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Obama's "Right War:" A Political Document, Too

01 Aug 2007 10:54 am

In spite of everything, Dems know they need to (a) act tough (b) talk tough) and (b) be tough on terror -- AT&B is the watchword. The press still writes about counterterrorism as if it is a trademark Republican wedge issue and seems collectively surprised when Democrats offer aggressive proposals that go against the grain. Voters themselves give Democrats more breathing room, but Dem consultants remain very worried about how the Republicans have mastered the symbolism and language of terror politics.

Judging by the early returns -- "Obama As Jack Bauer?" (NBC) -- "Bold" (ABC) -- the press is receiving Obama's speech exactly as the campaign intended. Aides point reporters to the Pakistan lines. Why? They're the toughest, most provocative parts. They are harder than one might expect from Obama; they certainly do not reinforce the stereotype that he's all platitudes and indecivisve. They stand out.

Judging by the excerpts, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani would feel comfortable delivering about half the speech. John McCain would accept most of it. Remember, even when Obama delivered his anti-Iraq war speech in 2003, he was careful to say that he did not oppose all wars, "just stupid ones." (That a Democrat would have to declare he wasn't opposed to warfare entirely was a sign of how 9/11 and Iraq so distorted the politics of national security).

Let's give Obama the benefit of the doubt. If this speech comports with his principles, Obama endorses pre-emptive military action if U.S. interests are severely and legitimately threatened -- a concept that will not endear him to certain factions of his party but one that is certainly, intuitively embraced by the voters Obama wants to reach.

Obama likes either-or propositions, and his counterrorism effectively merges a law enforcement paradigm with a miliary paradigm. He elevates diplomacy and partnerships but makes it clear that the U.S. is the ultimate arbiter of its own interests.

Obama's problem is that he has no discernable track record or direct experience with national security conflicts. Watch to see how this high-octane speech is received by other Democrats, and whether any of them has the guts to say, yeah, nice words, but why would you, as president, be better at this than someone who knows how government works?

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Comments (21)

This country will only be secure when both political parties wrestle themselves from their respective fringe elements--Republican Party from Neo-Cons nuts and the Democratic Party from anti-war nuts. Invading Iraq and creating an Al Qaeda faction that didn't exist prior AND ignoring the growing threat of Al Qaeda is Pakistan will have the same result.

why would you, as president, be better at this than someone who knows how government works?

Because he's not an Establishment hack, like Hillary. He's fresh, new. Represents fundamental change.

John McCain would accept most of it. Except this:

"But I said I could not support "a dumb war, a rash war" in Iraq. I worried about a " U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences" in the heart of the Muslim world. I pleaded that we "finish the fight with bin Ladin and al Qaeda."

The political winds were blowing in a different direction. The President was determined to go to war. There was just one obstacle: the U.S. Congress. Nine days after I spoke, that obstacle was removed. Congress rubber-stamped the rush to war, giving the President the broad and open-ended authority he uses to this day. With that vote, Congress became co-author of a catastrophic war. And we went off to fight on the wrong battlefield, with no appreciation of how many enemies we would create, and no plan for how to get out.

Because of a war in Iraq that should never have been authorized and should never have been waged, we are now less safe than we were before 9/11."

You say: "(That a Democrat would have to declare he wasn't opposed to warfare entirely was a sign of how 9/11 and Iraq so distorted the politics of national security)"

I think it has more to do with Obama addressing his audiences preconceived notion. Obama has a habit of challenging audiences, on merit pay to the teachers union, on mpg in Detroit, on fatherhood in broken communities. In this case his audience in 2002 was as ANSWER rally, many of whom were knee-jerk anti-war. Obama challenged that instinctively and layed out a case against the that in hindsight looks absolutely prescient.

You say: "Obama endorses pre-emptive military action if U.S. interests are severely and legitimately threatened. . ."

Maybe we are thinking of different parts of his speech, but going after aQ is not "pre-emption".

Obama's rhetoric is right on. He is highlighting the point that Iraq was a diversion. And if there is any "war", it should be the right war. A war focused against those that attacked us. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with those that attacked us.

“By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences,” Obama said in an address at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.

You say Obama believes in pre-emptive action. NO!... he believes in bringing justice to those who attacked us on 9/11. How is attacking the very same Al-Queda sanctuary in Pakistan that was responsible for 9/11 considered a "pre-emptive attack"? It's called national defense.

This shows how twisted the foreign policy discussion in this country has become when someone like you says something so overtly wrong.

I would appricate some time with Mr Obama. To give so imput to get out of Iraq.

"Actionable intelligence" is the key. I don't think any of the Dem candidates would do any different, no matter what they say out loud. I personally wouldn't want a president who isn't prepared to act in defense of the nation in a situation of imminent threat. Had we not made the entirely wrong turn into Iraq, thereby supercharging Al Qaeda there and allowing it to strengthen its position in Afghanistan and elsewhere, we would be well on our way to an acceptable level of national security. I especially want to thank those of our candidates who voted for the IWR. Really good thinking that was.

Marc,

I implore you to write a diary on 'mydd' in response to Jerome Armstrong who has completely distorted Senator Obama's speech. Reading the comments, I was expecting to hear, in the actual speech, Obama expressly or even imply that he would invade Pakistani or send in troops, but he said neither, but this is being spread on Mydd. When the hell did strategical strikes at high valued targets become a unilateral invasion and troop deployment?

agreed that Obama has no trackrecord on national security but, then, does Hillary?
Oh yeah, one thing. She has the Iraq war vote.

Yeah, Hillary is trying to piggyback on Bill's experience, again.

Bombing Pakistan would weaken the Pakistani govt and bolster militants. That is what Obama doesnt understand, because he lacks experience, knowledge about foreign affairs and wants to appear "tough".

Asmir, you know that surgical strikes into known Al Queda hangouts would weaken the Pakistani government how?

Leaving AQ *headquarters* intact in the Pakistani mountains strengthens the Pakistani government how?

I agree with Anna: “Actionable intelligence is the key”
I agree with Dawn: “Marc, I implore you to write a diary on 'mydd' in response to Jerome Armstrong...”
Unlike most people, I read the speech from start to finish and for lack of a better word, it is impressive. Although the military part of the plan seems to be the one that sells papers, he actually offered a combination of diplomatic, social, financial, educational and military solution to fighting terrorism.

Republican candidates have been confounded. For the first time a democrat has beaten them in what they called their turf. Not only that, he offered a comprehensive plan second to none. Frankly, McCain and his colleagues can’t understand how a ‘rookie’ can be this good.

Coincidentally, Biden and Hillary said they had the same idea. LOL!

Well, Obama happens to be the one courageous enough to make his plan public. Can anyone see an Obama-Bloomberg ticket?

G Davis,

Obama is not speaking of "surgical strikes", which by the way have already been happening, but of "invading" a sovereign nation and an ally. I fail to understand how taking an overt military action and destabilising a nuclear armed nation, in one of the most unstable regions in the world, would have any positive results, except send the whole region further to the brink of anarchy. A state-sponsored attack on a nuclear armed nation would be unprecedented, and I shudder to think of the consequences.

Obama's idiotic posturing is nothing but an attempt to gain favour with the voters, and doesn't do anything to keep his ignorance of foreign policy matters under wraps.

Sara...read the speech...he uses the word invasion three times in his text...all in reference to GWB misguided frolic into Iraq.

He does not use the word invade, or invading at any time in this speech.

Read the speech...it's hawkish but done so in an intelligent, thoughtful and reasoned manner.

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