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The Daily Five: Check Out What Fred's SC Co-Chair Says About Mormonism

05 Dec 2007 05:15 pm

1. Clinton in NH for "organizing for change" rally tomorrow; has fundraiser with John Grisham tomorrow night in DC; Edwards goes home to Seneca, NC and visits Charleston, SC; Giuliani campaigns in and raises money in Florida; Romney is in College Station, Texas for his speech on "Faith In America.";

Politico's Smith obtains anti-Obama e-mail sent by Clinton volunteer; Clinton staffer Ryan Callahan was cc'ed on the original e-mail. Some Nevada supporters of HRC have been similarly off-message; HRC endorsed by newspaper in Vinson; Obama recieves endorsement of Iowa State Daily; In speech at NASDAQ market site, Clinton urges Wall Street to "do its part" in solving the foreclosure crisis;

3. Huckabee campaign angry that ABC did not contact them to provide an "opposing perspective" on the Wayne DuMond case...According to the AP, Huckabee's name ID has risen from 31% in August to nearly 50% today...Fred Thompson's S.C. co-chair predicts that Romney's Mormon speech will hurt him; calls doctrines of Mormon church "vastly different" from Catholic, Protestant and Jewish doctrines...Thompson gets Nat'l Right To Life Endorsement...

4. Saturday's Obama-Oprah venues in Iowa still not sold out; New Hampshire event is at capacity, and campaign moves South Carolina event to accommodate demand....Federal judge in Florida.upholds right of DNC to enforce its primary rules, turning away a challenge from Florida Democrats.

5. WV Gov. Joe Manchin named chair of the Democratic Governors Association; vice-chair will be MT's Schweitzer. DGA hopes to fund $18M+ political program for '08.

Comments (10)

"Fred Thompson's S.C. co-chair predicts that Romney's Mormon speech will hurt him; calls doctrines of Mormon church "vastly different" from Catholic, Protestant and Jewish doctrines"

I will grant you that Mormon doctrine is different than those of these 3 groups, but he speaks as if these 3 groups are all really similar and Mormonism is the oulier. Seriously? If nothing else, Mormons teach that Jesus Christ is a Savior, however differently they may define that. That puts Mormons much closer to Catholics and Protestants than Judaism is. I'm not trying to split them off either, but Thompson would be skewered if he said something that sounded remotely bigoted about Judaism, but his campaign guys can talk like this about Mormonism?! That doesn't even make sense and it certainly isn't good for America.

The interesting thing about all this is that religious variety, the fact that there are so many different sects, indicates that all of them, at one point or another deemed the other faiths available to be defficient, wrong, or wayward. When you form a new sect or new faith or new faith traditition you are implicitly, but effectively, saying that no other existing one is cutting it for your needs.

Luther saw the value in having a competent Muslim ruler over a less, or incompetent Christian ruler. I would hope all or most could see likewise.

I think the anti-Obama e-mail - the Manchurian Muslim thing - will be remembered as the final thing to propel him to the nomination at Clinton's expense.

Remember this surfaced in late spring, in the form of Obama being educated in an extremist Muslim elementary school, and while I forget the details, some conservative website said they got it from the Clinton campaign. The website didn't offer any specific names, and the Clinton campaign denied doing that.

This makes it harder to believe that earlier denial.

I will point out there's no evidence that Hillary Clinton knew anything about this, nor that senior campaign officials did. But again, its the second time the finger was pointed her way, and in this second time, it can be traced back to someone on Clinton's staff.

Coupled with the fact that most everyone was expecting her to run a dirty, below-the-belt campaign even before she announced, meaning she has no benefit of the doubt, and it looks as bad as anything that happened to McCain in South Carolina.

The weather in Iowa isn't suppposed to be very good this weekend. I think that might be a reason the Obama-Oprah event in Des Moines isn't sold out. The one in Cedar Rapids is.

I have suspected the clinton camp behind some of the emails for awhile. I am not saying they are part of it all but, this is part of the way they operate.
They would pick it up and keep it circulating to keep the rumor and ugly email alive.

What was it that she said that was bigoted?

Was she not just sharing her opinion?

Did she say don't vote for Romney because he is Mormon?

You people are SO sensitive!

It's common knowledge that it's okay to bash Mormonism due to the vast majority of Americans that are, at the very least, "wary" of the religion. Just like Islam...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Senator Fred Thompson is the only candidate that gets it. He makes decisions based on principles. Principles don’t change. You have to stand for something and not change who you are based on the polls. That is what Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani have done and all of the Democrats do it. Give me a leader that will stand by his principles anyday versus someone that stands for everything.

I know many Republicans and conservatives that will stay home if Rudy Giuliani is the candidate. He does not represent our values as conservatives, and never will. Mitt Romney is a Republican-in-name-only (RINO) that simply has everything else and nothing to do. “I guess I’ll just try to buy the presidency”. The White House isn’t for sale! Mike Huckabee is pro-illegal alien amnesty and for open borders and free tuition for illegals!! NO THANKS!! Conservatives will simply stay home and the Democrats will pick up additional seats in the House and probably get the 60 seats in the Senate they need to completely destroy our Country. Nice picture huh?

However, I think Fred can bring America back together, if that’s even possible. America needs a rebirth of patriotism and honor. Republicans also need a rebirth. President Reagan was our last rebirth and he can never be duplicated. Fred Thompson will bring his own down-to-earth common sense to this country.. A little of the good old days of faith, federalism and family would do well for this country. If a conservative runs as a conservative, he will win!

Think of it this way: Eight years of another sleazy, left-wing Clinton White House? Now if that is not a sufficient enough reason to pull together as a nation, and fight this socialist liberal takeover of our government, what is?

Folks, we are in for the fight of our lives, just as our young men and women are fighting for our freedoms in Iraq and Afghanistan, we must fight for our nation right here and now! I truly believe Fred Thompson is the one man who can pull this nation back together! Rudy Giuliani will just tear us apart.

What if the stories about Barack Hussein Obama really are true? How do you or I know if he went to a Muslim madrassa (radical religious school for boys) or not? Because he says so? That doesn't cut it anymore. Do we really want a woman who penned love poems to communist authors or a proto-Muslim in charge of our nuclear weapons? Think!! As bad as the GOP might be, they are serious about national defense, homeland security, cutting taxes and preserving our rights!

HiveRadical:

Luther saw the value in having a competent Muslim ruler over a less, or incompetent Christian ruler. I would hope all or most could see likewise.

That would be relevant if there were a Muslim running for President at this point, but as there is not, I do not see it as relevant.

Jorge Martinez:

What if the stories about Barack Hussein Obama really are true? How do you or I know if he went to a Muslim madrassa (radical religious school for boys) or not? Because he says so? That doesn't cut it anymore. Do we really want a woman who penned love poems to communist authors or a proto-Muslim in charge of our nuclear weapons? Think!! As bad as the GOP might be, they are serious about national defense, homeland security, cutting taxes and preserving our rights!

teh stupid, it hurts!

We know because independent researchers, including some employed by CNN, have actually investigated the school and found that it was actually a public school...far from a radical madrassa:

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