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Caucus Day: Spin This!

03 Jan 2008 10:04 am

** Hillary Clinton is looking forward. Her campaign has begun to promote rallies and events in New Hampshire. Surrogate visits are being planned for Feb. 5. states. (Even Clinton's campaign manager and national political director will spend time on caucus day briefing reporters in states like Nevada about the campaign). Yesterday, some Clinton allies tried to claw back the conventional wisdom that Clinton has to win Iowa to survive; I do not believe the clawback is going to work, based on the campaign's own trajectory here, based on the fact that they're imported almost a thousand friend of Hill to the state, have spent millions, and have not disputed the notion, internally, that a third place finish in Iowa would be devastating. Perhaps not fatal, but devastating. After all -- she is the national frontrunner. Frontrunners are supposed to win everywhere. On ABC this weekend she said: "When I started here, I was in single digits. I mean, nobody expected me to be doing as well as I'm doing in Iowa." Nobody, meaning, almost everybody, unfortunately. (The campaign can't point us to a poll where she was ever in single digits.)

** Clinton has around 5000 volunteers; for every "hard one" who can't drive themselves to the caucus -- think elderly folks with oxygen tanks or mobility problems -- the campaign has drivers for them. Obama has "several thousand"; Edwards has several thousand; Romney has "hundreds."

** Obama's campaign spend yesterday telephoning and door-knocking all of their "ones," and they claim that their "flake rate" -- the percentage of confirmed attendees who suddenly say they can't go -- was low. Obama is said to be very tired, very pumped, a little on auto-pilot, and confident.

** If John Edwards doesn't finish first, he's going to have a tough time getting the attention of the media, but he is not going to drop out, and he has the capacity as a candidate who continuously surprise everyone. He's strong in New Hampshire -- stronger than he was in 2004 at this point, and has a real staff there who can catch whatever momentum he has. His populism is popular among a certain smaller segment of New Hampshire voters -- working class folks in towns like Berlin and Rochester -- but the winning Democratic candidate has always managed to put together a coalition of working class voters and professionals from cities like Nashua and Merrimack -- something Edwards has not shown an ability to do.

** If there's a three-way tie -- and Hillary Clinton winds up on the lowest of the three rungs -- then watch to see how eagerly the media is to declare the End of the Clinton Era in the Democratic Party, even though, by rights, she deserves to continue.

Comments (15)

Clinton may be well-financed, but a loss today is going to get her about $1 billion worth of negative publicity. Hard to fight that with money.

As for Obama, unless the headlines out of Iowa are 'BLACK MAN BEATS WHITE WOMAN', I don't see how the press fails to completely swoon for him.

lampwick: LOL!!!

Personally, I can't wait until the press piles on! They created this false inevitable juggernaut - now they get to tear it down!

It seems to me that the path for Edwards, should he win Iowa, is to cobble together his working class support thanks to his 2008 message with voters who liked Edwards the last time around, who tended to be the more independent/moderate/better educated/higher income types (during the Kerry-Edwards duel, exit polls consistently showed JRE drawing more of his support from less partisan voters). It's not clear to me that that's possible in New Hampshire, but you never know.

...that a third place finish in Iowa would be devastating.

A 3rd place finish for Clinton with Obama finishing first would be devastating for both Hillary and Edwards (the latter must place first today to stay viable). A 3rd place finish for Hillary with Edwards finishing first (and Obama second) would not be so devastating, because her most dangerous opponent -- or at least the one she perceives as most dangerous, Obama -- would also get a bit of a bloody nose. The fact is, expectations for Obama's campaign have been raised enormously.

Also, the space between the candidates matters. A 32-31-29 bunch up by the "big three" will be spun by both the media and the 2nd/3rd place camps as something of a "muddle up."

Clinton may be well-financed, but a loss today is going to get her about $1 billion worth of negative publicity. Hard to fight that with money.

A "loss" by Obama would generate the same kind of "negative publicity" for him, as well, maybe more so, given the wide expectations now for an Obama first place finish. Also, as noted above, there's a huge difference for a "losing" Clinton campaign in Iowa depending on who she's losing to. Much less damaging to her if she loses to a first place Edwards.

Let us be honest here. Marc and all of the US Press, esp. bloggers, want HRC to win. They want a Queen (and a King). They (Press and Royalty) will stop at nothing.

It is time to call the Press for their premptive High Crime and Misdemeanor. This is High Noon robbery. I spilled my coffee on my white shirt this morning as I heard a woman on tv say that Obama is muslim.

Why? Clinton + Press: a super fantastic match.

Calling on all legal scholars: Sue the US Press.

One more thought: If Obama places first, it's almost a wash to Hillary whether she places second or third. While a third place finish is pretty dismal for her campaign, at least under such a scenario a second place Edwards would not drop out of the race tomorrow morning. Which means that technically his campaign would still be alive and fighting in New Hampshire, where, presumably he pulls more support from Obama than from Clinton. If the finish in Iowa is Obama(1)-Clinton(2)-Edwards(3), John Edwards's modest support in New Hampshire could collapse over the next five days. And that presumably would divert more votes to Obama than to Clinton.

Very astute Jasper!

For Edwards, the danger of a second-place finish is that the money-well will begin to dry up, and once that process starts it will become a vicious circle. If I were him and I lost, I would skip NH entirely and head straight to NC, where he could pull out a win with some full-time retail politicking, and which might put him in position to say that he, HRC, and BHO split the first three states.

Delving into the Zogby/CSPAN poll out this morning that shows Clinton in third place, you'll find the "second round" numbers even worse. If they're right she could come in third some 10 points behind Obama and possibly 5 in back of Edwards.

Not saying that will happen, but if this poll and the "DM Register" are right, look for Clinton's campaign staff to walk the plank with Bill taking over. You can never count her out, but it would be a huge blow going into New Hampshire.

Still think we're in for a long night with a tight three way finish that will cloud rather than clear the outlook, however both these polls have organizations with solid results behind them. The fact that Kucinich and possible Richardson and Biden may have instructions out to their supporters to go over to Obama if the 15% threshold isn't reached is another factor.

Something else to consider: If Clinton finishes 2nd or 3rd in a tightly bunched group, with Obama on top, that might be a spun as a tie, but it might also be spun as "60% of Iowa Dem reject Dem front-runner", a story line that could propel Obama to victory in NH (where he is more popular and stronger organizationally than Edwards) and SC (where the black vote would, in this scenario, break very hard for him)...at that point, Edwards is edged out, and we're 3 weeks into this and Clinton still doesn't have a single win, while Obama is riding high.

That'd be, basically, a month of great coverage for him leading into Feb 5th, something that could very well propel him to victory. I think people are underselling how much Clinton might need to be on top.

A new ARG poll shows a huge Clinton lead this morning -- but it models 83% of registered Democrats which seems to be a highly improbable number at this point. The higher that stays, the more likely Clinton is of being in good shape, of course.

If Sen. Clinton comes in third, my bet is that with momentum and all the media stories, Obama would win in NH.

Would the Clinton campaign be able to survive two losses in a row? I think it probably could but she could be dangerously close to losing this thing.

I've speculated about it citing Marc's post.

http://thepoliticalpost.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/can-hillary-clinton-survive-a-third-place-finish-in-iowa/

When you have the facts; you pound the facts. When you have the evidence; you pound the evidence. When you have nothing; you pound the table. No matter what happens in Iowa, Bill & Hillary Clinton will continue to pound the table. Here are the facts; here's the evidence: http://theseedsof9-11.com

"CLINTON BRACES FOR PRESS BACKLASH....."

Media backlash?

What do you mean media backlash?

Hillary has had nothing but media backlash ever since she declared.

Obama has been media darling from day one. He wouldn't be where he is without the media cheering him on.

Hillary can survive the "media backlash" because that is all she has ever known and she has thrived in spite of having to deal with intense media hostility.

Hitlery is not going to bow out quietly. She's the witch queen of Washington DC and will drag all democrats down with her. She feels entitled to be president.

I wouldn't vote for her if she ran against Hitler.