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Giuliani Claims An Evolution On Gun Rights

21 Sep 2007 11:46 am

Glossing over the less appealing line items on his gun control resume, ex-NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani presented himself as sympathetic to the aims of the National Rifle Association and pledged, as president, to protect gun rights.

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said.

He indicated that he would oppose new efforts to tighten national gun laws.

"I believe that law endforcement should focus on enforcing the laws that exist on the books as opposed to passing new extensions of laws," he said. "A person's home is their castle. They have the right to protect themselves in their own home."

Giulaini explained the lawsuit he initiated in 2000 against gun manufacturers by saying that he was "excessive in everyway that I could think of in order to reduce crime" but said that "intervening events" like September 11th had caused his views to evolve. "I think that lawsuit has gone in the direction that I don't agree with."

He cited a DC court ruling overturning the city's gun ban as instrumental to changing and "strengthening" his views on gun control. That ruling, Parker vs. the Distict of Columbia, was handed down just as Giuliani was beginning his presidential bid.

Giuliani said that MoveOn.org's ad criticizing Gen. Petreaus was out of bounds and hinted that the group should face some sort of sanction.

"They passed a line that we should not allow an American political organization to pass," he said. "We are at war right now, whether some people want to recognize it or not."

A humanizing moment: Giuliani's wife, Judith, called his cell phone, and the two proceeded to have a lovey-dovey chat. "Good bye, sweetheart, I love you," he said.

Comments (693)

Dear Mr. Mayor,
Thank you for coming to your senses. Guns in the hands of criminals causes crime, not guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. Any and all gun laws are aimed at the law-abiding citizen because no criminal (by their very nature) follows any law but their own.

You need to now speak up about the values of gun ownership and how every state, EVERY STATE, that has enacted open legal gun ownership has it's crime reduced, substantially!

Thank you Mr. Mayor.

"I believe that law en_forcement should focus on enforcing the laws that exist on the books as opposed to passing new extensions of laws,"

Enforcing laws, huh? Then I'm sure this means he'll toughen his shamefully lax stance on illegal immigration and start enforcing some laws.

RIGHT?

What a hypocrite! This coming from the former mayor of a city where gun ownership is illegal.

Rudy, When you told the Saudi's to stick it after 9-11, you became THE MAN!

I sure hope Giuliani doesn't get elected, he'll be Bush 2.0 and is likely to further deteriorate our country.

Another politician getting religion regarding personal freedoms. He lies...vote for Thompson or the leftists who at least lie about their positions on everything else but guns.

I agree but it is somewhat of a flip flop. I hope he means it because if the NRA supports him he has a chance to win. He better own up to what he says.

I sure hope Giuliani doesn't get elected, he'll be Bush 2.0 and is likely to further deteriorate our country.

Too little too late. We don't trust you Mayor. You seem to view the US Constitution as an obstacle to overcome instead of a guide.

Your statement "They have the right to protect themselves in their own home." is utter BS. I have the right to protect myself ANYWHERE I roam. My rights do not end at my doorstep.

"A person's home is their castle. They have the right to protect themselves in their own home." . . . unless, of course, you live in New York

Rudy -

Sorry, we don't believe you. You are another Bush in sheeps clothing.

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety"

It is based on the 2nd amendment, sir. Get a clue as to what "shall not be infringed means". The current gun laws that are on the books are unconstitutional. The courts screwed up!

Wow! Republican candidates really are betting The Base is immeasurably stupid with real short memories. This pandering flock of bastards really debase our politics in the best tradition of George Bush. More of the same.....

Our right to bear arms is NOT based upon a reasonable degree of safety, but on the Second Ammendment to the Constitution of the United States, Mr Mayor.

I like the doublespeak going on there.

Wow Giuliani...what a shill you have become.

In other words Rudy, you're flip-flopping to avoid the ire of the NRA. I'm guessing your abortion stance will be the next to "evolve".

Here's a novel thought, try standing up for your principles instead of pandering to the gun lobby.

As I read these remarks a person in the United States of America is guilty until they can prove their innocence. Then they may exercise their right to bear arms.

I smell an election around the corner! Hummmmm...Don't fall for it folks!

Fred Thompson in 2008!

How does one distinguish between sincere "evolution" of thinking and politically expedient flip-flopping?

Another politician trying to look more Centrist in a bid for the presidency. Next he will start catering to the Religious Right by carrying a big ol stage Bible. Anybody have enough yet?

I believe the man has said he changed his mind about gun control post 911. I think to compare him with Bush and say that is a negative thing is childish. President Bush has kept you safe from tyranny by blood thirsty fanatics since 911. Grow up!

Now thats special. Rudy has become a pro gunner.
I shall file that with " I never had sex with that women Monica Lewinsky". Rudy needs to take some more acting lessons from Slick Willy. The Watkins household supports Ron Paul!

In regards to the NYT ad about Gen. Petreaus. While in the opinion of many it was in poor taste, the 1st amendment was designed to protect controversial speech, not just un-controversial speech.

Interestingly, the accusation of being "unpatriotic" and "cowardly" up until recently had been reserved only for those who dissented against the War, the Patriot Act, etc. Most of these accusations came from the Neocon diehards. Maybe they should have listened.

Nothing scares me more than government officials calling for sanctions on the expression of opinion. I am sure that the Nazis also mentioned a line that can be crossed and a line that can't. Suppresion of views counter to the majority is a slippery slope that must be avoided at all costs.

Ron Paul is NO LEADER!

Damn right, you dolt! You have nothing at all to say about our right to own firearms. No prsident has that right!

Good idea Rudy,

I'm ex-military, owner of both long guns and handguns and I have and use a concealed carry license, yes you could say I'm pro-gun.

But I'm also pro-gun control. The procedure for obtaining the concealed carry license is not much short of a joke. After the background check comes back all you have is a "practical" round of shoot to qualify and a written test for which you've been given the answers.

I don't want my ability to carry removed, but I don't want anyone with a minimum of a day and a half "training" out there with a weapon, and from some of the comments in the classroom, wanting to shoot to kill.

Yes we should have the right to keep and bear arms, but lets get some perspective on how to qualify for this incredibly responsible right. Once you've passed a more rigorous test, let those who've passed alone to protect themselves and those around them.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm sick of politicians (both Left and Right) whose views "evolve" shortly before they're due to address an audience of higher level primates.

As for our "Democracy," it has apparently devolved to the point that no person with real integrity can be a candidate. Being a member of our current government requires that you mutate into a twisted, bent, deformed shell of your former self. The system is designed to eradicate integrity. Integrity and politics have become mutually exclusive. Considering Congress' approval rating (less than 1/3 that of Bush), most of the American people agree.

I will keep my firearms not because a politician says that I can, but because it is my inalienable right. It is also the right of the people to abolish the government using said firearms when the politicians have become sufficiently estranged from any semblance of integrity, serving their own interests rather than those of the people.

It is pretty simple, really. If you can't trust me with my firearms, then I can't trust you with my vote. And if you didn't trust me with my firearms yesterday, but suddenly do today, what assurance can I have that you won't change your mind again tomorrow?

The government is supposed to be for the people, of the people, and by the people. The people are agitated.

John,
Moveon.org went way beyond! To insult a man who has been putting his life on the line for YOUR freedom.....to be wounded for YOU.....is way over the top. He is a honorable man and went before congress with facts, and the democrats running for president and there backers moveon.org.........can't handle the truth. They can print whatever they wish but that does not make it RIGHT or Proper! It was and is a disgrace! They are too ignorant to apologize and you are as well.

I don't believe you Rudy, sorry.

I put my trust in Ron Paul - a real defender of the 2nd amendment.

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety,"

is not true

Amendment II reads in part
".....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

Period

Safety is a reasonable assumption but not a basic tenet of the Amendment

I'm thrilled Rudy is seeing the importance of legal gun ownership in this country!

He's the only candidate that can come close to stopping the corrupt Clintons.

Rudy will get attacked by all sides because the media KNOWS he's the one and only Republican that can beat Hilary. If you don't believe me just watch the liberal media, see if I'm right.

Remember when guns are outlawed, only politicians and criminals will have guns.

I love how he calls this Moveon.org and American Political Organization as if it is a Political Party. Everything that made this guy a good or some say great Mayor he has abandoned to make the 26% (that still support bush) happy. Keep selling out your integrity, Rudy

You know how you can tell a Democrat is posting? They keep calling Rudy "Bush 2.0" or "More of Bush". What a crock. You guys wouldn't vote for any Republican regardless of who it is.

The Right to Arm Bears is a God given one. The Right to Bear Arms is a Constitutional one.

When I can get a CCW permit in NYC or Chicago Rudy let me know. Apparently we arent granted a reasonable sense of security in those locations. So the only ones packing heat are criminals and they and I both know that.

Nope.

I'm not buying it.

I've been a student of politicians and gun rights for too long to be fooled.

As a liberty oriented Republican, my assessment is that Rudy is exactly the sort of dark, creepy authoritarian that we need a lot less of.

I find it interesting that he thinks Moveon.org should be punished for simply using their right to free speech.

He forgot to add, "...except when – and where – I’m in charge."

Gun ownership is a threat to national security. We should take them all away under the patriot act and anyone who does not follow should be sent to Guantanamo w/o representation. You can't carry water on an airplane, but you can carry a gun. That's sensible. Good times.

Based on this story it sounds like Rudy said exactly nothing. So he thinks my home is my castle. Thanks for the update, Rudy. So 911 made him rethink gun control? How so? Limit citizen gun rights based on non-citizen and terrorist acts?

Never trust a person wants to make it illegal or difficult for you to defend yourself properly.

Moveon.org is a shamefully anti-American group, it's true. Anyone with any grey matter and common sense can see that. So, how long will Rudy milk the ooportunity to bad mouth them or Ron Paul?

Given a choice of those 2 I would take Paul. (I don't care that he doesn't have the money to win
Ron Paul is a better man that has our citizens as his #1 priority. Check out his platform before you slam him.)

Hey Rudy, why not talk about doing the right things - reducing government, lowering taxes, securing borders, making illegal immigration illegal again, stopping the SPP / North American Union, create more incentives to create American business and reduce outsourcing, stop the weakening of the dollar, reduce the terrorist threat, and find a solution to the real or perceived energy pinch concerning oil.

The democrats are shameful socialists and the GOP is liberal...are there any real conservatives out there that won't get crucified?

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is a definition of insanity. I am voting for a person of integrity after spending 20 years in the vipers nest of Washington Dr. Paul still holds the same beliefs.

The Constitution even after the activist Presidency and Courts have trampled on our rights
Dr. Paul still only votes Constitutionally. Cheers,

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said.

What a maroon! The right to bear arms is a natural right that pre-dates the Declaration of Independence, let ALONE the Constitution, whether he recognizes it or not, and if he were anything other than what he is (globalist/socialist), he'd admit that the Constitution places a STRICT limitation on the government to interfere with that right.

This candidate is dangerous to the Bill of Rights, so vote for him at your own peril. Out of his mouth, not mine.

The truly sad thing is, millions of "conservatives" see him as "reasonable".

I don't know yet who I'll vote for, but it won't be Hillary, Barack, or Edwards. I am looking for
whoever will enforce and strengthen our immigration laws.

The 2nd Amendment was not written for so-called "self defense". It was written to keep tyrannical government and rogue leaders at bay by means of force.

His words clearly show that he does not agree.

I haven't seen any kittys change their stripes. Don't believe it.

Come on Rudy! I'm tired of hearing views about issues that are ranked 50th on the priority list. The first candidate that can reform/address immigration and our depleting Social Security problems I'll listen. These are quality of life issues for myself and for my children. Gun rights, which i strongly agree with is so far from what the American public should be focusing on during these times.

"Giulaini explained the lawsuit he initiated in 2000 against gun manufacturers by saying that he was "excessive in everyway that I could think of in order to reduce crime" but said that "intervening events" like September 11th had caused his views to evolve."

Yes, if only the workers at the World Trade Center had guns...

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said."

WRONG!

The right to bear arms is based on the PRE-EXISTING right to self defense which is RECOGNIZED (not granted) by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

We don't base our rights on the constitution. Our rights existed before the constitution and will continue to exist even if the constitution or its interpretation is changed.

Heeeellloooooo! Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell!

Why is it that Ron Paul supporters are such advocates for individual rights and no government interference, yet knowing he hasn't got a prayer in getting elected would only help Hillary?

Bullshit. He just wants to be elected. The PTB that anointed him told him to BS the NRA so the people being instructed by the same handlers get clearance to endorse him.

Did he do anything for the defense rights of New Yorkers when he was mayor? No.

Of course now the Repub koolaid drinkers and NRA will become sycophants for the anointed one.

Ron Paul is a better choice for gun rights.

RUDY WILL SAY ANYTHING to get elected.
"intervening events" like September 11th had caused his views to evolve. Is he serious? He is trying to peg everything to 9/11. Don't be fooled my fellow republicans. He is a threat to conservative values and should not be taken seriously. This guy faker than a North Korean Hundred Dollar bill.

Aren't we sick of leaders who are too afraid of failure to say what they truly believe? I mean, I hate bush just as much as the next guy, but at least he gives me the chance to hate him without trying to agree with me just enough so that I don't.

He tried to alienate my unalienable rights. Now that he is in a popularity contest he tries to change his spots. Hilroy has done the same thing.

You don't win on what you say in a commercial, you win based on your record.

like every other anti-gunner out there, your views on the second amendment would be completely unacceptable when applied to the first. unfortunately, as was so perfectly demonstrated by "Unclear", people are perfectly willing to accept candidates who promise more then they punish.

here is my idea: let's find a candidate who can do their job *without* trampling all over the rights of we the people. let's stop voting for people who want to wire-tap and gun-grab as part of their plan to "keep people safe"...

If I could re-write the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, this is precisely what I would love to see:

"We, the people of the United States, in order that we shall have the right to preserve a State free for all races, shall achieve this end by the use of less-lethal weaponry only for our continued survival as human beings. This free State entails our personal self-defense as well as our right to our food consumption. In keeping with current government law, if we so choose to possess a less-lethal weapon (be it either upon our persons or within our private homes), we are obligated to store these aforementioned weapons plus any ammo relating to its use in a manner which will serve to protect the welfare of a minor child.

Doktor Jeep,

But Ron Paul is unelectable!! I'm not trying to be mean, it's just a proven fact.

At some point I would hope you Paul supporters will come out from behind your computers (because I've noticed that the only thing Paul has going for him, is that his supporters are huge chatroom or blog posters then any other candidate's supporters) and support the nominee against Hillary.

Sorry Rudy,
I just don’t believe you! Flip-Flops on this issue just won’t cut it when it comes to our second amendment rights! The other conservative issues (abortion & gay marriage) that you are on the left side of I could live with, but there is NO WAY anyone is taking away my right to keep and bear arms. The criminals would like it if guns are banned as they don’t care about the laws! Let’s enforce all the laws including all of these ‘illegal aliens’ in this county!

there are so many animals in new york city its really tough to govern there..rudy did a great job...

Was that his current wife or future wife?

A gun is is a gun is a gun. Use it wrong and you should get punished. Use it the way it was designed and there is no problem. The gun was designed for defence to stop someone from a distance, therefore protecting ones self from an attacker.

How come gun advocates/NRA regularly quote the second amendment reading 'the right to bear arms' but somehow always leave off the part about 'a well regulated militia'. It's a curious, selective reading of the second amendment. Rudy probably banned guns in NYC so his ex-wives couldn't get ahold of them.

BOW DOWN TO YOUR FUTURE PRESIDENT-FOR-LIFE HILLARY! YOU WILL BE HAPPY DOING WHAT SHE KNOWS IS BEST FOR YOU!! ALL HAIL HER! YOU WILL BE HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS EVEN AFTER TAXES!

I like Rudy, but have to stick with Fred at this point.

I have no reason to believe Rudy is lying about his position on gun-control, however convenient it seems now. But I want a president who sees my rights as inaileinable, rather than subject to current events and circumstances.

The revolution will be wi-fi'd. Keep the guns in the closet...for now.

Do not believe this fascistic hyena !!!
This M...F... wants to rule nation of slaves !!!

responsibility must come with ownership, I have been around guns from a very early age and was required to attend a month long training course in guns to aquire my first hunting licence at the age of 12. After you turn 18 any yahoo can go out and buy a gun, WTF! how dangerose is it to have a bunch of armed ignoramouses running around shooting semi autos half drunk because its "fun".
Any American citizen who feels the need to own a gun should go through manadatory safety training lasting at least a month and then be rigerously tested to prove that they have learned the material, then they can be a "responsible" gun owner

I think you are all a bunch of freaks.

I'm reading these liberal minded idiots and they're comments about gun control (not many on the subject itself) ....all they can focus on is George Bush ! THANK GOD FOR GB .....you mindless robots of the 'left' have little or no clue about what this country and the world are facing, because you are protected by people who lay their lifes on the line everyday for you. YOU DISGUST ME TO NO END!! IF YOU HATE AMERICA SO MUCH ...JUST LEAVE !!!

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety,"


Isn't he just saying let's be reasonable when trying to protect ourselves? Does one really need an uzi to do that?

www.uzi.com... great! “coming soon”.. SHOP ONLINE!! yee haww!!

NRA is a joke imo.

I don't believe this for one second. What a crock!
This guy is just as dangerous and just as dishonest as any other politician.

G_d gave me the right to protect myself and my family and the constitution guarantees me that right. At home, on the road, in the field. It doesn't matter.

What a lousy selection of candidates this election! Grrrr...

Don't believe a word of it. Giuliani, like the all the rest in this Hollywood show called the 2008 Presidential Election, are the most duplicitous snake oil salesmen on the planet. Whatever is said has been carefully calculated to elicit an ideological response. There is no real meaning in Giuliani's words. The truth is that your guns, regardless of who is President, will be taken from you when the government decides to do so. Yes, they can - and have - done this. New Orleans Police Superintendent P. Edwin Compass III announced in 2005, after hurricane Katrina, that all privately owned firearms would be seized: "No one will be able to be armed. Guns will be taken". Any event that would make possession of a firearm beneficial for self defense - a social collapse, for example - will doubtlessly be deemed a state of emergency. The 2nd Amendment is obsolete: the government can create any of a number of contingencies that grants them the power to confiscate our guns.

Nothing Rudy the RINO can say at this point is going to change anything. He is, and always will be antigun. Sued the gun companies and was adamantly antigun as mayor of NYC.

No way in hell will any antigun politician be getting my support.

Sorry Rudy, you are too liberal for those of us in the in the center of America. Stay in New York where you belong.

How does Ron Paul have no chance against Hillary?

Ron Paul is in fact, the only republican to have a chance against her. Remember, 70% of the nation is against the war. How in god's name could a pro war republican actually win an election in which the war is clearly the number one issue???

And if you are serious about gun rights, Paul is by far your most secure vote.

Rudy is just another lying, liberal hypocrit.
Would never vote for him.

Rudy trying to sound more like Ron Paul, the only true conservative in the race.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I do believe your views on protecting the 2nd Amendment are sincere. Looking at the rest of the field, both parties, you are the only one having demonstrated competence. I can only hope that fellow Republicans understand the dire consequences of allowing the far Left to capture the White House.
Go Rudy!!!!

Evolution? Since when do the rightwingers believe in evolution? And I find it interesting that the righties suddenly developed a case of the vapors about an interest group attacking the honor of General Petraus, when our idiot president never would have gotten reelected without the Swiftboaters' lies about Kerry's record. But it's okay if you're a Republican, right?

Why are assault weapons sold to anyone except police and military? How many private citizens use these as opposed to criminals? I think owning a gun is sensible if one knows how to use it safely, but assault weapons make no sense to me.

A gun is a gun. My right to have Military grade weaponry is as strong as my Great Grandfather's right to a musket. We both need to protect our families from perceived threat by any means necessary. Sometimes those methods may be shocking to Liberals, but no bears or Mexicans will get near MY children.

My right to bear arms is not based on SAFETY, but on the US Constitution. Read it some time.

I don't believe you!

Looking for a Republican to vote for - less government, less tax, less spending, strong defense, Pro-Life, understqanding of the Constitution, stay out of my life and leave my guns alone.

Rudi does not match up

Why has Rudy all of a sudden decided that Gun's and Gun Laws are ok? Being the Mayor in NY, where you may not own a gun is interesting. And if I remember right he also said about 4 yrs ago that "Guns in the hands of non-experienced people, are the detriment of the American Society."

Well I guess I am the detriment to my society, Rudy. Being a woman, having served in our honorable military, working my little bottom off to support my single self and owning guns... I am not your "typical" woman. And I do not need a President telling what I can and can not own to protect myself nor if I have a rifle to shoot a animal to feed myself. Rudy, you did a good thing for the People of NY during 9/11 when you were needed, but that does not mean I will vote for you.

Thompson, I hope you are reading this crap because I am getting tired of the same rehtoric.

At least he had the presence of mind not to say Read my lips.

Does he really think anybody beleives he is now for gun ownership. He sounds more like a celebrity who feels that all past actions can be forgiven by finding God and going to rehab. He will not get my vote.

Amendments were meant to be amended, you rednecks. We don't have to live in fear of the British anymore.

"Your right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said.

Excuse me! The first thing I was taught in Boy Scouts was gun safety before I was even aloud to touch it. Then we were taught how to use it. Last but not least of all was that it is the most important Right in our Constitution. Because with out the right to be able to Bear Arms you can not protect the other rights our founders gave us.

Let me get this straight: The events of 9-11 caused Rudy to re-think his position on gun control? So someone could have stopped the attack if they only had a gun on them? Incredible...

Don't trust this guy. He will say anything to get elected. If you trust him you will be electing a worse RINO to Bush.

I in no way believe this guy. He would happily sign a total gun ban just like Hillary. The last thing the country needs is him or any New Yorker. My vote is going for Ron Paul.

Rudy, I think the pea is under the middle shell.

Oww come on people quit beating a dead Fred 4 people showed up at a rally for him the mainstream party already have Allen Keys standing in the wings to take on Ron Paul who going to wipe the floor with him ending the war now makes sense it’s a civil thing not American issues even the vets are backing Ron Paul the main stream media is scared to death of Ron he is the ghost in the machine hackberry bite the dust Flip Flop Rommy main support in Slat lake city give Ron over 3ook in one day The fireman across the country are dogging Rudy doing what ever they can to stop him for what he did to them 9/11 wake up a vote for a real statesman twenty years of integrity no body has that kind of creditability Ron Paul hope for American we can get a real republic back Check his record. then decide

What a farce from this joker. first, the NRA is just a old man's hunting club, has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. According to the fed's definition of a terriorist group, the NRA fits that description. Support the Gun Owners of America/

"...only politicians and criminals...." What's the difference?

Is anybody out there really naive' enough to actually believe there are ANY politicians in this country who will stand up for us? None of them will stand up for anything except whatever fashionable lie will get them elected, keep them elected, and enable them to dig deeper in your wallet. Power, corruption and greed are their holy trinity.

I've been a staunch conservative for most of my 57 years, somewhere between Rush Limbaugh and Ronald Reagan. I believe that true conservative ideals are the only thing that keep this country a strong, safe republic. Liberalism is a lie, a fraud, a cancer that is killing this country.

The scum in moveon.org and their ilk are taking us down into a cesspool of socialism, an ideology that has been an abject failure in every country that has ever tried it. But still they think they have a BETTER idea. Get a clue, idiots on the left.

Sadly, the right has nobody who can beat the Hillary juggernaut, and that scares the hell out of me. As dishonest, corrupt, greedy and self-serving as her husband was, she's much worse. Prepare for a renewal of the Hillary health-care scam, more of our rights to be stolen away, more taxes for the left's stupid social programs (which have accomplished NOTHING in 60-70 years but a drain on our economy and our wallets), more big-brotherism, more of the communist "it takes a village" lie, and a downward spiral into the socialist cesspool.

Rudy is a liar. He's a RINO, just like McCain. His "evolution" is a fraud.

It really doesn't matter what he says.

What DOES matter is who the NRA endorses, for that'll be the person who'll get my vote.

Plain & Simple.

"I'm ex-military, owner of both long guns and handguns and I have and use a concealed carry license, yes you could say I'm pro-gun.

But I'm also pro-gun control."
-Posted by Rob-

You Sir are a conundrum of hypocracy. You want but don't want other to have. You signed on the dotted lines and swore to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies. Yet you say that rules and regulations should be placed on my right. Sir, you have no right to infringe upon my rights. That is the purpose of my Constitution. If you know not what you swore to defend then you shouldn't have. To be ex military does not give you insight, apparently, as to the meaning of the Constitution. I support your right whether I like it or not what you do.(and that would be to the death). Don't think might rights any less important. Don't legislate my rights, or those parts of my rights you don't like, because you want to feel more secure (or whatever your reason is). The problem in America today is everyone wants their rights but they want to restrict my rights. You Sir do not define my life, liberty or pursuit of happiness, and I don't want anybody else trying to either.
Learn what the Constitution is and why it is before you legislate it away.

I am really leary about this evolution. George Bush and George Sr both made campain promises they did not fullfil. In both cases it made for a wasted vote for me. Once elected he may evolve back. I don't think elected officials feel bound by what they say on the campain trial. They just say what they have to say to be popular with their constituants. We have to look at their past to get an idea of what they stand for. I think Rudy is not for gun rights still, I just don't believe this change. He is still a good guy overall but this just does not seem right.

Where and when did this happen? I'm not questioning that these are his views or that you are telling anything other than facts, but if Giuliani said this, or Giuliani did that, your blog does not provide the crucial background information that is quite pertinant to the story you are telling. This is extremely poorly written.

Rudy is rotten to the core, just like Bush is! Both are as corrupt and tyrannical as Hitler, Mao or Stalin ever thought of being. Neither care in the least for the American people, the Constitution or anything other that wielding absolute power. BOTH are most certainly threats to our freedoms, not just our Second Amendment rights but ALL of them! I agree that Ron Paul is the best candidate on the scene today if we wish to remain free and not devolve into a total police state. It's now or never folks!

Sounds like Fred Thompson has Rudy running toward the conservative/libertarian base that supports gun rights. Rudy better remember that if he is elected, not to turn on gun owners and support any gun control laws. (Remember the 1994 Congressional elections following the Clinton Gun Ban on Semi-Autos and the Brady Bill)

I'm supporting Thompson since he is the only realistic candidate that is truly pro-gun ownership, but I do hope that this is a sign that Rudy will stay away from gun control if he ends up elected.

For the record, if Clinton or Obama is elected, kiss your guns goodbye. What they don't ban or confiscate will be useless since I'm sure they will go after ammunition too. It will be to risky to go out and do any shooting even if you hide your guns since someone will hear you and turn you in. Clinton/Obama would ban virtually every gun within months of taking office, I am certain of it. They will no doubt have a strongly Democratically controlled Congress to back them up.

So what's to say he won't "evolve" again... the other way?

I want a steady, PRINCIPLED conservative, not an opportunistic liberal who will say whatever he thinks might get him elected.

Rudy sounds like a typical wishy-washy liberal with no compass.

Actually to restate an above comment, you're another sheep in Bush's clothing!

When your own children are against you Rudy's credability on all of his flip flops to try to get
nomination shouldn't be believed. He would do anything or say anything to get the nomination.
He is the biggest phony in the race.

Mr. "nine eleven" is showing his true colors - Pay attention. Any politician that lacks principles will attempt to win over all groups - regardless. It would be different if they actually had any real principles.

Ron Paul doesnt have a chance to win the Republican primary. Too many American voters fear both personal freedom and self-responsibility. They prefer having a government to tell them what to eat, how to think and how to behave. Sheep are like that.

I support the 2nd Amendment to the fullest extent. That's just one of the many reasons why Ron Paul has my support.

All the rest of you phoney conservatives can jump on the Hannity Wagon and support Giuliani the liberal mobster if you want to. Heck, Giuliani should really be running as Hillary's Vice President. He's no conservative. He's a fa