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Los Angeles Times Poll Shows Clinton Shedding Voters

27 Feb 2008 07:51 am

Overall, the spread is Obama 48% and Clinton 42%.

Obama now runs even among women, even among those who didn't get a college degree and even among those aged 45 to 64. Clinton still runs strong among men and women over aged 65 and women who don't work. Obama wins married women by 11 points.

42% of Republicans say that Barack Obama would be the toughest candidate for John McCain to b beat in November.

The Times poll has McCain beating Clinton outside the margin of error (46% to 40%) and beating Obama by only 2 points.

So far as I can tell, the difference between the Times poll and other polls showing Obama beating McCain is that independents in the Times poll are more evenly split, where Obama, in the CBS/NYT poll, led among independents.

Comments (5)

These national polls are now meaningless as most of the country has had its chance to vote. trumpeting them previews nothing about the remaining campaign between clinton and Obama/

Hillary is basically at the point of no return now. There's o chance that she gets back all of the voters who have dumped her in the last few weeks before Ohio and Texas. Not to mention the fact that most see Obama as the presumptive nominee.

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The only reason these polls matter is the superdelegates. It probably is not lost on them that their Party is coming together behind Obama, and the head-to-heads just show that Obama's relative strength among independents makes him the stronger general election candidate (which is sorta obvious anyway, but the head-to-heads may help the math-challenged see the point).

Now if Clinton actually won the pledged delegate contest, I think she would have a good counter-argument to all this. Since she is very unlikely to do that, however, what she actually needs is a good counter-argument to the superdelegates simply going with the pledged delegate winner, meaning a good argument to the effect that the superdelegates should overrule the pledged delegates in the interests of the Party and/or in order to win the general election. Thus the relevance of these polls is that they make mincemeat out of any plausible arguments to that effect, and therefore leave Clinton with no valid case for her nomination.

If no one gets to 2025 then she still has some tug at the nomination. That they block each other is a big deal. That folks want her to give up because she can't get to 2025 without superdelegates ignores an important truth if he can't get to 2025 without superdelegates either.
If she can carry such a huge number of delegates into the convention there will have to be some consideration made, some conversations held.
She does not become just an also ran.
She'd be silly to drop out.

If Obama does win the nomination and the white house people who voted for him will be disappointed. The war in Iraq will not end as the problem will resolve only when the oil runs out. The US economy never prepared itself for a down turn as the rest of the world gets more prosperous. Nafta has benefited the US more than the other two in the partnership. Illegal immigrants will bankrupt this country. Obama will be a failed president like Jack Kennedy whose success in the limited time were due to Bobby - Ed is no where near there.
Black Senators who were for Hillary are being pressured by the Obama to endorse him - Georgia voters picked Obama and Lewis switched. Massachusettes voted for Hillary - What about Kerry and Ed - must some one ask this question? The press is so pro Obama that it is a joke - I will be voting McCain if Obama is the nominee.