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Another Pledged Delegate For Obama

31 Mar 2008 09:14 pm

Mississippi has recalculated -- Obama's margin of victory is above the 62.5% threshold, and so he adds a delegate and Clinton gets one taken away.

That means that Obama's pledged delegate lead is now at 169.

Comments (17)

Link please?

Source, please?

And what about Texas?

Haven't you heard, Marc? Clinton says the pledged delegates aren't really pledged.

Therefore, it's really not a win for Obama. Or something.

Yeah, Hillary will end up stealing them away in the dead of night...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Here are two links that give more of the back story. Looks like a plain old citizen noticed math errors in the final Mississippi numbers, and Obama will end up at 20-13 instead of 19-14.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5330945#5331099

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5237601

Pledged delegates don't matter unless they are from California, New York, Arkansas, Tennessee....

My favorite part when a Clinton surrogate rattles off that list of states Hillary has won is that they always get to the end because she has won so few states.

Brian
http://www.politicalinaction.com

I find it incredible that a non-official math nerd discovered this problem (thanks for the links, Billy). A regular person just accounted for 2 delegates all by himself. Wow.

Billy - I'm glad you posted those links over here. I saw that original post on Monday, March 24. I'm going to post from it over here:

"Thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-24-08 04:30 PM
Original message

Barack picks up a Hillary pledged Mississippi delegate? (Math nerd alert!)

OK. So I spend a lot, and I mean a lot, of time on conference calls. Hours and hours a day. So, I pore over numbers and double check on things just for grins -- keeps me awake!

So, ever since the election in Mississippi, I have been following the numbers as the official results came in (having had the good news from California be my spur on this point). I think something has changed.

Enough about me -- let's see if I am right.

First, a recap:

After election night, everybody called the delegate split 19-14 Barack. This was based on the following:

Cong. Dist 1: 3-2 Hillary
Cong. Dist 2: 5-2 Barack
Cong. Dist 3: 3-2 Barack
Cong. Dist 4: 3-2 Barack

7 Statewide at large delegates: 4-3 Barack
4 Statewide PLEO at large delegates: 2-2

The election night total for Barack was 255,809 (62.16% vs. Hillary)
The election night total for Hillary was 155,686 (37.84% vs. Barack)

Although many of the splits were close, the one that stood the best chance of flipping, as I saw it, was the statewide PLEO split because Barack only need to break 62.5% to get a 3-1 split there.

Well, the results kept trickling in. I followed them on a district by district basis, hoping something big would happen (it didn't).

Then today, for the first time, the Miss. SOS posted the statewide recapitulation they had received from the democratic party. The numbers made me want to cry. Barack's new total was 265,370, Hillary's was 159,273. When held side by side (as you do in Miss., I believe) Barack now had 62.493%. CRAP. I pouted for a while, then decided, in the middle of another conference call, to compare the statewide recapitulation with individual county recapitulations (I kind of like that word - "recapitulation"). As I did, I found two counties whose numbers were different on the statewide summary as opposed to the county certification, as follows:

Hinds County actually voted 342 more for Obama, and 37 more for Clinton, than the statewide sheet showed.
Jackson County actually voted 210 fewer for Obama, and 89 lower for Clinton, than the statewide count.
Net changes: Obama +132, Clinton -52, total vote change (between the 2) +80.

Because I'm not wise to the ways of Mississippi and its vote recapitulations, I called the State Democratic Party. Their guy on the phone pulled the sheets I was referencing and said "You're right. We'll change those numbers right away."

GUESS WHAT?!? Obama's statewide vote total is (or will soon be) 265,502. Hillary's is (or soon will be) 159,221.

That means Obama's percentage is 265,502/424,723, or 62.512%. Barack will get 3 PLEO delegates to Hillary's 1!!!!!!

Barack wins Mississippi 20-13!

-Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I've got to go, another conference call is about to start."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5237601

Whoever Thevoiceofreason is, he was also helping the Obama campaign out as an attorney re the Clinton challenges during the Texas County Conventions over the weekend.

Obama is fighting a two front war and hes only down to McBush by 1%!!! That's what I call real strenght!

Why is McBush not able to pull away when he has a free hand and no challengers??

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105907/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Keeps-Lead-Over-Clinton-51-43.aspx

Drip, drip, drip ...

Hey all. This is me. One of my friends on DU noted that this was starting to gain a little traction and pointed here. I think the Mississippi Democratic Party was getting tired of me calling them, so they just did it. Actually, I was very impressed with their willingness to review their initial "final" records, acknowledge the oversight, and fix it. That took more guts than anything else.

Peace, and GOBAMA

Jeff, you're also getting a shoutout at dKos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/31/22053/1834

Hey Jeff (thevoiceofreason), it's the not the traction here that's important - it's the traction you made happen. Way to go!

Way to go, Jeff.

Too bad, Rush.

Pardon my naivete, but is that 27:25 split in Alabama right, given the 56:42 split in the vote? I know that the two aren't directly linked, but that's a bit extreme... Does every district in the state have an even-number of delegates?

My First Post here.

Excellent Jeff aka thevoiceofreason. Go Obama.

Jeff, two thumbs up. I knew having people who like math move toward the candidate who accepts math could only be good.

Marc, thanks for including the present split of pledged delegates. So if Clinton picks up a net of 10 in every remaining state (which isn't remotely slated to happen), she's still well behind....