just in the name!) to sit and discuss with anyone from anywhere in the world.
Will Ms Clinton wait till she sees the chinese in Venezuela b4 she talks to Chavez?

I think it's funny that Obama has finally conceded the point that he was going to run a campaign to clean up Washington and not play politics. Clinton might not be responding right now, but Obama's name is all in the mud and I doubt his stump speech will play well with the voters after this mess.

James: Whoa! Who started this mess? HRC. What's Obama supposed to do, let her get away with it?

This so reminds me of her David-Geffen-reaction childishness. And I'm very glad he didn't let it lie.

My take, when I watched that part of the debate for the third time;
Yeah - Clinton was SLY for saying that, because she knew she could leverage her strength; that she has experience, and that he would not be able to respond in the debate.

I felt; she had come a long way since 1994, and perhaps is now better equipped than any of the others to deal with the Newt Gingriches and Karl Roves of the world.

But, dammit, it was a lie, wasn't it. She was implying something about Obama that was ridiculous. I was waiting to see if Obama would call her on it and he did. When he got the chance. Point to Obama.

And Obama's point is - his POLICY stands for change in the way we do things. Clinton, in regards to her stated diplomacy approach, and in her instinct to use dishonesty to beat an opponent in the debate - stands for BUSINESS AS USUAL.

In my book - Game, Set, Match, Obama.

This whole "expeience argument", though no doubt carefully focus group tested, is surreal. So far as I know the "expeience" of HRC consists of failing to get Health Care Reform in 1993 and failing to get it right on the dangers of going to war in Iraq--when 60% of Dem. members of Congress got it right. Doesn't seem to me to be all that strong a record to stand on. HRC could win, but of the two, only Obama is capable of re-aligning our politics and re-invigorating our democratic expeiment.