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Romney Wore Makeup; Film At Eleven

17 Jul 2007 11:15 am

I tend to agree with Glenn Greenwald, with a caveat: John Edwards's haircut was a valid story to cover, although its impact and signifiance were magnified beyond reason and sanity.

But learning that Mitt Romney's face powdered is akin to learning that George W. Bush likes to get theraputic back rubs.

The Politico found a neat little item in Mitt Romney's second quarter disclosure forms -- $300 he spent on make-up in advance of television debates. It's kind of funny for a half a second -- man wears make-up, ha-ha. $300 is close to $400, which is what John Edwards spent on a haircut.

Why doesn't John Edwards's hair equal Mitt Romney's face paint?

The primary difference is definitional: The centerpiece of Edwards's campaign is his anti-poverty efforts; he presents himself as a dedicated messenger for the cause, and he likes expensive haircuts, bought a gimungous house, etc. etc. His credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously. (The haircut was inadvertently billed to the campaign, a spokesman later said).

There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards.

Fairly or unfairly, there's also a difference in narrative timing: when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards. It's not so much interested in burying Romney right now -- many reporters think he's the Republican frontrunner.

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His credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously.

Why?

One of the worst post I've read.

"he presents himself as an ideal messenger for the cause."

Proof for this, please.

"His credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously."

This is a tautology. Your arguing that it's okay to question his credbility because his credibility comes into question.

"when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards. It's not so much interested in burying Romney right now -- many reporters think he's the Republican frontrunner."

Hunh? The press doesn't want to go after a frontrunner. Maybe so, but please explain.

And why, for that matter, doesn't the press like Edwards? Why does it throw praise at billonaires like Warren Buffet who are concerned about inequality but attempt to bury Edwards?

How does Edwards' credibility as a messenger come into question because he spends money ostentatiously? This is the justification that almost everyone has given, but I don't think it is defensible. Does he have to be poor to care about poverty? Does he have to pretend to be poor?

It also really sounds like you are defending the press corps for their dislike of Edwards and consequent slanting of news against him. When you said "fairly or unfairly," do you think that both of those are actually possibilities?

OK, so if the press corps is trying to bury Edwards why doesn't it ask questions with more substance? There are legit questions to ask of Edwards (his explanations for the IWR vote don't quite square with the votes on the amendments; if poverty is his life's cause, why the vote for the Bankruptcy Bill of 2001, why the vote against a Paul Wellstone amendment that would've created a safe haven for families who go bankrupt because of medical bills), but the national press corps focuses on haircuts!

It's a rather counter-productive way to bury a legitimate candidate, at least with the Democratic primary faithful.

You aren't the first DC type journalist I've asked this question of, but I've never gotten a decent answer.

Other questions I'd love answers to:
1. How has Hillary's experience (dating all the way back to 1993 when Bill started his presidency) helped her in the Senate? How did her experience inform her vote in 2002 for the IWR? Why didn't she defer to the very experienced Bob Graham?
2. Why do people like Obama? I'm refering to the ordinay voter, not political junkies like me. I refuse to leave it at "they just do."
3. Re: the inexperienced narrative about Obama, I've yet to see very much exploration about his thought process. The Des Moines Register editorial board meeting brought some of Obama's thought process to light. At this meeting, Obama sounded like he had 1000x the experience HRC had in 02. Why don't we hear more about how any of the candidates come to the conclusions they've come to on various pieces of legislation? There's a focus on campaign contributions, but there should be more of a focus on the candidate's explanations. Why don't reporters try to get beyond the talking points?
4. How has Romney not been tagged with the flip-flopper label in the way John Kerry was? I haven't yet seen one nightly news story about this, despite the growing YouTube library on Romney's finger in the wind politics. He's worse on this than 99.9% of politicians, which is saying something.
5. Why has the media not explored Giuliani's failures of leadership? There are many. Bloomberg is more popular than Giuliani among New Yorkers... why?
6. Giuliani and Romney have been caught getting the facts really wrong about the Muslim world. Where's the media questioning whether they're ready to be president? Could they be effective if they only look like they know what they're talking about as opposed to actually knowing something about the world?
7. Why is it that the Republican field has been allowed to get away with absolutely no major plans or initiatives? I've heard health care plans from Obama and Edwards. I've heard about urban policy from Obama and rural policy from Edwards. Clinton has talked about pre-K education. Dodd and Richardson have energy polity out. Now the plans and initiatives from the Dem candidates haven't gotten half the coverage that they should've gotten, but they've got them. It's awfully silent on the other side of the aisle.

Marc,

That's a pretty stunning confession about how our political press corps. operates.

"when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards"

What ever happened to fair, objective reporting? It saddens me to see the state we're in with our media.

I've got to start making bumperstickers:

Annoy the Media: Elect Edwards

So Franklin Roosevelt must have been a HUGE hypocrite. He had plenty of family money but he tried to help the poor...oh and his many houses were real big...and he didn't have to worry about money in retirement but he wanted to pass some law to enact Social Security. It really should have undercut "his credibility as a messenger," right?

This:

John Edwards's haircut was a valid story to cover,

and this:

the press was trying to bury Edwards

point to the depravity of political coverage these days. It was a valid story because he's an antipoverty campaigner? Why doesn't the press point out the stupidity of this "hypocrisy" issue? If he took a vow of poverty and wore a hairshirt, he'd never ever get elected. So by this line of thinking, any candidate is going to be hypocritical.

And since many pundits on TV and in print have been drooling over the "manliness" of various Republican candidates, the no doubt deafening silence on Mitt ("shoulders like a 747") Romney just compounds the stupidity of the coverage.

"Fairly or unfairly" ... I think the answer, in both cases, is quite obviously "unfairly." This isn't just "the way things are." Members of the press have proven, time and time again, that they decide to "like" or "dislike" candidates for shallow and stupid reasons, and that they let this affect their coverage (see: Election 2000). And you freely admit that emphasis on certain stories is based on whether the press is "interested" in "burying" someone. Things shouldn't be this way!

So you claim the Edwards haircut issue has saliency precisely because of "he presents himself as an ideal messenger for the cause" (which is a purely subjective judgment) but then go on to acknowledge that the press corps disdains Edwards and desires to bury him?

The story has legitimacy, albeit momentarily, to examine whether or not there is any true hypocracy or dissonance at work when measuring the man against the message-- but the problem is there is no true hypocracy, Edwards' words do not belie his actions. Within reason, his haircut was at a price paid by other campaigns for similar "superficial" needs--a point the press specifically ignores in its reporting. His home is no larger than those of other candidates.

And so the question naturally becomes, is John Edwards pretending to care about the poor?

No one has made that argument (and I honestly don't think anyone can make that argument). But if they really desire to throw Edwards under the bus, then journalists should step up and examine each candidate by a similar standard.

Does Mitt Romney really care about values? Does Obama really care about health care? Does Hillary really care about national security? Those questions are absurd because they examine the trees for the forest-- a national press corps that has taken President Bush's word on every issue even in the face of objective lying on his part now wants to take the time to examine whether a candidate for President has the proper motives for championing a cause.

To what end, I ask?

If the press hates Edwards, and if they truly desire to bury him, then the haircut and house tales should be viewed by reasonable journalists as they really are, and exposed as such-- a distraction from policy and substantive political discourse.

The press wants to pretend they cover these stories for the public good, and yet they cannot connect them to anything larger than a fuzzy notion of message dissonance, which in the end provides no assistance to a voter other than to confuse them.

Thanks for adding to the pile.

Edwards in fact says that he is not the ideal messanger. Your statement could not be more wrong. He doesn't present himself as the ideal messanger at all. But don't take it from me- watch it in this video- about a minute thirty in: http://youtube.com/watch?v=X9ZzeS5SFaA

I expect to see an update with a correction.

Change it to dedicated messanger and hope no one will notice? Smooth. We update on blogs

"The centerpiece of Edwards's campaign is his anti-poverty efforts; he presents himself as a dedicated messenger for the cause, and he likes expensive haircuts, bought a gimungous house, etc. etc. His credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously."

As Greenwald points out in response to you, numerous anti-poverty politicians in the past have been rich: see FDR, RFK.

Could you elaborate on your assertion that Edwards's "credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously"?

katie

edwards is a loser. don't get so caught up with the "ideal messenger" word. Edwards says there are two americas. it is his main cmpaign slogan and when he buys 400 dollar haircuts it make him look stupid and hypocritical.

romney and republicans are not ashamed of making money and enjoying spending it. it is that attitutded that creates jobs and pushes our economy forward. you liberals think we should feel guilty about getting a 400 buck haircut.

more seriously the main issue was not that, the MAIN ISSUE WAS THE HE USED THE CAMPAIGN MONEY THAT THOSE FROM THE 'OTHER AMERICA' GAVE HIM TO PAY FOR IT!!!!! it is one thing if it were his money, but it was from those poor people he claims to love's money that he used for it. that is an issue in my opinion.

So you claim the Edwards haircut issue has saliency precisely because of "he presents himself as an ideal messenger for the cause" (which is a purely subjective judgment) but then go on to acknowledge that the press corps disdains Edwards and desires to bury him?

The story has legitimacy, albeit momentarily, to examine whether or not there is any true hypocracy or dissonance at work when measuring the man against the message-- but the problem is there is no true hypocracy, Edwards' words do not belie his actions. Within reason, his haircut was at a price paid by other campaigns for similar "superficial" needs--a point the press specifically ignores in its reporting. His home is no larger than those of other candidates.

And so the question naturally becomes, is John Edwards pretending to care about the poor?

No one has made that argument (and I honestly don't think anyone can make that argument). But if they really desire to throw Edwards under the bus, then journalists should step up and examine each candidate by a similar standard.

Does Mitt Romney really care about values? Does Obama really care about health care? Does Hillary really care about national security? Those questions are absurd because they examine the trees for the forest-- a national press corps that has taken President Bush's word on every issue even in the face of objective lying on his part now wants to take the time to examine whether a candidate for President has the proper motives for championing a cause.

To what end, I ask?

If the press hates Edwards, and if they truly desire to bury him, then the haircut and house tales should be viewed by reasonable journalists as they really are, and exposed as such-- a distraction from policy and substantive political discourse.

The press wants to pretend they cover these stories for the public good, and yet they cannot connect them to anything larger than a fuzzy notion of message dissonance, which in the end provides no assistance to a voter other than to confuse them.

Thanks for adding to the pile.

Greenwald's response to this hypocritical POV makes an excellent point: Why is anyone who advocates for the less fortunate expected to take a vow of poverty? FDR, the Kennedys -- these folks have done a lot of good for the downtrodden in this nation, and they were/are RICH RICH RICH. In fact, they didn't even have to pull themselves out of poverty, as Edwards has. To my mind, a well-off person who is concerned about people whose lot in life is below his, and works to help better their lives, exhibits a sign of CHARACTER, not weakness or hypocrisy.

Why is Edwards a terrible advocate for the poor because he has a big house? Does he only get credit for his anti-poverty efforts if he gives away every single cent he's got in the bank and wanders the countryside in a sack cloth?

And why does Bush get a pass on advocating for the middle class because he 'clears brush' on the ranch he bought in time for the 2000 election? He's from one of the nation's most aristocratic families. (Of course, Edwards earned his millions - GWB got his from his daddy and granddad.)

Why is Fred Thompson an acceptable advocate for the middle class because he has a red pickup truck for a campaign prop? Or Guiliani - you know he's much richer than Edwards, right? And yet he's got the common-man touch? Please.

Edwards spent $400 on a haircut because he is a politician worried about his appearance in public. Romney spent $300 on makeup because he is a politician worried about his appearance in public. End of (non)story.

Since nearly all major presidential candidates talk about either "the poor" or "working families" as part of their agenda, and all are rich and live within the community of those in the same socioeconomic class, then the only ones who can safely run for the office without being accused of hypocrisy are the poor. And, hey, at least Edwards is talking about poverty; you'd never get that from millionaire Dick Cheney -- leading me to ask the obvious: Which is better, one who is rich and cares about those not as fortunate as him- or her-self (Edwards) or one who doesn't give a shit about anybody outside his own country club circle (Cheney)?

When a poor, or even middle class, person is a presidential candidate, then maybe Edwards' $400 haircut or Romney's $300 makeover will be a legitimate issue. In the meantime, it's an utter waste of the time of a so-called "journalist" to dig for examples of ostentation -- especially when those same "reporters" are studiously avoiding informing the public about what the candidates intend to do about the major challenges facing America.

I want to know what the candidates will do to make my life, and that of all Americans, better, not about their personal grooming habits and expenses.

Your argument really is quite sad. Edwards is a "hypocrite" because he focuses on poverty as an issue? Why? Just how poor does Edwards have to be before he can talk about poverty?

Greenwald hammers you in an update to his post. Hope you respond. Preferably with "You're right, how silly of me" or something to that effect.

Finally, a voice of reason!

Thanks Marc for stating the obvious ‘non-story’ that everyone seems to be covering.

Scott

Mitt Report

Mr. Ambinder claims that "His [Edwards'] credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously."

Glenn Greenwald at http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html (under Update II) specifically addresses this claim and provides a really nice explanation as to how Mr. Ambinder couldn't be more wrong.

"His credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously."

As many, including Glenn Greenwald, have pointed out, this doesn't actually follow, unless you take the stance that he should give all his money away to the poor, if he cares so much about them. Which no one actually thinks.

By way, to point it out once again: much of the expense of the haircut was travel costs for the barber, to go to Edwards; this is not such a luxury for a candidate traveling around the country on a tight schedule.

"There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards."

So Edwards better walk on eggshells, because the national press corps is once more acting like the election is taking place at their junior high? It's impossible for Edwards to avoid all possible smears that these Heathers might echo, as Gore and Kerry learned.

"It's not so much interested in burying Romney right now -- many reporters think he's the Republican frontrunner."

The current Republican frontrunner is "none of the above", so these reporters are mistaken. And why does Romney's status in this respect have anything to do with who the reporters decide it would be fun to bury?

I really think this "Edwards has no credibility for being rich and talking about poverty" is getting absurd.

What other examples can we find? How about:

Rudy Giuliani has no credibility because he advocates for war though he's never served in one.

Barak Obama has no credibility because he supports abortions even though he's never had one.

Hillary Clinton has no credibility because she supports the farm bill and she's never been a farmer.

I made that last one up. I have no idea how Hillary Clinton feels about the farm bill, but since she's never been a farmer she's got to be a hypocrite no matter what her opinion is!

Really, this gets absurd very quickly. I'm going to start calling Meet the Press every day and see if they'll book the smelly bum who lives on the sidewalk outside my house to come in and talk about poverty, because apparently he's the only one who has the "credibility" to do so. Every one else need not apply.

John Edwards didn't grow up rich. He made his own money and, as far as I'm concerned, he can spend it any damn way he wants. I don't care if he paid $4,000 for his haircuts. And he can still be interested in helping those in poverty. There's nothing hypocritical about it.

What is hypocritical is the press trying to present itself as objective while simultaneously trying to destroy one candidate or another.

Ambinder not so bright.

How in the world can someone justify the claim that how someone spends money is somehow relevant because they care about poverty? It is not as if John Edwards is supporting communism. He believes in capitalism, he just thinks that we need to do more to support those less fortunate. That is a perfectly legitimate, non-hypocritical thing for a rich person to believe.

This would be like stating that candidates for president are hypocrits for discussing plans to provide health insurance for the uninsured simply because all the candidates have insurance themselves. The most basic understanding of logic (not to mention common sense) would lead one to understand the absurdity of this. Too bad Ambinder lacks such basic intelligence.

Worse still, the claim that there is something "hypocritical" about Edwards' wealth -- now a pervasive premise of Conventional Wisdom -- is premised on a complete misunderstanding of "hypocrisy." The attribute of "hypocrisy" is one who advocates "Principle X" and then acts contrary to that principle (as in: "I believe in Traditional Marriage and I'd like you to meet my third wife," or "I believe in Traditional Marriage and I'm in a rush to make my appointment at the escort agency/to meet my young aide and mistress/to consult with my divorce lawyer").

John Edwards isn't advocating for the elimination of private property or for prohibitions on personal wealth, so his personal wealth isn't remotely "hypocritical." He is advocating for government policies designed to address the plight of America's poor. His own personal wealth -- just as was true for Robert Kennedy or Franklin Roosevelt or even Lyndon Johnson -- is irrelevant and not even remotely "hypocritical" for those who understand that term.

What Glenn Greenwald said. You'd think a Harvard grad would at least know the meaning of a basic word like "hypocrisy."

"gimungous"

And now we see why a sizable chunk of the press corps hates Edwards. A neologism like "gimungous" is only used by bratty 14 year olds who want to exaggerate the faults of people they envy, and therefore despise.

Ambinder, you were a putz when you did the Note, and you are an uber-putz now. Everybody hates the press, and this is why.

Campaign basics - you don't play into your own negative perceptions. Fair or unfair, Edwards biggest perception coming out of 2004 was the "pretty boy" image. There's a reason JibJab portrayed him in speedos; and more people saw that than watched any debate that year.

He messed up by allowing this haircut thing to happen. He should have been going to Haircuttery for the $10 special.

Romney might develop this perception. The beauty shop thing isn't a plus. But right now he doesn't have it, and there's a chance it won't stick.

Campaign basics - you don't play into your own negative perceptions. Fair or unfair, Edwards biggest perception coming out of 2004 was the "pretty boy" image.

Ambinber ought to move this to the top and claim it as his own. Do remember, in 2004 Edwards got tagged as The Breck Girl and even Kerry made jokes about how cute he was.

As for Romney, the idea that candidates get some make-up before going on television does not prompt a hold of the front page.

The national press was completely seduced by Edwards in the 2004 primaries. It was blind adoration. They bought the Son of a Mill Worker myth hook line and sinker. He was the golden boy who was going to win John Kerry the presidency by winning him the South. He was the sunny, positive campaigner, who would never get down into the mud. None of it entirely false, just enough truth to it to keep the press never looking quite deeply enough into the real politician or the real man. In the 2008 race, he might have been a whole new candidate, the press had learned so little about him in 2004. That's why it all comes as such a surprise. That's why it's all news to them.

Here is Glenn Greenwald's response to Ambinder's post

So, how much can a politician spend on a haircut? I've paid everything from $10 to $60 with tip. Was $60 ostentatious? What if I'd paid $100? I'm sure Hillary's haircuts are fairly pricey, as women's cuts tend to be more than men's. Someone should really look into that.

I think we need a haircut ethics panel.

Marc, are you actually going to address the 30+ commenters here who (1) have proven you wrong, and (2) have done so using logic? I see you've made a few more blog posts today, so you've obviously been at your computer. You will not be belittled for admitting you were wrong - in fact, I think many of us will have more respect for you if you admit the obvious.

I am so god damn sick of this meme. Please. What are only people in poverty allowed to fight it? John Edwards is rich, the man should be able to spend whatever money he has whatever way he wants. The only reason he can't is assholes like you whom seem to think the wealthy should screw the poor. And Jesus H. Christ, do you not remember he's the son of a millworker, he actually came out of poverty to be able to buy a $400 haircut? If someone like that can't fight poverty, as you seem to suggest, who the fuck else can? The homeless? Yeah they have a big microphone.

Marc, what say you about Glenn's latest update, quoting Romney:

You know I think John Edwards was right. There are two Americas. There is the America where people pay $400 for a haircut and then there is everybody else.
Doesn't Romney's consignment of Edwards to a place apart from "everybody else" qualify as hypocrisy in your book? Or are you giving him a pass because he's a Republican?

Yeah, this was a really lame post, Marc. Your logic vis a vis Edwards' haircut hypocrisy is pretty much right in line with the attacks on Al Gore for, you know, having a big house and not holding in his farts (methane!) and being tubby.
'Look! Al Gore is asking us to think about our carbon footprints, yet he's refusing to live in a tent and grown his own food in an organic garden fertilized by his own feces. What a hypocrite! Come on, Al Gore! If you were serious about global warming you would bulldoze your mansion and convert your property into a wind farm. Hypocrite!'
Oddly, the same people who hurl these criticisms at their political targets haven't the slightest interest in asking why Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Romney, and the other faux-hawks sought and acquired multiple deferments during the Vietnam War. How about focusing your laser-like investigative focus on their hypocrisy? Were you satisfied by Cheney's answer that he had "other priorities at the time"?

Brian hits upon an important point: John Edwards's anti-poverty campaign focuses on helping Americans work and receive just compensation for their work. His plan seems aimed at giving people the tools and protections they need to support their families and build their savings. Rather than giving the poor handouts, the Edwards's plan helps individuals overcome existing institutional barriers to generate wealth. And America, you can spend your money how you want to.

Yes, the $400 haircut may be a story. But it certainly isn't as big a story as the media made it.

The author of this peice does not seem to understand that there is a long tradition of rich people advocating for the poor. It is not conditional for that person to give up their wealth and become as poor as the people they are advocating for in order to have credibility. Rightly or wrongly that is what the author is pushing. He is making the case that it is understandable and excusable to go after Edwards (as Romney himself did) for an expensive haircut but not to go after Romney for his expensive facial. I think most people can understand how that argument falls apart under scrutiny. Romney too says his policies support the poor as do all the Republican candidates so an equal measure of journalistic scrutiny should be brought to bear. Nothing even close to that has happened and it is due to the attitude expressed in this article.

Why isn't anyone checking into the amount of money Hillary spends for her hair and makeup?

Change it to dedicated messanger and hope no one will notice? Smooth. We update on blogs

>>Brian hits upon an important point: John Edwards's anti-poverty campaign focuses on helping Americans work and receive just compensation for their work.

Can you? Because it seems like right here you're talking about just compensation for work, but isn't that determined by the market? And if you're enforcing a policy that says that employers must pay more than the market price, you're effectively limiting the way business owners can spend money... and giving businesses even greater incentives to 1) hire illegal immigrants (who Edwards just seems to want to turn into citizens--no word on how he's proposing to pay for the social services for that) and 2) move overseas (it should be noted that America's corporate taxation rates are among the 4 highest in the world).

I note that John Edwards spits out the half-truth that there are 45-million uninsured Americans today. What he fails to mention is that 30-40% of those are working in our country illegally. He also endorses helping small businesses, all the while threatening to put an end to the Bush tax cuts. Once more (and as is typical with the media), he fails to mention that small businesses pay taxes at the individual level and are part of this "richest 2%" that Edwards and his buddies like to single out and demonize. And these small businesses provide jobs to the impoverished he claims he supports more than Bush. Excuse me while I roll my eyes...

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Fairly or unfairly, there's also a difference in narrative timing: when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards. It's not so much interested in burying Romney right now -- many reporters think he's the Republican frontrunner.

But the press buried Gore in Fall, 2000, when he was a clear frontrunner, because, as a reporter stated, they wanted a horse race. See The Daily Howler. So the likely reason they don't want to bury Romney is one of 1) he's a Republican, 2) they don't believe he is really the frontrunner in the end, or 3) they think he is the strongest Republican in the end and they want the best horserace against the Democrat. I'm looking forward to reporting that tells me which is the actual explanation.

Why is the press so forgiving of Pretty Mitty? The man is a well known liar and phony. He pretends to be pro-life or pro-choice depending on the direction of the wind. He pretends to be a hunter when he's done little more than watch Elmer Fudd cartoons while sipping lattes in $300 dollars worth of mascara.

Is it because the press suspects Romney is their kind of phony pulling the wool over the eyes of the unwashed social conservatives, while he is "really" a good Rockefellar Republican at heart? I got news for ya, Romney doesn't have a heart.

Is this a skull and bones thing? Is this like a secret young boys tree house test? Is it that Edwards was poor and went state universities? Is he not good enough for the insiders? Is he one of those annoying social climbers? Or is it that insiders, conservative and liberals, really do hate poor people like compassionate conservative Bush does?

This post is incredibly juvenile, but the comments are terrific. Anyone of these comment makers would be better as columnists than you. But they and I are probably too busy making sense and money in our chosen professions. It's annoying to me that I have to take time out of my day to address such shoddy "journalism". Back to reading Harper's while my copy of the Atlantic gathers dust.

My question is: Why doesn't the press like Edwards? I don't quite see what's offensive about him.

If the fact that a man is wearing makeup comes as a shock to anyone, you should take a close look at most of the Senators/Congressmen on the hill. They are always wearing makeup just in case they might happen to get a photo op. So why not get a pro to apply it, hopefully Romney's not an expert makeup artist himself. Why does any of this stuff matter, both Romney and Edwards have earned their money, who cares how they spend it! What matter is how they're going to spend mine when they're in office!

A fair and balanced view of the Washington press is that much of it is incompetent and irresponsible; and the Edward's haircut story is exhibit A. You can't throw a rock in Washington without hitting a Bush lie, or a case where congress is taking care of a contributor, or a serious policy problem - and we get haircuts. One of the reasons we have this government is because reporters are stupidly repeating noise machine talking points instead of actually reporting.

It is not conditional for that person to give up their wealth and become as poor as the people they are advocating for in order to have credibility.

Not only that - the poor make surprisingly poor advocates for the poor. With wealth comes influence and power - which provides the ability to direct policy intended to help the poor.

Edward's wealth could conceivably land him the presidency. Wouldn't that put him in an extraordinary position to help the poor, if that's what he wants to do? What power to address economic disparity would he have if he gave away his personal fortune?

Several days from Marc and still no acknowledgment that he's wrong in this blog post. Bloggers owe a duty to admit when they're wrong.

"This post is incredibly juvenile" Diane Montana

Too true that but it is even more revealing. It's a journalistic own goal. It should be bronzed and put over the entrance of every school of journalism in America. It should be embossed on chain links and its author should be forced to flagellate himself until he is nothing but bloody pulp.

when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards.

how can this be just a toss off at the end of a poorly thought out post? This is a "reported blog on politics" and all you have to say about this is "fairly or unfairly"? you are a disgrace.

So only poor people can advocate for the poor. But since poor people have no money to lobby or organize with, they lose.

Thats awesome!

There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards.

Of course joo can provde names and examples for thees.
Otherwise, joo are just un frotacíonado.
So, let's see some names, wanker.

(bathe, bathe)

ahealthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards

Given that members of the press corps are employees of their respective news outlets, if they feel that they cannot do their job objectively because they are too influenced by their contempt of John Edwards to properly report on him for the benefit of their readers, they should ask their editors to be reassigned, or their editors should remove them from the John Edwards beat. I really couldn't care less that they don't like Edwards. I care that they don't know how to do their job.

Also, it would help if you could better inform us, the readers, about why the press as a bizarre animosity towards Edwards, and why this animosity never existed towards Bush and doesn't exist towards, say, Romney.

Mr. Cambinder,

I appreciate your candor. At least we'll know that there is no need to take anything you say or write of regarding any of the Presidential candidates seriously. I hope some of your colleagues who actually practice their profession as opposed to the slumber party gossiping you write about might stand and take notice of your blanket comments besmirching them and out you for the hack you confirm yourself to be. You sir are a joke.

Sincerely,

Patrick in Chicago

I attended the poverty tour stop in Pittsburgh this week-the AP incorrectly reported that there were 250 people there-I would say that there were at least 500 with standing room only-the audience was half black and half white, mostly comprised of middle class to upper middle class citizens-Enlightened voters under stand that John Edwards stand on poverty will benefit everyone-if poverty is decreased or finally abolished, it would improve our society in many obvious ways-lower taxes for prisons, healthcare, insurance premiums with less crime as well as safer streets-there are many others, but it would be a great boost for the country at large, rich or poor.

Marc Ambinder, an Atlantic associate editor, is blogging the 2008 presidential election from the roadshow

Please stop. You're hurting the country.

Ambinder, Sullivan, Yglesias: could you guys be trying any harder to get James Fallows to leave?

Bad money chases out the good.

There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards.

marc,
thank you for providing that one very significant detail and confirming what we knew all along about you gossip queens who have dominated and degraded the political discourse in this country.

you must be proud.

I've never been so disgusted with what passes for our media nowadays.

I hope you're pleased, Ambinder, because the rest of us are not. Absolutely and blatantly biased and inane.

How's that Kool Aid tasting, Marc? Can I get you a refill?

It's not so much interested in burying Romney right now -- many reporters think he's the Republican frontrunner.

Wow --- just wow...

So, the purpose of the mainstream news media is to make sure you don't say anything bad about those who you think might end up winning the next election? Please, the whole rotten lot of you, resign now and let someone with some integrity take over.

This is beyond inane. Having wealth is a disqualifier for being concerned about poverty? Am I misunderstanding something here?

Do you really think poor Americans care about John Edwards haircuts? We don't buy the reasoning that you can't fight for an AIDS cure if you don't have the disease, or campaign for stem cell research unless you have Alheimers. It would be hypocritical. Or, you can't lobby for health insurance for all Americans if you yourself have coverage, that would totally be hypocritical. Give me a break. Since when do journalists get to say who's the better candidate for the American people. We don't elect you guys. What a manipulative piece of propaganda. Move on folks, nothing to see here.

I don't know about y'all, but I sure am glad that a 2001 Harvard grad who stumbled into a dream job that set him up to do things like judge lifelong public servants on the color of their suits or the style of their hair is around to let me know just who is a proper spokesman for issues related to poverty.

OMG!
This one time!this one time! I totally got my teeth cleaned by a dentist who lacked even a single cavity!!!!!eleven!!

What a hypocrite!

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/original/marc1.jpg

Ah yes. Now it all makes sense.

Dang, Anon, you're not kidding!

Mitt Romney is paying opposition research hack Barbara Comstock (you remember Monica Goodling's patron) $15,000 per month.

Anyone got a problem with that, or shall we keep talking about haircuts and makeup?

This post shows more than anything else how politicians like FDR and JFK wouldn't get elected today. And it shows how ones like GWB do.

And these media types wonder why revenues continue to decline in their industry. Do they really think stories about rich politicians getting fancy haircuts is news? Trust me, you won't win any awards writing stories you'd find on the pages of "GQ: the D.C. edition."

At one time journalists would have hidden the fact that they have a pack mentality which leads them to "destroy" politicians based solely on personal animus. Such an allegation would have been denied vigorously and with outrage as an assault on their professional and personal ethics.

Ambinder's casual mention confirms the corruption of the people who cover politics in D.C.

He (and all his like-minded colleagues) should be restricted to covering county commission planning meetings in burgs where their damage could be limited to the locals.

I'd suggest writing the editors of The Atlantic requesting Ambinder be fired. Unfortunately, they're probably just as guilty.

Hey, I went to journalism school. Got a degree 'n everything. And this is pure crap, Mr. Ambinder. And you know it.

"Fairly or unfairly, there's also a difference in narrative timing: when the first quarter ended, the press was trying to bury Edwards..."

Wow. That is just stunning. What an amazing thing to say. Yet even more amazing is that you are equivocal about whether this is fair or not. "The press hates Edwards, so does that mean it's unfair to kick him in the jimmy whenever he walks by? I just don't know the answer to that. Only time will tell."

Unbelievable. Really just unbelievable.

You, sir, are a hack.

Are you kidding? What is the matter with you people?

Rich people cannot advocate for or try to improve conditions for others? Well, I guess by the standards of most Republican politicians, that's about right. I guess since all of our politicians have health care coverage, there's no point expecting them to try to get it for anyone else, right? Or how about the minimum wage? Maybe that's why its been such a struggle to get that increased? Because wealthy politicians are afraid of being pegged by you utterly f*%k#@g insane pundits as hypocritical? Hmmmmm?

Never mind the breath-taking admission that you all get to choose who should be the candidates and who shouldn't, and then you proceed to take down whoever you don't like by taking stupid s$#i* and pounding it to death....

I'm exhausted just thinking about the uphill battle we have to get our discourse out of the hands of the utter morons like you, Ambinder, who have hijacked and perverted the Fourth Estate...

There is a difference in the political reality: fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps doesn't like John Edwards.

Mother of fucking Christ - people like you and the "national political press" are why we have a moron for a president. Keep talking about what doesn't matter, you fool.

Campaign basics - you don't play into your own negative perceptions. Fair or unfair, Edwards biggest perception coming out of 2004 was the "pretty boy" image. There's a reason JibJab portrayed him in speedos; and more people saw that than watched any debate that year.

And this was Edwards fault in 2004 because...why again?

He messed up by allowing this haircut thing to happen. He should have been going to Haircuttery for the $10 special.

Sure! And then when he looks like he cut his hair with a flobee, the smart folks like you and our associated tools in the media would mock him for that too! It's a can't miss! Pay a rich guy's rate to look good -- in a profession that looking good is nearly essential (Ask Nixon about his TV appearance in 1960)and you're a poseur. Skimp on the professional grooming and you're a schmuck.


That's the way the game works 'negative perceptions' and all. Our democracy is going down the tubes because idiots are running our discourse and because idiots like yourself can't see this as a problem that goes beyond John Edwards' hairline.

What Digby says at her site. And now please go away Mr. Ambinder, and never inflict any of your idiotic views on innocent Americans ever again. (Perhaps you could do something useful-like working with stray cats.)

D'oh! In reading this, the word "hack" just kept popping into my head, but Lisa beat me to it. Nonetheless, it does bear repeating that you are a HACK. Which is fitting, as the American press corps(e) has proven itself over the last several years to be the hackiest collection of hacks in the history of a hack-filled profession. Grow up and do your jobs instead of acting like a bunch of gossiping, mean-spirited dowagers!

That Franklin D. Roosevelt was a real phony too. No wonder why "fairly or unfairly, a healthy chunk of the national political press corps" didn't like him. He was born a millionaire who lived in a mansion in Hyde Park, New York, while pretending to care about poor people. Printing stories about him faking good health while he was really crippled in a wheelchair was fair game because he was such a fraud. He considered himself a champion of the poor, while at the same time he lived and dined in opulence while the poor had no roof over their heads and nothing to eat. Too bad the "national political press corps" didn't "bury him" the way they bury today's Democratic Presidential candidates, and he was elected President.
There.
Now can I have a job being one of the sages who call themselves political journalists?

"John Edwards's haircut was a valid story to cover"

Matt! Matt Y! Please come over here and kick some sense into this idiot!

He hasn't even heard of FDR, I bet! That hypocrite FDR, lived in a mansion at Hyde Park and still favored national social insurance and public works to help the unemployed.

Christ, what stupidity. "[Edwards'] credibility as a messenger comes into question when he spends money ostentatiously." He's not running for "messenger," dope. He's running to be a President who can, for example, propose legislation providing health care insurance even for those who can't afford it.

Do you think something like providing health insurance for everyone needs to be done? Or that Edwards's platform of trying to ameliorate poverty is a good one? Because if you do, you ought to be railing about the unfairness, not to say the backwardness, of this: "the press was trying to bury Edwards." And if you don't, then at least the American people will know for sure who their enemy is.

Are you freaking kidding me? Are you in high school? Reporters are supposed to report the news, not try and bury people they don't like.

Christ, I didn't realize Atlantic was this shoddy an organization. Go join the local junior high school. I hear that the girls there totally don't like pink makeup these days. May I suggest you wear red?

No more money for Atlantic.

I don't understand. If members of the press don't like John Edwards, that's a true thing and they can report it. The fact that he spends as much on getting his hair cut as all the other candidates do, doesn't become relevant, and isn't an illustration of "hypocrisy" just because members of the press don't like him. If members of the press don't like Edwards, why don't they just say so. It's not really important as far as the Edwards candidacy goes, but it does tell us something important. Marc can be the first. I've got a statement for him:

"I, Marc Ambinder, am jealous of John Edwards. I resent the fact that he's a lot older than I am but looks better than I do. I resent the fact that he's good-looking and presentable, while I am a fat slob. I resent the fact that he is successful and accomplished. I resent the fact that he can afford a larger house than I do. I resent the fact that he provides well for his family. Therefore, I dislike him."

Marc could simply use that as a preface to everything he writes about Edwards (if he needs to shorten it, he could leave out the part about being a fat slob, and just put a picture by his byline). He could then write truthful, relevant articles. We would still know he dislikes Edwards, because he would have told us, but he can focus on writing truthful, relevant articles, which is what the public is interested in.

My God. It's true what they say about the media elite. Here's proof certain.

If this guy is a bona fide "journalist," then I must be a prostitute who services moralizing republican congressmen in diapers.

Wow. Just wow. I cannot express my contempt for you and everyone in the press corps. This is utterly beyond belief.

I suppose I can give you a smidgen of kudos for your honesty.

But seriously. How. Dare. You.

Haircuts got to Edwards' credibility not even a hundredth as much as stories about haircuts go to yours. This is insane.

"Why does it throw praise at billonaires like Warren Buffet who are concerned about inequality but attempt to bury Edwards?"

because the economic elites of this country are terrified of the possibility that populist politics might succeed in shifting some of the tax burden from the middle class to their ermined shoulders.

so they work very hard to control the politic elites of this country by using tools like mr. ambinder (i mean this in a metaphoric sense, of course) to discredit any politician who attempts to focus the political discourse on questions of economic justice.

it is not very hard for them to do because were such politicians successful, they would change the nature of politics in this country, which would require mr. ambinder and his ilk to a) think independently and b) work hard.

the terror such a prospect creates in the mind of a main stream journalist occasions the haircut kerfluffle on the one hand, and the absolute failure of the media, on the other hand, to determine whether Edwards will choose to be as accountable for the bankurptcy bill vote as he has been for the iraq war vote.

if mr. ambinder wanted to portray mr. edwards as a hypocrite in an intellectually credible way, he a) would have had to know a little bit about edwards' senate votes or b) work. in the absence of either he must resort to fox news caricature.


If you guys are "don't like" Edwards, that gives me an excellent reason to vote for him; the last candidate you really didn't like was the winner of election 2000, Al Gore, who you just outright made up lies about.

As I keep reminding my readers: Versailles stank because the courtiers er, relieved themselves in the corridors. And the Beltway stinks for much the same reason.

Marc, have you ever visited Campobello Island? Specifically, FDR's so-called summer "cottage" with something like 30 lavish bedrooms?

I have visited FDR's summer residence at Campobello Island. It's in New Brunswick, just north of the Maine border. Allow me to tell you something, Marc, I visited Campobello and didn't for a nanosecond admire the man any less because his cottage was far bigger than my modest middle-class starter home could ever hope to be.

Just because FDR had a lavish cottage that dwarfs my residence is not a good reason to cynically grandstand and tut-tut FDR's "New Deal" as a fraud.

It is no less true of Edwards than it is for FDR, with the exception that FDR was born into elite wealth, whilst John Edwards still remembers what it was like to be dirt poor.

Be honest, and ask yourself how a $400 haircut is such a big deal in a presidential contest that will require something in the order of $100-million spending on TV ads for the final nominees? Then ask yourself if looking good for TV and public appearances is simply the vanity of one candidate to the exclusion of all others. (...chirp, chirp...)

Get off your high horse and start reporting real stories with real meaning that affect real peoples lives. All you are defending is a rotten sideshow canard. It's embarrassing, and it's beneath The Atlantic. If anybody's credibility is shot here, it is any "journalist" that defends this garbage.