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Gee, Thanks, Billy (Updated With Clinton Campaign Response)

12 Dec 2007 06:59 pm

A Clinton co-chair in New Hampshire has handed the Obama campaign an enormously valuable gift.

By publicly raising some as-yet unanswered questions about Obama's use of cocaine as a teenager, Billy Shaheen virtually guarantees that Obama will never be asked those questions or that if he is asked, he'll use a valid excuse to opt out of answering them. ("Why," he might say, "should I respond to a Clinton smear?")

The Clinton campaign cannot say that Shaheen is a minor nobody; he's a major somebody, a former state party chair, the husband to Jeanne Shaheen, and an adviser who talks to Clinton's state director daily.

The Obama campaign is angry.

Here's what Shaheen said, according to the
Washington Post .

"The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight ... and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use," said Shaheen said Obama's candor on the subject would "open the door" to further questions. "It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome."

A separate issue is whether the questions are valid, and whether Shaheen's sense of the GOP playbook is correct.

Do voters want to know whether Obama used cocaine beyond his teen years? Is it relevant? Has Obama, by conceding the mistake, satisfied the concerns of the public and the press? Arguably, so far as the Democratic primary goes, he has.

But Shaheen is probably correct that some Republicans will try to bring up the issue in some forum if Obama is the nominee. But nominees John McCain and Rudy Giuliani probably would not.

Regardless: this unforced error will hurt. Billy Shaheen wants Democrats to think about Obama and cocaine, but what they'll think about, instead, is how the Clinton campaign is raising the issue. It's fair to assume that Shaheen's comments were not sanctioned by Arlington.

"Senator Clinton is out every day talking about the issues that matter to the American people," said Howard Wolfson, the Clinton campaign's communications director. These comments were not authorized or condoned by the campaign in any way."

Comments (32)

The Clintons never practice what they preach. Whether it's this slip with Obama, or getting condescending with Edwards for "throwing mud." We saw this all throughout the 1990s. The Clintons are best at playing the victims. As a Democrat I find it disheartening and mildly disgusting. They are bad for the Democratic Party.

Look, Hillary can't force people to like her, and she can't fake warmth or even a soul. She has a great sense of humor, we're told, but she seems to keep that behind the scenes. All we get is the robot.

A big problem is that Hillary Clinton is more of an affirmative action baby than Obama will ever be-- she attached herself to her Star Bill and off she went. She would never be a Senator from New York without him. Barack worked hard all the way-- not just until marriage.

And now the Clinton camp is frustrated that they can't just command Democrats to like Hillary the way they love Bill. Hillary doesn't really seem to believe anything, rather she believes in everything the person in front of her wants.

Hillary is smart, but not a modern-day President.

Whether you like Obama or not, this crap is crap. Clinton should apologize.

I don't buy that the Clinton campaign wasn't sending out a trial ballon on this or they haven't been talking behind the scenes on how to hit Obama and Shaheen slipped.

Either way, it's gold for Obama. It makes the Clinton campaign look petty and small time since the whole issue DID come up a few weeks ago and both Rudy and Mitt didn't really hit him on it; and Mitt got backlash for saying you shouldn't be honest about your past.So obviously this won't play well because a young black man who was confused and made serious mistakes, stepped back from the edge, got a grade A Ivy Leauge education, and then went back to work in the African Ameican community is an American success story. And just like voters didn't like the hit on Bush's alcholism gotcha in 2000, they don't like the hit on Obama's teenage past. Because the pivotal point is that both men broke away from destructive habits and redeemed themseleves and became driven people.

America likes that.

This hit, just reinforces the desperate war room story angle that's been playing for a couple of news cycles. And it diminshes her honest critiques on his mandate issues; because she's calling his honesty into question with them when her campaign is calling her own character into question too.

I think if he survives the debate tommorow, because he sucks at these things, he's got a shot at actually winning the whole thing.

With the holidays, after this week, everything is going to turn off politics.

Nice post, Marc. I spoke to a Hillary Clinton supporter today and told them about this story...and their reaction was a combination of fear and shame. Ha ha ha...there is glee in anti-Hillary land today!

http://democratsagainsthillary.blogspot.com/2007/12/is-billy-shaheen-on-drugs.html

"This hit, just reinforces the desperate war room story angle that's been playing for a couple of news cycles."

Yup. And the longer Clinton and Obama trade dirty politics shots at one another, the better for Edwards.

We're in for a repeat of 2004, with Clinton playing the Gephardt role and Obama playing the Dean role. Clinton and Obama keep knocking one another down, and Edwards gets to swoop in.

"With the holidays, after this week, everything is going to turn off politics."

This may be true nationally, but Iowa is going to keep focused during the holidays.

Can't argue with anything written above (and that's no fun).

So I'll just add the Clinton camp is looking increasingly amateurish. And it comes at a time when she's down to her last argument: "nominate me, because you know I'll run a good campaign against the Republicans and we just don't know about this Obama guy..."

The Clinton campaign looked great when it was 20-30 points up everywhere. Last summer the press was buzzing about their flawless execution. In retrospect, it seems that was easy. But get her in a tough battle, and either her or the people she picked to be with her just don't seem up to the task. Obama, by contrast, is looking more and more comfortable all the time.

I'm not saying she's out of it, by any means, but I do question whether we can still call her the frontrunner.

Of course there were reports yesterday that Clinton aides were pushing this story. So either it was a trial balloon, or an inexplicable failure on the part of the Clinton campaign to deal with a known problem.

Ah, spoke too soon about not having anything to argue with. Petey, I don't think Edwards is going to benefit. Maybe in Iowa, but after that his lack of organization will most likely do him in - besides the Iowa momentum will quickly be lost in New Hampshire.

Just my two cents.

"Petey, I don't think Edwards is going to benefit. Maybe in Iowa, but after that his lack of organization will most likely do him in - besides the Iowa momentum will quickly be lost in New Hampshire."

If you look at the internals of the NH polls, you'll find that current voter choices are weak preferences, and that all three of the major candidates are viewed extremely favorably by NH Dems.

Edwards major problem at this point in NH is that voters have doubts about his viability to win the nomination. An Iowa win is going to make those doubts disappear literally overnight.

If you think you can let Edwards win Iowa and stop him in New Hampshire, you've got a big surprise coming your way.

I don't think anyone really knows what will happen if Edwards-Obama-Clinton finish 1-2-3 in Iowa. Both Edwards and Obama are popular, both would probably get at least some momentum, and we don't really know how much support Clinton would lose and free up for Edwards or Obama to capture. So, it seems possible to me that Edwards could win NH, but it also seems possible to me that Obama could.

I guess that is why they play them.

Maybe I do have a surprise coming. I still suspect Edwards is going to pull Iowa out. If so, we'll get a rare chance to see who is actually right and wrong between us. Doesn't seem to happen much with message board debates.

Good luck to your guy.

Wow, the Clinton campaign must be really frustrated. I don't like what Shaheen said, but let me see if I get the analysis right:

1) Everyone expects the GOP to raise Obama's drug use in the fall;
2) Even though everyone expects that and we're three weeks from the primaries, nobody in the MSM has pressed Obama on the issue;
3) Now that a Clinton person has raised the issue, no one in the MSM will press Obama on it (even though they pursued drug/alcohol stories related to Bill Clinton and, to a lesser degree Bush; and
4) if the MSM does ask Obama about it, he can dodge the issue because someone associated with Hillary Clinton initially raised it and so therefore he doesn't have to answer it.

Wow, I wonder if the media will be so kind to Obama after he wipes out the evil and dreaded Clinton and becomes the Democratic nominee?

" If so, we'll get a rare chance to see who is actually right and wrong between us. Doesn't seem to happen much with message board debates."

'Tis the fun of having the actual voting start.

Petey -

I love Edwards, so that would be fine with me. But I suspect that after the week of "Obama is the Messiah" coverage of Obama-Oprah, it's going to be very hard for people to see Obama as part of this negative battle. At any rate, godspeed...if Edwards were the top alternative to Hillary, I'd be all about him, but for now, I think I'm leaning towards Obama.

"if Edwards were the top alternative to Hillary, I'd be all about him, but for now, I think I'm leaning towards Obama."

Unless you're an Iowan, fine by me. I prefer Obama to Clinton on all grounds except healthcare, and will very likely vote for him should the race be down to those two candidates when my state rolls around.

But Edwards is a vote getter, and Democrats who have focused in on the race tend to like him a lot, which perfectly describes Iowa caucus-goers.

In any case, we'll all have a better idea of who's viable after January 3rd.

As a proud NH Democrat, member of its State Committte and a supporter of Sen. Obama, I found Billy Shaheen's comments to be unnecessary, uncalled-for and well below his dignity (I've known the man for years).

Numerous blogs yesterday indicated that Clinton surrogates will start questioning Obama's past drug use - which he openly disclosed in "Dreams From My Father" - but I never imagined it would be someone who has done so much for our state and our state party.

I cannot in good faith support his wife for in her primary race for U.S. Senate if he does not apologize for his disgusting diatribe. I chose not to believe the Clintons or Shaheens would engage in a smear campaign against a fellow Democrat. I was naively and sadly mistaken. I am ashamed to be a NH Democrat today.

Are you kidding me? Sheehan saying that the first serious black Presidential contender might get asked if he's ever given or sold drugs to anyone is politically INSANE!

That kind of talk may not mean much in lily-white New Hampshire, but it ain't gonna play well down here at all. Wait 'til some black preachers down here hear about it. Hell, that'll disgust a large number of white Democrats down here. At this point, I'd put a $1,000 on Hillary losing SC to Obama.

@DHB the msm doesn't really need to press Obama on his drug use, he says all in his book. In fact tweety has been harping on it all year. I think it's a positive topic for Obama, because it reminds voters about his honesty.
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How can the Republicans bring this up when Bush is also a known cocaine user and recovering alcoholic? Doesn't seem like that will really stand up if they do bring it up.

I have always supported Bill Clinton through thick and thin. I even defended him during his impeachment trial by writing letters to the editors in his defense which were published by the Dallas Morning News, the Washington Post, the New-York Times and the Wall Street Journal. But this is it. I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. If she ever won the Democratic nomination and ran against McCain, I would vote McCain whom I supported in the past against Bush. However, I never thought possible for me not to support a Democrat in the upcoming general election, but today her campaign went too far. This is an issue of integrity. For me, they crossed the red line with no hope of redemption.

Obama's admission of COCAINE use may be common and accepted knowledge among Democratic afficionados, but it was not a well known item among THE LARGE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDANTS across the country. Until now that this tidbit has hit THE NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS on the eve of the FINAL DEBATE. Concurrent with the release of THE MITCHELL REPORT detailing DRUG ABUSE AMONG WELL KNOWN ATHLETES.

The next week of the news cycle is going to be CONSTANT INTERMINGELD REFRAIN of "..Drugs....Obama...Cheaters....Steroids...Dismay...Cocaine...Barry Bonds...Amphetymenes...Sammy Sosa...Letdown....Barack Obama...Ruined reputation...Drugs...denial...National pastime...Blow....In the past...Can't elect to Hall of Fame.... Obama...Bonds...Michael Vick..lied...failed dr..prison..disgrace...Compromised ideals...failed drug test...disappointment...drug users....cheats...Obama...career compromised..."

I really can't see a reason to crow if you're an Obama supporter. Barack is going to be marginalized with the likes of Barry Bonds, Michael Vick, Pacman Jones, and who knows who. A likable, but not fully trustworthy supporting character. Like Huggy Bear in the detective series. "CRACK ALABAMA".

It is a sad sad day for us Democrats... I had read the blogs on Huffingtonpost, and all the talk about the Clinton's going any lengths to win... but inspite of me not supporting Hillary, I always held her in high regards... but after today I would be more inclined to believe all those people who question her integrity and principles... what next, hiring Carl Rove to oversee their South Carolina campaign?

The real damage that the Clinton team is doing will be felt at the state party level. Look at the post from Manchester United. All Penn-Ickes-Grunwald care about is winning, and they somehow convinced Shaheen - who should know better - to fall on his sword for them.

After January 8, these heedless people move on to their next victims, leaving a fractured party in NH to pick up the pieces, and significantly Jeannie Shaheen, who faces a critical race in the Demo effort to increase their hold on the Senate. Stop and think about the daunting task of soliciting financial and personal support from disaffected Obama supporters in the wake of this and what's likely to come.

As someone said to me yesterday: "If the Clintons can't get what they want on their own terms, they'll ruin it for everyone else." And we'll pay the price.

Obama supporters can argue all they want, but I am yet to hear about a president who was a pothead and who snorted cocainie not out of curiosity but out of compulsion. on top of it he almost talkes infront of kids as if its not a big deal and its OK. I dont care republicans attacking him, I am now concerned if he would have right judgements of whats allowable in public discourse infront of young kids. for some reason, his core values seem to be lacking. I will have to put him second now and promote Edwards.

This post by anna has appeared in several blogs I have read today. Let me guess, Clinton campaign worker.
I just hope Clinton keeps up these baseless attacks because it will only hurt her in the end.

George W. Bush + Karl Rove IS TO John McCain + Had illegitimate baby with black prostitute

AS

Hillary Clinton + Bill Shaheen IS TO Barack Obama + Sold and used cocaine until last Thursday

Go Hillary! Specifically, go away. Far, far away.

All our NH posters above, you second what I'be been told since this broke. Shaheen's pulled the boner of the campaign and may cost Jeanne a Senate seat.

This is the latest in Clinton's gaffes. She's got her top advisors, none of whom have one iota of experience in Iowa, sitting on their collective asses in Northern Virgina while she self-destructs.

If the rumors are true that Bill's about to explode, I'd say the sooner the better. Edwards' and Obama's campaign have to be laughing their backsides off at the Hillary Amateur Hour. This is leadership, this is judgement? Hold that UFO Dennis, I'm coming with you.

We're in for a repeat of 2004, with Clinton playing the Gephardt role and Obama playing the Dean role. Clinton and Obama keep knocking one another down, and Edwards gets to swoop in.

You've been pushing this line pretty hard are here lately, Petey, but I don't see it. Dean had a major lead in Dec., 2003, and Gephardt was a bit player. Obama has never been the Dean role. Maybe Clinton had that sort of frontrunner status a month ago. Neither one could be analogized to Gephardt at any point in the campaign.

More importantly, the nature and effect of the attacks has been completely different. Having supported and worked in Iowa for Dean, I recall the feeling of creeping dread as his numbers sank, hoping the clock would run out with him still in front. This time, Obama is surging directly in the face of Clinton's attacks. Enthusiasm in the Obama camp has never been greater. If anything, attacks like this one and kindergartengate are helping fuel his push to the finish line. And he hasn't had any need to go negative or get off message in response either. I know it's axiomatic that when the two top candidates get into a pissing match it's number three who profits, but that's just not happening here. All we're seeing is Clinton jumping off a cliff (and thank goodness for that).

I love how negative Hillary's people feel like they have to go. It is really desparation time now. As someone who has been around politics my whole life, this was no accident-using her surrogates to do her dirty work. He is a senior advisor for pete sake, again no accident. Did he eat paste when he was 5 also? We really need to know don't we? Face it, Obama is much more likeable and will have significant cross-over appeal, while "Slick Hilly" will only polarize the election.

Thanks NH DEM:

George W. Bush + Karl Rove IS TO John McCain + Had illegitimate baby with black prostitute

AS

Hillary Clinton + Bill Shaheen IS TO Barack Obama + Sold and used cocaine until last Thursday

Go Hillary! Specifically, go away. Far, far away


still laughing an hour later. You made my day.

I would like to know if Obama was doing the powdery stuff, or whether it was crack. It could make the ugly truth more palatable if he just says it was "cocaine." As everyone knows, that is a general category. It's non-specific. I think that with the image we all have of crack cocaine users in this country, perhaps Obama could lend more details. This would likely be important to a few voters. *Crack-heads for President!

I don't understand why Democrats are trying to sweep Obama's cocaine use under the rug. This is obviously going to be a big deal to Republicans and Independents. I want to know if he snorted or smoked it. I want to know how many times. I want to know how he paid for it. Did he deal it? Did he get others to try it?

I know people say Bush did it too. But he never admitted it nor did any credible person come forward who said they sold it to him or saw him do it.

I cannot vote for someone who was a cokehead. Period.

Shaheen needs a catscan and yes, he's an idiot. But Obama shouldn't think of it as a gift.

By using Shaheen's stupidity to score points on Clinton, Obama folds a 'drug use and recovery' subtheme into his 'message of hope'. It's one thing to have used drugs in the past - who cares? It's something else to become an icon of substance use and recovery--especially when you are running as a symbolic candidate.

How do parents combat the "He did cocaine and he's the President" symbolism? With lectures about the dangers of drugs? We know how far lectures get with kids. Ever tried to teach a kid the value of an education, only to hear "Bill Gates dropped out of college and he's the richest man in the world."

"The President survived drugs and so can you" is an inspiring message to struggling addicts. But how does it play in the mind of a teenager? How do you keep your kid from sniffing that first line of coke when POTUS is a living symbol that coke won't destroy his life?

I'm all in favor of hope for struggling addicts. But we can't invest substance use and recovery with the symbolic power of POTUS.