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It's Hard Out There For Conservatives

22 Jan 2008 12:16 pm

Containing political panic over the economy is hard for professional conservatives in Washington -- those who spend their days thinking about, writing about, debating conservatism, especially when there's a presidential race on the candidates are facing real voters in town hall meetings.

The Pro-Cons will caution patience. And the candidates will be on hastily-called telephonic conferences with policy advisers asking for help: "What can I say that won't anger the Pro-Cons? Are there are any arrows left to fire?"

When economic crises intervene, politicians are expected to do something or say something, and Democrats, because they can keep increasing the tab on their stimulus packages, often have more to say. Though Republicans are running to head the government, their antipathy to government intervention and regulation, based in part on philosophy and principle, in part on the need to psychically separately themselves from the other party and in part on the need to pander to their donors -- closes off many avenues for amelioration. (Indeed, there's even an interesting and non-academic debate about whether crises ought to be ameliorated -- most stimulus plans tend to kick in too late -- and the preference for monetary intervention over fiscal policy is hard to explain on the stump.

For the most part, Republican presidential candidates are not addressing wealthy voters on the stump; they are not addressing professional conservatives; they are not addressing upper-income voters who've spent time assimilating the intellectual case for a conservative
economic response.

Compounding maters, the Republican brand is no longer synonymous with fiscal discipline -- no brand is, really -- and attempts to make that attribute paramount are, again, probably more likely to please the Pro-Cons than satiate the concerns of the real-life cons(ervatives) who can read Stephen Moore with one hand and feel tremors with the other because they can't afford the mortgage.

Responses vary. Mitt Romney is optimistic. "**Every time i see things get scary, I put aside fear and say, aha is this a buying opportunity." Along with the usual corporate rate cuts, he has not ruled out additional government spending. He seems to have an inner force that directs him to assess problems and solve them. With health care in Massachusetts, he seems to have come to terms with a balance between pragmatism and political ideology, and he has sacrificed the former for the latter -- arguably a good thing. (He also wants to reduce taxation on investment, which would arguably increase savings, which is kind of the opposite of a stimulus package.)

Whipping out a tax cut, as Rudy Giuliani does, measuring it, and then bragging about it could easily be seen as cartoonish and one-dimensional. As in -- he's a guy who doesn't hang around with people who can't afford their mortgages; moreover, his instinct is to punish and instruct, rather than to help; and I'm kind of looking for a way out of this mess, right now, and not at the person who'll wave the biggest tax cut in front of my face and proclaim that an economic plan. There is more to Giuliani's economic vision than this, but he has a tough time communicating it.

Fred Thompson exemplified conservative toughness, and his economic policy was roundly praised by those who professionally test economic policies for their conservativeness, but, alas, he is out of the race.

John McCain communicates well on national security and is hit-or-miss on economic policy. He hhas admittedly, plainly, that he doesn't know as much about it as do the other candidates.

Who gets the better of the day?

Comments (65)

Mitt has laid out a balance of short term stimuli and longer term growth measures that will keep America prosperous in both the short term AND long term. Do we really need more than 150 poverty agencies and programs? Pick out the 6 or 7 that are really having a positive impact, build on those, and get rid of the rest. This is the approach Mitt wants to take throughout the government. It won't win him the bureaucrat vote, but it will win him the votes of thinking Americans who care about our future.

Florida Must Speak For All Conservatives next Tuesday.

Rasmussen Florida: *ROMNEY 25 - McCain 20 - Giuliani 19 - Huckabee 13.

Rasmussen National: McCain 25 - *ROMNEY 19 - Huckabee 15 - Giuliani 10 - Thompson 10.

*Romney's first ever Florida lead and highest ever National ranking. Can you say Momentum?

Governor Romney's plan for economic renewal, immigration control and national security catches fire in Florida and across America!

On Jan. 29 Vote: Mitt Romney for President of the United States.

Your comments on Giuliani provide no substance whatsoever. This is continued whitewash meant to improve McCain's standing. Giuliani's tax plan -- to actual conservatives -- is amazing, and considering what he got passed in liberal NYC, he may be the only one who could get it done.

By the way, now that Thompson dropped out, whether or not he endorses McCain, his support will go to Giuliani. The two have been splitting the conservative vote - watch Florida...

Candidates touting a short-term fix are pandering: does anyone really believe that on January 21, 2009, any of these "stimulus" measures will matter? It's now or never for those.

Long-term measures are something these candidates can actually do something about. Mitigating the double taxation on corporations, cutting top tax rates, and extending the Bush tax cuts will unshackle small businesses and economy-wide investors and will encourage investment and job-creation.

Keeping in mind that Medicare/Medicaid health-fare spending threatens to explode government spending within just the next 10 years, a Massachusetts/Romney-style health care reform could not come at a worse time. It will be a job and an economy killer and will break the back of investors and small businesses.

John McCain has absolutely nothing to say on the subject.

But there is a better choice for conservatives who care about the economy:

JOIN RUDY if you agree that conservative economics can help America win again!

FRED IS OUT.

1. Fred supporters favor Romney as a second choice by 3:1.
2. Fred supporters despise McCain and would sooner vote for Hillary.
3. Fred has NOT endorsed McCain knowing that his followers would never forgive him. He is still possibility for Romney/Thompson ticket.

Mitt's experience as a "fix-it guy" with "real-world" business experience is HUGE right now.

McCain's "strong on defense" is useless.

Mitt will win FL by double digits and it will be a crushing blow to the McCain Campaign.

Mitt may actually be the de factor nominee after FL is done.

Tax cuts obviously are the most relevant factor that the govt has in their arsenal but apart from ideology the KEY THING IS SIMPLY THIS---- HILARY'S WISH LIST INCLUDING UNIVERSAL HEATH CARE WILL NECCESSITATE MASSIVE TAX INCREASES ON MIDDLE CLASS AND EXPOSE HRC AS NOT A MODERATE BILL CLIONTON TYPE BUT THE HARD CORE COLLECTIVIST THAT SHE IS . WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING BETTER ECONOMICALLY THEY ARE MORE CHARITABLE WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS BUT SEEING THEM LOSING VALUE IN THEIR HOUSE WILL MAKE THEM WANT TO TIGHTEN PURSE STRINGS MORE THAN ANYTHING .

Wow, is this a comments section or a newspaper ad section? All five people who've responded are shilling for one candidate or another, twisting their analysis to support their theories and making crackpot declarations based on gut instinct. Mitt will win by double-digits in Florida? Really? I'm sure the Romney campaign would love to get their hands on that poll... Thompson's supporters will go to Rudy? Really?

"Mitt may actually be the de factor nominee after FL is done."

I nearly choked on my chocolate chip cookie from reading that. Go back to putting up lawn signs and calling phone banks, campaign volunteer.

It appears some have Romney's MA-style health care plan confused with the old Hillarycare! Romney strongly suggests that each state come up with a system of private-enterprise-centered health care supported by government tax assistance (as I read it). It is NOT something the big-government protagonists want, nor the bureaucrats. With 55% of Americans working for a government entity of some sort, is anyone surprised that anvil around the taxpayer's neck is beginning to drag us all under? Romney's plan is to run government like a business, meaning the waste and inefficiencies are NOT TOLERATED! Why? Because nobody can afford them and eventually such a business with go out of business. Put Romney in to fix it. After all, he's had quite a track record of doing that in business, the volunteer sector, and gov'mt! And one thing he can do is bring disparate factions together working for a common cause. Boy, is that ever needed!

Got Mitt?

Romney and John Kerry are the same person. They will do or say anything to get elected. Romney looked those autoworkers in the eye and lied to their faces about manufacturing jobs.

Only Rudy Giuliani has a viable economic plan backed by historical results and the ability to defeat the Democrat in November.

FLORIDA - Please please please vote for Rudy!

You cannot believe Mitt Romney, he is a liar and a panderer, if he runs against Hillary, I dont know which one will pander more.

Mitt Romney will NEVER be elected by the American people ... ever. Both Hillary and Obama can and will beat Mitt Romney. If the Republicans want a shot, it must be either Rudy or McCain.


I like Rudy because he knows how to run a government like an executive should.

Florida, it's up to you!

VOTE RUDY!!!

If you like Fred Thompson, you should vote for Rudy!

Giuliani / Thompson is a winning ticket. It is balanced both ideologically and regionally. Mitt Romney has neither a philosophy nor an opinion. He is a panderer who will do anything to get nominated and he must be stopped.

VOTE GIULIANI. VOTE GIULIANI. VOTE GIULIANI.

I differ with Mayor Giuliani on several issues, but am convinced that he will be the most conservative President of all our choices. As a Texan, I am amazed at the turnaround he showed in New York. Plus, he has agreed to nominate conservative jurists.

I have serious reservations about Mitt Romney. He is much like Al Gore and John Kerry in that while he "looks the part" there is something very inauthentic and plastic about him.

This is why I and many of my neighbors in colleagues in San Antonio are supporting Mayor Giuliani.

I only hope Florida votes for Rudy so that my vote will count! With all due respect, we Texans don't care about Iowa and New Hampshire too much.

Rich Rogers

The only candidate that has been talking up until now about the housing crisis and the federal reserve's role in creating it is Ron Paul. Whether he actually benefits at all (let alone enough to matter) from having things come to a head like this remains to be seen; but his prescience deserves some acknowledgment.
McCain is weak on economics. I still remember him saying (in Michigan) that he thought interest rates should be zero. On the plus side he at least realizes he's ignorant, so talented advisors could be hoped for.
Giuliani's tax cuts and spending increases leave a deficit big enough to bankrupt an entire generation. The Laffer curve is real, but that doesn't mean that every tax cut yields a revenue increase - that curve has a downslope side as well as an upslope.
Romney does indeed seem to be a panderer who will say whatever he needs to to get elected. This means that if I want to know what he'll do, I should probably look at his record instead of listening to the vacuous babble coming out of his mouth. And his record is solid enough that I think he's probably the best of these three.

Romney is the real deal. While one or another candidate is strong in the defense, economic and values areas, he is solid in all. He is a great communicator and has brought positive change to everything he has been involved in. See

http://www.mittromney.com/Learn-About-Mitt/Photo-Album/Romney-As-Governor/Governor_Romneyxs_Accomplishments

I love it when conservatives argue over who is "the most" conservative. Actually, the only real conservative in the race this year is Ron Paul. He wants to ABOLISH the IRS (which Mitt and his types would hate because they'd have nowhere to hide). Paul also wants to cut spending across the board -- sorry, but no corporate welfare either, folks. So, put your money where your mouth is, Republicans, and support the only true fiscal conservative in the race. You won't, of course, because without the IRS, Republicans would have very little to whine about.

Excuse me, but how is Mittens "strong in the defense" area? He has no military experience, got out of the draft by spending time working for his church in France (!), has zero foreign policy experience, and has said that "their are plenty of people at the State Department" to advise him. His sons didn't serve either - but as Mitt explained, they do serve their country by supporting him for President! Oh, and his first action after being confronted by a threat from Iran? Call his lawyers. Mitt's version of the Republican stool has only one good leg - the economic one. The military leg is missing, and the social one is wobbly after all the twists and turns he has put it through. No thanks!

You know, there are some of us Republicans who actually think global warming is real and we like the world to still be around for our grandchildren. John McCain is the ONLY Republican candidate who has a plan to combat global warming. Put that together with his strong military background, and it's the reason why he has my vote and I am sure there are many like me out there. Preserving "The American Way of Life" and perserving "Life Itself" should be paramount over any other "conservative" issue.

Economic troubles reflect on the Democratic Congress that failed to enact tax reform, increased the minimum wage (notice, as predicted, job growth is slowin), and increased regulations on businesses. As baby bombers are retiring, still no SS or Medicare/caid reform. No solution to the deficit. More spending. The one issue Dems had is gone, Iraq. No one can keep their head in the sand and say the new plan isn't working.

Democrats have accomplished nothing positive and contributed significant negatives. It's going to take the same solution that got us out of the Clinton mess of the late 1990s - tax cuts, the JFK/Reagan way. With an approval rating lower than Bush's, lower than the 06s pubbies, the Democrat Congress better beging the search for new "leaders" b/c the two clowns they put in are finished.

So let me get this right..... Romney talks about all he did for the Olympics a ways back and what he did to help out his struggling fellow elite and he's considered Mr. Fix-it... But Rudy lays out a plan for the future which he unveiled BEFORE this whole "Economy" buzz we're in now that is going to bring the US roaring back into the global economy and its called one-dimensional?!?! Apparently this guy thinks any plan which steps out of the ordinary is "one-dimensional".

What the heck is wrong with the media today... Its like they've fallen in love with Romney and McCain for licking their boots but are scorned that Rudy won't dance with them!

VOTE RUDY 2008!!!

Oh and to those who say "Romney will run the government like a business" Doesn't that remind anyone of Bush's "I'll run the country like a Harvard MBA should" speech?!?! I don't WANT government to fix everything, I want government OUT of the Way!! Vote Rudy for limited government!

No onw can beat Clinton except McCain.If you want to have the GOP retain the White House, vote for him and stop the ridiculous "he's not conservative enough for me!" Do you want to win or do you want A Clinton (2 of them) White House?
He's never flop flopped on any issues i.e. the Iraq invasion or abortion.

I don't think it's tough out here for GOP voters. We have a candidate with the intelligence and ability to turn this country around for the better. His name is Mitt Romney. I'm not worried at all. He is the candidate for the job, and he has my vote for President of the United States of America.

I don't think it's tough out here for GOP voters. We have a candidate with the intelligence and ability to turn this country around for the better. His name is Mitt Romney. I'm not worried at all. He is the candidate for the job, and he has my vote for President of the United States of America.

Actually, I'd vote for McCain over Hillary any day. But he's the only Republican with a realistic shot at the nomination who would get my vote. Sorry folks, but Romney is a tool. He's like John Kerry, only worse. Mitt actually has convinced HIMSELF that he hasn't flip-flopped on everything from abortion to gay rights. As for Rudy, Joe Biden was right -- every sentence Rudy speaks consists of a noun, a verb and "9/11." Very tedious. With Fred out of the race, you folks are down to John McCain if you want the votes of moderate Independents like me. Then again, maybe you'd rather "stick to principles" and lose. You know who used to do that a lot? The Democrats. They were so committed to electing liberal candidates that they only won one election between 1968 and 1988. Even Reagan knew that you could be a true idealogue and still have to compromise.

Having grown up in Massachusetts I have seen Mitt in action. Mitt spent his last 2 years in office running for president and allowed the dems to trounce us in the general election.

Massachusetts is the most liberal state in the union. So how did Mr. Conservative get elected?

Look at the party affiliation of the legislature in MA, i'll bet it is at least 80% democrat.

So how does a 'conservative' get elected in such an environment? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

McCain can no longer garner the wishy, washy independent vote. Florida only allows true Republicans to vote. McCain is done for now. Giuliani might pull it off but he has so much personal baggage that he has a slim chance going all the way. Romney has changed his position on abortion but at least admits he was wrong. Everyone has a right to change their position as long as they are honest about it. McCain isn't being honest about any of his liberal voting record. I will bet on Romney to go all the way. He is the only canidate who can tear the Democrats apart on all their Socialist agendas. The debate between Hillary and Romney will be quite entertaining.

You people crack me up. While Huckabee is continually referred to as a 'Baptist minister', NO ONE calls Romney a 'Mormon Bishop' in charge of 3,000 congregationalists. This man actually BELIEVES his leader in SLC talks to God directly - and there is no such thing as Hell - and he can point to the star where God lives with his other God buddies - and he is working diligently toward becoming a God Himself. HE CANNOT DENY THESE THINGS as he would then be a Liar. Wake up, people. This is not the man you think.

Those who know him vote for him, in droves. Mitt is the real deal, possibly the most talented leader seen in a generation. He has the intellectual curiosity, data-driven decision making and conservative moorings to do great things without sacrificing principle. Don't buy into the caricature certain elements are trying to foist upon America. Those that know him, really know him, vote for him in droves. Witness MI and NV. You can't say that for John McCain or Rudy. Vote Mitt!!!

I dont know who that ignorant fool was, but he has no idea what the mormons believe and nor does he have the culture to recognize the principles and values that this great country was built upon. If a candidates faith is a determining factor in our vote, then we have drifted so far from the founding fathers idealogy that we dont even deserve a democratic society anymore.I am ashamed of the hypocritical and pharisaical "religous right" who not only continually embarrass themselves, but also all GOPs and the whole american society.

"conservative moorings"
DIRECT FROM THE ANGEL MORONI !!!
"those who know him" - must all be Mormons, or maybe they're just ignorant.

knielson,
I not only know what Mormons believe - I am an Aaronic priest from the Oakland temple. YOU do not know what Mormons believe, fool. Try reading the book of Mormon. That should keep you out of the way for a while.

"Those who know him vote for him, in droves"

Exactly what I have been saying......all the leftist here in Massachussets have been 'voting for him in droves'!

Since the entire world seems to be gloriously ignorant here, let me take a moment to educate you on one of the main Mormon points (the other ten subjects will have to wait). Christians, generally, believe in a life after death. Mormons believe in pre-existence wherein we made certain choices before we came to this earth. What does this mean? It means WE made certain decisions as to whether we would come here as perhaps a woman, or a Black person. In other words, WE decide to come here as a lesser being. For decades this policy has been used to make it 'okay' to persecute Blacks - or belittle women. Simply put - They asked for it.
Any 'recovering' Mormon can witness these facts. Pre-existence is a foundational belief in LDS.


This is one Florida Conservative Republican voting for McCain. For those not living in the State of Florida the turnout will be very heavy. We have a Property Tax amendment on the ballot. This will bode well for McCain. According to ARG McCain is up 7 points and Survey USA up 5.

Latest Poll ARG Poll from Florida January 20-21

Florida
Republicans Jan 20-21

Giuliani 16%
Huckabee 17%
Keyes 1%
McCain 29%
Paul 6%
Romney 22%
Thompson 6%
Undecided 3%

I dont usually comment in these things but as a former mormon i have to say pmichael knows what hes talking about here and knielson is the fool. Salt Lake City leading this country is truly scary

I agree with pmichael. This is somehow being compared to JFK and Vatican City ruling our country. EXCUUUSE ME?? Last time I checked, Vatican City isn't in this country. Salt Lake City certainly IS! People need to wake up to this strange group and their underground archives for the end of the world and their Jesus will return to Missouri and their 'you CHOSE to be Black and persecuted' and every other lunatic notion these people have. WAKE UP PEOPLE! YOU are being made a fool of - and YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO QUESTION IT.

Mitt Romney = FLIP FLOPPER DELUXE!

Mitt Romney; "We Cannot Be A Bilingual Nation"

Well folks, looks like Mitt Romney has flipped...AGAIN!

Romney Also Goes to Spanish Ads in Florida

http://blog.thehill.com/2008/01/21/romney-too-goes-to-spanish-ads-in-florida/

This guy will say ANYTHING. This tells me he holds no deep CONVICTIONS and will surely FLIP FLOP again if ...GOD FORBID...he were to make into the WH!

McCain / Huckabee would make a great ticket. They could beat the Clinton machine. McCain has experience and a mind of his own. Independents like him which is necessary to win. Huckabee is also a "maverick" candidate. He must know something about business. Look how far he's gotten for the little money he's spent (compare that to what the "business genuis" Mitt has spent for where he is now).
McCain / Huckabee have solid pro life records and believe in a strong military. Some people may laugh at the "Fair Tax" idea but it has a lot of appeal to middle and lower America. Huckabee is reasonably young and healthy (important for a VP with an older President). Thompsons out now, Rudy's values are just too liberal, Mitt comes across as pandering and has the flip flop label sticking to him and Paul isn't even remotely electable.

Well, this is fascinating. Watching Obama and Clinton flapping baby insults at each other doesn't compare with the vitriol in the Republican race, with supporters of candidates brandishing meat-cleavers and snarling at each other like un-doctored tom-cats.

Who ever wins the Republican race will come out of it dripping blood like one of Sweeney Todd's witless victims.

Keep it up guys, haven't enjoyed myself so much for ages; not since the last time GWB spoke in public, guess I must be a fan of low comedy.

Malcolm

Whats more fascinating is how the media is overhyping the potential of bad news out of th eeconomy whiel blatanly donwplaying the news of Iraq.

I wonder why that is...

Brian,
I assume you mean the BAD news ...
Tuesday morning in Iraq, a suicide bomber walked into a school in downtown Baquba and detonated his payload, killing a guard and wounding 20 students and teachers. Baquba, a city of 200,000, is the capital of the key Diyala Province that lies between Baghdad and Iran. It is a mixed province, some 60% Sunni Arab but with substantial Shiite and Kurdish populations. A Shiite provincial government and police rule the province.

A suicide bomber attempted to assassinate the security deputy of Salahuddin Province on Monday, blowing himself up inside a tent set up for a local wake, which the security official was attending. He escaped, but the bomb killed at least 18 and wounded 20 among the 70 mourners gathered on the occasion.

Meanwhile, Patrick Cockburn of The Independent reports that 278 persons were killed or wounded in the millenarian uprising this weekend in Basra and Nasiriya.
He observes,
' It is a measure of the lack of information on what is happening outside central Baghdad that casualty figures vary widely with one source claiming that 97 died and 217 were wounded in Basra alone. '
What is clear is that Iraq is extremely violent and unstable and that there is no discernible political progress.

The Republican Party is going to have to get back to basics, or there won't be one...

Simple as that.

Maybe all of you should read the articles on RealClearMarkets.com in conjunction with those posted on realclearpolitics.com and you'd understand better that none of the candidates - GOP or DEMS have a real clue about economics. The only one with a good idea is Huckabee with the Fair Tax plan. The rest are just demagogues and mumble their way through with dumb plans and never address the real underlining policy issues that are causing all the economic issue we see. Its the Tax Code stoopids! Abolish the IRS - that is whats messing the economy up for all. I'm not supporting Huckabee; but the Fair tax is the first good idea we have had in a long time that takes the taxation power of gov't out of the equation and forces them to look more at how they spend, thats the real issue. McCain is the only one who truly has been fighting to clean up gov't waste for years, but he blew it when he hooked up with his buddy Feingold and his gang of 14 - People dont trust him. Rudy is a player that is just another member of the big boys club a la any another Senator that ever runs for president (NYC Mayor is equivalent to being elected senator). Romney I applaud for his business acumen, but he had the personality of robot and has no foreign policy or military experience. Who'd I forget... yes Ron Paul - he should just hook up with Kucinich and tilt at all the windmills they want to build behind the wall they throw up around America as they isolate us from the rest of the worlds affairs. Where does that leave us.... still looking for someone to actually make good points and stand up for something in a coherent manner. My vote goes to the first one who calls Hillary a out as the socialist beyotch she is in public and starts tearing the Dems apart for their ridiculous policy plans that the media is letting them air freely in public with out a challenge!

"back to basics"
Like telling the truth as you see it? ... and never wavering from your core beliefs? ... no matter who the f**k disagrees ??
WELCOME, John McCain.
You are SO needed.

Amazing how jerks turn this website into hate Mormon propaganda. A bunch of silly innaccurate comments. pmichael, that was a good try saying you were a Priest from the Oakland Temple. As if the Oakland Temple had Priests from it.

Looks like you folks need a little guidance:

Which candidate do you have (clue: there is only one) that would stick to this oath?

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

(emphasis on "Constitution")

"He also wants to reduce taxation on investment, which would arguably increase savings, which is kind of the opposite of a stimulus package.)"

Wow, what an out-to-lunch comment in otherwise interesting column!

Increasing business investment is highly stimulative. What you are spouting is discredited Keynesian orthodoxy that got dumbed down by politicians over the years into the lie that 'stimulus' meant spending stimulus only. The Reagan supply-side tax cuts debunked that myth (and many other examples of supply-side success from Ireland to New Zealand besides that).

What Romney proposes is stimulative because investment flows are leading factor in economic recovery. Higher investments mean more jobs, more production and a better competitive position that keeps companies and jobs in the US. Far better than our already over extended fed govt printing more money or trying to keep the bubble inflated with cheap money.

What Romney outlined in his Detroit speech, tax rates cuts, deregulation, working between washington and the industry to get moving forward, saying no to unfunded mandates and mccain-lieberman like regulations, etc. is the right prescription. A similar 'workout' for the banks and mortgage industry, that is *not* a bailout, is something Romney could be very good at.

Romney is by FAR the best candidate from either party who is ready and able to navigate us through the tricky economic difficulties we face right now.

I think the economy will be the most important issue in the November election. That said, I think Romney is best candidate. I will be voting for him.

P.S.

Please don't shoot the messenger...

It's all about the Benjamin's! You have two well funded democrats and only Romney can make it to the tape for the red team. No President has been an only child. Sorry Rudy. I am from Arizona but McCain is just too old. He will look like a fossil against the wicked witch of the East or Obama. If you are voting based solely on website. Obama is the new President. Makes Mitt's site look like an old timer threw it together. Will be fun to watch! It's fun already!

Nobody knows what McCain will do as President with regards to AMNESTY! He just talks about securing the borders but won't talk about his plan to grant AMNESTY to ILLEGAL ALIENS (many of them criminals and very dangerous - just check the news everyday). McCain tried to have the bill he hatched with the Democrats passed in the dark of night. McCain has pandered to the Left too many times. He is not a conservative and has no real plan to rescue our economy. The surge in Iraq is already in place. Safeguards against Terror are already in place,....McCain's foreign policy experience is not important. Romney or Guiliani can keep America on the right path. Romney or Guiliani understand the ecomony and WON'T COMPROMISE THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. McCain is a few years away from retirement. He could not beat a much younger Democrat in the general election. Save America! VOTE AGAINST MCCAIN-ESTY!

This article seems to imply that an economic down-turn spells trouble for conservatives; but why?
Gov. Mitt Romney has ALL the makings of a future president.
First, no Senator since JFK has been elected President. Gov. Romney brings not just the "outsider" view that the national electorate wants as they had in Carter, Reagan, and W. Bush, but outsider experience as well. He is a multi-multi-millionaire having run two successful businesses of his own! And like Reagan and George W. Bush, Romney has also successfully run a STATE (and not just a state but the blue-est of "blue states" - MA).
Second, like Reagan, Romney is running on a Pro-American, optimistic economic message. This is a message that the voters have longed to hear.
Third, unlike ANY of his Republican rivals, Romney is a true conservative who is electable in a general election.
Fourth, to this point, Mitt has won the most STATES, the most DELEGATES, and the most VOTES amongst the Republicans. This illustrates the fact that Republican voters want him as their nominee against Hillary (or Obama).
And Fifth (maybe most importantly), Romney has the capability to outspend all of the other candidates. As a result, he can get his message out to as many voters as possible. His creation of strong organizations in states throughout the country will help him not only in the primaries but in the general election as well.
The bottom line is that our economy is in trouble and Mitt Romney is a true conservative with real business experience and a sound economic plan. He should be the Republican candidate. Let the nation decide between him and the democrats in Nov!

"a good try saying you were a Priest from the Oakland Temple"
Wow did someone really reveal they know NOTHING about LDS? Thank you for showing how ignorant you actually are. Go do some research before you make such stupid comments. The priesthood is quite sacred in the Mormon church - as are the Bishops, like Mitt Romney.
Welcome, "hmmm"
I certainly understand why you don't use your real name.

Pmichael is certainly correct in this case. Some people in this forum don't understand the word 'cult'. Mitt Romney is a member of a religious cult that cannot stand scrutiny - in fact - WILL NOT EVEN ACCEPT QUESTIONS. Anyone who thinks this is 'cool' (see hmm and others) ... is a fool ... or worse, a blind fool.

To discriminate against someone's religion is just as bad as racism or sexism. You'd think both Democrats and Republicans would've overcome their biases by now. This isn't the year 1700, it's 2008 and you all should've learned by now to eliminate the politics of fear and hatred. Kennedy helped Americans overcome their fear of his Catholicism. Let's judge our candidates by their characters and records, not the color of their skin, their sex, or their religion. I am ashamed that people are using this criteria in such a negative way in modern day America.

Sort of like going through your used sock drawer - hard to find anything that matches..

Let's see...

Rudy's a bully..

Mitt's a self-serving cult member who's really, really, hung up on himself..

McCain wants to stay in Iraq for another 100 years and pay Social Security to illegals..

Huckabee eats squirrel..

Fred's out..

That leaves Ron.

No "IraqiTruth" I meant the progress being made that filth like you doesn't deem fit to acknowledge.

Rudy Giuliani is the only candidate of either party equipped to get the business of governing back in order. He will reduce the size of the Fed, get federal union members off the payroll, cut spending, cut taxes, and most importantly WIN THE WAR! He will also end illegal immigration.

VOTE RUDY!


THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
by Ann Coulter
January 16, 2008

Unluckily for McCain, snowstorms in Michigan suppressed the turnout among Democratic "Independents" who planned to screw up the Republican primary by voting for our worst candidate. Democrats are notoriously unreliable voters in bad weather. Instead of putting on galoshes and going to the polls, they sit on their porches waiting for FEMA to rescue them.

In contrast to Michigan's foul weather, New Hampshire was balmy on primary day, allowing McCain's base -- Democrats -- to come out and vote for him.

Assuming any actual Republicans are voting for McCain -- or for liberals' new favorite candidate for us, Mike Huckabee -- this column is for you.

I've been casually taking swipes at Mitt Romney for the past year based on the assumption that, in the end, Republicans would choose him as our nominee. My thinking was that Romney would be our nominee because he is manifestly the best candidate.

I had no idea that Republican voters in Iowa and New Hampshire planned to do absolutely zero research on the candidates and vote on the basis of random impulses.

Dear Republicans: Please do one-tenth as much research before casting a vote in a presidential election as you do before buying a new car.

One clue that Romney is our strongest candidate is the fact that Democrats keep viciously attacking him while expressing their deep respect for Mike Huckabee and John McCain.

This point was already extensively covered in Chapter 1 of How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must): Never take advice from your political enemies.

Turn on any cable news show right now, and you will see Democratic pundits attacking Romney, calling him a "flip-flopper," and heaping praise on McCain and Huckleberry -- almost as if they were reading some sort of "talking points."

Doesn't that raise the tiniest suspicions in any of you? Are you too busy boning up on Consumer Reports' reviews of microwave ovens to spend one day thinking about who should be the next leader of the free world? Are you familiar with our "no exchange/no return" policy on presidential candidates? Voting for McCain because he was a POW a quarter-century ago or Huckabee because he was a Baptist preacher is like buying a new car because you like the color.

The candidate Republicans should be clamoring for is the one liberals are feverishly denouncing. That is Mitt Romney by a landslide.

New York Times columnist Frank Rich says Romney "is trying to sell himself as a leader," but he "is actually a follower and a panderer, as confirmed by his flip-flops on nearly every issue."

But Rich is in a swoon over Huckabee. I haven't seen Rich this excited since they announced "Hairspray" was coming to Broadway.

Rich has continued to hyperventilate over "populist" charmer Huckabee even after it came to light that Huckabee had called homosexuality an "abomination." Normally, any aspersions on sodomy or any favorable mentions of Christianity would lead to at least a dozen hysterical columns by Frank Rich.

Rich treated Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ" as if it were a Leni Riefenstahl Nazi propaganda film. (On a whim, I checked to see if Rich had actually compared Gibson to Riefenstahl in one of his many "Passion" reviews and yes, of course he had.)

Curiously, however, Huckabee's Christianity doesn't bother Rich. In column after column, Rich hails Huckabee as the only legitimate leader of the Republican Party. This is like a girl in high school who hates you telling you your hair looks great.

Liberals claim to be enraged at Romney for being a "flip-flopper." I've looked and looked, and the only issue I can find that Romney has "flipped" on is abortion. When running for office in Massachusetts -- or, for short, "the Soviet Union" -- Romney said that Massachusetts was a pro-choice state and that he would not seek to change laws on abortion.

Romney's first race was against Sen. Teddy Kennedy -- whom he came closer to beating than any Republican ever had. If Romney needed to quote "The Communist Manifesto" to take out that corpulent drunk, all men of good will would owe him a debt of gratitude.

Even when Romney was claiming to support Roe v. Wade, he won the endorsement of Massachusetts Citizens for Life -- a group I trust more than the editorial board of The New York Times. Romney's Democratic opponents always won the endorsements of the very same pro-choice groups now attacking him as a "flip-flopper."

After his term as governor, NARAL Pro-Choice America assailed Romney, saying: "(A)s governor he initially expressed pro-choice beliefs but had a generally anti-choice record. His position on choice has changed. His position is now anti-choice."

Pro-abortion groups like the Republican Majority for Choice -- the evil doppelganger to my own group, Democratic Majority for Life -- are now running videos attacking Romney for "flip-flopping" on abortion.

Of all the Republican candidates for president, Romney and Rudy Giuliani are the only ones who had to be elected in pro-choice districts. Romney governed as a pro-lifer and has been viciously attacked by pro-abortion groups.

By contrast, Giuliani cleverly avoids the heinous "flip-flopper" label by continuing to embrace baby-killing. (Rudy flip-flops only on trivial matters like illegal immigration and his own marital vows.)

And, of course, Romney is a Mormon. Even a loser Mormon like Sen. Harry Reid claims to be pro-life. So having a candidate with a wacky religion isn't all bad.

At worst, Romney will turn out to be a moderate Republican -- a high-IQ, articulate, moral, wildly successful, moderate Republican. Of the top five Republican candidates for president, Romney is the only one who hasn't dumped his first wife (as well as the second, in the case of Giuliani) -- except Huckabee. And unlike Huckabee, Romney doesn't have a son who hanged a dog at summer camp. So there won't be any intern issues and there won't be any Billy Carter issues.

It's also possible that Romney will turn out to be a conservative Republican -- at least more conservative than he was as governor of Massachusetts. Whatever problems Romney's Mormonism gives voters, remember: Bill Clinton came in third in heavily Mormon Utah in 1992.

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Brian, calling someone you disagree with 'filth' doesn't change the facts. Let's see, here. What could we have done with the money the Shrub spent on Iraq?

Eliminate extreme poverty around the world (cost $135 billion in the first year, rising to $195 billion by 2015.)

Achieve universal literacy (cost $5 billion a year.)

Immunize every child in the world against deadly diseases (cost $1.3 billion a year.)

Ensure developing countries have enough money to fight the AIDS epidemic (cost $15 billion per year.)

In other words, for a cost of $156.3 billion this year alone – less than a tenth of the total Iraq war budget – we could lift entire countries out of poverty, teach every person in the world to read and write, significantly reduce child mortality, while making huge leaps in the battle against AIDS, saving millions of lives.

We'd still have a bunch of money left.
Oh yeah. Iraq was an intelligent move.
In your dreams, Brian.

IraqiTruth,
Brian seems to have left the building - going somewhere where they believe his nonsense, I'm sure. But using AIDS relief isn't a great argument with that kind of person. According to them, AIDs people deserve what they get (ask Ronald Reagan) - so one red cent on that project is a waste of money.
It's really sad.

Ron Paul's Economic Stimulus Plan:

www.RonPaul2008.com/Prosperity

Ron Paul's Six Point Immigration Plan:

www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/


Does anyone else even have a plan?