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A Clinton Mailer In Arizona
05 Feb 2008 10:37 am
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Dick Head Flatts: Don't you ever get tired of being such an asshole?
But Michelle Obama has been pushing dog whistle dirty politics, kenny-boy.
Michelle's Dog Whistle dirty politics? Really?
1) have more than 5% of americans even heard Michelle Obama speak?
2) i missed the dog whistle whenever it was sounded, and i have listened to her speak and am predisposed to hear a whistle
3) would the dog whistle dirty politics be worse than Bill's Fog Horn?
Dickie - Yeah, her glaring omission of Obama's plan to cut taxes on the middle class and her inability to describe how she'll freeze mortgage rates for five years is certainly "good" and "clean".
This is great and is factual...could have when further to state that Obama has his own "ENRON" with "EXELON" http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?_r=1&em&ex=1202101200&en=f2853a7f59384438&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin and then there are the Obamas Slumlord dealings with REZKO -- http://i.abcnews.com/Blotter/Story?id=4111483&page=2
VOTE HILLARY!
One more piece of evidence of just how tight the race is today. She's put out hit pieces in Massachusetts, Oklahoma, California, Connecticut and now Arizona. I'm sure there is more elsewhere that hasn't been reported. And all of woeful distortions of his record. But we are talking about the Clintons, so one would be foolish to expect anything more.
Yes We Can Vote Democracy over Dynasty
I'm going to keep this simple and straight to the point.
If Hillary Clinton is ANYWHERE on the ticket, I will change my registration
to Independent and vote Republican for the first time in my life.
I know what some people are thinking as they read this blog..."We don't want
another Republican in the White House"..."The Republicans are far worse than
Hillary Clinton"..."Vote for the lesser of 2 evils"
I know that this thinking may sound plausible...because we have been trained
by the pundits to think this way. When we have come to the point when we are
led to choose between "the lesser of two evils" we have to come to terms of
reality that our democracy is slipping away from the true values of the
American people. If you believe this cynical view, then you're voting out of
fear instead of conviction.
We see right now that the balance of power has shifted towards the Executive
Branch when the son, George Bush 2, of a President, George Bush 1, is in the
White House.
We can't even begin to imagine how the balance of power will continue to
shift to the Executive Branch if we have 2 presidents, Bill Clinton and
Hillary Clinton, in the White House at the same time for the first time in
our history.
It strikes me in awe that people are so blind by their self-interest of
winning and in fact state their reason for voting for Hillary Clinton simply
because of having a president, Bill Clinton that already served the full 2
terms, back in the White House which would otherwise be unconstitutional.
But at the same time these same people are wide awake and realize that a 2nd
term of the Bush family was the worse thing that happened in the history of
our Democracy.
Let me be very clear with my view on this.
My vote will not be against Hillary Clinton.
My vote will not be against the Democratic Party.
My vote will not be for the Republican Party.
My vote is bigger than Barack Obama.
My vote is for Democracy over Dynasty.
Too many times we have seen our "loyal" vote taken for granted by the
Democratic Party, as well as, the Republican Party. So I say here today...
My vote is not going to be a Democratic vote.
My vote is not going to be a Republican vote.
My vote will be an American vote for justice, peace and prosperity of
Democracy.
America, we have the chance to lead the world in setting aside the
Ideological, Partisan, and the Dynastical mind set that is so deeply rooted
in Politics perpetuated by the Main Stream Media. The leaders around the
world will begin to see that YES WE CAN win by uniting people across gender,
religion and race.
Because I stand for Democracy over Dynasty...because I'm an American before
I'm a Democrat...I will be force to change my registration to an Independent
to send a clear message to the Democratic Party that my vote will never
again be taken for granted.
I ask all that agree with this blog to unite on this message of Democracy
over Dynasty. Let's unite in one voice and send this message to every blog
around the world...Every article that is written...Every Radio
Station...Every TV Station.
YES WE CAN VOTE DEMOCRACY OVER DYNASTY.
If we do this America, Barack Obama will shock the world with the Audacity
of Hope.
Go Hillary!
McCain '08
A moratorium on home foreclosures is the worst idea I've ever heard. The unintended consequences would be catastrophic. It would devastate the mortgage finance market, making it much more difficult for people to obtain mortgages, buy homes and stave off foreclosure. Hillary wants to turn the worst housing slump since the Great Depression into the worst housing slump since 19th century Norway. Joke.
And the negative stuff- quintessential Clinton. But it won't stop them from whining every time Obama draws a comparison on the issues. She'd be a travesty for the country.
Dan,
And the negative stuff- quintessential Clinton. But it won't stop them from whining every time Obama draws a comparison on the issues. She'd be a travesty for the country.
What the hell?! "Negative" stuff: are they facts or not? When does she ever whine when drawing comparison on the issues? And how would she be a "travesty" for the country in comparison to McCain? How?
Good God. I've never met so many Drama Queens in my entire life than the Obama supporters. He'll win today; relax. No need to get hysterical.
Notice how sly the Clinton campaign is. These attacks are always mailed out in the 11th hour, so that the Obama campaign will not have time to hit back.
I sure hope that the voters will try to be informed enough to reject negative Clinton tactics.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/stacking_the_deck.html
From FactCheck.org of the Annenberg Public Policy Center after the Dem Las Vegas debate:
Hillary's Oil Slick, Again
Obama and Clinton dueled over the 2005 energy bill, but Clinton once again painted a false picture of what the measure contained. She continued to repeat her misleading claim that it had "enormous giveaways to the oil and gas industries," when in fact it resulted in a net increase in taxes on oil and gas companies.
Clinton: Well, Tim, I think it's well accepted that the 2005 energy bill was the Dick Cheney lobbyist energy bill. It was written by lobbyists. It was championed by Dick Cheney. It wasn't just the green light that it gave to more nuclear power. It had enormous giveaways to the oil and gas industries. ... It was the wrong policy for America. It was so heavily tilted toward the special interests that many of us, at the time, said, you know, that's not going to move us on the path we need, which is toward clean, renewable green energy.
This is the third time we've pointed out Clinton's distortion of this legislation. She is continuing a bogus line of attack that we debunked when Democrats deployed it widely in the 2006 congressional elections. While it's true that Republican lawmakers had once considered large tax breaks for oil and gas companies in the bill, the biggest of them had been stripped out of the bill by the time it passed.
Once again, it’s true that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 contained $14.3 billion in tax breaks, but most of them weren't for the oil and gas industry. They went mainly to electric utilities for such things as incentives for new transmission lines and "clean coal" facilities, and also for incentives for alternative fuels research and subsidies for energy efficient cars and homes.
According to the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the bill did give $2.6 billion in tax breaks for oil companies, but what Clinton fails to acknowledge is that those breaks were more than offset by $2.9 billion in tax increases. The net result was a $300 million tax increase over 11 years on oil and gas companies.
Obama was closer to the truth when he said the 2005 bill (which he supported) was "the largest investment in clean energy ... that we had ever seen."
Obama: Well, the reason I voted for it [the 2005 energy bill] was because it was the single largest investment in clean energy – solar, wind, biodiesel – that we had ever seen. And I think it is – we talked about this earlier – if we are going to deal with our dependence on foreign oil, then we're going to have to ramp up how we're producing energy here in the United States.
We don't know offhand whether there have been bigger tax breaks for clean energy in the past, but the 2005 bill certainly contained a lot of incentives aimed at clean energy and conservation. At the time the bill was being considered, the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation estimated that it included $1.6 billion for "clean coal" facilities and $1.3 billion in incentives for alternative fuels such as biodiesel and incentives for buying alternative vehicles in the form of a tax credit. The bill also contained just under $1.3 billion for energy conservation incentives, including tax credits for homeowners who install certain energy-saving equipment or businesses that install stationary microturbine power plants.
Hillary is playing some DIRTY politics! Its actually a bit pathetic that someone with so much name recognition has to stup SOO very LOW! I mean come on! "A TRILLION DOLLARS" ?!?!?! Really? I HIGHLY doubt that in fact Im absolutly sure Obama has NEVER said anything like that!
as well as Dick Cheney's energy bill actually taxed oil companys and created spending for alternative fuel (I hate Dick Cheney but the bill was actually a good thing and its a good thing that Obama had the foresight to realize the potential for the bill and vote for it)!
Hilary is playing some nasty politics and the last thing we need is another lieing Clinton as the president!
Someone asked, "Are they 'facts?'"
According to FACTCHECK.ORG, an INDEPENDENT analysis of this Arizona mailer concluded that "...Clinton campaign twists Obama’s words and gives a false picture of his proposals..."
Hillary supporters (an anyone else that wants to feel ill), read all about it here:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers_1.html
Here's the point: Arizona is FILLED with senior citizens... namely elderly white seniors who received these lies @ 11:59 and voted overwhelmingly Clinton.
WHEN WILL WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH?
The sooner we can collectively come together to answer that question...
The sooner we end the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton monarchies.
America deserves better.
~ corbet dean
Someone asked, "Are they 'facts?'"
According to FACTCHECK.ORG, an INDEPENDENT analysis of this Arizona mailer concluded that "...Clinton campaign twists Obama’s words and gives a false picture of his proposals..."
Hillary supporters (an anyone else that wants to feel ill), read all about it here:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers_1.html
Here's the point: Arizona is FILLED with senior citizens... namely elderly white seniors who received these lies @ 11:59 and voted overwhelmingly Clinton.
WHEN WILL WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH?
The sooner we can collectively come together to answer that question... the sooner we end the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton monarchies.
America deserves better.
~ corbet dean
When discussing the tactics each candidate utilizes to deliver the "facts" on their opponent, be sure to bring your Clinton supporting "friends" to this site to analyze how she managed her % of victory in Arizona.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/youve_got_mailers_1.html
Who is this mtthomas fellow/girl? Such idealism! My oh my. This person should never vote.
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Looks fair and above board. Good clean politics.
Unlike the dog whistle variety Michelle Obama has been pushing.
Posted by Dickie Flatts | February 5, 2008 11:03 AM