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Clinton Stimulates.

11 Jan 2008 12:40 pm

In California today, Sen. Hillary Clinton unveils a smorgasboard of spending proposals to ward off a recession.

Clinton would rebate $40M to lower and middle class families, spend $10B to strengthen unemployment insurance, accellerate spending to "jumpstart green collar growth," spend $25B in home heating assistance grants (to shore up LiHEAP) and establish a $30B emergency housing crisis fund. Total cost: $70B. (Alex Conant at the RNC -- did you get that?)

If we accept HRC's prose/poetry dichotomy, where Obama is Byron and she is Hannah Arendt, then as the "prose" candidate, all of her numbers for her big spending proposals ought to add up. So where does the money come from? We'll see...

(Update: Neera Tanden calls to point out that stimulus packages aren't supposed to be revenue neutral and that this expenditure would be for one year only.)

(Update: Alex Conant of the RNC e-mails:

Senator Clinton cannot be trusted to be honest and upfront about her reckless fiscal proposals. Clinton says she wants to ‘put money in people’s hands,’ but her plans require massive tax increases on hardworking families. Clinton’s campaign says that every spending proposal ‘must be paid for,’ but she can’t tell the American people how she will finance nearly $800 billion in new government spending. Hillary Clinton’s misguided rhetoric concerning our economy is not believable or credible.”)

Last December, Edwards, too, would "accelerate" investment in clean energy, spend to ensure that unemployment insurance is available in the wake of massive job layoffs, increase the federal contribution to Medicaid, and create a "Home Rescue Fund."

Speaking of stimulus packages: John Edwards needs one for his campaign, and to that end, campaign manager David Bonior sent an e-mail to the campaign list today selling tee shirts and buttons, A twenty dollar tee shirt, he says, can bring in 40 dollars with of resources.

Comments (20)

Here's the Clinton Road Map:

1) Talk down the economy. Notice how many times she will say, "I think we are slipping into a recession."

2)Revive nostalgia for the 90's economy and strongly imply to lower income voters that the Clintons have a magic wand to bring back economic growth and fiscal responsibilty. The Clintons are going to continue to take credit for the economic progress that resulted more from the end of the cold war and the tech boom than anything Bill Clinton ever did.

3) Put out a stimulus package that appeals strongly to lower income voters

The Obama campaign needs to take this issue very seriously. They have pretty much succeeded in neutralizing the foreign policy/graviats issue. But with increasing economic worries, they have to be out front on this issue and maybe find some ways to draw distinctions. Obama should highlight his lower income tax cuts. The economy an issue in which the Clinton brand has a natural advantage and so Obama's people need to focus like a laser beam on it themselves.

I had been thinking the past few days that all the political blogs had been slowed down considerably and that everyone must be getting their rest.
Well, it is now confirmed that the campaign has slowed down: we are now reduced to talking about POLICY ! The horror !

spend $25B in home heating assistance grants (to shore up LiHEAP)

I see how this helps poor people pay their heating bills rather than freeze to death (which is good), but how does it help spur the American economy? The money all goes to imports--mostly from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Also, the green collar growth is good, but it's certainly not a short-term stimulus (unless she intends spending on the scale of a WPA project, I don't see how it's going to make much short-term impact)

All the other proposals are obvious (and good) domestic stimulus measures. But suggesting that shoring up LiHEAP is an economic stimulus measure is like suggesting it's healthcare.

It doesn't make it a bad idea (on the contrary, it's excellent), but it isn't what you think it is, so it's probably not going to have the effects you anticipate.

So much for "experience."

There is always the danger that those who sit at their desks reacting to a candidate's proposals are not out there trying to put food on the table. I think Clinton is talking about those folks. Now we can find lots of reasons to say that it won't work or be sceptical. But we should resist the temptation to be cynical. When we ask where's the beef don't complain when it is placed before you and you are asked to pay. Perhaps Obama will devote sometime giving us less uplifting rhetoric and tell us about how one can deal with the cash requirements of the urban poor. He has had some experience with those issues and he should tell us about some of the good things he has done.

Clinton would rebate $40M to lower and middle class families

Huh? Like $1 per family to the 40M poorest families? Is this supposed to be $40B?

Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano To Endorse Barack Obama For President:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0110napolitano-CR.html

It's a shame I have to get on here and report significant news that happens not to favor Hillary Clinton's campaign. How could The Atlantic hire this prick?

"Perhaps Obama will devote sometime giving us less uplifting rhetoric and tell us about how one can deal with the cash requirements of the urban poor."

I went to his website and checked under economic proposals. I'd cut and paste, but the page is too long to fit here.

I don't know if it's specific enough to satisfy everyone, but it's not like Obama hasn't put his ideas out there for people.

Clinton is out there speaking about the issues and putting out real plans.

Obama is just spewing a bunch of nonsense about "hope". Hope doesn't get it done.

Clinton is showing leadership while Obama struts around blowing a lot of hot air and empty talk.

Thanks Helter. But can those who have trouble putting food on the table go to a website? Why not have Obama spell this out in a campaign swing? Policy stuff on websites is fine, it keeps teams busy fleshing things out. The average voter won't be going there. The less than average voter without a computer???

Dickie Head: Thanks for being the Troll you are.

"But can those who have trouble putting food on the table go to a website? Why not have Obama spell this out in a campaign swing?"

I don't know what they hand out at campaign events, and I don't know what's in his current stump speech. I googled quickly and came up with this http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/17/364700.aspx , so it sounds like he's been talking about it on the road.

re: "Senator Clinton cannot be trusted to be honest and upfront about her reckless fiscal proposals."

Isn't this a little laughable coming from the RNC?
The Bush Republicans were handed a surplus by Bill Clinton and the Bush Republicans have turned it into a recession!

Does the RNC actually believe they are going to run on their "record" of "fiscal conservatism" over the last seven years?

Ron Paul and I are L.O.F.A.O.!

Shouldn't the real title of this post be "Clinton Panders"?

Let's see...50% of the country say they won't vote for Hillary "under any circumstances", a large number of Obama supporters will either not vote or vote Republican if Hillary gets the nomination. How does this add up to a victory over McCain? Would a Clinton supporter please explain?

about Clinton - fairy tale!
about Obama - I agree that he should get more nitty gritty. I listen for that stuff in the speeches, and it's there, but only if you listen for it. I want more of it, and I want him to connect the dots for people and reassure them that he's got specific ideas, and that they're better than hers. And not just on health care, where he's been attacked.

"Last December, Edwards, too, would "accelerate" investment in clean energy, spend to ensure that unemployment insurance is available in the wake of massive job layoffs, increase the federal contribution to Medicaid, and create a "Home Rescue Fund."

Hmmm...I thought that sounded familiar! Textbook Clintonian taking other people's ideas and claiming them as their own.

Come on people, WAKE UP!

Posted by Gred Jenkins | January 11, 2008 3:42 PM "How does this add up to a victory over McCain? Would a Clinton supporter please explain?"

I actually would explain it to you if I thought you would listen. You won't. So let me move on.

If you don't think Clinton can't beat John McCain, you haven't imagined the video of McCain laughing like a maniac while singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" to a bunch of old military farts... and it being played over and over and over and over again to a nation that can't stand George W. Bush OR the thought of us bombing Iran.

(My husband is a Gulf War I combat vet and he can't stand McCain, so be careful with your generalities.)

Who cares if 50% of the country won't vote for Clinton? It's probably the same idiotic 50% that voted FOR GW Bush.
Please tell them all to just go away. They have BAD judgement in Presidents.

I honestly don't care what Clinton Haters think about the Clintons.

My favorite activity all day Wednesday was watching Clinton Haters eat crow after crow after crow after crow....
Delicious!

RKA posts, "The Clintons are going to continue to take credit for the economic progress that resulted more from the end of the cold war and the tech boom than anything Bill Clinton ever did."

As I understand it, the end of the cold war led to rapid declines in defense spending and associated layoffs in the defense sector, leading to high unemployment in California and other defense industry reliant states just prior to and in the first half of Clinton's presidency.
Care to explain exactly how the end of the cold war was responsible for the economic boom of the 90's? Seriously, what is your logic for saying that?

*cough* Alex Conant is a choad *cough*

Also, if a $20 t-shirt can make $40, why don't they drop the price to $10 and make $80 of resources? Haven't they been listening to Republicans rant about lowering marginal tax rates? /snark

Jan:

You are a delusional mental midget and one of those pathetic and stereotypical dismissive liberals that think that everyone else is "idiotic". Truth be told, your post shows that indeed it's you, Jan, that is the idiot. You obviously can't explain how someone who 50% of the country will not vote for "under any circumstances" wins a general election. Hillary pulls no Republicans, no independendents, and with the race baiting tack the Clinton campaign has chosen to take, far fewer African American voters now as well. Hmmm. Guess that leaves the old lady as well as the unemployed single Mom demographics. Good luck. If Hillary does manage to sniffle her way into the general, it is you who will be eating crow and no doubt pathetically crying about how "misogynist" all those evil men are out there. You're a fucking joke.

Hillary made the the top of Judicial Watch's Ten Most Corrupt Politicians of 2007 list. Rudy, Pelosi and senator Craig were also included. Why anyone would consider voting for an establishment politician who hides records, tries to steal White House furniture and divides the country is beyond comprehension.