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John Brennan: A Conspiracy Of None

22 Mar 2008 05:44 pm

Two e-mails from two Clinton supporters pass along this CNN brief about the company that employed a state dept. functionary who snuck a peak at Barack Obama's passport application.

Turns out that the owner of one of the companies is John Brennan, one of Barack Obama's chief advisers on intelligence policy. (The others are Lee Hamilton and Tony Lake.)

Conspiracy?

Actually, no.

It's more interesting that that. Let's broaden this out.

Brennan is one of many former intelligence community heavyweights to have started his own consulting firm after leaving the government. These firms employ hundreds of thousands of Americans in jobs requiring access to sensitive, Secret, Top Secret, or even Top Secret Codeword information.

There's a big debate in the community right now about contracting: how much oversight is enough? Should the contractors be subject to the same rules as federal employees? Are their jobs that contractors shouldn't do? Should the IC admit that it has outsourced many of our nation's most critical jobs to non-government employees?

Also: what's the quickest, safest and most efficient way to vet these employees.

In this case, the employee was subjected to a "national agency check," which is essentially what the Secret Service performs on folks whose friends get them those extra-special White House tours. That is, their names are run through federal databases to see if anything untoward pops out. Most "Secret" clearances are processed with a national agency check and only a little bit more investigation.

Most folks in the intelligence community want contractors to have easier access to raw intelligence products and have urged reform of the security clearance process. That's where another Brenann connection comes in. He's the chairman of INSA, the Intelligence and Security Alliance, a very well-regarded think tank consortium funded in part by companies who have IC business.

One wonders whether a President Obama would be more likely, or less likely, to support a more rational security clearance system after these indiscretions.

NB: Brennan was most recently in the news for breaking with Obama over telecom immunity. Brennan supports it; Obama does not.

Comments (46)

Just another example of Obama's hypocrasy

Um, Marc...

You forgot Stanley Inc... where two contractors accessed Obama's records and were fired. That company is owned by a contributor to the HRC campaign, Philip Nolan (CEO). That company had a contract with the State Dept. since 1992 and has some interesting connections to Arkansas.

I'm not saying this is a conspiracy but it is too early to believe anything coming out of the campaigns trying to put this to bed. There's an investigation on-going.

Interesting analysis at:

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/21/794799.aspx

Darlene: IT'S SPELLED HYPOCRISY and that refers to Sen Clinton --

The firm that employed the two contract employees who were FIRED for going into Sen Obama's files in Jan and Feb worked for a firm owned by a Hillary Clinton supporter --that is the STANLEY company - whose owner has donated to and is a Hillary Clinton supporter

The third person who last week looked into both Obama and McCain files was not fired - as of now -and works for the ANALYSIS corp which is the firm Marc refers do

Marc: kindly post this update to your story so people who only read your front page see the facts

We all wait to see the results of this now FBI led investigation

Link:
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/21/794799.aspx

Darlene: IT'S SPELLED HYPOCRISY and that refers to Sen Clinton --

The firm that employed the two contract employees who were FIRED for going into Sen Obama's files in Jan and Feb worked for a firm owned by a Hillary Clinton supporter --that is the STANLEY company - whose owner has donated to and is a Hillary Clinton supporter

The third person who last week looked into both Obama and McCain files was not fired - as of now -and works for the ANALYSIS corp which is the firm Marc refers do

Marc: kindly post this update to your story so people who only read your front page see the facts

We all wait to see the results of this now FBI led investigation

Link:
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/21/794799.aspx

Darlene: IT'S SPELLED HYPOCRISY and that refers to Sen Clinton --

The firm that employed the two contract employees who were FIRED for going into Sen Obama's files in Jan and Feb worked for a firm owned by a Hillary Clinton supporter --that is the STANLEY company - whose owner has donated to and is a Hillary Clinton supporter

The third person who last week looked into both Obama and McCain files was not fired - as of now -and works for the ANALYSIS corp which is the firm Marc refers do

Marc: kindly post this update to your story so people who only read your front page see the facts

We all wait to see the results of this now FBI led investigation

Link:
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/21/794799.aspx

Hey Darlene, you hear that sound? It's the sound of your uninformed attack falling apart into pieces.

This is to the blog owner. Please update the blog so it refers to the other connection as well as Analysis.
The other one is Stanley Associates.

By the looks of it you are blaming Obama for this. That is flat out un-fair.

Hey Darlene, you hear that sound? It's the sound of your uninformed attack falling apart into pieces.

Yup.

Especially when "alison" hits "post" three times with almost the exact same post as "kai in LA"- and they are 4 of the first 5 responses- and the 6th calls it "uninformed"!

Face it! It was merely a resident of "Obamanation" who was looking for any "potential" problems.

You forget that John Brennan is a high level advisor to Obama, part of his campaign, and who have 23,000. Stanley is not a active member of the Clinton campaign and only contributed 1000. Also Stanley was fired. Why John Brennan was not?

Actually, as someone who is currently in the process of obtaining "Secret" clearance, I have to say that it is not cursory at all. It is extremely intrusive, requiring about 20 hours of work from me to get information and fill out the appropriate forms and then to write detailed summaries of all overseas travel activities and detail all contacts with foreign nationals and then have a four hour interview with an investigator. The only basic difference between a "Secret" and "Top Secret" clearance is the time frame. "Secret" only goes back 10 years. "Top Secret" goes back 15. There are of course other forms of "Top Secret" clearance that are more intrusive and require polygraph tests, but those are pretty much restricted to NSA, DHS and FBI.

The CNN headline is completely misleading, as is yours. As others have said, why isn't anyone headlining the fact that the two employees who breached the records FIRST were working for a company whose CEO supports Hillary. It is clear that the media continues to try to undermine Obama so this nightmare of a Democratic race continues. I cannot believe what the Clintons get away with, and the media just plays right into it.

All you Democrat-Socialists do is "fight" to the death.

Meanwhile - the real issues ALL (ALL = regardless of so-called party and/or candidate affiliation) of Us "American Serfs" want addressed with concrete ideas/plans like Jobs, Communist China, Economy, Nuclear Iran, America First - Government 2nd, America First -American Globalists Selling Off America 2nd & Ending the 20 Year Fiefdom of the Bush-Clinton Dynasty .... Goes Unanswered. Good research but its a diversion (again). Onward!

Oh yeah .... "Those That Rely On Government Will Be Sadly Disappointed".

Bigger Government Running/Ruining More of America is Bad.

The two Stanley Inc. employees were instantly fired, and the breaches occurred under a Clinton appointee (and I realize she's career, but career State employees promoted to appointment positions tend to be loyal to their boss -- it's the difference between being hired by HR and being promoted to an executive by a CEO). The TAC employee was NOT fired.

Now, some of you seem to think it's a conspiracy that the TAC employee was fired while the Stanley Inc. ones were because TAC is somehow being protected.

The OPPOSITE is true. The Stanley employees may well have been fired to stymie any potential inspector general investigation. It's really simple for the IG to interview, check the background and contacts of, etc, the TAC employee since he is still at State. The Stanley employees, however, will require FBI investigation.

This situation is going to be complicated and perhaps both companies are to blame. But at lease the Stanley employees were fired. The ones in TAC were not, which proves higher negligence, bias, not to mention strategy from TAC. Also realize that the “trainee” who accidentally inspected Clinton’s passport was an employee of TAC.

It seems to me that this outsourcing is a problem! I support Senator Obama, and I'm glad it seems that he thinks for himself--he doesn't change his vote based on this supporter who is favor of telecom immunity. I hope there's an investigation into these firms, and into how the State Department is looking into this.

Typical silly season stuff to try to pin this on Clinton (or Obama) in my mind.

A few points worth noting: the Stanley employees, the ones connected to Clinton, looked at the files of Obama and McCain. Gee, I wonder why?

And the earlier incident in 2007, by the other company, TAC, may have been indeed a case of a curiosity seeker.

The more recent breaches, may indeed have been an attempted political dirty trick by the Clinton camp.

So the 2 are not necessarily connected. Also, nice to see a member of the press take their cues from Clinton supporter emails.

cm:

It's my understanding that the first breach, generally agreed by all to be a mere curiosity seeker (and engendering INSTANT notification of the Clinton campaign), was by a State employee, not TAC or Stanley.

The second two breaches on just Obama (which were swept under the rug) were Stanley employees.

And the fourth breach, of both Obama and McCain was the TAC employee -- and is what made public the first two earlier breaches this year.

And of course, noteworthy is that Maura Harty retired in the time between the third and fourth breach.

Just a caveat here, after all of that:

I think the most likely explanation right now is that there is nothing really to all this other than incompetence and evidence of the lunacy of outsourcing critical government jobs.

I just think that were this something nefarious, it seems far more likely that the Clinton campaign is involved and his making hay of any links it can to the Obama campaign for cover.

Actually, as someone who is currently in the process of obtaining "Secret" clearance, I have to say that it is not cursory at all.

I second that. It took Uncle Sam forever(over a year) to get my background check done when I was on my way in to the Air Force.

Thanks Seth for the clarification. And given the low credibility of the Clintons, does anyone find it unbelievable that the Clintons would sponsor a look into Obama's private passport file?

Maybe that's how they came upon that picture of Obama in native African garb that they released in a lame attempt to put down Obama?

The Clintons are now at least equivalent to Bush and Cheney and Nixon in terms of an utter lack of ethics. The Clintons have officially become a public menace to our society.

Upps also its out in TIMES MAGAZINE...Obama is in hot waters...

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/03/passport_to_trouble.html

I do agree with Seth that sometimes we can let our thinking regarding conspiracies get away from us.

But I do think there is something we can all agree upon: the Clintons have lost the trust and faith of the American people. That is why a Clinton conspiracy seems very reasonable. That is why a Bush conspiracy seems very reasonable. That alone makes Hillary Clinton unfit to lead this great country of ours as president.

Lets see a guy that works for a guy who works for Obama breached the files, yeah how does that imply Obama was in on it, lets see last I checked an employee is not required to have the same political views as his boss, nor is he required to voice them to his boss before being hired, this guy who breached the files may work for an Obama supporter, doesn't mean that he is one.

In addition he is one of the three people to breach Obama's files, people working at another company, stanley also breached the files, seems to me that they were no working for someone who works for Obama, so how does that work out for you guys, seems to me that this serves no purpose in the investigation but to confuse the stupid people out there, granted there are a lot of them, some even on this board, who don't seem to realize that an employee of someone doesn't need to support the cantidates their boss does.

Darlene, paleo-feminism went out of style Bella Abzug died. You're stuck in the 70s honey. Hillary is done. Forever.

One of my sources, just said that David A. offered a deal to Mark P. The gist, as I could barely hear on my mobileTV phone, goes something like this:

Mark P. -- What can you offer us?
David A. -- You get out, and we shall see.

MP: No, we will stay and we will beat you. Make an offer.
DA: Okay, if you get out, we will consider giving HRC a place in the convention.

MP: No, that is no enough. What about WJC? Give him a cabinet spot? Support HRC as someone to succeed Harry R. as Senate Leader. What about HRC in Supreme Court?
DA: We cannot predict the future. BHO supports Harry. It is upto the senate to decide. Regarding the Court, we are not sure. Did not HRC fail the bar? WJC in the cabinet will put undue focus on past scandals.

MP: So, you cannot offer us anything? How about a job for me? I can be a White House pollster.
DA: Laughs (on the phone), falls down, and swallows his chewing gum. He is in ER in Eugene, OR.

We can only hope Obama can overcome the establishment attacks. The Clintons are as low as they go.

To Gracie Lou Freebush:

actually the post I wrote printed three times because we were have a power outage and I didn't think it went through so kept clicking

I don't know you KAI in LA is-- but obrviously they are "brilliant" amd informed

Alison from Florida
(a real person!)

PS:I remember your name -- was that "Petticoat Junction" or "Dukes of Hazard" -- try something believable like "Sarah Lou Clintonsdone"

Round and round and round we go with you
partisan idiots arguing about which of your
two "candidates" is the LEAST venal, the LEAST
vulnerable in the election, the LEAST culpable
for campaign no-nos. Why don't you bring in
someone new to carry the banner....someone with
no baggage.....like....hmmmmm...I'm at a loss for words. So are the bigwigs that run your
racist, sexist, fractured party. Your Big Tent
is collapsing before your very eyes.

There are two companies envolved:

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/21/794799.aspx

A)Stanley Company - According to federal campaign records, Stanley's Chairman and CEO, Philip Nolan, has made political contributions to prominent Republican candidates and also gave $1,000 to Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign on Feb. 20, 2008. (Is he a Limbaugh operation chaos fan?)

B)Analysis Corp - John Brennan, the CEO of the Analysis Corp, gave $2,300 to Sen. Obama on Jan. 28, 2008, the records show. He is an advisor to the Obama campaign.

Telecom immunity has always been there. NACs go with No Fee passports.

From ABC News:


"Following her mother’s victories in Ohio and Texas earlier this month, Chelsea Clinton took a break from the trail, as well, and has been catching up at work at her hedge fund job in New York City."


I like to have a hedge fund job like hers that allow her off to campaign whenever she feels like....

I wonder how many trading positions she had 'open' while she was away...

Let me guess, she was long on Bear Sterns week before last?

Even Fannie Fox had to show up for work to collect her 'pay', but I guess not the future Senator Chelsea.

LOL at D. And yeah, these past few months have been a particularly good time to take a vacation from a hedge fund job, eh?

Seriously, though, no one actually think she actually does anything at that job, do they? I mean, other than meet and greet with clients and such.

Jeebus is there a lot of wrong information -- exaggeration -- and stupid comments on this matter.

The statement released by Brennan's company on Friday says that the State Department just told them about the incident that same day...and State asked them NOT to fire the employee (presumably while the investigation continued.)

http://www.theanalysiscorp.com/docs/dosissue.html

According to press accounts...Brennan donated $2300 to the Obama campaign...not $23,000 as some knucklehead above states.

These are pretty big companies...sometimes their employees do dumb stuff. It is silly to think that everything is a big conspiracy or directed from the top.

If you think that the person in charge of a big organization MUST know everything that is going on below them....then you Hillary supporters must accept the notion that she is responsible for every dumb act and comment by her supporters and McCain and Obama are like-wise behind every action and comment of all their fans, volunteers, staff etc.

This is such a non-story. Get a life.

Jeebus is there a lot of wrong information -- exaggeration -- and stupid comments on this matter.

The statement released by Brennan's company on Friday says that the State Department just told them about the incident that same day...and State asked them NOT to fire the employee (presumably while the investigation continued.)

http://www.theanalysiscorp.com/docs/dosissue.html

According to press accounts...Brennan donated $2300 to the Obama campaign...not $23,000 as some knucklehead above states.

These are pretty big companies...sometimes their employees do dumb stuff. It is silly to think that everything is a big conspiracy or directed from the top.

If you think that the person in charge of a big organization MUST know everything that is going on below them....then you Hillary supporters must accept the notion that she is responsible for every dumb act and comment by her supporters and McCain and Obama are like-wise behind every action and comment of all their fans, volunteers, staff etc.

This is such a non-story. Get a life.

Rational readers should know that the scientologists over at the Daily Kos have a geek squad that rushes to attack any reporter or writer with the courage to criticize "The One".

After a while you'll notice similar talking points and repeated links to, gee, Pro Obama blogs.

They're all over this story.
i can't blame them really...for many it's the first time they've voted.

Dear Senator Hillbilly:

It has come to the media's attention that Chelsea Clinton is apparently holding a full time job at a hedge fund while she is campaigning for you nearly full time.

Under such circumstances, would it not be unfair to say that the hedge fund is in effect, making a whopping campaign contribution by paying the salary and benefits of Chelsea when in fact, she works not for the hedge fund, but for your campaign?

Would you be kind enough to let us know whether such an arrangement is legal or does it in fact breach the law that prohibits corporate contributions to campaigns?

Sincerely,

Your valued fact checker.

IOW, he's a lobbyist. Maybe not categorically defined registered federal lobbyist, but a lobbyist nonetheless ... as are many (most?) of Obama's prominent military endorsers.

Myeehhh...eventually Chicago Barry is going to get busted with one or other of his corrupt freinds and aquaintances.

At that point his passport will be REVOKED, and all this concern will be redundant.

Ok...Obama hires this John Brennan guy as his security expert and a John Brennan exmployee goes ahead and does the passport breaching and the snooping? Obama is so incompetent. If he wins the nomination it will be with just 50-something delegate lead. No mandate at all. A very weak democratic nominee indeed.

Am I missing something here?

The information in a passport file is personal, private information, not a "raw intelligence" product. Therefore, absent a warrant, it should be off limits even to individuals with security clearances unless they have a need to view the records as part of the performance of their State Department job duties.

In other words, unless the presidential candidates are considered national security threats or their records are critical to a criminal investigation, their private records should be off limits to anyone (including those with security clearances) unless viewing those records is specifically related to department-sanctioned job duties.

The problem in this case, it seems, is that the individuals viewing the records did so outside their job descriptions at State -- be they federal employees or contractors.

So it seems you're mixing apples and oranges here in this analysis.

Here's what the State Department said Friday about who is allowed access to the records:

The passport records at issue here are protected by the Privacy Act of 1974. That Act generally prohibits non-consensual disclosures of personal information about U.S. citizens from a Privacy Act system of records, unless an exception applies. One exception permits officers and employees of the agency who have a need for the record in the performance of their duties to review and use the record. Likewise, Department regulations permit contractors who have a need to review a record the same access as employees.

However, access to passport records by contractors who do not have a need to know the information would violate the Privacy Act. In this case, Department policies make clear that passport records can be reviewed only for official reasons. [Empasis added.]

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Darlene, say what you know. Right now, you know nothing.

It's all Hillary's fault, of course! Every time Jesus Obama gets in trouble, it's Hillary's fault. I know it's too early for head chips so I am just going to go with entrancement. You Obama people could see the guy waterboard somebody and you would find an excuse for him. The man is a fraud. How many hits do you need in order to get it?

It's all Hillary's fault, of course! Every time Jesus Obama gets in trouble, it's Hillary's fault. I know it's too early for head chips so I am just going to go with entrancement. You Obama people could see the guy waterboard somebody and you would find an excuse for him. The man is a fraud. How many hits do you need in order to get it?

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Well....this has been entertaining to read. It was truly amusing to see you all get WAY off topic.
First of all;
John Brennan is the President and CEO of TAC, therefore he pretty much cannot be fired. Not to mention he had nothing to do with the issue at hand. Yes one of these people is an employee of his, and yes he screwed up, like anyone is perfect at their job. With that said, what has been tangibly hurt by all this. Oh that's right; NOTHING.
Now that this is clear, you all can go back to your lives hopefully with a little more knowledge than before. Thank you.