Said Hillary Clinton today:
“We’ve seen the tragic results of having a president who didn’t have neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security. We can’t let that happen again.”
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Clinton: Obama Is To Foreign Policy As Bush Was To Foreign Policy
25 Feb 2008 01:17 pm
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Speaking in double negatives is no way not to lose the nomination.
We can’t let that happen again.
Which is why Democrats (let alone Republicans) are recoiling at your candidacy, and why you will be out of the race come next Wednesday. March 5th can't get here fast enough.
My thoughts exactly...I imagine she didn't mention what happens when the president doesn't have a firm grasp on the english language...
And these were prepared remarks?! Yeesh!
Is this the same wisdom and experience that led her to vote for the invasion of Iraq?
I see where she's going with this criticism, but there's nothing to it. Obama is a relatively young legislator, but accomplished for his age and tenure. I'm not aware of anything in his record that suggests a glaring lack of wisdom or experience in the field of foreign policy, or that he'll surround himself with an incompetent team. (Hillary on the other hand ... )
Bush (now that we're evidently comparing fellow Democrats to the president) was not only a failed businessman, but received exactly nothing in the way of executive experience from his tenure as the powerless governor of Texas. Seriously, look it up -- it's an astoundingly weak office. In Texas, Lt. Gov. is where it's at.
She is referring to herself, right? Like how she voted for invading Iraq? Definitely can't let that happen again...thanks for the suggestion Senator Clinton!
Oh, please let her go there in tomorrow's debate. Please with sugar on top.
and it's Obama supporters that are delusional?
How Rovian. Attack your opponent (Obama) for his strength (foreign policy judgment) in order to deflect attention away from your own weaknesses (bad calls on Iraq and Iran).
So does that mean she would follow Obama into war too? How can she claim her opponent is Bush or Bush-like when she voted for Iraq and for the steps to go to Iran, while Obama opposed these things?
What wisdom led her to authorize Iraq? She disqualified herself from being president because of that vote.
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...and why you will be out of the race come next Wednesday. March 5th can't get here fast enough.
I agree. When Hillary wins three out of four contests next Tuesday, the stage will be set for her to roar back to the nomination. The Obama backlash is already starting: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/24/barackobama.hillaryclinton
Obama backlash, eh?
Like the backlash in Texas, where he is now up by 5 points in the latest ARG poll? or perhaps you would prefer to look at the average polling chart at pollster.com and see how that state is working out for HRC?
Read a little closer Oisac. Hillary is toast already, but next Tuesday will be the boot to the throat that her campaign has long since deserved.
Yes, Obama's backlash has begun, but it's still nothing compared to the entire country recoiling from HRC once they got up close with her again this campaign season and were reminded of how awful she is.
Clinton showed incredibly poor judgement when she voted to send our troops into Iraq.
Iraq has been a disaster. Almost 4,000 American soldiers dead, almost one TRILLION tax dollars lining the coffers of Bush, Cheney, Haliburton, and thousands of innocent Iraqis killed.
The American public was LIED TO and FOOLED and so was Hillary Clinton.
Barack Obama showed superior judgement by being against the Iraq invasion and war on DAY 1.
Hillary Clinton will be laughed at if she were to command the withdrawal in Iraq because she was the one who sent our soldiers in to die FOR NOTHING.
Barack Obama is the only one who has any clout to lead the end of the Iraq War.
Hillary and her minions are seriously fucked up. People like that are the breed in America I absolutely cannot stand - self important, unethical, Machiavellian, blowhard, ass clowns. Having one live next door or as a colleague is bad enough. As President and her advisers is like a Twilight Zone nightmare that you can't wake up from.
These arguments about experience and military know-how won't work at all if she ends up running against John McCain.
Hillary, is not ready to be Commander in Chief. Not ready to lead and most importantly not ready on day one. Look at how she ran her campaign and you can see how her white house will be like. There will be mixed messages, no clear leader and no orginization. The economic proposals will be very much like Bush because she will put out her plan and say it is a "core democratic" issue and who ever does not agree or vote for it will be demonized and smeared. Hillarys foreign policy will be a continuation of Bush foreign policy and we will go into war with Iran.
Vote Obama08
Hillary, is not ready to be Commander in Chief. Not ready to lead and most importantly not ready on day one. Look at how she ran her campaign and you can see how her white house will be like. There will be mixed messages, no clear leader and no orginization. The economic proposals will be very much like Bush because she will put out her plan and say it is a "core democratic" issue and who ever does not agree or vote for it will be demonized and smeared. Hillarys foreign policy will be a continuation of Bush foreign policy and we will go into war with Iran.
Vote Obama08
The assumption Hillary makes that, just because she is 60 and Barack Obama is 47, she has more experience is a joke. She's only been around longer. She didn't do her homework before she cast her vote for the Iraq war, meaning that she was lazy and wrong. She has shown in the way she's managed her campaign that she is as 'thick as a plank' when it comes to intuition and leadership --- and as arrogant as George W. Bush. Read Frank Rich's "The Audacity of Hopelessness" in yesterday's NYT. Go home Hillary. Please.
I don't get it. Hillary has experience? What experience? What has she REALLY done in her 8 years.
It's already been pointed out that she blew both the Iraq and Iran votes. What has she done in terms of foreign policy that's had any real impact?
Healthcare? Her one shot at that was a disaster, so bad that it set the issue back by an entire generation. She's again trying to overreach on the same issue. And now she's pathetically whining when Obama confronts her point by point on the issue?
Mortgage mess? She wants the gov't to put a 5 year moratorium on the private and legal contracts between lenders and buyers. Forcing mortgage companies to retain introductory rates for years is simply taking money from their pockets to buy some votes.
What substantial legislation, foreign policy or domestic, has she actually gotten passed in 8 years of being in the Senate?
Experience? Not so much. Bill Clinton addressed types of experience effectively when he was running. It's so apropos of Hillary.
Even with huge institutional advantages, she's losing for one reason and one reason only. She's a weak candidate.
It occurs to me that even if you concede Clinton her most recent argument -- i.e. Obama is the Rovian candidate -- that hardly reflects well upon herself.
After all, hasn't she been touting herself as the only Dem candidate capable of fighting and defeating Rovian politics? And yet, faced with the "Rovian" campaign of Obama, she has no answer. Condemned by her own logic.
"Wisdom"? She's playing with fire there! LOL
It totally looks like Hillary Clinton is referring to her husband in that quote.
Lets be clear, Hillary Clinton is just as responsible for this war as Bush, but her judgment and experience, told her to trust Bush instead of listening to her constituents.
We’ve seen the tragic results of having the first female front-runner who didn’t have neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage her campaign and safeguard her political future. We can’t let that happen again until she runs for re-election in NY for her Senate seat.
Is there any chance that we'll see a shift to a slightly less biased commentator for the rest of the election? I mean honestly, what is Marc Ambinder doing to write about once he can no longer use this blog as the Atlantic Media headquarters of the Clinton campaign?
One word - IRAN
The Iraq vote I can forgive. The Iran vote sealed her fate.
“We’ve seen the tragic results of having a president who [had] neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security.”
Hillary butchers syntax on a constant basis. That "you know" device of hers that everyone (hopefully) outgrows by age seventeen, really is the kicker. Small wonder the woman writes none of her own books. Lazy, lazy diction. I met with world leaders today and, well, you know: http://theseedsof9-11.com
That would be the foreign policy she supported with her votes?
My perspective as a young voter:
On the unconscious level, when the word 'experience' leaves Hillary's mouth, the word 'old' meets my ears.
Step 2, after the initial unconscious processing, is to rationalize. Presidents that were experienced? Nixon, Bush 41... Eisenhower?
Nixon '08! Ready on Day One.
Please, give me a JFK, a Lincoln, you know, a freakin Bill!
(Bill '92 that is)
Yes, let's really fuck it up and elect another Bush with a different color jersey.Very smart thinking.
I totally agree with her! As she voted for the war in Iraq she clearly lacks the wisdom and experience to lead the US!
Bill Clinton is a sexual predator.
Three (3) foreign policy issues were raised in the Texas debate: 1) The Iraq War; 2) The election in Pakistan; 3) The change in Cuba's dictatorship.
IRAQ - Obama opposed the Iraq War from day one, and he has a plan to get us out!
PAKISTAN - Obama warned against "putting all of our eggs in the Musharraf basket." He was right! What do we do now that Musharraf (one of the 10 worst dictators in the world, but whom we considered to be one our closest allies) is rendered powerless, Islamic Extremists are in control, and the country is likely to become a haven for Osama and his followers????
CUBA - Obama will end the era of completely ignoring our enemies, which clearly produces no positive results. He will meet without preconditions, but he will expect the "enemy" to agree in advance to discuss certain issues (i.e,. nuclear disarmament, human rights, political prisoners, etc.)
Compare Obama's POSITIONS and JUDGMENT to those of Hillary and McCain and there is no question who is qualified to lead. Hillary is a liar, and McCain actually believes that war is a natural state for our country to be in...
At all times...
At least for the next 8 years...
And probably for the next 100...
A vote for Hillary is no better than a vote for McCain, and a vote for McCain is no better than a vote for Bush!
OBAMA 08!
I could not agree more with Hillary's comments.
George Bush and Barack Obama are the flip side of the same coin.
George is inarticulate , unable to express himself well and seemingly a buffoon.
Barack is eloquent, articulate, intelligent and capable.
Both had little experience in foreign policy.
George Bush was surrounded by people to help with proper decision making which has gotten where we are now.
Barack supporters claim that he will surround himself with the right people to make the right decisions.
They are both basically at the same place - but at polar opposites
politicly.
That is why I could not support an Obama presidency. I believe that the benefit (in the U.S. and abroad) of electing the first african american president is far out weighed by the problems
that his Illinois based sense of worldliness would create.
Berkeley, CA
at this time
Lots of Obamamaniacs .
Aside from his training as a civil rights lawyer in which using proper grammer, speaking eloquently, and articulately, - is a major advantage - I do not see him having alot to bring to the table.
Berkeley, CA
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"who didn’t have neither the experience nor the wisdom"
I hope she didn't really say that because it butchers the English language. "Did NOT have NEITHER/NOR." Double negative, anyone? ugh.
Posted by evie | February 25, 2008 1:22 PM