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On Tom Tancredo

20 Dec 2007 09:45 am

He can argue, legitimately, that the one issue he set out to bring to the forefront of the debate has, through sheer force of the Republican base, traveled there.

Before Tancredo, the GOP presidential candidates didn't take the anti-immigration sentiment they heard on talk radio all that seriously.

After Tancredo, it sometimes seems as if it's the only they issue they do take seriously. They scramble to out-Tancredo each other; any hint of sympathy for the undocumented worker is now verboten. "Misplaced sympathy," is what Fred Thompson called it yesterday.

Tancredo -- and Tancredoites in Congress and millions of Americans -- have forced at least four candidates -- Huckabee and McCain are two -- to completely change the way they talk and think about immigration. Even Democrats call for border security first.

Tancredo gave voice to a burbling reservoir of anxiety and can fairly be said to have the most effect, policy-wise, of any presidential candidate. Politically, too, some Republicans believe that Tancredo-style immigration politics may have irreparably damaged the GOP's efforts to incorporate Hispanics into their coalition.

Tom Tancredo is an outsize figure in our politics.

Will he endorse? Unclear. If he does, the betting is on Thompson or Romney, although advisers to both men expect the other to get it, if it's gettable. Note that Bay Buchanan is a member of the LDS church and is said to be pushing Tancredo to endorse Romney as a way of repudiating Huckabee, somehow. We'll see.

Comments (19)

Don't you think you're giving Tancredo a bit too much credit? Obviously, he had some impact on the immigration discussion...but aren't you forgetting folks like Lou Dobbs, conservative talk show hosts and a few others in the press that have also been hammering away at the issue long before Tancredo made his way onto a debate stage?

"Undocumented workers"? Let's be bold: illegal aliens. I'm to the left of George Bush (the pre "I will build a wall" George Bush), but let's not be cute.

If Tancredo were to endorse Thompson or Romney then he'd lose all credability. It would make everything he said the last 10-11 months look like a lie. He called out Ron Paul yesterday for clarification of an article written about him on Lew Rockwell.com yesterday. Once the Ron Paul campaign assures him that the article is not accurate, Tancredo will have his press conference today announcing that he is dropping out of the race and is endorsing Ron Paul for President.

It makes perfect sense - they are good friends and Dr Paul is the only one using similar language about immigration.

The better immigration site has a good comparison of the candidates.

As a governor, Romney has the strongest record on illegal immigration. On the flip side he favors legal immigration. Consequently, Romney's plan is tough on illegals and fair on legal immigration, which is exactly where I like it.

Thompson has a mixed record on immigration. As a senator, he voted for amnesty and chain migration on some occasions. On legal immigration, one can only say Thompson's record has little resemblance to his new strict stance. As a result, Thompson's plan most resembles Tancredo's plan.

More of the same open border rhetoric rant. Leftist tend to forget that America has legal ports of entry
and that America being the most diverse nation in the world accepts more LEGAL immigrants than all other nations combined. But its more of the same anti-America spew and dribble that tags Americans as
racist if they don't allow their laws to be broken. There are consequences to an open border such as a destabilized society that can no longer support its people due to mass illegal migration. America's failing educational and health care systems are just the beginning to the end of what was known as the American dream.

To be fair, before Tancredo, Duncan Hunter was the one that braved all the "racist!" chants and got the only stretch in American Border fenced - along the Ysidro-Tijuana section. Which resulted in a 80% drop in illegals going through that part of Californian and a 50% drop in felony crime and theft.

Mitt Romney has a very good, common sense approach and besides being unelectable, Ron Paul has many supporters who are the original hardcore free trade, open markets, "No Borders to the cheapest labor migrating between countries" Libertarians.

Rudy and the Huckster cannot be trusted to stop the mass invasion.

Besides Romney, Thompson of the frontrunners appears reliable and committed to end the assault by the Ruling Elites on American worker's wages and jobs.

I have always thought "undocumented resident" was too cute by half, more asinine PC language devised by Jewish lawyers to excuse their clients in the criminal justice system who had no business being here and were fighting deportation - and then it actually became obligated language to describe illegal aliens in the media, the Democratic Party, and academia until Americans fought back.
Along with "guests of our country" and "The America's original people" dispossed of Alta Californian and "their" Texas.

We do not call a guy with a trunkful of pistols selling them an "undocumented gun dealer". We do not call a thug muggling people a "wealth transfer agent without permit". We call them illegal and crime-committers.

And we typically do not let children who benefit from illegal acts keep what their parents stole for them - be it a flat screen TV, an iPod they mugged on the street, or US citizenship based on a crime to enable their birth here and to reap all the fruits of free alien health care, welfare, WIC, public schools for illegal spawn. It's based on a dubious 14th Amendment claim of birthright citizenship - even for members of an invading army, straight illegals, people with scam marriages to get into the USA.

My concern is with Tom TanCredo out of the race, will the topic of illegal immigration also be forgotten? Lets hope not! We must continue to pressure the candidates on this subject. What ever happened to assimulation of immigrates? We cannot continue to absorb these illegal aliens. Build the physical fence from California to the Gulf of Mexico. Place monitoring devices along our southern border aand deploy military troops to patrol the southern border.

Bay Buchanan is LDS? When did that happen? What does Pat think about it?

It's based on a dubious 14th Amendment claim of birthright citizenship - even for members of an invading army, straight illegals, people with scam marriages to get into the USA.

There's nothing dubious about it to the courts. Don't like birthright citizenship? Amend the constitution.

This is a very curious issue because it is so salient among Republicans Iowa caucus goers and so not for Democratic caucus goers in Iowa (see the WPost's polls). The hardline expressed above and by most of the GOP candidates (enforcement, maintaining limited legality for future immigration, and getting the millions of illegal immigrants already here out) is going to be extremely difficult to pivot from when the primaries are over.

The hardline expressed above...is going to be extremely difficult to pivot from when the primaries are over.

Not to mention two or three election cycles down the road, as the percentage of the population that is brown continues to rise, and as these people register to vote. Payback's a bitch, nativists.

Ambinder has absolutely no clue. In addition to not calling things by their true names, he's wrong about Huck. He hasn't really changed his basic position, he's just come up with an unworkable plan. And, all the Dems are full of hot air.

As for the worries of those Republicans ("irreparably damaged"), let me be frank: look into their funding.

If the MSM did its job, almost all the candidates (except for Tancredo, Paul, Hunter, and perhaps Thompson and Romney) would have been driven out of the race due to their policies on this issue. It's like hiring someone to build a bridge and all they can come up with is a drawing on a napkin, and it's not even of a bridge.

Scan through my archives or watch some of these for what's really going on with this issue.

Tancredo hasn't announced anything yet. This is all speculation.

I grew up in the area Bay Buchanan is living in Vienna, VA.. She was really nice. Went to church with her, my growing up years... She is LDS.

She is very nice.

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"Payback's a bitch, nativists."
A lot of immigrants (even brown ones, as you call them) are against illegal immigration and for legal immigration.

"besides being unelectable, Ron Paul has many supporters who are the original hardcore free trade, open markets, "No Borders to the cheapest labor migrating between countries" Libertarians."

Perhaps that's true, but that has nothing to do with Ron Paul's stance on the issues, which is "build a fence and stop subsidizing illegal immigration."

Gerald Ford said Reagan was unelectable, four months before he endorsed him! No one is "unelectable" unless their name isn't on the ballot, and I will say that I think Ron Paul has the most chance of any Republican against the Democrats-- he's the only one who can take votes away from them and neutralize them on the war (and the Democratic base is bigger than the Republican base, keep that in mind).

I've posted this at more than just this blog, but I definitely do not work for Romney's campaign. I want some conservatives, who I feel haven't given Mitt a fair shake thus far, to seriously reconsider their positions. Romney is clearly now the anti-illegal immigration candidate. What candidate can win the support of ALL conservatives...fiscal, defense, AND social? Mitt's the man!

The paramount question regarding the mass occupation of illegal immigrants, is who do we trust to enforce the laws of the Simpson/Mazzoli law of 1986?

Now that an honest, true patriot of Americas sovereignty Rep. Tom Tancredo has stepped down from the presidential rat-race, who do taxpayers support to halt the illegal tide of foreign national workers? Not Senator Obama, because he was honest enough to declare he would give the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens a driving license, while Senator Hillary Clinton flip-flopped on the matter The New York senator stumbled without giving a direct answer before coming out firmly against the plan a few weeks later. Everybody knows were Governor of New Mexico stands in his pandering to his state population of illegal immigrants, by giving them drivers licenses. The burning immigration issue is one reason Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona slipped in the polls after coming out strongly last summer in support of a crumbling Comprehensive immigration compromise plan. The bipartisan compromise, which was pushed by President Bush, Sen. Ted kennedy and fell apart after a June test vote, which called for a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, in otherwords AMNESTY!

The majority of free-thinking citizens want a tougher approach to end illegal immigration, pulled away from McCain. He is now trailing former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Giuliani in national polls.
Mike Huckabee, who has recently become a stronger contender for the GOP nomination, has indicated one of the clearest stands against the illegal alien invasion, in sharp contrast to Romney and Giuliani.

We know that Giuliani once set policies that barred New York city officials from reporting illegal immigrants, only recently released his views in a campaign commercial airing in the East Coast. In the commercial, Giuliani said the nation needs a leader to fix the issues, including building a border fence, training Border Patrol enforcement and allowing illegal immigrants to pursue citizenship after they learn to speak English as well as U.S. history. Of course this has been a travesty of the original Comprehensive Immigration Bill of last March. Like the border fence construction act, that President Bush signed into law. The amendment for appropriation of funds has been whittled away and the co-author of the bill, Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) intentionally switched the ability of the two-tier barrier even to be erected. She gave Homeland Security free rein on how it should be built and where. In other words they have all but scrapped the President Bush bill, to stop drugs, people smuggling and the entrance of deadly middle Eastern jihardists, Hamas and others who would harm America.

Giuliani's original stance on illegal immigrants helped fuel his dispute with Romney, which exploded during the live CNN/YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, Florida., late last month.

Both went at it, with Romney saying Giuliani instigated illegal immigration by turning New York into a city refuge for illegal immigrants, while Giuliani called Romney's home a "sanctuary mansion."

Outside Duncan Hunter, possibly Ron Paul, who can we really trust to head off social services bankruptcy that effects all U.S. taxpayers. Which one of these multi-millionaires who want to be our new president, has the integrity to halt $billions of dollars being spent on illegal aliens. Who will really think of the humble citizen, who is forced to support big business welfare, who pay nothing to the upkeep of illegal foreign workers and their extended families. Which one, if any has the courage to stand up to the globalist open-border, free-trade agendas. WHO?

Jasper, above, says birthright citizenship for the offspring of illegal aliens is embedded in the Constitution. Uh, uh. The legislative history of the 14th Amendment torpedoes that idea. Here's a resource on the subject: http://www.claremont.org/publications/pub_print.asp?pubid=464

And keep this pertinent fact in mind: American Indians weren't automatic U.S. citizens until an explicit act of Congress in 1924 made them so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Citizenship_Act_of_1924

Jasper also slurs as "nativists" those of us who don't like what mass immigration is doing to our country. I come at it originally as an environmentalist, naturally concerned with overpopulation. It didn't take long, while living in southern California 1996 - 2005, to realize that the problems go way beyond environmental:

1. The flood of immigrants drives wages and living conditions in our central cities toward those of the Third World.

2. The influx imposes both sprawl and gridlock on our metropolitan areas.

3. Immigrant families needing services overwhelm our schools, taxpayer-funded healthcare facilities, and other public agencies.

4. Those requiring services don’t assimilate and, instead, expect to be served in their native languages.

5. American civic culture frays as each ethnic group establishes its own grievance lobby and pushes for preferences.

6. Illegal aliens bring us fearsome diseases such as tuberculosis (new, drug-resistant strains) and Chagas.

7. Shortages of water and other resources loom, especially in immigration-blitzed California.

No nativism involved -- just the abilities to observe and think.


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