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Obama Veepstakes

29 Feb 2008 01:41 pm

How irresponsible of me.

Ok, with that out of the way...

Let us first note that Barack Obama is not John Kerry and is endowed with entirely different political imperatives. Kerry chose Edwards, we've learned in retrospect, because of politics, not because he felt Edwards could be president from day one, or because he felt some kinship with the smooth-talkin' lawyer from Robbins. The choice of Edwards and the demands it placed on the ticket will undoubtedly influence Mr. Obama's decision.

James Johnson, who was Kerry's veepstakes czar, is a major fundraiser for Obama and an informal adviser, and no doubt will urge him to first, choose someone with whom he is personally comfortable and can trust. I believe, but I do not know for sure, that this will be Obama's first and most private criterion: can I trust this guy (gal?) implicitly?

CW says that the first rule is "Do no harm." But that ain't right. The first rule is: Do I like this person?

Obama's evident political void is national security and executive experience; his first, public criterion will most definitely be: can this person be commander in chief? Can they pass the "red phone" test? ... followed by ... Can this person run a government?

It stands to reason that the largest nest of potential veep prospects contains old white men. And here are, on the basis of nothing but educated guesses, some of the names I believe that Obama will think about, when he starts to think about his selections.

Sam Nunn -- His thinking on nuclear proliferation has already influenced Obama's; both favor unilateral disarmament now; Nunn has the right geographic bonafides; he knows the generals and Obama does not;

Tim Roemer -- a 9/11 commissioner and former congressman from Indiana, Roemer has endorsed Obama; he's pro-life

Lee Hamilton -- he's quietly become of Obama's top foreign policy advisers; as a 9/11 commissioner, he built consensus, often to the detriment, some have said, of harder-edged conclusions.

Evan Bayh -- He's endorsed Hillary Clinton, but he's been a passive surrogate and hasn't participated in any activity that would offend Obama's sensibilities. He's a veteran of the intelligence and armed services committees and remains very popular in Indiana, where he's remembered as a tax-cutting Dem governor.

Joe Biden -- no Democrat gets foreign policy better than Joe Biden; no Democrat would be, in theory, a better steward of relations on the Hill than Biden; he'd be a fantastic surrogate and there'd be virtually no downside to picking him.

Wild cards: Chuck Hagel, Hillary Clinton, Jim Webb,

The American Prospect, in its March issue, has a list of the Usual Suspects, starting with Jim Webb ("miliary credentials," "Virginia," "white working class,"), Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (though the Prospect notes that she sort of flubbed her SOTU reaction address), Ohio's Ted Strickland (ah, but he endorsed HRC), Sen. Ken Salazar (not gonna happen), Biden, Napolitano, Schweitzer and others on the "bench," including Govs. Vilsack, Richardson and Bayh.

Next week, maybe, I'll write one of these about Hillary Clinton....

Comments (105)

Next week, maybe, I'll write one of these about Hillary Clinton....

Yes, undoubtedly for the best.

Maybe it's crazy, but what about Bloomberg?

I think Biden is far and away the best choice, he adds gravitas, is respected, seasoned, and amicable, the only downside is that it's a IL/VT ticket, what about the south/west? What about Richardson? He seems a bit of a loose cannon but does have the NM/latino connection. A woman VEEP is a good idea, but I don't see anyone on the horizon.

Biden. Then, my second pick, Biden. After that, Biden.

He is funny, smart, and has a ton of experience. And he's tough. He'll be a good bulldog to Obama. And Obama needs a bulldog.

The one downside that I hear is that Biden is a Senator, as is Obama. But I don't think that will matter. McCain is a Senator, and if he picks a Governor as his running mate, it doesn't really bring the executive leadership thing into focus. Because, naturally, a VP isn't going to be in an executive role.

So, again. Biden.

Marc, just out of curiosity, where do you get the idea that Obama is in favor of unilateral disarmament when he has said exactly the opposite?

i've been thinking about this a great deal (couldn't resist either) and i have come to the firm conclusion that he should pick a woman. It will please and satisfy all the Clinton supporters (a LOT of women will be disappointed over the failure to break the ultimate glass ceiling). It will be an even more "historic" ticket. The republicans will have to be even MORE sensitive over there attacks/criticisms. Independents will not want to vote against such a ticket: they'll feel it's high-time America votes a woman and African-American into the white house.

As for the sure-handed, reassuring foreign policy/military person option goes, I believe that the Dems will win the foreign policy argument. Therefore, it won't be necessary. McCain will be an old and out of touch Dole-like candidate by November.

thoughts?

What about Mark Warner?

John McCain is becoming a joke figure before our eyes as gaffe prone as Romney. This whole thing is a joke. A man who is 'tongue-tied' and can't think on the spot. I wonder who that remind me of???

Nearly his entire campaign and senate staff is former Daschle. I don't think there is anyone who I would take versus the field, but Daschle is certainly the most likely of anyone.

Well, the problem is there is no woman to be picked, unfortunately, really none of the governors will do, and the senior female senators (ie Feinstein) just wouldn't work either, I just can't see it, so I think he's got to go for foreign policy heft, it's more about the person who meets the criteria, rather than the gender, although i do think mccain might consider a female VEEP which might work out quite well for him

Out of your wildcards, I think Hagel is the most intriguing, although I wonder how it would play. He's always struck me as the true maverick as opposed to McCain's faux posturing.

I was with you right up until you said Sam Nunn. What on earth are you thinking? And Jim Webb is equally a non-starter. His women problems won't sit well with the women pissed off by Hillary's loss.

Retarded. Period.

... As in I'm willing to put up cold hard cash (some one should really create a paypal for blog bets)that no one on your main list gets anywhere near Obama's.

Unlike most democrats the Obama campaign understands the awesome power of narrative and image and all of your picks are just plain boring.

By contrast, a Mark Warner or a Sebelius or a Webb or even a Chet Culver would reinforce all of Obama's narratives and win two weeks worth of news cycles with profiles, cover stories and obsessive pundit chatter.

(Note: and Webb would set the netroots on fire, they love him)

More importantly, Warner, Sebelius, Webb and Culver are the future of the democratic party.

We all know how well Bill picking someone so boring that couldn't win a general worked out. You can't seriously be suggesting that Obama would be smart to serve Evan Bayh up to eventual electoral slaughter at the hands of Sarah Palin or John Thune.

Your picks are conventional Marc, even though the one thing this election cycle has demonstrated is that the public no longer trusts the conventional wisdom.

Obama doesn't favor unilateral disarmament. He favors eventual universal disarmament. That means "nobody has nuclear weapons", not "we get rid of ours first and hope for the best".

Retarded. Period.

... As in I'm willing to put up cold hard cash (some one should really create a paypal for blog bets)that no one on your main list gets anywhere near Obama's.

Unlike most democrats the Obama campaign understands the awesome power of narrative and image and all of your picks are just plain boring.

By contrast, a Mark Warner or a Sebelius or a Webb or even a Chet Culver would reinforce all of Obama's narratives and win two weeks worth of news cycles with profiles, cover stories and obsessive pundit chatter.

(Note: and Webb would set the netroots on fire, they love him)

More importantly, Warner, Sebelius, Webb and Culver are the future of the democratic party.

We all know how well Bill picking someone so boring that couldn't win a general worked out. You can't seriously be suggesting that Obama would be smart to serve Evan Bayh up to eventual electoral slaughter at the hands of Sarah Palin or John Thune.

Your picks are conventional Marc, even though the one thing this election cycle has demonstrated is that the public no longer trusts the conventional wisdom.

What about Bill Richardson? He's been governor and Energy Secretary, so he's got executive experience. He's been ambassador to the U.N., so you've foreign policy experience. He's Latino, so you've got demographic help, and he's from the Southwest, which is going to be a hotly contested region, so you've got geographic help. The only drawback is that you'd have to convince him to shave his beard first.

Why is no one mentioning Tim Kaine? He is term limited in Virginia. Sure he lacks national security experience, but he has executive experience. He also has the advantage of not being a Senator and not being outside of Obama's age cohort, like Nunn. And he certainly can help Obama carry Virginia in the General, which could be extremely important, because it does not look like he can win Florida (neither does Clinton for that matter looking at recent polling).

A lot of choices I just cannot see happening, two Senators on one ticket is clearly a losing proposition. Ask Kerry and Edwards. And a African-American man and a white woman on the same ticket might just be too progressive for a lot of our nation.

KathyF

I agree Webb's women problems may preclude him. But to have left the other Obama, Mark Warner, off the list - just silly.

He's the obvious choice.

Until someone convinces me otherwise - and I'm open to the conversation - I think it's gotta be Biden. In addition to the reasons that Marc listed above, Biden is an older white guy, a more "traditional" presidential figure. I know, I know, that isn't supposed to matter. And to me, it doesn't.

But to many people, it does. There are still some, even in the Democratic party, who will have a hard time voting for the black guy and a traditional VP candidate like Biden would be reassuring. Another minority on the ticket might be more "change" than people, especially independents or possible Republican crossovers, can handle all at one time.

I also don't buy too heavily into the theory of Obama choosing a red state Democrat as VP. He's shown he can do well in red states all by himself. I don't think Obama's VP has to come too far out of left field here. Biden is a safe choice made for the right reasons, not because he will bring this state or that demographic along with him.

And imagine Biden teeing off on John McCain. I'm excited at the possibility already.

Marc,

I am glad you picked up on what I mentioned earlier - focus on Obama's VP as no in the press is doing that.

His VP will be one of the three --

Biden (DE) or Richardson (NH) or Janet N. (AZ)

He may prefer Biden at State.

OBAMA/BLOOMBERG 4 AMERICA

(disclaimer: Bloomy's never been #2 in his life, but just consider the possibility for a moment)

in no particular order:

1) immediately diffuses anti-Semitism charges.

some might say, the Jewish population in America is so small, would Israel become that big of an issue this election? maybe not; however, the GOP will continue to try to smear Obama as a Muslim/foreigner...and one of the only ways they can do this and not seem completely bigoted is by linking these smears to fears that Obama may be soft on Israel...in other words linking them to "truth" that Obama is supported by an anti-Semite (Farrakhan) and he is "soft on Israel" (in the minds of lard-liners) because he has expressed a desire to negotiate with the Muslim world.

Someone a few days ago said that the far right will try to make Farrakhan Obama's running mate. Be it Farrakhan or Rev. Wright, this issue of anti-Semitism/Israel/white backlash is not going away anytime soon. Bloomy neutralizes that.

2) It's the economy, stupid.

Try as the GOP will, i think the economy will be the number one issue on voters minds. Bush is trying to argue we're not going into recession, but the foreclosure stories, coupled with the forthcoming stimulus rebates will keep the economy on our minds for a long time. Bloomberg knows the economy, period. He's a businessman with spectacular credibility on matters of economics.

3) Homeland Security.

Bloomy has kept us safe in NY since 9/11. Sometimes we bitch about the NYPD in the subways, but we do feel safer now than ever. And Bloomberg oversaw this.

4) He's a manager with executive experience.

5) He's a capitalist (and what's more American than capitalism?)

6) the HISTORY making precedent of a black and a Jew would set people's hair on fire.

7) Bloomy appeals to fiscal conservatives.

8) They share a mutual respect and agree on some issues very important to Bloomberg, illegal guns for example.

9) It would show Obama is truly willing to reach across the aisle and try to forge a new, inclusive vision for America to unite a community organizer and a pro-business (Jewish) person.

10) face it, MY FRIENDS, we could put a 4 star General on the ticket as VP and we'd still lose the national security discussion against McCain. The guy is the 1st person America thinks of when we think "war hero."

We shouldnt be trying to match brass for brass; we should tell how we're right and change the conversation to the economy and homeland security. because like it or not, St. McCain, we are not safer now than we were pre-9/11.

Bill Richardson's Beard for Vice President! And Al Gore's Former Beard for Elder Statesman!

Good time to raise the names of potential Veeps. Sam Nunn is too old and old school and will contradict Obama's slogan of change. No Joe Biden is one of the most competent, but Joe is also somewhat old. He will make an excellent Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards are out for various reasons. Bill Richardson would make a good Veep, but a ticket made up of a Black and a Latino will challenge mainstream America.

Personally, I think Obama will choose either Jim Webb or Tim Kaine, Governor of Virginia. He needs help with white voters and these two guys delivered Virginia to him in a big way.

My dad, a rock-ribbed Republican, likes Biden. He has a sharp tongue (I'm convinced his shot at Rudy about his 9/11 complex was the moment when he went from contender to joke and helped sink him) but he often doesn't know when to shut up. What about Dodd, who's been awesome this campaign and adds some necessary gravitas? My guess is Obama surprises us. Vice President Springsteen?

I don't think Obama needs to do the national security thing, though let's see how Hillary's attack ad plays. Iraq and McCain's warmongering comments should be enough to win that issue with independents. Double down on outsider/change/independents with an executive experience candidate who can help in swing states. (Sorry Joe Biden, I really like you, but I don't think a long-time insider is what the ticket needs.)

Kathleen Sebelius is the best option for this profile. Yes, the SOTU response was monotone and she needs to work on her skills in front of a teleprompter. But she does great with large crowds and interviews. As of SUSA's poll this week she has a 67/26 fav/unfav split in Kansas, which is 50R/27D. Republicans even like her, 55/43. She's next door to MO, KS is surprisingly close, and she's the daughter of a former OH senator. She's older and known as a great manager who balanced the budget while expanding education.

I'm THRILLED to see all the love here for Joe Biden. He's my top pick for VP. Not only would he bring his vast foreign policy experience but, having been a Senator for - dare I say it? - 35 years, he'd be Biden's consigliere. Perfect balance to all those criest that Obama's too green.

There's no chance for any of the governors, regardless of gender. None of them have foreign policy experience, exactly what Obama needs for balance.

Webb's an outside possibility but I believe him when he says he's not interested.

Hagel's a superb idea - he's actually my dream Secretary of Defense in an Obama administration.

As to Warner, forget about. It's more important that he take John Warner's seat.

Mark Warner is running for the Senate, and is heavily favored to win John Warner's seat. If Warner became VP nominee, it'd basically be giving up a certain Senate pick-up.

Obama's opposition to the Iraq War authorization in 2002 has been such a focal point of his candidacy and an example of "being right on day one," that I don't see how he can select anyone who voted aye in 2002. If you look at the 23 senators who voted no, very few if any are the kind of people one would traditionally think of as Veep material. In fact, Bob Graham is the most likely of those 23, and that's not saying much.

Bill Richardson would be the obvious pick, but then he decided to run for president, and he revealed himself to be more gaffe-prone than I ever thought.

Even though her odds of being selected are probably only 15%, they're still higher than anyone else's, so if I had to guess a name today, it would be Kathleen Sebelius.

Double chocolate.... Colin Powell.

Wes Clark gets entirely written off for having endorsed Sen. Clinton? Otherwise, isn't his military experience and old white man-itude fairly clearly what Obama needs?

John

Kaine's term limited and he's up in 09 anyway. He'd pick the seat up in a walk.

Dirk,

Mark Warner seems to be running for the VA Senate seat. He has a good chance to win it because his opposition does not look to be very strong. However I don't think he is strong enough to help Obama carry Virginia in the general like Kaine could because although he was popular as governor, he is not a southern guy. He's a Dulles tech corridor, Fairfax Democrat guy. And those kinds of guys are not as popular anymore now that we are so many years on since the collapse of the tech bubble. Also, I don't think he is very tall and it could look kind of weird with a tall Obama next to a short Warner.

>>one more thing about OBAMA/BLOOMBERG 4 AMERICA I forgot to mention>>OBAMA/BLOOMBERG 4 AMERICA

washerdreyer


Three words: Old. Terrible campaigner. Think about it as a casting call for a movie called "The Past vs. The Future"

Obama/Webb- easy pick.

This ticket would reach deeper into traditional Republican strongholds than anything possible. Suburban and rural.

Webb was against the war in Iraq and has a long paper trail on this issue. He helps carry VA. He puts the "national security" question to rest.
Anyone who beat George Allen knows how to fight. Total bulldog on the trail.

And how many stories could they run about his son being in Iraq as a Marine. McCain has a son in Iraq and good shit we will hear about that from the GOP. Webb silences that, or threatens to beat them up.

And the image of Jim Webb standing up at Denver and saying "I did not leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me" just sends chills down my spin.

he's pro-life
What the ??? We are all pro-life, he's anti abortion.

i am not so sure that obama would want to balance his ticket - but instead maintain his brand. independent minded, new era democrat that can unite folks. you have all been talking about the wrong virginians - Tim Kaine. one of the first governors to get on board...

no chance on jim webb

bloomberg would be the best choice. i dont think mayor mike would ever do it,

The most likely Obama running-mates are Sen. Evan Bayh, Gov. Tim Kaine, Sen. Claire McCaskill, Gov. Bill Richardson, and Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. Next in line are Sen. Joe Biden, former Sen. Tom Daschle, and Sen. Jim Webb. Also possibilities are former Sen. John Edwards, Gov. Jennifer Granholm, and Gov. Janet Napolitano. And, of course, Sen. Clinton.

The key variables are: (1) qualified to be president; (2) generally perceived as qualified to be president, which is not the same thing as (1); (3) ability to help bring a key swing state; (4) ability to help with a key constituent cohort; (5) good temperament, blends well withi the nominee; and (6) strong campaigner.

Not likely but worth putting out there: Al Gore. I know he has "been there, done that" but this time is different. He could take a clue from Dick Cheney and use the office without much official responsibility to do whatever he wants! Obama pretty much gives him free reign over everything from global warming to good government and he becomes the new most powerful vice president ever.

Back to reality, I think Obama will use his choice to make some sort of point. Additional foreign policy credentials would be helpful but I don't think it is Biden (although I do see a spot for him on the team - national security perhaps?) so how about Richarson. Bonafides as a foreign diplomat and an executive who hails from the important southwest and who is hispanic. Added bonus: they seem to like each other!

Chris Dodd is my darkhorse candidate. He brings solid integrity to the ticket and is popular with the left because of his work on FISA.

I would also put Gen. Wesley Clark on the very high on this short list for Obama VP. It seems to me that he could be a great unity VP candidate to unite the Democratic Party.

1. He is a Clinton supporter and could help heal the Primary wounds for the die-hard Clintonites.

2. He has been vetted through his 2004 run for president.

3. He would certainly blunt the McCain military experience argument.

4. Gen Clark also seems to be the type of person who would be open to serious diplomatic engagement with both Allies and enemies to get things done. That would certainly compliment Barack Obama. He certainly honed his diplomatic skills as Supreme Allied NATO Commander.

5. Wesley Clark could certainly help nail down the Military and Veteran vote for Obama. Clarks own loyal political following could also do wonders to bring in even more new voters to the Democratic Party.

6. Clark is not a Washington insider. This will fit right in with Obama's Message of changing Washington.

7. Lastly, Wesly Clark already has name recognition, again due to his 2004 presidential campaign. The Obama-Clarck Campaign won't have to spend a lot of time and money introducing him to the American public. They both will be able to hit the ground running for the long summer Campaign against McCain and his VP candidate.

Nthing Jim Webb. He's exciting and energetic and could be a good bulldog to Obama's more laid-back style. Remember his response to the SOTU last year? He blew the President of the United States off the screen.

He fills in the holes on national security cred, and he reinforces Obama's theme of transcending party for the good of the country. He's also not too old--put an old white guy type up on the platform behind Obama and you're going to create some unfortunate imagery, fair or not.

Sebelius.

And, contrary to the CW, Obama does not need to pick as VP someone with particular foreign policy or national security or military background.

He needs simply to provide the American people with confidence that those bases are covered.

When and if Obama gets the Democratic nomination, I would urge him to do that by announcing -- in advance of the general election -- not just his running mate but an abridged slate, including, say, VP; Secretaries of State, Defense, Treasury, and Labor; Attorney General; and, perhaps, new Cabinet-level positions on (1) sustainability/climate change and (2) cities

Webb is a strong guy, but the Dems won't risk losing his seat in the Senate; not many Dems can win where Webb is from. So, sorry guys.

Kaine is good and he can speak to "people of faith," but he doesn't help Obama with the economy. And if Obama is going after McCain's ignorance on the economy, he has to boost his own economic credentials.

Wes Clark is a bad idea, in my opinion. Great leader and we'd honor his service, but he fizzled out in 2004 badly and he's not a great campaigner.

OBAMA/BLOOMBERG FOR AMERICA!!!!!

I know I'm dreaming in color because Bloomy's ego might be too big for the second chair, but man, why is he not getting any more love on this board.

He is, by far, the strongest pick in my opinion.

Obama doesn't need a military man as VP. Are you telling me that the mayor of NYC doesnt know anything about the war on terror.

it looks to me like the best option is Wes Clark, for all the reasons RSBaker cogently outlined. no-one from inside Washington will do.

TKD: hate to break it to you, but Gov. Granholm is not qualified to be President. Literally. She was born in Canada and therefore ineligible. I do like the idea of a governor on the ticket - is Phil Bredesen of Tennessee too conservative for Obama? It sure would be nice to make the GOP sweat Tennessee this time. Gov. Doyle of Wisconsin is not all that popular, but he was an early Obama booster and may help bolster the Midwest states.

Al Gore.

Please not Jim Webb or anyone anti-choice. Obama does need to draw those older white women back into the fold, and while I don't think he needs to nominate a woman, he needs to nominate someone with a strong record on women's issues.

Some of you need to get out of New York. Seriously. Bloomberg? Give me a break. Short, nerdy, unmarried New Yorker with a funny accent? Outside of Manhatten, he doesn't have a prayer. (And he would not be able to use his own money to fund the campaign).

WEBB! WEBB! WEBB! (And I say this as a woman and Hillary supporter.) Second choice would be Hagel which I think would really shake things up and guarantee great coverage from the press. How's that ticket Mr. Maverick?

Teresa

I'd like to agree, I love Webb, but don't you think Hillary's playing the gender card a little too much for Obama to pick a VP who isn't crazy about choice?

Seriously?

No offense... but your list is really bad. Bayh?? Hamilton?? Hagel?? are you kidding?

Brian Schwietzer or Sherrod Brown. Both solid progressives in the "change" mold. And Schwietzer has bona fide middle east experience on top of the fact that he speaks Arabic.

I think Al Gore would be a good choice.

Don't mock. Obama could promise him ultimate authority on global warming initiatives...he could be environment czar who also happens to be vice president. Gore would be seen as very capable of assuming the presidency, if, God forbid, Obama was assassinated, as many people fear.

tony lake. totally unconventional and he's been breaking his back for obama. supposedly he is great on the stump as well.

Got to agree with JayDawg and his call for "Double Chocolate."

While I think a Colin Powell pick is definitely a long shot - mostly because I imagine that Colin Powell cannot be all that interested in becoming a part of an exhausting national campaign at this stage in his life - consider these points:

* Powell, as a Republican, would enhance Obama's narrative as a person willing to reach across the aisle to find common ground

* Powell would help blunt lack of experience arguments against Obama

* Powell would help blunt lack of patriotism / love of country slurs against Obama

* Powell would blunt against "red phone" call fear attacks from McCain/Republicans

* With all respect to the Mark Warner, Tim Kaine and Evan Bayh-types, but most Americans have NO CLUE who these guys are. While Powell may not be able to help directly deliver voters in critical swing states (read: Missouri (Sebelius) or Virgina (Kaine/Webb)), he is a national figure/celebrity and may help pick up votes across the board

* Two words: war hero

* As one of GWB's salesmen for the Iraq war, Powell would be a powerful voice in stating the case that the war was a mistake and corrective measures are needed

* Once Obama is President he would face monumental partisan traps, not the least of which would be Weimar-style stabbed-in-the-back charges from the far-right that would threaten efforts to extracate ourselves tactfully and successfully from Iraq - see Jonathan Rauch's great article in the Atlantic for more details. Powell would help Obama and our nation avoid this potential calamity and generational rift.

* JayDawg's "double chocolate" snark may play very strongly with Barack, and particularly, Michelle Obama. (Long winded explanation alert!) I think Michelle Obama was intensely wary of Barack's decision to enter the Democratic presidential nomination contest this year, first, because she wanted to be convinced that he would be able to run an effective, competitive campaign against HRC and not get squashed like a bug and hurt his future prospects (not an unreasonable concern in December 2006), but secondly, I think Michelle believed that Barack would be a great candidate and had a strong chance at being elected President ... and that scared the living daylights out of her. Why? Because I think she truly worries that he may be assasinated either running for office or once in office due to his skin color. Picking a black man (in this instance Powell) takes away a would-be racist assasin's incentive. I mean, what's the point in shooting the black guy if you only end up with another black guy?

Many of the names mentioned don't make sense. With McCain as his opposition I think he needs to go get a running mate with national security credentials. The problem with guys like Nunn and Hamilton is they are too old. Look down the field to 2016 and who would make a good Democratic nominee. Evan Bayh and Bill Richardson would both make sense. By the way, Jim Webb is a lazy campaigner and would end up being a liability.

Webb is not a lazy campaigner. He worked his butt off to win in Virginia.

Plus I'd like to see some attempt to swift boat him. A republican would end up with his teeth down his throat.

William Cohen. All the upside of Wesley Clark, without that pesky "endorsed Hillary" baggage. Try and one-up a former Secy. of Defense, and a borderline Republican to boot. You want change... you got it.

@ Andy

I agree with your points and there mostly my reasons for supporting Powell. From my perspective I think Powell would also be a good veep for the first term only. Once Obama has gravitas for the second term he could turn to someone for VP with 2016 succession in mind.

I also think Powell would be game.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/06/10/powell-dispenses-foreign-policy-advice-to-obama/

I think I'm being sold on the fierce audacity and urgency of double chocolate. Powell would be a freaking awesome VP choice -- except for that pesky UN speech on weapons of mass destruction he gave. Oh well, nobody's perfect.

McCain would definitely lock up the racist vote in the double chocolate scenario, but so what?

Realistically, the main problem with Powell is he probably angers the Dem base.

Reality check: obama loses without Hillary and Hillary loses without obama.
There must be at least a public overture either way.

Powell is a non-starter. He and Webb and Nunn and Richardson undermine those they are close to. they have the john mccain gene. the same gene that jack kemp had: they watch out for themselves more than anyone.

teresa, it has nothing to do with us having to get out of NY. there are many advantages to Bloomberg I don't think you are realizing.

Not the least of which is: Bloomberg could help Obama win Florida. Large Jewish population, very influential.

Florida hates Obama right now. He is the reason they are "disenfranchised." Not Howard Dean, Obama. And we have HRC to thank for that.

But Blooomberg confounds that dynamic. And, as I said earlier, he immediately insulates Obama against anti-Semitism claims, being soft on Israel, which the Repubs will claim in a manner suggestive that its because he is a Muslim.

OBAMA/BLOOMBERG FOR AMERICA!!!!

Mark Warner

Biden would be great! He's funny and charming when he takes on the GOPers but he goes for the jugular and wins. Here's biden on Giuliani: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Y8AFctpjo

I love me some Biden, but wouldn't that kind of reinforce the whole "plagiarism" narrative? Or is that soooo last week?

Double Chocolate '08.

I would go for Biden. He was my first choice for the WH this year; I picked Obama only after it was clear that Biden couldn’t make a go of it.

Can any clear thinking person listen to him talk about Iraq and foreign policy in general and not be totally entranced? Plus he is the only candidate this year who wanted to get out of Iraq AND had a plan to try and salvage the country on the way out.

Webb? All of us Dems are in love with the man, aren’t we? Part of me is so giddy at the opportunity of an Obama / Webb ticket and the damage that it could do to the GOP that I would say “to hell with it, go for Webb”. (I mean, Jesus, just think of it for a second.) But as someone already said, he is the Senator from Virginia, which is a pretty choice seat to give up. With this shaping up as a Dem year, I don’t know if he’s needed on the national ticket that badly.

Brian Schwietzer speaks Arabic? Damn…wow. And there is his huge red-state appeal and his plain-spoken ways you don’t see in too many Democrats. But he is running for re-election THIS year; Obama would have to make the phone call pretty damn quick.

Warner is like Webb, only he has no real foreign policy cred and he’s running for the other Senate seat from Virginia THIS year.

As far as a women VP pick goes, there are two problems. As I believe someone already mentioned, there are no female possibilities out there that have foreign policy experience and wouldn’t be a drag on the ticket for other reasons. Second and this is a little cynical but you already have a black man at the top of the ticket, the first in history. Would it not help that black man’s chances, considering the first 43 US presidents were all white men and most of them were old, to have an old white man as his running mate? If there was a qualified woman out there as charismatic as Obama, I might think differently but I know of none such woman.

Hillary Clinton would not be a terrible choice, if she'd swallow her pride and do it. It gets the Clintons on Obama's side, which is probably more of a good thing than a bad thing. It heals the divisions from this primary fight better than any other choice could. It helps with downscale whites and non-black ethnics.
For Clinton, it gets her back on the good side of all the Obama supporters who kind of hate her right now. It keeps her in the spotlight. And, should Obama win and serve 8 years, Clinton would really be the frontrunner in 2016 -- she'd still be younger than McCain is now.

Obama/Clinton 'O8. or Obama/Gore, Obama/Biden, Obama/Clark.
Let's face it, Obama could use a little gravitas on the ticket with him. Picking another young guy with limited experience could really backfire.

Jim Webb is the perfect choice. VA will be important in the fall and he will help. Also, I think white males will be the key voter determinant this GE. Jim Webb would help balance the ticket on that front. Jim Webb is the ideal white male image. But if chosen, would he serve?

HRC would be a poor choice as Obama would have to constantly watch his back, Bill would be trying to run things with Hillary as the mouthpiece. It would be political suicide for Obama to have Clinton on the ticket. The GOP and many independents would unite in droves and vote against Hillary to elect McCain.

I like the choice of Kaine, Daschle, Sebelius, Culver or maybe Wesley Clark.

Kaine and Culver represent the future and will also appeal to the working class white males. as well as independents. Sebelius is a good choice as she will help possible carry states like KS, MO, and OH where Obama would struggle with the working class votes. Both Sebelius and Kaine bring old political ties that can carry electoral votes in states Democrats have has a hard time with.

Daschle and Clark will appeal to those with national security and secession issues. I don't know how Clark and Obama mess politically but Obama and Daschle are good friends and both exhibit a calm deliberative manner of governing that would be good for the nation and Daschle is a moderate liberal.

Nunn was one of the Democrats that spiked the push for gays in the military.

Wesley Clark would be solid.

If Obama chooses 4 star general, Vietnam hero, and fformer NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark as his VVP then this race will be all over. Clark would hhelp give the American people full confidence in Obama as commander-in-chief. Clark would also help Obama mend fences with the Clintons.

If Obama chooses 4 star general, Vietnam hero, and fformer NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark as his VVP then this race will be all over. Clark would hhelp give the American people full confidence in Obama as commander-in-chief. Clark would also help Obama mend fences with the Clintons.

If Obama chooses 4 star general, Vietnam hero, and fformer NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark as his VVP then this race will be all over. Clark would hhelp give the American people full confidence in Obama as commander-in-chief. Clark would also help Obama mend fences with the Clintons.

If Obama chooses 4 star general, Vietnam hero, and fformer NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark as his VVP then this race will be all over. Clark would hhelp give the American people full confidence in Obama as commander-in-chief. Clark would also help Obama mend fences with the Clintons.

Everyone who's suggesting Richardson or Wes Clark must not have been paying attention to their presidential campaigns. They are bad, bad campaigners. It's not all about the resumes!

If Biden is selected, it will completely deflate the hope out of the Obama's baloon. Joe is sexist, racist, arrogant, smug, and a poster boy for Washington good old white boys. I will never forget Anita Hill. If Obama has the imagination I think he does he will look for a woman, or a Latino or both. The primary has shown that we can handle that.

I've read through all the previous comments, and see the lack of one name: Joe Lieberman? He was a Dem, is now an Independent, and has some major strengths that Obama needs.

He won't pick Evan Bayh. He's young, and he's steeped in the failed ways of the DLC.

I think you've missed a key qualification: the VP must be a Dean Democrat. Obama needs someone who understands the bottom-up 50-state approach.

"I've read through all the previous comments, and see the lack of one name: Joe Lieberman? He was a Dem, is now an Independent, and has some major strengths that Obama needs."

Uh, what? Lieberman has been on the side of the Bush Administration when it comes to torture, the Iraq war, and he co-sponsored the bill to authorize force against Iran.

Are you insane?

Obama and the country would be served well with either Biden or Bloomberg. I would love to see a white republican with deep economic and/or foreign relations experience. It would make him almost invincible against McCain in the general election.

Clark would provide a firewall against McCain's military record. Biden would provide an anchor of experience and foreign policy smarts. Either one would be fantastic on the ticket.

That said, selection of VP is overrated in terms of having an actual impact on the race. It wasn't like Gore did that much to help get Clinton elected (honestly, Ross Perot did more), or Mondale for Carter. And does anyone remember Jack Kemp as Bob Dole's running mate? I saw that old bumper sticker the other day and laughed out loud - wow, totally forgot about those guys. Now Bush 41 did help Reagan some in '80, and Cheney is a different story entirely, but...in this case it comes down to the person of Obama himself.

I think the 'do no harm' mantra applies this year more than ever, and either Biden or Clark would be more than safe picks, they'd be solid.

VP: Jim Webb

Secretary of Defense: Chuck Hagel

Secretary of State: Sam Nunn

Secretary of Treasury: Bloomberg or Gov Sebelius

Attourney General: John Edwards

Obama should makes this announcement one week before Pennsylvania PRimary

In an election when the Republicans will stress national security and foreign policy, what better veep could there be than Joe Biden? This pick would place in an important role a statesman and veteran who has forgotten more about foreign policy than anyone else knows. In addition his clout on the hill should be a major plus for Barack in getting good legislation on the books. Joe is not an ultra-liberal, but rather a centrist - a perfect mix & choice strategically, experience-wise and otherwise.

In an election when the Republicans will stress national security and foreign policy, what better veep could there be than Joe Biden? This pick would place in an important role a statesman and veteran who has forgotten more about foreign policy than anyone else knows. In addition his clout on the hill should be a major plus for Barack in getting good legislation on the books. Joe is not an ultra-liberal, but rather a centrist - a perfect mix & choice strategically, experience-wise and otherwise.

Senator Jack Reed

He's a West Point and Harvard-educated Army Ranger and 82nd Airborne paratrooper badass who forcefully opposed the Iraq War from day one and who- yes, it's almost too good to be true- is more Progressive than anyone currently being mentioned, including Edwards.

He is consistently called a liberal "hero" by the ADA for a record that, year in and year out, hovers at or near 100%. And he has a #3 lifetime liberal rating among current Senators. This will give Obama a working partner with whom he shares a deep philosophical kinship.

This guy is a major win/win. He gives you unassailable military credentials and national security experience, and he gives you dyed-in-the-wool Progressivism.

i like Biden a lot, he'd be my top choice. However i don't see him as having no downsides. He has chronic foot in mouth, but then again he always seems to spin it so cool. When asked what his favorite thing about Dennis Kucinich he replied "his wife."


In terms of representing CHANGE, ideally, i'd want Russ Feingold, a true champion of the people.

I wanted to add that i think its important to point out that republicans tend to pick veep's who ingite strong grassroots support. Cheney is a champion for corporate america and pro military hawks.

It seems on the other hand that democrats tend to pick much more "safe" vp choices in the interest of things like balance, and so-called political gravitas.

This all plays to a general feeling that democrats often appear to be on the defensive, and i think this has not played to their advantage in elections past. This is another reason why i would just be bold and go with someone like Feingold. It would send a clear signal that the democrats are about change.

feingold equals pure grassroots ignition and this is how ground troops are activated to support the cause. Fortune favors the bold!

Win over white males and it's over.

If you can get him: General James Jones
If not: James Webb

Have you updated this? We've been having fun with this over at eyesonobama.com -

http://www.eyesonobama.com/blog/content/id_12783/title_Anatomy-of-a-VP-Candidate/

This guy took most of the people being named in the blogosphere and measured them by all the metrics being measured - you mentioned older white men - and analyzed the results.

Two names came up more than the rest, though not by much.

Sebelius. There is no more perfect VP than Kathleen Sebelius. White, Catholic, RESPECT from Republicans. Non-DLC, ran her own mini-Change Campaign in Kansas, turned things around. Kansas becomes the model for the new American Revival.

All that Kathleen Sebelius needs is some practice in front of a prompter and she'll be a pro. She will be Obama's Hillary, only with more southern appeal and fewer negatives.

Kathleen Sebelius enabled Barack to play some serious offense. Democrats need to play some offense.

I would like to see Nancy Pelosi or Major General Barbara Campbell Fast


(details on Major General Barbara Cambell Fast)--- has served in the United States Army for twenty-eight years, attaining the rank of Two-Star General. She is the first woman in the military to serve as a combat arms commander and command a tactical exploitation battalion in combat and was the Army’s first female senior intelligence officer in a combat ready division.

After leaving the hallways of Belleville East in 1971, Barbara attended Central Missouri State University in Warrensburg, Missouri. After two years, she transferred to the University of Missouri-Columbia where she received a B.S.E. degree in German and Spanish. After completing her bachelor’s degree, Barbara was commissioned in the United States Army in 1976 as a Military Intelligence Officer. She earned her Master’s degree in Business Administration from Boston University while she was stationed overseas.

Since October of 1976, Barbara has been stationed in Munich, Germany; Fort Hood, Texas; Alexandria, Virginia; Ausburg, Germany; and the Pentagon in Virginia.

After selection for Brigadier General, Barbara was assigned to the National Security Agency as Assistant Deputy Director of Operations (Operations and Military Operation Integration) and Deputy, Central Security Service, Fort Meade, Maryland. She followed with as assignment as the Director of Intelligence, J-2, Headquarters, United States European Command, Stuttgart, Germany. As Director of Intelligence, Barbara was in charge of U.S. Military operations and training in a thirty-one country area, including Europe, most of Africa, and three countries in the Middle East. She oversaw intelligence operations in both Bosnia and Kosovo. She was selected for Major General and designated to move to Fort Hauchuca, Arizona. Since July 2003, Barbara has be