Marc Ambinder (December 18, 2007) - Huckabee's "Army" Plans A Major Fundraiser

Love the "Let's Roll" at the end of the letter. Deliberate allusion to the heroes who brought down United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania instead of letting it be sent into the White House or Capitol?
Just a coincidence?

The next fundraising letter will probably equate "Huck's Army" with the soldiers and Marines currently serving in Iraq, you know, since it's all about defeating "Islamofascism".

Posted by tinisoli | December 18, 2007 3:33 PM

Can't the Huck Army do something original? Why copy from Ron Paul? Instead of copying Ron Paul, why not join Ron Paul? he is a Christian, he is much better organized, her is better funded, and he doesn't have all the baggage Huckster has.

RON PAUL 2008!

Posted by Brian | December 18, 2007 3:39 PM

Huckabee I wish you would quit with the holier than thou attitude and your upside down cross commercial was a discrace to christians everywhere. If you want to be known as the true christian candidate you have to practice the word of the bible.

Posted by Jared | December 18, 2007 3:41 PM

Brett Harris showed a lot of class when he personally congratulated us Ron Paul supporters on our $6 million day.

However, this copying of Dr. Paul is a little annoying:

1. Money-bomb idea.
2. Christmas video-card idea.
3. Eliminating the IRS.
4. Trying to be the "outsider" candidate.

I'm sure others can add to this.

Posted by J.P. | December 18, 2007 3:41 PM

I smell a recipe for disaster, but as a Ron Paul supporter I welcome it. Its a direct comparison in an easily measurable field.

The question becomes what does it mean? If he raises 500,000 or $1,000,000 does that prove how little real support he has?

If he actually comes close or surpasses $6,000,000 what does it mean?

Also the statistics would be interesting. 57,000 donors is a LOT of donors. If he gets 5700 BIG donors what does that say?

Posted by Nathan | December 18, 2007 3:45 PM

I would suggest we contact some other TV evangelists to assist us in our fund raising endeavors.

You should make sure you tell everyone to pray real hard too. Fund raising and prayer go hand in hand - well just like governing and prayer go hand in hand.

Be sure to tell the homosexuals not to send us any of their money or we will have to send it back to them- (of course we will not touch it ).

I had someone ask me the other day since I am a Christian and I support Huckabee - how do I rationalize us going over and killing innocent Iraqis with our big bombs and military? The person told me he did not think Jesus would support invading a country and killing its citizens if they did nothing to us - he thought it was an unjust war and Jesus would not be in favor of it.

I told him this was an Old Testament war and that he was just unpatriotic !!!

Posted by truthseeker | December 18, 2007 3:45 PM

Let's have a Ron Paul money bomb the day before!

Posted by Bjorn | December 18, 2007 3:46 PM

To all you Huckabee supporters: Why vote for a liar?

http://dhgrassrevolt.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/huckabee-lied-about-theology-degree/

He lied about having a Theology Degree!! I would think this is very important since he's been skating around showing how big a "man of God" he is. Don't you think men of the cloth should lie about their education in religion? He attacked Romney on his beliefs! How Christian is that?! Since when do Christians attack others for what they believe in? Would Jesus do that? I don't think so!

I understand he's a pretty tempting guy because his campaign is so faith-based. But that's why you shouldn't vote for him, because he's trying to make his run religious and not of the more important issues out there. Faith is faith, but religion shouldn't be in politics. Period.

Posted by Becky | December 18, 2007 3:47 PM

Has Huck returned Ron Paul's red sweater? Too bad his ripoff campaign is really just Bush III. Get ready for a draft.

Posted by Abe Lincoln | December 18, 2007 3:48 PM

MONEY-BOMBS FOR DUMMIES
-----------------------

Step 1. Choose a catchy day that celebrates a day or embodies a theme.

Step 2. Make sure you have established a HUGE online following.

Step 3. Make sure your candidate inspires people.

Step 4. Make sure your candidate will actually change Washington. Remember, we've already had a folksy Christian southern governor who loves big government and has no foreign policy experience, thereby insuring that his administration will be infiltrated by ex-communist neo-conservatives who will drive us into perpetual war that will cost the lives of thousands and drive the value of the dollar into the toilet so that the middle class will find it increasingly difficult to keep up with the cost of inflation.

That'll be $9.95 please.

Posted by Pedro | December 18, 2007 3:49 PM

Just stopped by the site. I like the open letter to Ron Paul supporters implying that people have been openly damaging his effort (unlike what I hear what happened to the RonPaulBlimp campaign. That was totally innocent hijinks)

First, I would love to see this huge list of 'obviously fake email addresses referencing perverse sex acts, insulting Mike Huckabee,'. Probably some creative stuff in there.

But like when I ask my Boss on that 'huge list of client features that people are demanding', it will probably be one oddball item that has been generalized into this huge rampant problem.

Posted by Nathan | December 18, 2007 3:52 PM

They tried it on Nov 20 also, and it failed.

http://paul4prez.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-paul-supporters-out-blast-huckabee.html

Obama tried it too - pulled in under $5,000, but I don't have the URL.

Posted by b.w | December 18, 2007 3:57 PM

I loved Dr Paul's use of this quote:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be cloaked in a flag and carrying a cross." -Sinclair Lewis

in commenting on the Huckster's tv commercial.

Posted by Ron | December 18, 2007 3:58 PM

Hack-abee will fail again.

Posted by Ron is the man | December 18, 2007 4:06 PM

I don't trust Huckabee at all.

Hused public funds for personal reasons, he helped let out a convicted rapist that raped and murdered after his release, he increased spending, he increased taxes, he lied about his theology degree, and on and on.

I am astounded by the people that put any faith in the man. Anybody that does any real research will find that Huckabee is nothing more than another politician, saying anything to grab votes.

Posted by B Reyes | December 18, 2007 4:15 PM

Mike, by the way, the idea is to have your supporters run the money-bomb. When you endorse it and talk about it on your website then it comes under the scrutiny of the Federal Election Rules. It also takes away from the idea that your supporters are so dedicated when you have to tell them to be a part of it.

Posted by Tom | December 18, 2007 4:17 PM

This pretty much says it all...

Lives & sacred honor pledged for freedom: 273
Fortunes pledged for freedom: $156794

"Lives and sacred honor pledged"?? Is this like signing up for the military? And the goal is a mere $1 million? I predict they won't even get half of that.

Laughable and pathetic in pretty much every possible way......

Posted by Stephen V Funk | December 18, 2007 4:17 PM

HA! Good luck! We should have another Ron Paul money-bomb day on the 27th as well, and we'll destroy Huckabee yet again... only to be ignored by the MSM

Posted by GreenGuy | December 18, 2007 4:18 PM

Already $158,800 pledged for the Huckster.

It took Ron Paul about 51 minutes to collect that amount on the 16th.

And an average donation size of over $500. vs. Ron Paul's average of just over $100.

Nice start, but for an equal amount of donations Ron Paul will get nearly 5x the votes.

I've gotta wonder how the other candidates feel knowing Ron Paul has over 200,000 donors in just the 4th quarter alone.

But it's not like that sort of stuff is news-worthy or anything.

Don't look back, Ron Paul is gaining on you, if he's not already ahead where it counts.

Posted by Dave A | December 18, 2007 4:27 PM

This is pathetic. Huckabee is only hoping to ride the creative coattails of Ron Paul's supporters. The Ron Paul campaign doesn't even need to endorse or push the idea of his "money bombs."

The fight for the top spot is heating up...

http://truthalert.net/Republican%20Presidential%20Candidate%20Rankings.htm

Posted by Mike | December 18, 2007 4:37 PM

The goal of this fundraiser is only $1,000,000. this is not to try and compete with the $6.6 million ron paul raised in one day. I know that the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters are not spewing the hatred and venom that can be found in alot of these posts, but the ugly vocal few really sour the majority of the peoples views of your movement and candidate.

Posted by dan h | December 18, 2007 4:44 PM

I think it would behoove the Ron Paul supporters to hold a money bomb on the same day in the spirit of Free Market Economics and fair competition.

I would like that very much.

Go Ron Paul!

Posted by Nathan Warren | December 18, 2007 4:49 PM

Thank you RP supporters for once again showing your true face. Is that what freedom means to you? Criticizing, name calling, and demonizing other candidates and their supporters? One need only buzz through the RP forums to find countless references to spamming other sites, creating fake “look alike” sites, curse words that would make your mother wash your mouth out with soap, etc.
RP does have a lot of baggage…his supporters. They have forgotten that in order to win a Republican primary, they actually need Republican votes. For every person who joins your tent, another Republican leaves out the back. You’re tactics and personality turn potential supporters away.
RP does not have a copy write on “money bombs”. They say imitation is the highest form of flattery. So some Huckabee supporters are copying something that worked. Would you rather us copy things that don’t work? Would that make you happy? Oh look! I heard that RP is running a radio ad. Copycat! Someone else did that before!
Ridiculous.
Finally, RP may have some decent ideas (the ones that don’t lead to an Islamic takeover of the west) but he is such an ineffective leader who doesn’t know how to work the system that none of his ideas would ever be implemented. The system certainly needs to be changed, but you have to know how to work it to change it. You can’t just be some outside “against everything” force and hope to get anything done. RP was the student who got the “doesn’t play well with others” remark on his report card. I guess his supporters are learning from the best.
Please come back with a libertarian leaning candidate that can actually communicate a message in terms that the masses support and understand. Then maybe you’ll have my support.
In the meantime, GO MIKE GO!!! And count me in on December 27th!!

Posted by Christian | December 18, 2007 4:51 PM

Another Money Bomb the day before? Yes we should!
On the Feast of Stephen, as the song goes, we can promote the idea of individual charity, something we all believe would become more rampant if we could keep all the fruits of our labour and return the government to its Constitutional role (yeah Ron Paul).

What about people not only pledging to give to Ron Paul, but also to a charity of their choice?

Posted by Sean Kennedy | December 18, 2007 5:01 PM

A great opportunity for the Huckabee campaign! He may not have the anti-semite, neonazi, white supremacist, anarchist, 9/11 troofer, ufo conspiracy donations pouring in, like the Ron Paul/Alex Jones campaign does, but he's not consistently hovering at 5% polls either!

Looks like RP supporters are out, doing what they do best, yet again.

Has Ron Paul returned Don Black's donation? Probably not, huh?

Posted by Ron Who? | December 18, 2007 5:28 PM

Hey, If you want to try and raise money for your candidate the way Ron Paul has...Give it a go. If you want to try to smear us with your neo-nazi, anarchist, etc. etc. labels, try again, we have already been there. We are for Ron Paul for his message and consistency. Huckabee does not even come close to Ron Paul...never has, never will. I can criticize your candidate without name calling, all I need to do is look up his record and positions.

Posted by Charles | December 18, 2007 5:47 PM

So many false accusations. So little time to respond. Don't be deceived by the slow, intended trickle of false attacks against Gov. Huckabee.

Ron Paul supporters who are making fun of those of us who support Gov. Huckabee - You are like the team who offensively taunts the opposition, after sacking their quarterback and then are told by the offense to look at the scoreboard where the score is currently 51-3 with 5 minutes left to play. Huckabee's team is winning at the moment and you just can't stand it. Go ahead and raise all the money you want to. Sure, you'll get some support. Heck, Gore and Kerry got a lot! But, you can't change the fact that your candidate wants to get rid of the FBI and the CIA. That kind of lack of common sense is what can ruin a decent nation, if it were to ever win a Presidential election. Why doesn't Dr. Paul lead off telling about that part of his beliefs all the time? If you want to get behind a candidate that is like Ronald Reagan, listen to Ed Rollins, who knew and advised Ronald Reagan. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316853,00.html

To any who scoff at us Huckabee supporters, just remember what happened to those who scoffed and laughed at Noah and his family, while they built the ark.

Posted by Patrick | December 18, 2007 6:17 PM

To all you Ron Paul self-congratulators, remember one thing. It doesn't matter how much money you raised if you don't have a campaign to spend it on. Will you ask for it back when he drops out? For all your supposed money raising, we have yet to see anything being done with it other than maybe outting into the website. The dems are raisiong even more $ than Paul and they are showing nothing for it either. It comes down to the mesaage and how you connect w/ people, and Paul is simply not doing either very well. You can point to your fundraising and rallies and the "internet ", but it's not translating into real numbers. Nice job for such a "first tier" candidate. Wonder how much support you all would be getting/giving if his position on iraq was different. Me thinks you all are wasting your money. Sure Huckabee isn't raising anywhere near the $ Paul is, but he's sure getting more play with what he has. That's what has you people in such an uproar. Goes to show you it takes more than money.

Posted by Victor | December 18, 2007 6:18 PM

I am very pleased with the work Mike is doing on my behalf to promote the cause of evil and bring America to her knees. Soon all shall know the power of the dark side.

Posted by Prince of Darkness | December 18, 2007 6:24 PM

HucksArmy and many of the other grassroots supporters of Huckabee are homeschoolers. Sadly, Huckabee added restrictions to homeschool laws in Arkansas. And passed education reforms known as "P-16" which will extremely detrimental to homeschoolers in the long term. Huckabee likes to say that he is for the rights of the parents to educate their children, but his legislative agenda speaks of something entirely different. Mike Huckabee wants to INCREASE the federal role of education in our country. That is NOT good news for homeschoolers.

I have written about it all on my blog,

www.spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com

Before homeschoolers send in a buck, they might want to take a look.

Posted by spunky | December 18, 2007 6:53 PM

My, my my. So much criticism. What money can't buy us - Hard work and Honor will.

Posted by PJ | December 18, 2007 7:05 PM

I will be donating on December 27th..........to Ron Paul.

Posted by InItToWinIt | December 18, 2007 7:05 PM

Merry Christmas to you all.

Posted by PJ | December 18, 2007 7:07 PM

Michael Farris of the HSLDA stands behind Mike and his past performence with his full endorsement. Gov. Mike Huckabee is also the only Governor to have ever appointed a Homeschool Mom to the State Board of Education.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-q0h1cb6xE

Don't join the crowd that lambast a good man with false accusations. Stand up for the truth. Support Gov. Mike Huckabee for President 2008.

Posted by Patrick | December 18, 2007 7:19 PM

Amen, Patrick.

Mike Huckabee has a strong and consistent record of intervening on behalf of homeschoolers and protecting them from hostile legislation.

You can read all about his record here:

http://www.hucksarmy.com/downloads/huckabee_homeschool_record.pdf

Posted by Joe | December 18, 2007 7:32 PM

Yes, the endorsement is indeed perplexing given Huckabee signed the law that HSLDA and Michael Farris OPPOSED. He could have vetoed the legislation, he could have stood on principle and left it unsigned, but he did neither. He signed the bill that forced parents to wait 14 days to pull their child out of a government school. As HSLDA said this is a clear violation of the 14th amendment because parents who take their children out to put them in private schools did not have to wait to take them out of the public school.

The reason for this measure was because Huckabee passed education reforms in 1998 that ushered in the P-16 education reform for a seamless transition from school-to-work. Huckabee also worked on the comission for "reinventing high school" which will create a credentialing system/tracking system from high school to the workforce.

If homeschoolers believe that Huckabee has protected them from "hostile" legislation they are sadly mistaken. Because it was his 1998 legislation that was the catalyst for the 1999 restrictions in homeschool law. That's not my words but Huckabee told that to blogger One Mom himself,

"With the implementation and success of the Smart Start program some legislators wanted to reverse what we had done for homeschoolers in 1997 and put in place very severe restrictions."

There is more to this story than Huck supporters are being told by the Huckabee campaign. P-16 legislation is NOT a step forward for home educators and will create major problems when the generation that voted for Mike Huckabee attempts to homeschool their own children.

Mike Huckabee is a good man. But his record on homeschooling is not good. This is not a personal attack, but an honest evaluation of his record.

Posted by Spunky | December 18, 2007 7:47 PM

Further,in an interview with Michael Farris, he was asked about international influence and Mike Huckabee said,

Governor Huckabee:
"It really is of great concern that there are people who believe that the United States should subject itself to treaties in which some international government or international government organization would dictate how a parent raises his or her child, including the disciplining of a child. If we were to adopt the policies of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, we essentially have done something that I personally think is not only unconstitutional but I think is unconscionable. That is, we have sacrificed the rights of mothers and fathers in this country to some international entity that is simply unacceptable and it is of utmost concern to me."

What's sad to me is that Mike Huckabee already allowed an international government organization to dictate the education of school children in Arkansas through the International Baccalaureate Organization based in Geneva, Switzerland and affliated with UNESCO. (Note: Geneva is not in the US.) This curriclum is based on teaching children to be "global citizens" based on a globalist view that all views are tolerated at the expense of national and individual sovereignty. It is based on the Theory of Knowledge. So Governor Huckabee has already allowed international influence upon our children.

Michael Farris's endorsement was based in large part on the UN Rights of the Child. But as we can see by Huckabee' record just doesn't match his rhetoric. If Huckabee couldn't keep the UN out of Arkansas schools, what makes anyone think he'll do any better as President?

Posted by Spunky | December 18, 2007 8:01 PM

This AGAIN????

The November 20th HuckaBomb was three weeks in the making. At around 1PM EST 11-20, Dr. Paul's supporters got wind of it and started in high gear by 2PM. By 7 PM EST we had passed the HuckaBomb going away all the way to midnight.

Three weeks of planning wiped out in 6 hours on spur-of-the-moment word-of-mouth.

The HuckaBomb was a HuckaDud.

And that was only $250K.

At Sunday's Tea Party, Dr. Paul's supporters raised $6.4M online and offline. That's 25X the HuckaDud.

Those are cold hard FACTS.

If Hucakbee thinks he can have a 25X increase in fundraising over the last time, he's been inhaling the smoke that a previous Hope Arkansas Governor didn't!

Naturally, Dr. Paul's supporters already have wind of this, so Nov 20th will just repeat itself, proving once again that the Huckster has no real support outside of the media steroids of late. It will be another Dud.

Posted by Tannim | December 18, 2007 8:15 PM

It's about time Huckabee started getting serious about raising cash. He'll need it for any sort of fight with Romney or Giuliani in the final days before Iowa or New Hampshire.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by matt | December 18, 2007 8:25 PM

This is really telling of Huckabee supporters:

Thank you RP supporters for once again showing your true face. Is that what freedom means to you? Criticizing, name calling, and demonizing other candidates and their supporters? One need only buzz through the RP forums to find countless references to spamming other sites, creating fake “look alike” sites, curse words that would make your mother wash your mouth out with soap, etc.

And then a few posts down...

A great opportunity for the Huckabee campaign! He may not have the anti-semite, neonazi, white supremacist, anarchist, 9/11 troofer, ufo conspiracy donations pouring in, like the Ron Paul/Alex Jones campaign does, but he's not consistently hovering at 5% polls either!

Real great way for Huckabee supporters to look better than the people they accuse of being kooks. Yup.

I'll take 'Decorum 101' for $1,000, Alex.

Posted by Jackson Maxim | December 18, 2007 8:28 PM

Go buy another blimp, or fifty. Money well spent, you should be ashamed to support a campaign that bought a (cough) blimp.

Posted by Josh C. | December 18, 2007 9:27 PM

I am a Ron Paul supporter but, as one insurgent campaign to another, I wish Huck's Army the best of luck in their fundraiser. This is grassroots politics at its best! The Paul and Huckabee campaigns should be the norm not the exception.

Posted by Darren Greway | December 18, 2007 9:35 PM

Considering there are only about 5 bible belt states where Huckabee can even finish in the top 3, more power to him. He is only taking votes away from the other neo con pro war candidates like McCain and Romney. He's not taking any votes away from Ron Paul. In fact, the more Huckster and McCain and Romney cut each other down, the better it is for Ron Paul.

Posted by Chuck Norris | December 18, 2007 9:35 PM

Perhaps The "Huckabee Army" can get longtime Clinton backers Stephens Inc. and Tyson Foods to give his campaign yet more money.

Maybe then they can also explain why Democratic activists would support a fatally flawed candidate to spearhead the Republican attempt to keep The White House... as if such an explanation would be needed.

Posted by Gary S. | December 18, 2007 9:37 PM

FACTS:
Ron Paul has won more Straw Polls nationwide than ANY other candidate.

Ron Paul has won more online polls than ANY other candidate.

Ron Paul has won more Mainstream Media txt message polls than ANY other candidate.

Ron Paul has garnered more donations than ANY other GOP candidate.

Ron Paul has gotten more money from the troops over there fighting the evil terrorist islamofascists than ANY other candidate. Perhaps you should listen to the troops instead of someone with the sordid history that Huckabee has.

Ron Paul gets more web traffic and google searches for him than ANY other candidate.

Ron Paul is THE front runner....and he's doing it without the fake boosts from the main stream media that the likes of Huckabee receive. Huckabee is almost flat broke...so how the surge eh? Feeding the 5000 with 2 fish and a loaf of bread eh? Give me a break. I wish you all the best in your future endeavors copying Ron Paul's grassroots style moneybombs because the Huckabomb is going to be one big Huckadud.....just like the candidate himself.

Huck is just like his supporters....copying Ron Paul's stance on the war to a degree....blasting bush foreign policy....while just a few months ago, before everyone realized Ron Paul is tapping into the 77% of the population that is AGAINST the war and sick of neo-conservatism (which huck happens to be) Huck was all about some let's kill Islam. So don't even get me started. Huckabee's past record of wrong doing is so obvious and free for anyone with 2 braincells and google to find out that it's a joke you are even part of his campaign....i guess you LIKE having a person that has 5 ethics violations from his own ethics committee on his record....you like a guy that has all the hard drives in his office destroyed as he leaves office....you like a guy that fired a police officer that failed to protect his son from being charged with hanging and slashing up a dog with his buddies at boyscout camp.....you like a guy that steals the frigging furniture from his office as he makes his exit. Man, there are a TON more things Huckabee has done but this list should be enough to make anyone go uhhhhhh sorry Huckabee...you just aren't the one for me. If not, go spend some time and RESEARCH the candidates. All of them.

Besides, a vote for Huckabee is a wasted vote. He stands absolutely no chance against the likes of Obama or Clinton. There IS a reason he's called GlassJaw Huck all over the internet ya know.

Posted by neoconned08 | December 18, 2007 9:45 PM

Go buy another blimp, or fifty. Money well spent, you should be ashamed to support a campaign that bought a (cough) blimp.

If you actually did any reading about it, you'd find it was funded purely by grassroots supports. The campaign had nothing to do with it, and it's quite telling by your uninformed snark that you have a shallow understanding of the Ron Paul campaign on the whole.

I'm on the fence about supporting him, but it would seem that with all these attacks he's actually looking like someone the establishment supporters fear and that's an especially good sign should he go up against the Democrats in the General.

Posted by Jackson Maxim | December 18, 2007 10:03 PM

Chameleon = Huckabee. Come way up with something halfway original.

Posted by RG | December 18, 2007 10:14 PM

"Go buy another blimp, or fifty. Money well spent, you should be ashamed to support a campaign that bought a (cough) blimp."

Sorry but the campaign DIDN'T buy the blimp, the supporters did...I don't think any other candidate has the amount of supporters who can BUY A BLIMP! Josh C. you should get your facts straight before you start to criticize. Good luck in your fundraiser...and we shall see who the stronger candidate is Dec 28th

GO RON PAUL GO!

Posted by Eric | December 18, 2007 10:21 PM

I pledged $2300 to the TV preacher on the site....
Send my reminder to Osama@Alkada.com I will be sure to send him $2300 (in pubes......)

I'll give him the pubes, then vote for someone else then ask for the pubes back after Huck don't need em anymore, then I can send the pubes to Rudy for his wig. Chuck Norris could glue some of the pubes to his ass so he can get some balls and fight Bruce Lee's son.

Good luck Huck! You are going to need it!
Vote Fred Thompson

Our "Fred's Giving" Money Bomb was a dud too just like Fred. Send your pubes to Fred Thompson he is the tallest guy in the race. He needs pubes now please hurry Iowa is only 18 days away.....

Posted by libertynow | December 18, 2007 11:21 PM

Haaaa Haaa Haa LOL
Give the country a break.
Huckabee is a joke.

He is Geoerge Bush's shadow.
The media, lobbyists and big corporations are fictionally forcing his numbers up. The reasons are that McCain,Thompson, Mitt and Rudy all have their obvious flaws and will go down in flames. Therefore the people in charge have to back someone else.
Ron Paul is a threat to the whole corrupt system.

I think Ron said it best with Huckabee. He is absolutely correct.

Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'...

Posted by Matt Sid | December 18, 2007 11:38 PM

I cant blame any of you Huckabee supporters for your ignorance. You just haven't seen the light yet.

Check out this website below. It may ease your suffering and frustration.

www.ronpaul2008.com

Posted by Onyx | December 18, 2007 11:56 PM

Ha Ha, Let's Roll!! I wish you guys the best but Ron Paul's Army cannot be topped and you're gonna be embarassed at your meager turnout for your "Bomb" or ummm whatever.

Sincerely,
www.RonPaul2008.com
Donny T.

Posted by DonnyT. | December 19, 2007 1:18 AM

TO: RON PAUL SUPPORTERS POSTING THESE VITRIOLIC COMMENTS

First congratulations on an excellent fundraiser the other day....Impressive numbers (but please be advised that your credit card payment will be due in early January, shortly after the Iowa Caucus) Feel free to raise 10 billion for your candidate, but unfortunately your tactics have not garnered enough votes to even be listed as a potentially realistic candidate anywhere (Unless RP's other name is 'other').

It's not about the total dollars, it's about the total votes. And on that front you have alot to do that your internet bots aren't capable of.

This particular fundraiser is about a man who without the funds has come from your candidate's current level of support to a frontrunner. And we have chosen, not as part of his campaign, but as a grassroots effort, to raise these monies on his behalf... and if you need a reason for the date I don't know, but it is the day before my birthday, and all I want for my birthday is a President-Elect Mike Huckabee by my next birthday! (and this site didn't even know I was a Huckabee supporter, ain't that 'special')

That was a bit long winded and silly, but since you are Libertaians (best defined as 'a Republican that smokes way too much pot') you probably didn't notice.

Ron Paul didn't become a Congressman by allowing his supporters to mindlessly bash his opponents - he did it by stating his platform. I suggest you RP-ers support him, and not spam, attack, or degrade in an attempt to denigrate the other candidates.

FINAL NOTE: TO HUCKABEE SUPPORTERS

Keep the faith- we knew that when Mike gained in popularity and 'got noticed' by the media he would be attacked. But, seriously think about the attacks levied to date, if this is the best they can find in all the dumpster diving that has been done it means WE have chosen an honorable man to support a nation of honorable people...

God Bless and Merry Christmas to all!!!

Posted by Warren Searle | December 19, 2007 1:42 AM

Maybe I'll donate $9.11 like I did for Giuliani. LOL

RonPaul2008.com

Posted by Tofu | December 19, 2007 3:47 AM

Huckabee supports...time to be serious. Why are there hardly any Meetup group numbers or donations compared to the Ron Paul campaign? Huckabee has been front page news for over a month now...where is the grassroots numbers to back it up? Any theories out there?

Posted by Gene | December 19, 2007 6:52 AM

its bad enough that mike huckabee channels ron paul,now he is channeling a tv evangilist.....not what i want in a president, his comments about drinking jesus juice while letting illegal aliens invade our country and then giving them free education tells me he is unfit for office. jesus juice?? oh yeah, i guess he is channeling michael jackson too..isnt that what he told his victims was in the soda cans?? give me a break!

Posted by Traci | December 19, 2007 8:01 AM

truthseeker - I had someone ask me the other day since I am a Christian and I support Huckabee - how do I rationalize us going over and killing innocent Iraqis with our big bombs and military?

One of the lamest moral ethics notions modern Christians came up with was the "civilians innocent, soldiers guilty" construct.

It assumes that populations that support war or fight collectively against a threat can be fractionated out into the precious civilians, whose lives are innocent and supremely valuable - and their best young men. Soldiers who accept the danger of call to arms - who are somehow automatically guilty and whose lives are discardable without regret as infinitely less value than their civilian counterparts.

The person told me he did not think Jesus would support invading a country and killing its citizens if they did nothing to us - he thought it was an unjust war and Jesus would not be in favor of it.

Which is another silly construct that Jewish lawyers and "righteous Christians" came up with after WWII, framed solely around the Nazi example and ignoring all history before or since.

That you could ethically war only if attacked, and then you had to be compassionate with the enemy and not crush or eradicate them, treat their "precious civilians" better than your own soldiers, and of course rebuild.
Then of course they added the "duty" to intervene to stop "genocide" or "really bad people" - forces that don't fit under the 1st Christian "good war" or Jewish lawyer "rule of international law" principles. (Mostly this consists of Euro Christians talking to empty churches about it and then once the Jewish-designed international laws blocking any action on places like Burma, Rwanda, Darfur stifle action, the "voices of conscience" stand off and say "Well, we tried! And our criticism is just as morally good and pure as if we actually had intervened. And the Jewish human rights lawyers then talk about "trials in the ICC when the slaughter finally ends" to show their beloved laws are effective after all.

I told him this was an Old Testament war and that he was just unpatriotic !!!Posted by truthseeker

Truthseeker sarcasm aside, if this was an Old Testament War fought as the Hebrews fought, it would have been completely over in 2003 as the last Iraqi male over age 12 was hunted down and dispatched, and the rest sold off as slaves or kept by US GIs as concubines or adoptive kids. And like the Conquering Hebrews did with the Canaanites, Moabites, Philistines - all lands and resources would have been divvied up by US, Brit troops and the taxpayers that supported them. We may have left the Kurds alone to have them as auxilliaries as the Hebrews did with peripheral tribes like Samaritans, for future ventures.

Of course, the Hebrew method was not the worst in history.

1. Muslims would have conquered the same way, slaughtered, but then imposed enternal 2nd class citizenship on the conquered in the form of Dhimmitude.
2. Nazis would have not spared women and children to slavery.
3. Communists would have used death lists and state terror to rule and have stamped out religion.
4. Mongols would just kill every Iraqi in their way and loved doing it.
5. Han Chinese typically conquered in semi-brutal fashion, but then showed up on Thai, Korean, Vietnamese, Hakka, Tibetan lands with millions of Han settlers to make the original inhabitants an minority and eradicate their culture unless the disposessed were smart enough to kill other people and move away from the Borgian Han Collective.

All in all, if you have to lose a war, best you do it to Americans.

Posted by Chris Ford | December 19, 2007 8:17 AM

all this rhetoric is follishnes and an intent denial to dismiss truth. The Demo-wacks have had control over congress for 2 years now and have done NOTHING but fund pork barrel projects and have not come close to making any kind of real progress that the promised their poor demo-wack supporters. There credibility is SHOT! and as for Huckabee... People fear that he will win, which he is... At this point I will vote for anybody other than a Demowack. i am so frustrated that I have changed party position and will vote Repub this year.

christmas is the celebration of the birth of jesus christ and if anyone do not want to celebrate it then don't but remember, each time you give a gift to someone else, you are mimicking the 3 wise men that gave gifts to jesus at his birth and most importantly, you are mimicking the giving factor that God gave his only begotten son to the world. So whether you formally ccelebrate or deny it, each gift given is a reflection of God Giving Christ to the earth as a gift. and i am happy to have received a merry christmas wish from a governmental official.. which that does not happen at all now a days! I am so proud of Huckabee i do not know what to do. He is a man of principle and he surely just sealed the deal with my vote. He will win and big he will, and while the pundits try to demise him, or his other political rivals try to make him look bad. They may want to look at the mirror at themselves. You got flip flopping mitt, dead fred, pimped out guiliani , no brain mccain, and PAUL IS DEAD!

And as for the Dems: you got Hell-ary that have sold her soul to the left party lobbyist in america, and you got chronic smoking Obama? which neither one has ANY experience in foreign policy. If it was not for Hell-ary having bill clinton last name, she would not even be known.

Huckabee is the sure winner and will win big. I can not wait for romney to get out of the race. i bet he will go back to hiring illegals to work in his yard. check more out about him at www.massresistance.org he is the biggest flake since kellogs!

More on Romney’s Leadership check out these links:
www.massresistance.org and http://rightsmart.blogspot.com/

Posted by sha | December 19, 2007 9:44 AM

To neoconned and others who have drunk the kool-aid:

All your "facts" about how popular Paul is are ancillary and have no bearing on the race. None of the information you present is really translatable to the campaign-if it was Paul would already be picking out furniture for the White House The only poll that matters is the one the voters cast on election day (or in these cases primary days) Paul is not going to win any primary-hate to break it to you. Frontrunner? Please. Read a paper or watch the TV. PAUL IS NOT A FRONT-RUNNER. YOU ARE DELUDED IF YOU THINK HE IS.

Another issue is the money. I don't dispute the fact he has raised more money than Huck, but how are they coming up w/ the figures? are they "pledged" dollars? Actual dollars? Who's doing the fact checking? Who' issuing the numbers? I think it may be a bit inflated, especially if it's pledged. Those numbers never match reality. Another poster put it correctly too, in that I'm sure many people will realize it when the credit card comes due how they wasted their money-by that time Paul will be sooo out of the race.

Posted by Victor | December 19, 2007 11:35 AM

I pledge to donate $100 to Ron Paul on December 27th.

Posted by Brian | December 19, 2007 4:30 PM

Earth to Victor, your oxygen tank is empty and it's affecting your brain!

Read a newspaper or watch TV? Why on earth would we want to stick with the Old Media? Everybody knows they are biased, lazy, and intentionally spinning and censoring things for their own agenda, and to hell with the people. That's why the Huckster is inflated so much recently--media steroids. Dr. Paul is a frontrunner and nobody seems to want to admit that the straw polls, the fundraising, the blimp, the truck stop, the signs and rallies, all of it are actual on-the-ground, gonna-vote-for-him, passionate supporters. Haven't seen squat for that from the other candidates yet, and I doubt we will anytime soon. Prepare for bug surprises starting Jan 3.

As for Dr. Paul's figures, they are real cash, not pledges. If you had any idea how the Paul campaign is working and how his supporters are raising money you would know that and not make such a stupid and long-refuted allegation. But Dr. Paul is not out of the race anytime soon. Not until at least Labor Day with the floor fight in St. Paul, and even more likely not until November.

Posted by Tannim | December 19, 2007 7:35 PM

I want one of you Huckabee supporters actually try to describe to me what he has over Ron Paul?
Explain to me why Ron isn't acknowledged as clowns like Huckabee and Rudy are? Idn't Ron a republican? The fact is that Ron is a threat to the entire corrupt system.

Ron Paul speaks the truth and represents everything our Constitution states. Therefore he is untouchable. Rons beliefs are pure and to think otherwise just shows how the present society and government has done its job and corrupting your mind.

Huckabee is joke. The media and influence from big corportations controls the fictional numbers. None of the candidates have that big of a following as Ron and the media will do EVERYTHING in there power to not acknowledge him.

A FASCIST WILL BE DRAPPED IN A FLAG AND CARRYING A CROSS

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by Gorgon | December 20, 2007 1:38 AM

"HucksArmy" sounds like a good name for a Bad News Bears remake. It could feature a doofus coach.

Posted by Rudy | December 20, 2007 4:16 PM

Tannin and the other true believers:

Yoiu keep talking this "Big Lie" that Paul is a "front-tunner" and that he's "untouchable", "pure", etc. I was joking about drinking the kool-aid, but the posts here keep getting creepier and creepier. Paul a "threat" to the system? You can only be a threat when you have something to levrage(power) and he has none. Conspiracy by the "MSM"-yawn-heard it all before. Do you really expect the media to ever be on our side? How about fighting the enemy instead of your own party?

Only the reality of Paul losing every single primary will wake you people up to reality. Can't count how many people you lose when he starts talking about the CFR, TLC and other conspiracy nonsense. If that's what your movement is made up of, good luck. Why not call youselves the John Birch Party?

As to the fund raising and not knowing how it all works (as if you do? Are you there taking calls, counting money, making deposits, cooking the books? How would you know. More of the same "you just don't know" mentality-great way to win over others "tan". All the straw polls (of who? fellow Pauls supporters), and citations you can give to this phenomenon mean nothing until the votes are counted. That goes for any candidate. With all your supposed power and juice you guys have, take a real head count of people who are actually going to vote for him. You couldn't count more than a couple million heads nationwide. Real contenders and "front-runners " have millions more. You make such a big deal out of 5-6 million. Like I said, the dems are still way ahead of you guys. What happens when he drops out? Gonna run as a Lib again like '88, or don't you remember that far back?

To all Paul supporters. Try reading "the True Believer" by Eric Hoffer, an inbiased look at the history and theory of mass movements. You might learn something if you're not careful.

Posted by victor | December 20, 2007 5:53 PM

I am ready to live vicariously in the Army of Mike. Onward Christian soldiers....

Posted by GTM | December 20, 2007 10:04 PM

Sorry I wont read any Marxist literature. Since when has been following the Constitiont considered crazy?

And YES Ron Paul is a threat to the system. Its apparent that you have no understanding that economy is in a slump, the dollar is losing its value, inflatin is rising, the housing market is in the tank, outsourcing, open borders, an illegal War, etc..etc..etc.........

WHy even try to explain any of this to you?
For all you Huckabee supporters keep putting the faith in our media and government then.
First it was WMD in Iraq and then proof that Iran is no threat.
What next is the media going to claim that some guy named Huckabee, Mitt, Rudy, Thompson and Mccain are great potential leaders for this country?

You guys are all SHEEP. BAaaaaaa

Posted by Gorgon | December 20, 2007 10:05 PM

Copy and paste this in your address heading.
This states it all.
Both Ron Paul and Huckabee fans will love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKyZl_XYInU

Posted by Bob | December 20, 2007 11:15 PM

Gorgon (Can't be a real name):

Eric Hoffer a Marxist? You truly need to get a woman. Probably worn out your copy of "The Unseen Hand". Try reading real books by people who have credentials and lived lives. You can learn a lot about people. Who said anything about following the constitution (another off-track comment)? Maybe you and Paul are made for each other. Get out of your political bubble. Paul will drop out after Super Tuesday.

Posted by victor | December 21, 2007 1:08 AM

My two cents...Ron Paul must win or you mine as well vote for Hillary. Most Republicans and Democrats are the same in Congress and all will sell you out, and they have. 'Rome is burning' people.
Ron Paul is different in that he spreads a message of freedom that many Americans agree with. Maybe because he still believes in our founding principles, the Constitution, and 'We the People'. I never here Hucklebuck reference the Bill of Rights. As far as I am concerned he's another "Bushite" or "Bushbot" who's words are as relevant as a homosexual marriage. I am sick of false promises and outright lies. I hope Ron Paul shakes up the whole system. He is a true leader. "Get busy living, or get busy dying"
GS

Posted by Szydlowski | December 21, 2007 1:31 AM

Everyone. Victors a fag.
He has a copy of the unseen hand.

Hey did that mushroom shaped bruise on your forehead ever go away?

Posted by Gorgon | December 21, 2007 9:32 PM

Keep the faith- we knew that when Mike gained in popularity and 'got noticed' by the media he would be attacked.

Have you ever thought that the media got him noticed so they could attack him? Really smart there.

Huckabee supports...time to be serious. Why are there hardly any Meetup group numbers or donations compared to the Ron Paul campaign? Huckabee has been front page news for over a month now...where is the grassroots numbers to back it up? Any theories out there?

hardly any meet-up groups? because people don't believe strongly in his message, he doesn't have one.

Donations? See above.

The only real reason I can see people backing huckabee is if they just caught wind of him, and I'm being honest.

Posted by Jon | December 22, 2007 2:18 AM

I'm a pro-life conservative homeschooling evangelical Christian. How I'd love to find a Bible believer running for President who was actively pro-life, who LIVED his religion ultimately for all the world to judge him by, who was above all honest and integral, who never wavered, never sold out to the establishment for money or power, wasn't a member of the globalist CFR (one-world gov. group) who was pro constitution and who could ACTUALLY win.... what a dream...

Oh wait, I have found that.... in RON PAUL!
BTW.. he's the ONLY candidate in either party who isn't a member of the CFR. We need to pray for his safety.

Posted by Missi | December 22, 2007 2:31 AM

I can't tell you how much Huck offends me as a Christian and a patroit.

He won't need the money to make more waves in the campaign. He has CFR backing now, hence his surge in the "media polls". It's all good though because the real army, the Ron Paul army is nationwide, canvassing in every state hard. We're not in it for a few primaries. We're going all the way to the Whitehouse.

It baffles me to see people working for a man who has a track record of lying, doing his will vs. the people's, flip flopping on issues and stealing in public office. Why would people do that?

Posted by Angelo | December 22, 2007 2:37 AM

For any Huckabee supporter out there, please tell me what flaw Ron Paul has?
Explain to me how Huckabee has more integrity and honesty than Ron Paul?

I couldn't find any flaws in Ron Pauls beliefs. His message his true and powerful.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008

Posted by Bill | December 22, 2007 3:48 PM

Mike Huckabee is great - as Ron Paul's running mate once he renounces this trumped up "war on Islame-o-facism.

Meanwhile, the revolution is here. Join the cause for Ron Paul.

Posted by Fazsha | December 22, 2007 8:49 PM

Gorgon(sounds like a space alien/pod person-maybe you are): Is that how you Pod, I mean, Paul people take criticism? As for the mushroom bruise, don't know whay you're talking about, but did your swastika tatoo on your forehead get covered by the comb-over?

As for flaws, where do I start? Abolish the CIA and FBI? Are you insane? Why not all police? Why run as a stealth repulican when you're really a libertarian. Pull out of Iraq? Major flaw. Our views on Iraq may differ as to why we're there, but now that we are there, we have to see it through. Must be nice to live in a libertarian bubble on foreign policy, never deal with real world problems. He is naive on foreign policy.

I do believe he wants to de-regulate just about everything, if not abolish half the government. Tell, me how does a libertarian justify having some parts of the government but not others?

As for the CFR, TLC, and other conspiratorial nonsense, please. The funny thing is I used to believe a lot of that pap. Reality is the government can't conduct a "conspiracy" w/o about a few million or so accomplices. They can't even run the government right and you expect them to try and take over the world and lock up all "dissenters"? Wonder who you guys would lock up given the chance. Probably more of your own than your enemies. Extremists are like that. Stalin killed more communists than any war or enemy ever did.

Gorgon and the paul lemmings, who are you going to vote for once Paul's campaign is dead (super tuesday)? Going to go down with the ship all the way to november and write him in? Got to admire your pig-headedness. You'll be to blame for a dem getting in. Or was that your plan all along? Since you are such conspiracy nuts, how about the conspiracy that a lot of Paul supporters are secret lefties latching on to him because of his iraq stance? Yep all the same people who are former Dean supporters are getting behind Paul because a) they know he cant' win and b)he'll divert enough votes in any case to drain them from the real front-runner and allow a dem to take the white house? Sound silly? How could you call a conspiracy like this silly? You have enough conspiracy theories keeping you up at night to require serious medication, which I hope you are taking.

Posted by victor | December 24, 2007 12:00 PM

Its funny how scared the Huckabee supporters are. Ron Paul is for real and once the election starts you all will see how much support he really has. Ron Paul is about telling the truth and how AMERICA SHOULD be and use to be.

In 2008 vote for helping AMERICANS out not the rest of the world. Americans come first and Ron Paul is the only republican who wants to help America first over the rest of the world!

Posted by rory | December 25, 2007 12:04 PM

Victor

So I guess from what you say is that Paul supporters are skinheads, democrats, libertarians,democrats that are confused,communists and any other person that wants the war in Iraq to end?
You are obviously very confused.

First the war in Iraq is a hopeless cause. Why waste the money, personal and resources for a group of people that give two sh-ts about democracy. Are you still holding on that we might find WMD over there? Haaa haa Lol

You cant save face and let the quagmire go on. Some fights we have to accept the fact that we lost. (Hint-Vietnam) And please tell me why we should still be in Iraq then. I beg you? I havent heard one solid reason yet from anyone?

In means of Ron attracting votes from the democratic side. Well wouldnt any GOP candidate want that? And Front runner is a fictional word created from the media and corporations. They manipulate the numbers and falsely pump up the popularity of candidates to make it look like there is competition. Dont you realize yet that someone like Huckabee is Bush's shadow. We are not the policemen of the world.
Why do we have 85,000 soldiers in Germnay and another 50,000 in Japan?

I will accept your apology on Super Tuesday Victor.
If Ron Paul doesnt get in, then this country deserves everything it deserves.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008

Posted by Gorgon | December 27, 2007 9:14 PM

update: the huck bomb generated 95,000

hahahahahahahahaha!

Posted by Marta | December 28, 2007 6:46 AM

Gorge: I only agree we should pull troops out of europe. They have no reason to be there. Put them all in Iraq and it'd be over in a month. Wars happen and people have to fight them. sorry you are to afraid to have us fight, but...

What are you going to do when Paul goes o-for the primaries? Still haven't answered that...

Posted by victor | December 30, 2007 11:03 PM

Great post. Thanx for sharing.I really enjoy this blog.

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