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Obama And The Black Vote

24 Aug 2007 08:24 am

It's taken a few days to find the time to crunch these numbers, but it appears as if Barack Obama's political boasts of earlier this week won't amount to much change in the electorate, even if he achieves his goals.Obama said:
"I guarantee you African-American turnout, if I'm the nominee, goes up 30 percent around the country, minimum."
Obama noted that in Mississippi, blacks make up more than a third of the state's population, but make up a smaller share of the electorate.
"If we just got African-Americans in Mississippi to vote their percentage of the population, Mississippi is suddenly a Democratic state," Obama said. He said Georgia would also turn Democratic and South Carolina would be in play.
According to a back-of-the-envelope calculation by this non-math major, if black voters voted their percentage of the population, Democrats would still be about 170,000 votes short of the regular Republican general election margin, all other factors held constant.

Same thing in Georgia: the Dems would be 325K votes short and in South Carolina -- well, the Dem tally would decline because African Americans vote more than their percentage of the population would indicate.

So -- the first column shows the Bush margin over Kerry in '04. The second shows the total number of Democratic voters if black voters voted their percentage and all voted Democratic. The third figure is the difference of the first minus the second -- the GOP margin over the Democratic candidate under these conditions...all other things being equal.

         BUSH MARGIN     CHANGE IF PERCENT      GOP WITH CHANGE
Georgia    548K                 223K                           324K      
Mississ.   226K                   53K                           173K
S.C:    276K                  -16.9K                           293K
Sources for this were the percentage of African Americans per state from the U.S. Census and the '04 exit polls' estimates for the percentage of African American votes in the election. . Now -- increasing African American turnout in other states may well yield benefits. But remember that Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts have, in past cycles, almost entirely been focused on squeezing every possible African American vote out of a state.

Comments (14)

Obama is probably wrong (indulging in wishful thinking) about Mississippi, South Carolina, and Georgia (I live in Atlanta, a bit of a blue island in a red state). But he's right about the big picture, because of Florida. That is where any significant increase in black voter turnout would be likely to deliver the state to the Democratic nominee.

I haven't decided who to back in the Democratic primary, so this isn't intended as an Obama endorsement; but he makes a fair point, because of FLORIDA.

What numbers are you looking at? I have been curious about Obama's assertion and the media response. TPM has also been dissecting this. I am no statistician but looking at the census data suggests a couple of interesting facts. First people seem to be moving South and West. Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and North Carolina have grown by 7 to 15 % since 2000. The question is who is moving and why. According to the Census Bureau, "New York had the largest black population in 2006 (3.5 million), followed by Florida (3 million) and Texas (2.9 million). Texas had the largest numerical increase between 2005 and 2006 (135,000), with Georgia (101,000) and Florida (86,000) next." That is just for 2005-2006. "In the District of Columbia, the black population comprised the highest percentage (57 percent); Mississippi (37 percent) and Louisiana (32 percent) were next." Of course the black population is getting younger on average (30.6 yr), so not all these are voters, but what is clear is that the South is changing, which I take to be Obama's larger point. With initiatives to give electors to the winners of the national popular vote (e.g. Maryland and now up for debate in CA), this could indeed be a significant development. Obama's value to the Democratic party (and I would argue to the principle of participatory democracy generally) will depend on whether he can mobilize black voters to the polls. Hence the Republican push to woo the black and hispanic vote. By no means should black support for Obama be a foregone conclusion, my only point is that Republicans will ignore black and hispanic voters at their peril.

So, Obama can guarantee African-American turnout will go up 30% Well, there's hubris for you. On the face of it this statement clearly points out that he is running first and foremost as an African-American, boasting that he can bring out a big increase like that. And that's really NOT good.

I'm surprised that no one else is pointing this out.

Why is it, Pragmatic Liberal, that there is something wrong IF Obama is running as an African-American? But let's get to the bigger question? Why is it that every non-white person in this country has to be identified by what is perceived to be their ansestor’s country?

Why don't we have nice little check boxes for Irish-Americans, or Scottish-Americans, or even European-Americans? This country has made it their business to classify non-whites, to track and monitor the "others". So it seem ludicrous to NOT run as an African-American since that is the little box that all non-whites are forced to check.

I'm surprised no one else has pointed that out!

Let's not pretend that race is not an issue. Then, let's get over it and maybe even ask each other Dr. Phill's question: "How's that been working for you?"

Obama is working for everyone. He is not running as an African American candidate. He is running as a candidate of change. The fact is yes, African Americans will be voting for him. Yes, there will be an increase of African Americans going to the polls.

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Obama will take missippi no doubt
And yes because of the high black population every one knows that no point in wwatching the primary tonite
Missippi wont elect him for his wisdom or policies they will elect the black guy how sad is that
Ignorance is what makes someone vote for another because of race or gender
Get on to the penn
as Miss has already been decided
I would bet the audience watching this primary will be far less than before no need to watch a shoe in

The People Who Decry Obama is winning because he is smarter and more qualified than Clinton to become the President Of The United States is lieing through their teeth. Make half and half of black population supporting equally Clinton and Obama then the result will be victory for Clinton. Stop enough lies in this very important election for the future of our children. Remember all politicians supporting Obama were losers themselves in their own attempts in Presidential election. Remember Kennedy's father was a bootlegger violatinf law and ammassing billions at the expense of millions of people losing fortunes and jobs in 1929 stock market crush. Huh, some endorsements.

The People Who Decry Obama is winning because he is smarter and more qualified than Clinton to become the President Of The United States is lieing through their teeth. Make half and half of black population supporting equally Clinton and Obama then the result will be victory for Clinton. Stop enough lies in this very important election for the future of our children. Remember all politicians supporting Obama were losers themselves in their own attempts in Presidential election. Remember Kennedy's father was a bootlegger violatinf law and ammassing billions at the expense of millions of people losing fortunes and jobs in 1929 stock market crush. Huh, some endorsements.

Before Obama became a candidate, the black voting block loved the Clintons. If Obama wasn't on the ticket, the 90% of blacks voting for him would all be voting for Hillary. But, as soon as a black candidate was actually in sight of the nomination, it was time for blacks to throw the Clintons under the bus, and play the race card. These latter comments by black leaders putting the blame on Bill Clinton, are extremely disengenuous, and are merely attempts at damage control, as well as attempts at solidarity for the black candidate, at the expense of the Clintons.