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Young Conservatives Debate, And Fret, About The Future

16 Aug 2007 04:26 pm

Is conservatism in a death spiral? Three of the smartest young conservatives I know, Patrick Hynes, Patrick Ruffini and Soren Dayton, have different diagnosis and different cures.

Some thoughts:

The generational challenge: the prospect that the next age cohort of voters will be more culturally conservatives than the current one is very bleak; there is too much evidence to suggest that young voters are operationally libertarian. They are certainly capable of translating moral judgments into policy -- they're more skeptical about unfettered abortion rights -- but they aren't nearly as invested in these battles as their parents are and were.

Social conservativsm and cultural conservatism overlap, but they're not the same. Social conservatism deals with the organization of society and incorporates social institutions like the social safety net, the education system, immigration the media -- as Soren Dayton notes, conservatives can win these arguments -- there is no inherent conflict with modernism. Cultural conservatism -- or, more properly, moral conservatism, addresses issues of conscience, personal morality, sexuality, gender. In the long-term, in the long-term, cultural conservatism conflicts very much with the worldview of the first truly modern generation. (BTW: Rudy Giuliani is a social conservative but not a cultural conservative. Discuss.)

The political paradox: stem cells and gay rights may well become majoritarian issues, but someone has to speak for cultural and moral conservatives. If the Republican Party won't or can't, who will?

The challenge of government -- Not intending to sound like David Sirota here, but the conservative elite loves to hate government and spend their time debating ingenious ways to constrain its growth; the major party fundraisers spend their time lobbying Congress to curtail regulation; Americans say they hate government; they want to cut government in theory; they want government off our backs; they don't vote for small government and they complain when politicians dare to touch their entitlements. They expect their government to be competent. Mike Huckabee seems to understand that there's a paradox at the heart of the movement. My colleagues Reihan Salam and Ross Douthat are currently finishing a book on Sam's Club Republicanism and the journey of the Republican Party away from the locus of ordinary people and their material concerns.

The elites hate it, but national security conservatism is alive and well and is attractive to independents. The administration has been so successful in yoking the Iraq war to the war against terrorism, though, that conservatives need to find a way to disentangle the two.

Cassandritus aside, there's no enduring evidence to suggest that the Democrats have improved their brand relative to its status after the 2004 election, when, as you'll recall, Democrats completely lost their grip on reality and pessimistically consigned themselves to the dustbin of history. Short memories.

Comments (13)

You are confusing old Rudy Giuliani, who was one but not the other, with new Rudy Giuliani, who is now both.

"there's no enduring evidence to suggest that the Democrats have improved their brand relative to its status after the 2004 election"

You should at least note a familiarity with polling suggesting the opposite if you are going to throw that out.

From the "About Me" blurb on Soren Dayton's blog:

"Prior to my involvement in politics, I have started a software company, so I have a bit of a techy perspective on politics that I look forward with sharing with my readers."

Yeah, the intellect just shines right through.

I notice all three of these boffo young Republicans aren't enlisted in the Great War In Iraq. Imagine that.

Soren Dayton is hardly a genius. He's a good networker but that's about it.

Doesn't sound like Romney's their savior...

http://political-buzz.com/

Pew Research did a survey that found that only 46% of independents believed the best way to ensure peace was through military strength, the lowest in 20 years. Also, Bush only broke even with independents in 2004, raising questions about how attractive it is to independents.

As for the Democrats brand, Stanley Greenberg's survey work found that more people are likely to believe the Democrats share their values, stand for prosperity, and respond affirmatively to their message.

"The administration has been so successful in yoking the Iraq war to the war against terrorism, though, that conservatives need to find a way to disentangle the two."

What polling are you looking at? It's been sucessful in making this connection to Republicans, but that's it.

"The administration has been so successful in yoking the Iraq war to the war against terrorism, though, that conservatives need to find a way to disentangle the two."

What polling are you looking at? It's been sucessful in making this connection to Republicans, but that's it.

This is why Rudy Giuliani is the perfect candidate at the perfect time.

His "fiscally conservative/socially tolerant" libertarian light views mesh wonderfully with the views of younger voters. And this is firmly backed up by recent polling data, which suggests that Giuliani does far better than any other GOP candidate among those under 34.

Some say Ron Paul is libertarian. But he loses out on protecting us from the very unlibertarian rise of Radical Islam. This is Rudy's strong point, and quite appealing to younger voters.

This libertarian Republican will be voting for Rudy.

Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
1997-2003

Eric, I'm skeptical. Polling data also strongly suggests that democrats do better than republicans with voters under 34. So how much does Rudy's position with them, relative to the other GOP candidates, really matter? If he does well against the dem candidates with that age group, your hypothesis becomes much more plausible.

Lynn, in fact I did see a major national poll a couple weeks ago, that suggested precisely that; that Rudy was doing better among the under 34 set than any other GOP Presidential contender. And in fact, was way out ahead of them.

Sorry, I can't recall which poll that was.

Marc: Patrick Ruffini's blog was the first one I read regularly and it was what pulled me into the blogosphere five years ago. I will always appreciate him for that.

But Ruffini is not a "smart young conservative". Ruffini is a smart young Republican. Conservatism is in decline now in large part because the most active young minds want to be little partisan Lee Atwaters rather than little principled William F. Buckleys. As much as I like Ruffini's writing, he is part of that trend, and the post you link to is yet another piece of evidence.

If you want smart young conservatism, I recommend The American Scene in its new post-Douthat incarnation.

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