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Obama's Pivot Points

03 Oct 2007 10:25 am

Having had time to read Barack Obama's foreign policy speech and talk with some of his advisers and some of his rivals advisers, I'm drawn to the conclusion that yesterday was meant to be a launch pad of sorts for the final stage of Obama's campaign argument.

Obama, an aide said, wrote the speech himself. It is much less cerebral and much more direct than his usual forays into policy. Actually, it wasn't a foray so much as a surgical strike. Half the speech was a sustained, detailed criticism of the foreign policy establishment. The rest was a precis of the ways in which president Obama would challenge conventional wisdom.

One reason Obama has had to up the volume of his Iraq critique is that it simply has not worked the way it was supposed to. Voters forgive Hillary Clinton -- enough of them do -- the cognitive dissonance factor plays in her favor. The challenge of basing any argument on the Iraq question comes in the form of a "so what" question. How is past judgment relevant to future judgment? One cannot simply assume that voters will make that link, particularly if there are external forces to blame for the past judgment -- i.e, George W. Bush.

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And there's something screwy about basing a turn-the-page campaign on a position taken four plus years ago, when he was a state senator. I mean, he's talking up his opposition to the war at its outset--fair enough--but that wasn't leadership, that was simply being right, and then he disrupted his antiwar narrative by voting to fund the war several times and for months opposing defunding and deadlines.

He's done very little to reinforce the sense that he's a leader on war-and-peace issues. Just last week he skipped the vote on Lieberman-Kyl--a missed oppotunity to link the present to both the past and the future. If he wins, it'll be despite the campaign he's running.

Obama's speech at Depaul convinced me he gets it. I'm off the fence. He's my guy.

Hunh? Cinderalla, what did he say that made you think he "gets it"?

"How is past judgment relevant to future judgment?"

For evidence-based voters it's very relevant. Obama has a track record of good judgment. If you're basing your decision on evidence, track record is a crucial part of the data. Furthermore, since she can't admit that giving Bush a blank check was a mistake, how are we to suppose that Hillary's future judgment will be informed by her mistakes.

In Iowa, where Obama has had the greatest opportunity to reach voters and talk about not only his track record of good judgment but also a track record of legislative accomplishment that includes consistent advocacy for and success in passing good government reform, energy policy, and health care legislation, Obama is gaining traction. The national polls do not capture this, but Iowa is a microcosm of what we will see nationally as the campaign takes shape.

Btw, Obama spoke out against Lieberman-Kyl before the vote, which was scheduled at the last minute. Edwards supporters are really showing their desperation by spamming this non-issue. It's not going to put your guy back in the top tier.

I like is analysis on the way forward and i am sure a reasonable person can connect the dots. Unfortunately, Americans are so dum they can't see it.

I am still going to vote for the guy, though. He's smart and intelligent than Billary

I like his analysis on the way forward and i am sure a reasonable person can connect the dots. Unfortunately, Americans are so dum they can't see it.

I am still going to vote for the guy, though. He's smart and intelligent than Billary

Don't you get the sense that when Hillary's spin machine puts together a package of what research tells them people want to hear. Next they coach her on how to deliver it sincerely. The whole thing seems so contrived.
Obama writes the speeches himself and delivers them with conviction. The major problem for him is that his coverage is unbalanced and misjudged. Take the Lieberman-Kyl and the move-on.org votes perception issues for example. People like David Mizner need to dig a little deeper for the truth because msm and sound bytes mislead.

jdr,
No I don't get that notion. I hear Hillary talk at length, extemporaneously about all issues.

And, if Obama wrote that speech himself, why didn't he know in the last debate that he was going to call for removing all troops in 16 months? Did he just come up with that idea? Or did someone else, and Obama just read the speech?

Most voters forgive Hillary because they forgive themselves. The fact is that the public approval for going to war with Iraq was, indeed, sky high. It's what makes Obama's position then important -- but people don't want to hold the vote against her because they know they changed their minds as well. Those of us who were in the minority then are in the minority now with our support of Obama.

Jeremy..where did you ever get this idea? "Obama has a track record of good judgment"

Here is a guy that was the Democratic leader on the Bridge to Nowhere in the Senate (only to go back and support legislation identifying who the supporters were...mirrors would help more than his legislation), Lawyer for and recipient of funds from indicted Real Estate Racketeer Tony Rezko (only to later return those funds), Passenger on ADM's Private Jet (only to support legislation regulating receipt of Jet rides from lobbyists) that you claim to have "a track record of good judgement"

His politics and media image are so disjointed from his track record that the main thing Obama has done right in his campaign is to separate himself from his miserable track record.

JBP

I thought it was a great speech and it is about time he makes the connection between past judgement and future judgement. He needs to get people to realize that his major opponents supported a war they knew to be wrong because they were afraid to be perceived as weak, but it is tough to do that without being overly negative. Obama needs to argue that he is the one with the most backbone, less likely to sell out his principles in the face of polling or Republican jingoism and miliatarism.

While you can nitpick about whether Obama was gracious to Kerry and Edwards before the convention in muting his criticism or whether supporting some funding bills belies his consistent opposition to the principle of going into Iraq, I think that is small potatoes compared to the huge evolutions the other major candidates have had on this issue. The media doesn't often play the file footage from the senate of Hillary and Edwards repeating Bush's Iraq talking points "with conviction" and thus thus they media denies the public important visuals and helps blur the distinctions. Also unchallenged is this idea that it's the intelligence's fault. Anybody with common sense knew that Iraq wasn't that much of a threat after being beaten once by the US iin the 90's, under sanctions and no-fly zones. Moreover, Saddam and Osama hated each other. We were living in a bizarro world in 2002 where massive group think set in and even if Obama hasn't been perfect, he was right and this shows some character to not just go along with the bandwagon. He is a leader; Hillary and Edwards are followers.

Why are we as Democrats so prone to nominating people the Republicans can brand as flip-floppers and hypocrites? Despite being right on policies, this is how Gore and Kerry got beaten. HIllary will be portrayed the same way and I don't know whether she is as smooth as Bill to counter it. Why can't we Democrats nominate someone who isn't so easily caricatured as a crass opportunist? Guilliani is going to compete in Blue States and Hillary will help him hold his base too. We are heading off a cliff here...I hope it's not too late.

"How is past judgment relevant to future judgment?"

How you ask? Overwhelmingly so I respond. Borrowing from a sport analogy, one could pose a similar question: “How is Tiger Woods’ past performance indicative of victories in future tournaments he is expected to compete in?” Of course, no such analysis provides a 100% certainty, but the odds are significantly favorable when one’s track record demonstrates piercing foresight that is on par with 20/20 hindsight. However, the argument can also be made in Hillary’s favor that one learns from mistakes and her ill-fated vote to support the war in Iraq has contributed to her growth on the foreign policy front. Moreover, she was not isolated in her voting position and many fellow democrats made the same error. As the initial post in this discussion thread rightly stated, more voters than not will and have forgiven Hillary. That might not be the case if she continued to stubbornly support the pro war Iraq vote she made in 2002, but she has provided ample evidence that she no longer believes what she did back then and is now against the war. Obama risks making the con-Iraq war vote the central piece of his campaign, and by doing so neglects the much more potent arsenal he has at his disposal – The ability to inspire hope of better days to come. His enthusiasm, oratory skills, inspiring power of delivery, “down-to-earthness” are all neutralized when he focuses solely on the Iraq vote of 2002. To derail the Hillary train that is starting to pick up speed, Obama will have to switch to a strategy that does make mention of that well judged vote, but such mention to be done only as one of many other accentuating examples that surround his core message of hope and better days ahead. In that respect Hillary can’t compete.

Here is a guy that was the Democratic leader on the Bridge to Nowhere in the Senate (only to go back and support legislation identifying who the supporters were...mirrors would help more than his legislation), Lawyer for and recipient of funds from indicted Real Estate Racketeer Tony Rezko (only to later return those funds), Passenger on ADM's Private Jet (only to support legislation regulating receipt of Jet rides from lobbyists) that you claim to have "a track record of good judgement"

Where are you getting this stuff?

Obama had nothing to do with the Bridge to Nowhere, and in fact, as you point out in the parentheses, has been a leader in the Senate on ethics reform, going so far as to team up with Tom Coburn (the point-man against the Bridge to Nowhere) to pass earmark transparency legislation.

Rezko was a mistake, he apologized and returned the money, par for the course for any politician who has ever accepted donations from anybody at any time, not because of their inherent character flaws but because of the reality of the system.

And then you mention how he's taken a lead on lobbying reform (Feingold-Obama), legislating against the interests of lobbyists. It would be one thing if he accepted a ride on a lobbyist jet (I actually don't even know if this is true) and then passed legislation in support of that lobbyist, but here he's done just the opposite.

I don't understand how you can post something that touches so heavily on his record of accomplishment in the Senate (earmark/ethics/lobbying reform) and present it as somehow evidence of a miserable track record.

I watched B-Rock's speech last night on C-SPAN. As a Hillary supporter, I hope he keeps giving this speech.

Bill Clinton says that all elections are about the future. Clinton is winning this election because her campaign appearances, debate peformances, and advertising present a vision of the future. Taking on the Republicans and beating them. A President who sees the invisible middle class. Quality, affordable health care for all. A new foreign policy driven by the postive outreach of the United States with Clinton Global Initiative's Bill Clinton as a front man).

B-Rock's speech felt like a dour tongue-lashing about how horrible American has been. A backwards looking speech that barely mentioned the Republican administration as the cause and seemed to suggest that the Democrats were at fault for not working more closely with the Republican Administration. Hardly an inspiring vision of the future. American voters don't care about 2002. They want to picture that "gleaming city on the hill" in the future.

david mizner,

You say, "Just last week he skipped the vote on Lieberman-Kyl--a missed oppotunity to link the present to both the past and the future."

Well you're right. However, the vote wasn't close and was never going to be close. So his vote didn't matter, and thus it would have been a waste of time he could've spent (and did spend) campaigning. He expressed his opinion very well on that bill, however. Presidential candidates will miss a lot of votes, especially ones where their voice won't matter. He'll miss more, but so will everyone else.

HWC:

You didn't LISTEN to the speech. You HEARD what you wanted to hear that confirmed YOUR pre-conceived notions. I might suggest READING the speech and you'll notice that he's doing something that Bill Clinton does better than almost anyone: framing the debate. Certainly the 2002 AUMF was his starting point, but it sure as hell isn't where he ended up.

And for the record, HRC isn't presenting anything about the future. As a matter of fact, she's making as little commitment as possible (my guess is to foreclose future attacks by the Republican nominee in the general) and trying to straddle as many issues as possible (witness her Kyl-Lieberman Amendment vote and now her co-sponsorship of the Webb Amendment (which no one (including Senator Webb) thinks is going to get a straight up vote). She's running a helluva a campaign; I just don't understand why her supporters have to result to misconstruing her opponents position to defend her.

Hillary sucks, nobody likes her, the American people decided they didn't like her in Bill's first term and half of them still don't. If we Democrats Nominate Hillary we will once again manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

HRC spells defeat

"Obama had nothing to do with the Bridge to Nowhere" wow, you could have fooled me. I wonder why he voted for it then? Hmm..he also traded his support for the Bridge to Nowhere for the I-355 extension, which I suppose means "Obama had nothing to do" with it.

The track record is what he actually does, not what he campaigns for. Actually being in cahoots with Rezko, on the Jet with ADM, and championing the Bridge to Nowhere is what he does. Being against all those things is what his Publicist and Campaign managers do, which is to spin the truth and bury his track record.

JBP

The track record is what he actually does, not what he campaigns for. Actually being in cahoots with Rezko, on the Jet with ADM, and championing the Bridge to Nowhere is what he does. Being against all those things is what his Publicist and Campaign managers do, which is to spin the truth and bury his track record.

How are the bills he writes and passes not a part of what he does? Did his publicist write the Coburn-Obama Transparency Act or Feingold-Obama Lobbying and Ethics Reform Act?

The Bridge to Nowhere was a federal earmark placed in the 2005 highway bill by Don Young (R-Alaska), a bill that included all funding for federal highways and highway safety programs for the upcoming fiscal year. It passed the Senate by a vote of 89-11, including a Yay vote by Tom Coburn despite the failure of his amendment to strip the bill of Bridge to Nowhere funds (which lost by a margin of of 82-15).

Bridge to Nowhere isn't gonna hang around Barack Obama's neck. Or maybe you're confusing him with Ted Stevens and Don Young?

Coburn-Obama is the biggest bill dealing with the regulation of earmarks to pass the Senate in 10 years. How is Obama in anyway vulnerable on The Bridge to Nowhere? How did he in anyway "champion" it?

You didn't LISTEN to the speech. You HEARD what you wanted to hear that confirmed YOUR pre-conceived notions.

Hey, I invested the 40 minutes in watching the entire speech. I try to do that with all the major candidates, because I don't feel that the media soundbytes are enough.

I found the speech to be negative in tone, backwards looking, and lacking in the specifics necessary for a plausible vision of the future. The audience of college students appeared to confirm my reaction. Their enthusiasm was muted to say the least for a major campaign speech.

The fact is that we, the Democratic voters, get it. B-Rock made an anti-war speech five years ago. He's told us in every stump speech, debate appearance, and TV ad since February. It's not that his spiel isn't getting out; it's that voters aren't buying it.

This was nothing like a Bill Clinton campaign speech. Clinton always made it clear that he felt our pain and then outlined a specific plan to make us believe that we would feel better after he was elected President. All elections are about the future. The irony of this campaign is that the guy who's claim to fame was his soaring rhetoric in a 2004 convention speech is losing the inspirational battle to the "cold, calculating" candidate. Hillary is leading because she is making a connection to individual voters - one rally, one debate, one TV appearance, and one campaign ad at a time.

hwc: How are we not supposed to look to the past to see how people are going to behave in the future? People say one thing on the trail then do another. Like Bush the First with "no new taxes read my lips" and Bill Clinton on gays in the military, so you can't really trust what they say they are going to do. What they did is what they did, and is a much better indicator of who they are. And HRC's past behavior does not inspire confidence - she linked Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda in the run-up to the war:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/10/how-hillary-cli.html

How does that sit with you?

hwc = Hillary Woddum Clinton?

This was nothing like a Bill Clinton campaign speech. Clinton always made it clear that he felt our pain and then outlined a specific plan to make us believe that we would feel better after he was elected President.

Bill ain't runnin' - Hill is.

All elections are about the future.

Couldn't agree more.

The irony of this campaign is that the guy who's claim to fame was his soaring rhetoric in a 2004 convention speech is losing the inspirational battle to the "cold, calculating" candidate.

Wishful thinking. You meant "whose" btw. The Clinton campaign's biggest liability is their candidate. The Obama campaign's biggest asset is their candidate.

Hillary is leading because she is making a connection to individual voters - one rally, one debate, one TV appearance, and one campaign ad at a time.

National polls - especially at this point - mean nothing. Check the latest Iowa polls fun by folks in, you know, Iowa (as opposed to DC or NYC) and then tell me about her insurmountable lead or her great connection to the voters.

And I LOVE the one, which you left out, about how she's convincing folks she's the most electable. I can't wait until a non-aligned political scientist gets a hold of THAT one.

HWC, Calling Obama's speech "a dour tongue lashing" is funny. SF Bay, saying Hillary speaks "extemporaneously" at length on issues is hilarious, in its own pompous sort of way. Hillary's spin is coached by Glover Park. Patti Solis Doyle is her campaign manager. That's Spin City. Now go look up what media conglomerates are loading her pockets.
HWC, if rational bipartisan plans for nuclear disarmament, endorsed by Weinberger and Kissinger seem "mean spirited" go get yourself a chai latte. But while you are there read more about Obama's track record. It's time for change not cheap rhetoric.

Clinton endorsed the Nunn non-proliferation initiatives in a foreign policy speech in 2006 and has mentioned her support in several speeches this year. So, Obama is just jumping on the bandwagon with that issue. It's a nice issue, but not a game-changing vision. I was a little confused by his call for sanctions against non-proliferation treaty violators since our ally Pakistan is not a signatory country to the treaty. I'm also a little confused how trotting out Sorenson, Brezhinski, Kissinger, and Hamilton contitutes "turning the page" from the "tired, old ways of Washington insiders."

When I say a vision for a new US foreign policy, I can get energized over Clinton's commitment to send Bill Clinton and Al Gore and George Bush, Senior on the road to talk to the leaders and the people of the world even before her inauguration. Just as Clinton's Global Initiative and the Clinton/Bush Tsunami relief change the map on US image abroad, Clinton's concept, coupled with the impact of the backwards US electing a woman can pay immediate dividends. I'm more excited about foreign policy potential than any other area. B-Rock's personal diplomacy with Castro and Ahmadinejhad? Not so much.

Clinton endorsed the Nunn non-proliferation initiatives in a foreign policy speech in 2006 and has mentioned her support in several speeches this year. So, Obama is just jumping on the bandwagon with that issue.

Sorry, hwc, but you're a little behind the curve. Obama teamed up with Richard Lugar to work on expanding Nunn-Lugar non-proliferation, through the Lugar-Obama bill. Some links:

Wash. Post Op-Ed, Dec 3 2005

Obama Press Release, May 23, 2006

Lugar Press Release, June 28, 2007

It's nice to know Clinton gave a speech in support of Barack's legislation, but I don't know if that really counts as leadership on the issue.

Another big difference between Hillary and Obama is that on her campaign website blog section, it is very tightly controlled and no one can offer any criticism whatsoever. Very democratic, huh? Also, about her 'programmed' laugh that she trots out as a very deflective device to throw off the questioner when she is asked something extremely important that she does not want to answer, like:

Considering that, on the single most important vote in your entire senatorial career, the vote to authorize a war of choice that launched the most devastating foreign policy disaster in American history, and that YOU GOT WRONG, why should the American people trust your judgment?

People, let's all wake up and not drink the Koolaid of the MSM's national poll numbers. President Clinton, before the Iowa caucus, was at 3%! And remember the volatility of the election of 2004 on the Dem side.

Anyone who has self-coronated herself, with the help, of course, of the MSM, AND deliberately avoids any questions from people at rallies, like the one Obama genuinely answered above, CAN NOT get my vote. This country needs an honest broker in the White House, someone who is a uniter and has proved it as a community organizer, State Senator, US Senator, and above all, as a human being.

If the world could vote, Obama would win a resounding victory. The stakes are too high to put a tringulator, par excellence, in the White House. We need the vision, moral courage and commitment to social justice and fairness that Obama represents.

One more thing...Hillary is extremely PRO increasing H1B visas for hi tech workers coming in from India to replace our unemployed IT professionals. Those imported workers get, on average, $20K less per annum, and no benefits. Hillary is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for helping to gut the American middle class. Let's wake up and see that she is not only a hawk, but no friend of the American working and middle classes. Just remember the travesty of NAFTA that her husband put through.

A couple of other important issues that we have to thank Bill for... the consolidation of media happened under his watch, and now about 7 corporations own everything we see, hear or read.

And the Clinton administration also gave us the total inaction on the Rwandan genocide, seeing it all unfold on our sophisticated satellites, and sitting back and not intervening. Let's remember these facts. That is why Bill Clinton is always keen to have his photo-ops with Desmond Tutu, to take people's minds off his utter callousness of the 1990s when he did nothing to stop the Rwandan genocide.

If the world could vote, OBAMA will win this elections by the largest of margin one would imagine. The world needs change of leadership in Amercia and you have one,Obama the only one, even your enemies would pay respect and discuss issues so important to the human race with him.

Dave,

Obama traded his support for the Bridge to Nowhere in exchange for inclusion of the I-355 extension in the same bill, though it is doubtful he ever really opposed it (or any other pork-barrell spending for that matter). Obama took a leadership role in getting the Bridge to Nowhere passed, so that the I-355 exension would also pass, a Champion if you will.

You are confusing his track record with the publicity stunts Obama pulls. Passing some vague bill suggesting that legislation be searchable is entirely different than pushing the actual Pork Barrel legislation. Passing some unenforcable lobbying bill is entirely different than zipping around in a lobbyists jet. His track record is observable; his campaigning comes across as publicty stunts.

How is that legislation search system coming along anyway?

JBP

Obama traded his support for the Bridge to Nowhere in exchange for inclusion of the I-355 extension in the same bill, though it is doubtful he ever really opposed it (or any other pork-barrell spending for that matter). Obama took a leadership role in getting the Bridge to Nowhere passed, so that the I-355 exension would also pass, a Champion if you will.

Where are you getting this info? I've never seen anything regarding Obama taking the lead on the Bridge to Nowhere. Did he give a speech on the floor in support of the bridge? I did a google search and the only hits are blog threads in which you yourself have made these same comments.

Do you mean Obama made comments speaking out against the Bridge to Nowhere, decrying it as a waste of public funds, though ultimately decided to vote for the highway bill (despite the BTN) because it provided necessary funding for highway safety and repair in his home state? Because, if so, you just described 90% of the Senate (including Tom Coburn), 92% of the House, and President Bush, all of whom went ahead and made this highway bill law.

Coburn-Obama doesn't got into effect until Jan 1, 2008. President Bush signed it into law Sept. 26th of last year (ie it's not a suggestion). Once it does go into effect, there will be public accountability for earmark legislation that never existed before.

How exactly is the lobbying disclosure bill, one that prevents lobbyists from providing free/reduced fare air travel, unenforceable? And how is Obama passing this bill, despite the fact that it will cost him a lot of money and goes completely against the interests of any lobbyist who has ever supplied a flight for any politician--be it Obama, John Edwards, John McCain, etc.--evidence of bad judgment?

Taking the lead on important issues and passing needed legislation is not a "publicity stunt."

JBP -- I just want to clarify you understand that each individual earmark isn't voted on individually; ie no Senator can say "I'll vote for your earmark if you vote for mine." They're put in in committee then the appropriation bill is voted on as a whole.

DW,

I am familiar with the horsetrading tactics that Obama (along with Hastert in the House btw) and Stevens used to include their favorite earmarks in the transportation bill.

You keep missing the difference between the actual actions of the Senator and his public relations moves. Support for earmarks, flying with lobbyists, building uninhabitable affordable housing with a indicted developer is what the Senator does. Stating that he is opposed to above three is what he wants the public to hear. Never stopped him from doing it himself.

If Sen Obama is so opposed to flying around with lobbyists...why was he flying around with lobbyists?

JBP

I really feel like you're using distortion and a false understanding (not your own) of how the Senate works to make your points, and that's disapointing. You imply Obama spoke out in favor of Bridge to Nowhere funding, that he voted and lobbied directly for those funds in specific (as opposed to a larger highway spending bill that 90+% of congress and the president approved of despite almost universal reservations over some of the earmarks contained within), that his earkmark transparency legislation is a "suggestion" and that the lobbyist bill is unenforceable. I suppose the one good thing to come out of witnessing this line of misleading attack is that it provides a preview of the way in which any Senator's voting record will be dishonestly used against them should a Senator from either party win his/her respective nomination.

I checked out your blog, and it appears you're a fan of Ron Paul, which makes this line of misleading attack even more disappointing; Ron Paul is about as pure a politician you can get, in terms of being able to eloquently and without distortion make the case for his views, making honest and substantive distinctions between him and his opponents. I don't subscribe to his political philosophy, but I admire the way he makes his case. Nothing you've said so far against Obama is either substantive or honest.

Another distortion: Obama is not "flying around with lobbyists" and hasn't in some time.

Obama took a total of 23 subsidized flights in his first year as a Senator (releasing all relevant information regarding those flights voluntarily, even before this was made mandatory by his own legislation). He has voluntarily paid corporate fare on any non-commercial flights since his second year in the Senate. Those 23 subsidized flights could potentially lead to a conflict of interest, though, in order to determine whether they have, you'll have to look at his legislative actions (and yes, legislating is action for a Senator). The problem with lobbyists providing free/discounted flights on their jets (or treating politicians to lavish meals, gifts, etc. etc.) is that it may influence that politician's legislative/vote making process in that lobbyist's favor. Obama has actively legislated against lobbyists, time and time again, and has taken a lead among all politicians to curb lobbyist influence over the political process, through concrete and enforceable legislative actions.

Show me evidence of Obama taking a flight from a major lobbyist and then voting in favor of that lobbyist and we can talk. For me, all I see is a guy who hasn't taken a subsidized flight in years, and in that time has taken a strong lead in the Senate actively lobbying, passing, championing lobbyist reform and earkmark transparency. Of all the candidates running, Obama and McCain stand closest to Ron Paul on standing up for these issues. If these issues are important to you, Obama should be garnering your respect and admiration, not a heap of mocking/dishonest distortions.

If you're looking to spread awareness and promote a website of political/news analysis, using these misleading rhetorical tactics is a terrible way to go about it.

Lets see, Sen Obama campaigned to maintain ethanol/sugar tariffs, that go to benefit...ADM! Is it really that hard to connect the dots?

What is it that triggers such honesty and forthrightedness in Sen Obama? He has a laundry list of questionable practice, then campaigns against his own record.

I suppose it is better that he spends his time on lobbying reform than actually implementing any of his more zany ideas...nationalizing automobile company's pensions and healthcare costs comes to mind; creating a system of fines for subprime lenders that go to pay mortgages for subprime borrowers is perhaps the loopiest; the claim that healthcare executives are "terrorizing the unisured" while his wife worked as a remarkably successful healtcare executive, perhaps the most abrasive.

You still miss the point. Obama's track record stinks. He can pass all the high minded legislation he likes, but his actions speak 10x louder than his PR, if anyone in the media would ever report on what the audacious man does, rather than how they feel about him.

JBP

He can pass all the high minded legislation he likes, but his actions speak 10x louder than his PR

Ok, this is just ridiculous. Legislation is not PR, it is law. Legislating is the most important action a Senator takes, it's why we have elections and what we elect them to do.

Without legislation, they'd just be a bunch of guys in girls in suits flying in airplanes.

Also, thank you for your more substantive criticisms against Obama. Those were honest. This stuff about him being the Democratic point-man on securing funds for a Bridge to Nowhere? Not so much.

Nonsense,

Unenforced and unenforcable legislation is PR.

Obama and the others are out collecting records amounts of money as I type this regardless of the ridiculous campaign finance laws on the books.

The whole subject of the post is the track record. Obama's track record stinks on earmarks and ethics. His economic programs are even worse, but neither gets reported regardless.

JBP

I find it funny that a lot of the comments here deal with Obama who really doesn't have anything to show except his bestselling book and the adulation of his latte-sipping supporters. The guy has only one accomplishment: that he didn't vote for the authorization on the war in Iraq, a vote he wasn't even around when it happened. And he keeps harping on this one "accomplishment" and the majority of Americans are really tired of it, except a tiny minority who have been snowed by all the media hype. And yes, he is a media creation, no doubt about it. He has a lot of criticism of others but he doesn't have one solid, viable idea of his own. It's easy to criticize those who voted for or againsts a particular issue, but to be missing in action for an important NO vote such as the one designating Iran's revolutionary guards as terrorists is a sign of a political coward.

In terms of experience, I think Bill Richardson is the most qualified candidate. He has broad international experience and recently negotiated the dismantling of N. Korea's nuclear facilities. He also tells it like it is, regardless of the political consequences. He will overtake Obama and hillary one of these days.