« Florida and Michigan Update | Main | The Obama Doctrine » Duelo En Borinquen24 Mar 2008 02:40 pm The front page of San Juan's top Spanish-language daily features a gorgeous photograph of the Clintons accompanying an article about an upcoming visit by Bill Clinton to the commonwealth.
The DNC's rules and bylaws committee today is expected to make official PR's June 1 primary, with 63 delegates at stake. It used to be a caucus -- hmm. Gov. Anibal Acevedo-Vila has endorsed Obama, but much of the island's progressive establishment is expected to line up behind Sen. Clinton. Comments (20)
Here are some questions I have on the Puerto Rico primary that I think we would all love answers to. Does anyone know how the Puerto Rican pardons in 2000 play in Puerto Rico? Or, for that matter, how Clinton's distancing of herself from those pardons will play there. Is Puerto Rico split into districts? Are those districts even numbered or odd numbered? If there are no districts, how are the delegates allocated? My understanding is that 8 of the 63 are supers. Who are they? Given that Puerto Rican turnout is traditionally very high for local elections, does anyone have any idea what sort of turnout we can expect numbers wise and how might this affect the popular vote total? Thanks and keep up the great work! 
"Gorgeous photo?" Geez... Wouldn't "flattering" have sufficed?
Marc is just trying to get under our skins. He wants to be sure everyone knows who runs his blog. If he wants to unabashedly spin for Clinton, he's making sure we know he can. You win, Marc. Looking forward to seeing more Obama-trashing clips from right-wing snakes here any time now.
Gorgeous? To me, it looks like Bill's copping a feel
Marc, you're a fat version of Ben Smith. Go suck on the Clinton teet a little more.
Marc, Seriously folks. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You aren't doing our boy Obama any good.
Marc, Seriously folks. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You aren't doing our boy Obama any good. Lance
Marc, Seriously folks. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You aren't doing our boy Obama any good. Lance
Wow, these comment threads increasingly read like FreeRepublic.com circa 1998.
Couple of points: The comments on the article were quite interesting. The earliest comments were mostly about how Clinton didn't do anything for Puerto Rico when he was President, he didn't even visit, he went to St. Thomas instead. As the thread went on there were a few comments about African Americans and their relationship with Latinos, and a few about the Muslims in Obama's life, then that turned into back and forth on those issues. Interesting thing from the article. The PPD, the pro-"commonwealth" party is deciding whether to make an endorsement. The governor is from the PPD, so he could have a big effect. If the PPD endorses Obama, that would be a big blow for CLinton. The PNP Democrats managed to win a lot of legislative primaries, but the PNP Republicans won the executive primaries, so the PPD will probably have more of an effect on the Democratic primary. I'm not entirely sure how the pardon issue will play out accross the island, but my impression is that it was more popular in NY than PR, because vocal "Nuyoricans" _tend_ to be more radical than vocal Puerto Ricans. I haven't found a good source for how the delegates are alloted. Green Papers lists 8 districts, 7 with 4 delegates and 1 with 5. My uninformed opinion is that even if Clinton wins a lot of pledged delegates, she won't make up much ground in the popular vote. If there is a really large popular vote, I think that bodes well for Obama because it means a lot of young, new voters are there. We'll see.
Marc - Hope you'll report on the clemency Bill Clinton provided for the FALN PR terrorist group in 1999 so that Hillary would get the much needed Puerto Rican vote in her run for New York senator that year.
I think it would be totally awesome if Clinton squeaked out a pledged delgate victory on the back of a win in Puerto Rico - a place whose votes don't even count in the Presidential election.
Why in the world would a progressive line up behind a Clinton?
Why in the world would a progressive line up behind a Clinton? Because of her advocacy of universal healthcare, and because of her unwillingness to parrot GOP talking points on Social Security, and because she will be a stronger candidate in a general election against the moderate, highly experienced John McCain.
Alexis, great comment! Thanks for your insight. "gorgeous" photo of the clintons was, um, kind of vom as far ad descriptions go.
There's Bill, the old groper......and is Hillary
Adam Nagourney writes in yesterdays NY Times, "Along the same lines, Mrs. Clinton would get some wind if she trounces Mr. Obama in the June 3 contest in Puerto Rico. Mr. Obama has had trouble in competing for Latino voters. And that has been duly noted by Mr. McCain’s aides who said they are beginning to see a general election upside — among Hispanic voters in a contest against Mr. Obama — to the problems that Mr. McCain’s support of immigration legislation caused him in the primaries. (That is one reason why the endorsement that Mr. Obama won last week from Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, who is one of the country’s leading elected Hispanic officials, had significance going far beyond the Democratic nominating contest)." Okay. I have some questions about a premise of the cited paragraph from this column. It has been generally argued that Latino voters are not a monolithic voting block and that seems even truer when you consider Puerto Ricans. Can the Puerto Rican vote in any way be compared to the vote of Latinos from Mexico and South and Central America? And why is immigration raised as an issue in the cited paragraph when Puerto Ricans are American citizens and can move anywhere in the USA that they want to move to. And how much influence does a Southwestern Latino like Bill Richardson have on Puerto Ricans whose culture is vastly different than the Southwestern Latino culture. Can someone explain to me how this makes any sense? I, too, wondered about why progressives would line up behind Clinton? That seems like Obama's audience.
I believe that Obama wins Puerto Rico. Demographically, Puerto Rico is much more like the Virgin Islands or Hawaii than it is like New Mexico, say. there are for example, many people of mixed European and African descent- just like Obama.
I am giving my Vote to Obama and I feel that the great majority of my fellow Puerto Ricans will do the same... We have no faith in the Clintons; they had their time in office and did nothing with it but showed how to disrespect the White House with an adulterous affair; one that allowed the world to see their broken family foundation, disloyalty, and disrespect. Today, the family foundation is deteriorating; we need someone, not only with an apparent strong family structure but a person with new thoughts and new visions for America… I feel that Obama is that breath of fresh air.
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I'm officially sick of this primary. And you've killed my appetite for the turkey on rye I got, lol. When will the madness end!
Posted by Rhoda | March 24, 2008 3:12 PM