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Obama Campaign On "The Moment"

22 Feb 2008 11:50 am

The Obama campaign is not happy that everyone is talking about "The Moment" from last night's debate and is trying today to recenter the narrative. Here's a memo they just put out, and do note the focus on John McCain....

TO: Interested Parties

FR: Obama Campaign

RE: “The Moment” from the debate

DA: February 22, 2008

There has been a lot of discussion this morning about what “the moment” in the debate was. In our view, the moment that most clearly demonstrated the difficulty Hillary Clinton would have drawing a clear contrast with John McCain in a general election was when she, quizzically, attacked him for supporting the war in Iraq. Clinton also voted for the war. See the exchange below:

KING: Senator Clinton, as you know, I think your number was about $342 million. You say they're worthy projects, as Senator Obama did, for your state and that's part of your job, to get money for worthy projects back in your state. Senator McCain, as you know, is proud of going around the country saying he's never asked for an earmark and he will never ask for an earmark. On the specific issue of pork barrel spending, fiscal accountability by the government at a time when many Americans frankly think, whether it is the House or the Senate, that you all waste money on things that aren't important to them, don't affect their daily lives, does he have a better case to make to the American people that, "I have done this my entire career; I will do it as president," on the issue of on the issue of wasteful pork barrel spending?

CLINTON: Well, no, not at all. Because he supported the wasteful tax cuts of the Bush administration and the Iraq war, with the billions of dollars... that have been spent, and wants it to continue…

The question is: how can Senator Clinton attack Senator McCain for authorizing the war, when she cast the very same vote?

When it comes to the key issues facing the American people, Obama is the one Democrat in this race who can give voters the clearest choice in this election. Obama opposed the war in Iraq, Clinton supported it. Obama has been clear on torture, Clinton has not. Obama opposed a bankruptcy bill harmful to middle class families, Clinton supported one – yet later said she was glad it hadn’t become law. Obama opposed bad trade agreements, Clinton supported NAFTA and trade with China.

And on issue after issue – from bad trade deals to the war in Iraq – Clinton and McCain were on the same side.

The American people deserve a clear choice in this election and Barack Obama, on issue after issue against McCain, offers the opportunity to choose change we can believe in versus a third term of George Bush’s policies.

Comments (102)

Heh, Marc, I don't think you really understand what they're talking about. At the very least, your definition of "moment" is different from the common usage (and this email's usage) of "moment."

Besides, seems to me like the three big themes under discussion are:

1. "Change you can Xerox"
2. Hillary's valedictory closing
3. Debate was a tie, therefore going to the winner (i.e., Hillary didn't derail Obama's momentum)

Also, I should go ahead and mention that the focus is on McCain because for all practical purposes, McCain is Obama's rival at this point. Either McCain is going to be the nominee, or Clinton is going to destroy the Democratic Party in the process of becoming the nominee. Those are, literally, the only two possibilities at this point.

Of course, I can imagine that things seem a little different inside the Clinton echo chamber. Step outside and come visit us one of these days, Marc -- it's nice out here. :)

Whoops, typo in my post. Where I said McCain is going to be the nominee, I meant to say Obama is going to be the nominee. I really should start using that preview button...

I believe she was truly genuine, as genuine as a $3 bill. Too bad she didn’t credit John Edwards or her husband for her statement..

Looks like Hillary Xeroxed Bill Clinton's
lines to get to some sympathy votes.

Video of the Hillary Clinton use the same basic line Bill Clinton Used in 2000 and 1992.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7Cs3QvT3U

Clinton said last night “You know, the hits I've taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country. And I resolved at a very young age that I'd been blessed and that I was called by my faith and by my upbringing to do what I could to give others the same opportunities and blessings that I took for granted. That's what gets me up in the morning. That's what motivates me in this campaign.”
Bill Clinton said in 2000: “When the history of this campaign is written, they may say, well, Bill Clinton took a lot of hits in this campaign. The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits that the people in this state and this country are taking every day of their lives under this administration.”

The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits the people of New Hampshire are taking every day."

Bill Clinton
Feb 1992
Harvard Crimson

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=231808

"The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits the people of this state and this country have been taking for a long time."

Bill Clinton
November 1992
New York Times.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7DF1E3CF937A35752C1A964958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

Fact Check: Clinton denies driving Obama plagiarism charge ...Fact Check: Clinton denies driving Obama plagiarism charge, CLEVELAND.
www.examiner.com/a-1229949~Fact_Check__Clinton_denies_driving_Obama_plagiarism_charge.html -

As author Carl Bernstein stated,
"Hillary Clinton has a difficult relationship with the truth"

Isnt this the exact same thing that Bill said in the 92 election? How about she come up with her own speech. Hillary is a scumbag. "We will be ok" yeah, you have millions of dollars.

Obviously she is running a defeated campaign and she has to accept defeat once and for all. Go Obama.

Blog comment sections are going to be a lot happier after the comet comes.

On a meta note, perhaps Ambinder could consider sparing a post to highlight the fact that CNN failed to disclose a key affiliation of one of their questioners.

ONLY and I mean ONLY Obama supporters would bring down a woman trying to have some grace, in an election she is likely to loose to Mr. Obama. The mean-spirited Obama supporters forget something, we Hillary supporters have an alternative . . .

ONLY and I mean ONLY Obama supporters would bring down a woman trying to have some grace, in an election she is likely to loose to Mr. Obama. The mean-spirited Obama supporters forget something, we Hillary supporters have an alternative . . .

the "moment"????

huh?

the moment for me was when Hillary said: "I'll be okay....I just hope the country will be okay".....mmm hmmmm.....
let's all be afraid is the subtext.....which I don't see as gracious or genuine....just the same old Bush/Clinton/Cheney fear machine in the guise of experience

Yes, the Xerox comment was oh so graceful. And her call to seat the Mich & Fla delegates this AM.

But, you are right, William, for a brief moment, she was graceful. If she managed to do this more often, she might still be winning. I guess she just doesn't have it in her.

Yes, the Xerox comment was oh so graceful. And her call to seat the Mich & Fla delegates this AM.

But, you are right, William, for a brief moment, she was graceful. If she managed to do this more often, she might still be winning. I guess she just doesn't have it in her.

Video showing Clinton borrowing lines from Husband and John Edwards.Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H60y8mHMpmU

Make your own judgement!

I'm not sure I follow the close of William's double post.

Is he insinuating that Hillary supporters will vote McCain?

Is this a threat?

Has William been comatose for the duration of this campaign? Which campaign has actually been *run* with grace?

Obama's lack of experience was demonstrated by his backpedaling in his Cuba's discussion. He knew that he was naive by announcing to the world that he will meet with all leaders, bad/good, with no pre-conditions. Did you hear how he changed it last night - need an agenda, preparation, all are euphemism to say that there are pre-conditions...this is what Clinton has said all along.

This is not the first issue that he backpedalled either - he did it with his position to withdraw the troops from Iraq - his campaign said 'he reserves the right to change his mind once he gets in the office...', seems like a carte blanche for breaking any campaign promises under the umbrella "i now have more data'.

I commend him for his idealistic ideas but he does not have the experience. I don't think that he will be able to go against McCain.

Enough already about how graceful she was. I am a Hillary supporter and I hate the fact that people expect her to be graceful. That is so sexist. Why can't she be a fighter. I am not trying to elect a ballerina, but the next president of the United States. When Obama kept talking over her during their exchange on health care no one noticed that it was not so graceful of him. But he is a man, black or white, and men don't have to smile 24 hours a day and look as if they are from a 50's movie to get elected in this country.

Sexism is dead! Long live sexism!

CLINTON: "Well, no, not at all. Because he supported the wasteful tax cuts of the Bush administration and the Iraq war". She was off her game last night. Obama should be credited for the courtesy of not pouncing on Clinton's Freudian slip.

Sylvie, can you tell me whether or not Hillary has ever backpedalled on anything in her political career?

Can you name a single politician who hasn't?

And what on earth does that have to do with experience?

I'll take sound judgment over experience anyway.

But Obama has both and that is why he's the best candidate.

I am a Hillary supporter and die hard democrat and black and I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. I don't speak for anyone but myself. But we already have a president in office that thinks that he can walk on water. He too was elected as a unifier. He too campaign in his desire to change Washington. I don't need another Saint in the White House. I need a human being who doesn't think he has the power to cure our apathy by mere sight of him.

Say what you may about McCain. He is not the brightest (100 years in Iraq) but he is human and his human frailties show every day. I love him for that. When I want to elect a Saint president, I will reconsider and possibly vote for Obama. It doesn't look likely

Anyone else catch this? Apparently McCain has begun avoiding the media:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_02/013176.php

I guess this is part of his campaign's "deft" handling of the crisis.

Sylvie:

Preparation and preconditions are two entirely different things. Preconditions are things that the other side must do even before you get to the table. So for example, a precondition to meeting with Iran is that they halt their nuclear program, install certain democratic reforms, etc. That's just to sit down and start talking. Essentially, you are asking the other side to concede in exchange for a discussion.

Preparation is about establishing what the point of the meeting will be. We are going to talk about x and y. Anything outside of those two points is not on the table.

No backpeddaling, just a lot of confusion from some of the pundits on what preparation and preconditions are all about.

How well is Gov Deval doing at governing Mass. after his win using the recycled inspiring words? I was waiting for Hillary to say "On the side-by-side video, I don't know who I am running against! There are two of you!" But in the slanted media take, she would be dumped on for saying that. Only Obama can say all that is not his new is corrupt and trash, while he drapes '60's icons as his mantel of substance.

The more of theswe Obama email spin missives I see, the more I am reminded of Mitt Romney. Empty suit meet empty rhetoric.

How well is Gov Deval doing at governing Mass. after his win using the recycled inspiring words? I was waiting for Hillary to say "On the side-by-side video, I don't know who I am running against! There are two of you!" But in the slanted media take, she would be dumped on for saying that. Only Obama can say all that is not his new is corrupt and trash, while he drapes '60's icons as his mantel of substance.

Hey Jeff, did you catch this? A respected liberal gay blog is doing reporting on the guy who alleges having had gay sex and done cocaine with Obama back in the 90's. Apparently his lie detector test is scheduled for Feb. 26. I wonder how his law suit he's filed against Obama, Axelrod, and the DNC for intimidation amongst other things will play out.

Apparently Bill O'Reilly is just dying to discuss this.

http://www.towleroad.com/2008/02/right-wing-read.html

Just an FYI: You were just mentioned by Rush Limbaugh on his show.

This idea of "only mean Obama supporters" would bring down Hillary is kind of silly. I've been growing tired of the vitriolic tone that supporters of Obama and Clinton have taken, but it's hardly been one-sided.

And let's be clear: Clinton has gone far more negative in her portrayal of Obama. She has implied that Obama's supporters are delusional. These sorts of tactics do not engender you to your opponent's supporters.

I think the reason Obama supporters are responding as they are to Hillary's emotional moment is that they see it as an insincere political ploy, sort of like her "spontaneous" cry before New Hampshire. At one point in the debate, Hillary tried to score cheap political points with the lame "plagiarism" crap. And then at the end, she tried to appear gracious. The way I see it, there are three possiblilities to explain Clinton's change in tone from the middle to the end of the debate:

1. She is struggling to remain emotionally stable after a hard and grueling campaign. (And no, I don't say that because she's a woman).

2. Her gracious moment at the end was just a tactic to engender sympathy.

3. Through the course of the debate, Clinton realized she could not win, and was sincerely trying to get behind Barack.

I doubt #1 is true. Hillary is a skilled politician who rarely if ever loses control.

I also doubt #3 is true, since after appearing concilliatory at the end, the Clinton campaign sent an email to their supporters explaining to them how they were going to try to win the election by convincing Superdelegates to supercede the will of the voters.

So what we're left with is #2. I can certainly see why people would look negatively on Hillary trying to blatantly manipulate voters' emotions for political gain. Not only did she do that, but she did it using John Edwards' words, after attacking Obama for using a campaign co-chair's words.

"The mean-spirited Obama supporters forget something, we Hillary supporters have an alternative . . ."

Are you seriously making a claim that you will vote for a candidate who is on the opposite idealogical spectrum of Clinton if the opponent who shares 9x.x% of the same views as her wins the nomination?!

Wow... that's just...

...change you can [forget about].

The odds of you finding an alternative who supports Senator Clinton (to the point of being accused of 'stealing' her ideas) and who isn't Obama is slim to none.

If you know of someone else... then yeah, more power to you.

Otherwise, stop with the ridiculous threats and vote for Clinton whether she wins or loses (i.e., Obama proxy).

And for the record neither Clinton nor Obama are their supporters. Seriously... just trying to imagine the scenario you're hinting at is absurd.

Jesse, thanks for the link, good stuff. Sure looks credible! I can see why the right-wing conspiracy is sitting on it -- I can't wait until they spring these highly damaging allegations, from a totally credible non-crackpot no less, in the general election.

I would strongly encourage Mr. O'Reilly not to hold back from discussing this. Let's have a frank discussion of these issues.

Craig,

Thanks for your reply. I agree that almost, if not all, politicians backpedaling. But at least, they are 'honest' (as if there is such a thing as honest with politicians) in wearing their hat as a politician. Obama presents himself not as a politician, and paints him as if he can walk on water and holier than thou attitude.

I wish that the country just views these 3 candidates as politicians and compare them objectively instead of these headlines like 'messiah', 'cult', etc...

Just my opinion,

To Keith,

Thanks for reading and giving a nice and clear reply.

I can see your points if we are using these terms in their pure definition. Perhaps, I am bias from my living in the business world. Usually, my sales team would not take me to meet my counter part in another company until they already know that the agenda is almost all ironed out, except for perhaps a key issue here and there. The sale teams typically consider their leader as a 'tool' to help moving the other team to negotiate as much as possible before the meeting. My bias is that this is what I see as typical negotiation process, you do not want to tip your hand about what you are willing to do until necessary.

While Mr. Obama's philosophy "I will get both sides to sit down' may work in this country, but he can't expect that behavior from the rest of the world. We need to be savvy enough to both play by both their rules and our rules.

It so absurd to SEE and HEAR the deperate BIllary statements indicating that Bill Clinton is the one behind this whole thing so he can rule through Hilary. Also what goes around, comes around. Hilary found on Plagarism for her husbands words and John Edwards line. Even using lines from Barack Obama......

Their is an inevitability here, Hilary's generation is coming to a close. A generation has a 4 year span of life x 4, it has been 4x4 yrs now and it is irreversible. It is nothing Hilary has done, it is the law of God. Their is also something here that I am surprised voters have not noted. Obama is a christian (Charismatic) a pastor and he has demonstrated the christain love towards Clinton. He is operating in the law of God to love and not tear down, build and not distort. Now if you go hitting your head against the law of God in action, it says you will be hitting your head on a rock and more so you will ot prosper except you repent.

Hilary does not need to push, she just need to flow and see where he true purpose lies.

I don't know where I want to start. On Jo's comment...Coolrepublica or William. I find it funny that William called us mean spirited Obama supporters when in my Obama groups we are constantly trying to stop Hilary bashing. But what they don't see behind close doors cant change their ignorance of what they want to see. You want us to be mean spirited so you have another reason to support your candidate over ours and that's ok. I don't mind name calling. Coolrepublica... I understand your sexism comments but have you forgotten he is black? What struggles has this man had to endure. What obstacles and hoops does he have to jump everyday more than the average man because he is black. Don't want to make it about race but you are making it about sexism. Both candidates have to prove themselves more than the average. Don't downplay his struggle because you relate to hers. And finally Jo.. Vote for McCain. Be my guest! I would do the same if Hilary was to get the nomination I finally agree with a Hilary supporter. There is hope! But seriously calling Obama a saint is something you have made up in your own mind. He is no saint. He has dirt and he has grinded like the rest. He has tried to run an Honorable campaign but that is not enough. If he was dirty you would complain about that so no one will win in your eyes. Fine. But please to make a comparison about George Bush is pushing to find something cleaver to say. Ridiculous. Even Bush supporter don't think they relate or are alike in any way. I should know. My dad supports Bush! Thanks.

Just to update you Jeff, McCain had a regularily scheduled media availability in Indianapolis where he hit Obama over his position on Cuba and said he was moving on from the NYT story.

So much for the "McCain is hiding from the press because he's guilty!!" meme you were trying out.

Problem with Obama supporters is that most of them blindly support him, without caring about the issues--and being in college I have experienced it first hand--but I certainly don't mean to say that Obama hasn't talked about issues. And his foreign policy--meet anyone without preconditions--what the hell is this?

I am for Hillary and if sxshe is not the presidentaal nominee i will be voting for JOHN Mcccain.and watch what im telling you she will not throw her vote to obama .we as voter will not vote for no black that has critized and laundered mony into this country and to sell America out .so yeack yack all you want hes not going to get elected.

Impeccable sourcing. Thanks, Jesse.

Quote from Remose "we as voter will not vote for no black that has critized and laundered mony into this country and to sell America out"....

You will not vote for no black what???? (are we being a shy bit racist?)Shame Shame! When will this country just get over color?

Ignorance is bliss. Vote McCain I don't care either do Obama supporters. Who ever supports Hilary and says if Obama wins they will vote McCain! Fine do it. Who cares. Vote McCain. I'm tired of the threat! Fine cause I would do the same if Hilary won.

Moment schmoment. The idea that her closing remarks, however well crafted, suggest some larger urge to conciliation is hogwash. The idea that she will not tear the party in two to win the nomination is wishful thinking parading as analysis.

Hence her public statements today about fighting to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations.

Harley - You said it. As soon as Texans get a load of what she thinks about their vote not counting as reported today in the Texas Monthly (interview of her this morning) - all that conciliatory stuff will be seen as the shame it was. And that she's just another Slick Hilly. Hasta Luego!

we Hillary supporters have an alternative . . .

Sure, William, you have an alternative. How's this for a suggested alternative: take your threat and your balloon shaped head and stick it up your ass.

All this commentary about voting for McCain over the eventual democratic nominee makes me think that folks are not paying any attention to the debates. The differences between Obama and Clinton are mainly style, not substance. The differences between both of them and McCain are vast in every possible way. Vote on the issues, people!

adam...run along now and go study for your Sociology 101 midterm and leave the political talk to the grown ups.

B'bye.

I have been a supporter of Barack Obama since before he announced his candidacy in Springfield, IL. But I want to inform those who may think that Obama supporters are Hillary Clinton bashers or vice versa.

I've read alot on the internet about Obama over the past year, and something I've noticed. The frequent use of the term 'Billary' is something that I have only recently seen on blog comment sections. Prior to January, I seldom saw it used and it was almost never used by Obama supporters. I think it is time to make a glossary of terms that will diferentiate true Obama and/or Clinton supporters from people who only have hate in their hearts.

Exhibit A: "Billary" is a term used to smear Sen. Clinton by people who fear the notion of a strong female candidate (or people who are still suffering from Clinton derangement syndrome). Obama supporters usually address Mrs. Clinton as Sen. Clinton, Hillary, or HRC. If you see the term 'Billary' in any post, ignore the content of the comment because it will be a regurgitation of the hateful messages rampant in the blogisphere where cockroaches roam freely.

Exhibit B: "Barack Hussein Obama or (sometimes) BHO": is the name given to Sen. Obama by people who fear the notion of a strong african-american candidate. (See above for a discription of these idiots because, dollars to donuts, they are the same people) Obama supporters usually refer to Sen. Obama as Barack, Obama or Sen. Obama.

So, to recap: If you see a comment about "Obama", "Barack", "Sen. Obama", "Sen. Clinton", "Hillary", or "HRC", it is safe to read or respond to the ideas put forward in the comment. All other names/smears/bullshit is not worth your time.

Ellen: If someone refers to Hillary as a "crone" does that fall into the legitimate or illegitimate camp?

How can she sit there and talk about someone's face being disfigured when she voted for a pointless war that killed and disfigured the faces of innocentr children? Children who she never mentions. Ever.

I'm SICK & TIRED listening to Senator Clinton saying that she has this 35 years of experience and READY ON DAY ONE.

Well SHE CAN'T EVEN TAKE CHARGE OF HER OWN CAMPAIGN NOW WITH all that experience, plus having been thru 2 presidential elections of former president Clinton, and this is all she got? If you can't even get your primary (no less) presidential campaign together how do you expect to run a country? Talking about how Senator Obama is not ready, Obviously so far he's ready enough to go against the CLINTON MACHINE….

With all the good that comes from Senator Clinton experience also come a lot of bad ones. That 35 years of experience also give us the war in Iraq, No Child Left Behind, Bankruptcy Law, NAFTA, not to mention secrecy conduct that would rival President Bush. You would've known what you know now Senator Clinton if you bothered to read the NIE report, obviously those 35 years experience didn't lead you to that judgment. I don't know what kind of your own research that you did, what kind of advice that you got, those 35 years of experiences still DIDN'T LEAD YOU TO THE CORRECT ANSWER.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS HEALTHCARE STUFF, with all HER EXPERIENCES, I watched when she came out with her healthcare plans after John Edwards & Barack Obama came out with theirs almost a year ago, HER PLANS were basically IDENTICAL WITH JOHN EDWARDS'. So, now she has the nerve to say Barack Obama plagiarized Deval Patrick, WELL SENATOR CLINTON PLAGIARIZED JOHN EDWARDS' HEALTHCARE PLAN. This is from somebody who says she’s in the solution business? She just copied his plan and changed his name to hers. WTG Clinton, no wonder you’re the loudest crying plagiarism, YOU KNOW IT SO WELL.

I mean is this the person who supposed to be the inevitable candidate? The person who has been collecting money from donors for more than 2 decades now, and THIS IS THE BEST CAMPAIGN & MESSAGE she can deliver FROM THOSE 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE?

I'M INEVITABLE, I'M EXPERIENCE, I'M READY ON DAY ONE,I'M SO READY I HAD TO COPY MY HEALTHCARE PLAN FROM JOHN EDWARDS, I'M SO READY I HAVE TO MAKE SURE QUESTIONS GIVEN TO ME BY THE PEOLE ARE PLANTED AND THOSE THAT AREN'T HAVE TO BE PRE SCREENED, I'M SO READY I HAVE TO KILL ANY ARTICLE FROM BEING PUBLISHED IN CASE IT SAYS SOMETHING BAD ABOUT ME, I'M SO READY THAT I DIDN'T THINK I NEED TO MAKE MY CASE TO PEOPLE IN SMALL STATES LIKE WASHINGTON, NEBRASKA, DELAWARE OR VIRGINIA, I'M SO READY THAT CAUCUSES AREN'T IMPORTANT SO I DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY, I'M SO READY THAT EVEN IF I LOOSE 11 ELECTIONS IN A ROW IT'S STILL VIABLE TO SAY THAT I'M THE MOST EXPERIENCED AND READY ON DAY ONE AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

Tim K: I think the term 'crone' is sexist but would not fall into the cesspit that usually follows the term 'Billary' But to be fair, if you can't call Sen. Clinton a 'crone', I guess I can't call John McCain a 'creepy old guy' because that would be wrong ;).

It's crunch time! Time to finally get past the rhetoric of BOTH candidates. "Change we can believe in." "Solutions not speeches."

It's time to take a look at who the candidates really are and what they each bring to the table. The following compares the legislative experience of both candidates, taking into account Obama's eight (8) years in the Illinois State Senate, Clinton's eight (8) years as First Lady, and the time they have both served in the US Senate. Feel free to cut, paste, forward, etc...

HILLARY VS. OBAMA LEGISLATIVE RECORDS:
During Obama's (8) eight years in the Illinois State Senate, he sponsored over 820 bills - 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. IN ADDITION, DURING HIS FIRST YEAR IN THE U.S. SENATE, HE AUTHORED 152 BILLS AND CO-SPONSORED ANOTHER 427!!! THESE INCLUDED:

*The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law)
*The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law)
*The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate
*The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law)
*The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)

IN ALL, SINCE HE ENTERED THE U.S. SENATE, BARACK OBAMA HAS WRITTEN 890 BILLS, AND CO-SPONSORED ANOTHER 1,096. A VERY IMPRESSIVE RECORD, FOR SOMEONE WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAS "NO RECORD"

Hillary Clinton, who has served six (6) full terms in the U.S. Senate, and claims to know how to "get things done" has somehow managed to pass only twenty (20) pieces of legislation:

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

ONLY FIVE (5) OF HILLARY'S BILLS HAVE ANY REAL SUBSTANCE:
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

HILLARY CLINTON AS FIRST LADY / NY SENATOR:
Hillary Clinton often says that she should be President because of her experience, including 8 years as First Lady and 6 as NY Senator. This is her record for that period of time:

As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her OWN PARTY at the time! (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate, due in part to her nasty and divisive tactics.) Bill and Hillary Clinton failed miserably to rally others around their cause because they simply do not know how to bring Democrats and Republicans together! Lately, Hillary speaks of her "friend" John McCain, trying to compete with Barack on this issue, but those who know her history realize it's just "politics as usual"

Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill Clinton as 'my worst mistake.'

Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn.

Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign!

Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving 7 presidents for over thirty years.

In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a 30-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with any crime whatsoever (mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks). The jury acquitted him in less than 2 hours.

Another of Hillary's assumed duties was directing her husband's infidelity and scandal defense. Among her decisions:
1. She urged her husband NOT to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit.
2. She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor.
3. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting to his extramarital affairs.
4. Bill had to settle with Paula Jones after all. And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury.
5. And Bill was impeached by the House.
6. AND HILLARY ALMOST GOT HERSELF INDICTED FOR PERJURY AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE (WHICH SHE AVOIDED MOSTLY BECAUSE SHE REPEATED, "I DO NOT RECALL," "I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION, AND "I DON'T KNOW" 56 TIMES UNDER OATH).

Hillary decided to run for the Senate in a state where she had never lived before simply because she thought it would be her best chance at winning.

Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support.

Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had STOLEN!!!

In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary (as usual) played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully who was picking on her. This is one reason she is so frustrated with her Presidential Campaign right now. She can't cry '’POOR ME’ against Barack Obama. He's black and the farthest thing from a bully. But she and her surrogates CAN try to make us women feel like traitors if we do not vote for her (which all women with a brain deeply resent)!

Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.)

As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed NO MAJOR LEGISLATION! She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11.

Hillary's one notable vote: SUPPORTING THE PLAN TO INVADE IRAQ, which she has since disavowed and twisted, but refuses to admit was a mistake. Barack Obama, however, is the only '08 Democratic Presidential Candidate who had the good judgment to oppose the war from day one!

I am soooo sick of Obama's lies about Nafta.
He just voted to expand it!!!!
The Peru Trade Deal.

Ready on day One , what about the next 1459 days to go ???

Obama made a mistake with regards to Cuban history:

SEN. OBAMA: I mean, the fact is is that during my entire lifetime -- and Senator Clinton's entire lifetime you essentially have seen a Cuba that has been isolated but has not made progress when it comes to the issues of political rights and personal freedoms that are so important to the people of Cuba.

Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton (born October 26, 1947)
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (born August 4, 1961)

...the United States government imposed an arms embargo on the Cuban government on March 14, 1958.

These comments are incredibly sad to me. We're all supposed to be democrats. Maybe some of us are independents, or even republicans, but we all want to do the right thing. If we truly care enough about our country why don't we stop listening to speeches and debates and actually investigate each candidate's political background ourselves, and make an informed decision from there. However you vote, vote your conscience, not your hurt pride. Obama does have substance if you bother to look, and Clinton isn't a heartless person. I'm an Obama supporter who started out pro-Clinton, and I sincerely believe Clinton means well. It's just that she and Obama have different perspectives when it comes to politics. You can see this in how they have both managed their campaigns. To me that speaks more of the generational gap between them than an experience gap.

And no, Obama is not a saint; he's not the second coming. I know many people are put off by the reception he gets, and even I feel compelled to bring some over enthusiastic supporters back down to Earth. He's a politician, pure and simple. He just may be a politician who intends to act on his good intentions, and whether you realize it or not, he admits his failings and he's encouraging the people to put their leaders' collective butts in check.

So then, when it comes down to the voters, it all depends on whose message appeals more to us. Perhaps you like a leader whose tone is, "Yes, I Can," whereas someone like myself likes a leader whose tone is "Yes, We Can." To each his own.

Whatever our disagreements, let us always treat each other respectfully.

Wow...such hatred and vitriol.

I sure do look forward to the coming change. Oh, and all that good old unity too. (insert eye roll)

Obama may backpeddle after giving issues greater thought. Do you think that a thought or idea is cast in stone. Ideas and thoughts evolve with time and new developments can alter ideas and thoughts. It is the wise who can embrace change and implement change to an idea or thought for the betterment of people and execution of programs. One who can not adapt to changing scenarios is not fit to lead the great U.S.A. Obama has by and large shown that he is capable of adapting, arguing points, and embracing the wider populace. So, I am voting for change. We always have the option of getting rid of whoever is there every five years, through our great democracy.

The great thing about living in this country is we can all have opinions and give them at any time. Furthermore I'd like to state Opinions are like A$$holes everybody has one. So with that I will say good luck to everyone and their canidate. My opinion is Obama will win. So have your fun with my opinion and make opinions off of it! Democracy!

What stood out for me re. the Texas debate was the contrast between Obama's emphasis on issues and action vs. Clinton's "I", "Me" declarations of experience. Clinton's repetitive reminders of her service and achievements coupled with flagrant jabs at Obama's alleged plagiarism smack of political superiority. Obama presents a more humble, focused personal energetic and one directed toward viable transformation of our crippled government. I don't need to be convinced of a candidate's ability to lead via a personal power-point overview of their resume. Obama, while younger with fewer years of service, has a no less substantial record of accomplishment. Further, Obama quite simply delivers a more inclusive message directed toward improving the well-being of all. And without the presence of self-serving hidden agenda!

Awww shucks, I think the term Billary is kinda cute. It means 2 for the price of one that's all.

But witch, crone, shrillery and the borg queen...now those cross the line.

The problem with Hillary Clinton, is that she's Hillary Clinton. If you believe Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton care one iota about the American people, except in so much as they can get the both of them reelected to high office, you're either working for them, or sadly mistaken: http://theseedsof9-11.com

I think Bill and Hillary were idealistic as young politicians/lawyers. I think they came to decide that idealism does not win elections, especially not re-elections. It happens a lot. Somehow, call me delusional, I think Obama has a certain spark in him that will outshine the many political forces that extinguish idealism. He has my vote. We shall see.

I am so sick of Obama supporters having to justify thier choice to everyone. Just because people like and respect a politican doesn't make them stupid. I fact i remember another couple of presidents who got elected on likeablity rather than substance. Bill Clinton for example. My God, this the type of critism should be heaped upon Bush. Oh yeah, and Democrats, you have a chance to win an election here, and you are doing a great job so far of doing what democrats do best LOSING.

William wrote: "ONLY and I mean ONLY Obama supporters would bring down a woman trying to have some grace, in an election she is likely to loose to Mr. Obama. The mean-spirited Obama supporters forget something, we Hillary supporters have an alternative . . ."

Well now, William...
Perhaps Ms. Clinton should have tried showing some grace a little earlier in the election. From her recent refusal to even give a concession speech, let alone consider losing graciously and congratulating Obama's wins, to the distortion of Obama's words and the negative spinning coming from her campaign all year, Hillary has not lead a campaign of grace or respect. She deserves none of ours, now.

I hope you'll come around and give Obama your support. However, i think there is a basic difference between supporters of Hillary and Obama. Positive, hopeful, honest people who care about integrity and a candidate's actual RECORD, tend to lean towards Obama. People who accept politicians doublespeak and politics usual, and who can justify mudslinging as normal and fair, tend to support Hillary.

As we speak videos about Larry Sinclair are going viral on Youtube. Why is the Obama campaign not responding to allegations that he had drug and sex parties with this man.

As we speak videos about Larry Sinclair are going viral on Youtube. Why is the Obama campaign not responding to allegations that he had drug and sex parties with this man.

Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

Best debate ever!!!

Watching Obama wipe the floor with Hillary as she fires petty cheap shots $0

Watching Hillary squirm as the reality sinks in - Obama has more common sense in his pinky finger that she has in her whole body - and he's finally not afraid to show it $0

Learning that the only decent point she made in the entire debate - the last 2 minutes - was NOT genuine or heartfelt, but actually a PLAGIARIZED PHRASE SHE STOLE FROM JOHN EDWARDS... PRICELESS!

Classic Hillary Supporter...

Distract! Distract! Distract!

Viral! YouTube! Look over here! Don't pay attention to the Winning Streak (11-0)!!!

Obama is innocent, but who cares??? Good ole Slick Willy, Obama, Hillary, and McCain call all have drug/sex parties TOGETHER if they want to and it's none of our business.

America is tired of busy-body "sex police"... We just want someone great to lead our nation! What they do in their bedrooms is THEIR OWN BUSINESS!

Hillary’s moment was all about “her”. She was whining about all the scandals she and Bill have been involved in and caught.

Obama was saying to everybody. “You can screw up like I did making bad choices, but never give up. You have it within you to rise to a better day.” He was speaking to us all.

This is retarted, you all say Hillary is a scumbag because she used something from her husbands campaign but when Obama plagarises his speech and his creepy wife says she is finally proud of America you all say it is alright for him.

Gosh people, calm down. You're really getting worked up for nothing. Neither Hillbilly nor Barack The Rock Obamajammaslammamamma is going to win the White House. Nor is John Ronald McPlain. There will be a mysterious third party candidate who will come from nowhere this summer and woo us away to another state of mind...where the feeling will be so heady and sublime...and we'll lose our hearts to him there in the dark...underneath the stars. Wait and see...

Fool me once (New Hampshire), shame on you;
Fool me twice (Texas moment), shame on me.

Rickey that ain't make no KINDA sense! Git inside. Mamma bout to whip you!!

If Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will cast my vote for McCain. And I don't imagine I am the only Democrat who will do so.

Get ready for 4 more years of Republican rule, folks.

Baggem,
Like we really care.

And what will you do when McCain wins, Unbaggem? Riot in the streets?

LOL!

Baggem

We dont care if u vote McCain. (threat..threat..threat all u want)I dont blame u cause if Hilary got the nom I would vote that scumbag into office too. I'd rather have that scumbag then Hilary Clinton. Sorry..... Seems like democrats are divided are we not. Wonder why? And yes I will be in the streets if Hilary got the nom with an unfair superdelegate practice. But if the democratic party follows the hearts of this country I wont need to be in the street bc OBAMA will be the next President. WATCH! Ur sad mind will change. Just a matter of time.

You're wasting your vitriol, Champ. My guy was John Edwards.

Larry Sinclair lie detector test will be this February 26 in New York. He has claimed that he had physical encounters and did drugs with Obama. This story will be breaking soon. It has already been eluded too, but they are still sitting on it. If this guy passes the lie detector it will be all over the news networks. Here is a the viral video where he talks about his experience with Obama. There are other interviews also which can be searched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

My guy was John Edwards as well but I am pretty happy to have a good second choice in Obama. And if Hillary wins I will vote for her, even though I find her tactics almost as repulsive as Rove and Co. I don't like machine politics like the Clintons. That said Hillary is no warmongering, delusional crank like McCain. Perhaps you will wake up before the election and do something good for America instead of being a Thug enabler. If it helps, when you pull that lever for Obama, bring along a picture of Antonin Scalia.

Speaking of Rove...

www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

umm Baggem get your voter registration out and check republican because he will need as many votes as he can get. Poor fool is hoping Hilary voters will come to the dark side..... So I hope campaigning and raising funds for McCains is delightful and worth your time. I hope you give it 100% effort.

It was a 'meh' debate. For those of you having at Obama and saying he can't say anything to Hillary cos she is losing - get real. The woman has been attacking him full noise for the past week and in the debate. You seem to treat Hillary like a queen who can do what she wants without it creating repercussions for her. But she when she makes non-positive statements about MLK, JFK or Reagan to score a point, or when she plays the idea that all Obama supporters are delusional. She insults and belittles a lot of people and that has a lasting impact against her. The counter-claims against Clinton have been that she tends to be 'divide and conquer' and use mis-information or false information in attacks against Obama. Indeed, there is plenty of readily available evidence that this is what she does and what the net consequences of those actions have been. I think it's a shame that she has brought in the idea of winning by super-delegates and seating the DNC stripped states of Florida and Michigan. That could win her the nomination - but she will not unite her party nor win in November. The best chance for the Democrats is if Hillary actually gets behind Obama and gets the party unified - the polls have beared that out time and again.

Not much effort required on my part. I just walk into the polling station and cast my ballot. Easy as pie.

Rove has worked harder for my vote than anyone. I think I'll reward his efforts.