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04 Mar 2008 11:48 pm

11:42: Obama puts focus on McCain; McCain "has seen where George Bush has taken our country and he promises to take us on the very same course..."

11:40: HRC leads by 35,000 votes in Texas with 51% in...

11:38: Obama: "Well, we are in the middle of a very close race right now in Texas..." Obama concedes to HRC in Rhode Island and Ohio... "No matter what happens, we have the same delegate lead as we did this morning..."

11:36: HRC is leading in Ohio by 225,000 votes -- 16 percentage points -- with 71% of the vote in. This margin will shrink somewhat, but not that much.

11:28:

Clinton's Victory In Ohio: The Credits:

Executive producer: Maggie Williams
Writers: Mark Penn, Mandy Grunwald
Edited by: Howard Wolfson and Phil Singer
Producer: Guy Cecil
Director: Robby Mook
Production Manager: Karen Hicks
Cinematographer: Jay Carson, with Doug Hattaway and Isaac Baker and Mo Ellethee
SNL sequence by: Philippe Reines
3:00 am ad: Mandy Grunwald and Mark Penn
Secret advice by: Lanny Davis

11:27: HRC to Obama: "I look forward to continue our dialog.."

11:24: Header of news release from the Pennsylvania Republican Party: " PA GOP: HIDE YOUR WALLET AND TAKE COVER! LIBERAL DEMOCRAT INVASION IS OFFICIALLY COMING TO THE KEYSTONE STATE"

11:20: HRC crowd tonight seems as pumped as a regular Obama crowd....

11:19: HRC: "No candidate has won the White House without winning the Ohio primary...."

11:16: HRC: "This nation is coming back and so is this campaign. ... We're going on, we're going strong, and we're going all the way!"

11:08: Clinton campaign official disputes my sense that Obama will net delegates tonight.

11:08: Hillary Clinton has called John McCain to congratulate him on his nomination.

11:03: Obama aide: "Well, people got Missouri wrong too."

10:58: Joyful Clinton aide: "We were outspent 3 to 1!"

10:57: CBS, CNN, Fox call Ohio for Clinton.

10:52: Even with these HRC leads in TX (narrow) and Ohio (wide), Obama has about an 8 net delegate lead in those two states at this point. UPDATE: Forget that last part. I was looking at bad numbers.

10:50: HRC has an 180,000 vote margin in Ohio now with 50% in. Still no Cuyahoga County tho.

10:48: The tide is turning for HRC in Texas...

10:29: A reader's spreadsheet suggests that HRC is winning 60% of the non-early vote in Texas.

10:28: In Texas, Less than 10% of counties in Bexar are reporting.

10:20: Yet to report in from Ohio: most of the major cities and their suburbs, which explains, in part, why Hillary Clinton's margins are so big there. Half of Franklin Co. (Columbus) is in...Very little in from liberal Lorain Co...

10:15: Here's an audio link to the Clinton campaign conference call crashed by Obama general counsel Bob Bauer.

10:13: With a third of the vote counted in Ohio, Clinton holds an 120,000 vote lead, or 16 percentage points.

10:12: Note that Austin, Houston, Dallas haven't reported in yet in Texas.

10:11: Clinton won late deciders in Ohio by 22 points.

9:59: CBS's Dante Higgins notes that John McCain's TelePrompTer has failed.

9:58: Many of the early vote "precincts" in Texas have largely been counted, and the election day precincts are beginning to allow Hillary Clinton to close the margin with Barack Obama. But a lot of the bigger counties haven't counted their early votes yet, so the margin could widen in Obama's favor again.

9:51: McCain claims victory; thanks

"Republicans, independents, and independent-thinking Democrats."; "respectful, convincing and determined case...that...our campaign...[is]...in the best interest of the country we love." "I understand the responsibilities I incur with this nomination, and I give you my word, I will not evade or slight a single one. I will leave it to my opponent to claim that they can keep companies and jobs from going overseas by making it harder for them to do business here at home. We will campaign to strengthen job growth in America by helping businesses become more competitive with lower taxes and less regulation. ... There are others just as urgent, and during this campaign I'll travel across the country in cities and rural areas, in communities of all ethnic backgrounds and income levels, offering my ideas and listening to the concerns and advice of Americans. Americans aren't interested in an election where they are just talked to and not listened to; an election that offers platitudes instead of principles and insults instead of ideas; an election that results -- no matter who wins -- in four years of unkept promises and a government that is just a battleground for the next election. Their patience is at an end for politicians who value ambition over principle, and for partisanship that is less a contest of ideas than an uncivil brawl over the spoils of power.

9:50: RNC official confirms that McCain is its nominee presumptive;

9:47: Obama calls McCain

9:27: CBS News's Bill Plante reports that McCain will have lunch with Pres. Bush tomorrow and will then appear with him at a Rose Garden press avail.

9:20: CBS News: Clinton wins Rhode Island.

9:19: Huckabee concedes. "We aren't going away completely..."

9:14: Reader: K.B: writes: "Does John McCain clinching of nomination tonight have an impact on the psychology of the Dem supers? Do they see him cross that threshold and begin to feel that they need to step in now to close down their contest too? Does it make the coalescing around a winner more urgent in their minds after they see this?"

9:00: McCain Clinches Nomination

8:56: Obama Attorney Crashes Clinton Call

8:52: Reader D.B writes: "That early vote advantage Obama has is with a sample size that's roughly the size of the entire '04 primary turnout. It's certainly far more significant than 1% reporting. I'm not a network, but I think it's statistically unlikely enough that Clinton is going to be able to close that gap that we can safely call the TX primary portion for Obama due to that huge early vote advantage -- not with exit polls running them essentially even. Texas is done. On the primary side at least."

8:50: CBS News's Maria Gavrilovic reports: "The Obama campaign is projecting a Democratic primary turnout of more than 3.6 million. They point out that Kerry only had 2.8 million votes in the general. Also, Obama appears to have won the early vote in Tarrant County (Fort Worth area), which is a big Republican area. They are projecting 59-40…noting that they can win the support of Republicans and Independents who are crossing over."

8:44: Statement from Obama Ohio mgr Paul Tewes:

"“Due to reports of ballot shortages in Cuyahoga and Franklin counties, we requested a voting extension in those counties. The judge granted our request to extend voting in a number of Cuyahoga county precincts. We are working to ensure that every Ohioan who wishes to cast a ballot today may do so."

8:42: NBC News: Huckabee to concede tomorrow; George W. Bush to endorse McCain tomorrow; RNC to anoint McCain tomorrow.

8:39: Extremely savvy Texas political observer e-mails: "Look at early vote in TX -- O crushing HRC in big urban centers." (See: http://www.quorumreport.com/ and click on Daily Buzz.)

8:37: RNC may issue statement if McCain crosses threshold...today or tomorrow.

8:35: Caucus Problems In Texas

8:18 pm: A reader writes:

I, along with about a hundred + other Ohio lawyers volunteered to serve as credentialed poll observers for the Obama campaign today (see Ambinder entry about Paul Tewes letter). There was a systemic problem with provisional ballot envelopes and our precinct ran out around 6 o'clock. We had, at first 5, then 10 then 20 people who were waiting 15, then 30, then 45 minutes while my precinct judge was on the phone with the Board of Elections who kept promising envelopes were on the way (they never arrived). So I got on the phone with another lawyer in a neighboring precinct who confirmed that they had plenty of envelopes - I put my precinct judge in touch with her and she was able to go over there and pick up the envelopes. We got over 20 people in just before the polls closed that otherwise would have probably left without voting. Hillary had no such lawyers serving as observers. That's why he's got an edge and that's why this campaign is where it is.

8:09 pm: Hearing that..the Obama campaign has convinced a judge in Cuyahoga County to keep 20 precincts that ran out of ballots open until 9 p.m. So those previously closed polls are being re-opened. Unconfirmed and unverified at this point.

Comments (40)

Two things. Fox News' Major Garrett (I think that's his name) reported this at 8 and seemed to have actually gone to the courthouse or talked to someone inside, so it's a pretty solid story. (Fox's line reporters, I hate to say, are pretty good).

Second. Why does this keep happening? Can't planners take the most optimistic projections and triple them???

Better yet, foolishly assume that everyone eligible to vote might show up and have enough ballots. Print them on recyclable paper, if enviros are worried.

One story I still feel the media is underreporting: the fact that Republicans are in some measure crossing over to vote for Hillary because they know she will be the weaker general election candidate.

That is huge; if someone did that with Hillary's opponent, they would be making quite a fuss over this and using it to prove their candidate's worth.

Also, if Hillary wins Ohio and/or Texas, esp. closely, it will be because of these sinister Republican votes. Now that's a story...

I would counter the lawyer by pointing out that he falls precisely into Obama's core of support - highly educated and wealthy. Hillary's core supporters are neither equipped and probably do not have the time to volunteer as they have to support their families. So kudos to Obama for taking advantage of his supporters, but I wouldn't credit him with some great wisdom when he's got the advantage with the wealthy smart white guy vote.

Obama is trying to keep Ohio close and deal a knockout blow in Texas.

Tie goes to the front runner.

Brian
http://www.politicalinaction.com

cm - the reason the media isn't reporting it is because it's not true. Exit polls are showing Obama winning independents and Republicans while Clinton is winning among Democrats. If there's a story, it's that the outsiders are telling the Democratic party who to nominate and Obama will win without the support of the public in his party - just the wealthy and powerful.

How did you find out the lawyer was a white guy just from that e-mail? that's pretty impressive.

Glad Obama's folks got Cuyahoga County to stay open. I grew up there and remember well the shenanigans and sketchy deals that were (and are) a staple of Northeast Ohio politics.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

I never said he was white. I pointed out he was wealthy and well educated. I said that Obama's core constituency - after African Americans of course - is the wealthy well educated white guy, which of course consists of the majority of lawyers.

MSNBC just had a whole segment crediting Hillary winning barely in Ohio through the 3AM ad. Not one of the high priced talking heads or producers aware that the ad never ran in Ohio.

I saw the ad. I don't live in Ohio or Texas. I do use the internet, though, and that's where I saw it. Maybe Ohioans go online as well.

re: Texas

LOTS of Hillary-friendly counties have yet to report while Obama's bases of strength have reported in. This race is still wide open, but I'm estimating we've seen about 20% of the votes we're going to see and it's definitely an uphill battle for Hillary the rest of the night.

Fort Worth (Tarrant) is not only fairly Republican, it also has a large Hispanic population. Incidentally, it was also the location of Speaker of the House Jim Wright's seat, and was represented by a Democrat until DeLay redistricted it away.

Based on the Obama predictions of 3.6 million primary voters, the early vote numbers represent 23% "reporting."

Also remember that most polling includes corrections for early voters. I don't think you can call it until we start to see the vote returns

A state Democratic official in Texas predicted that turnout in the Democratic primary would exceed the record of 1.8 million set 20 years ago. So Obama's current lead of about 90,000 votes out of over 900,000 cast is pretty big. If 2 million Texans vote in the Democratic primary, Clinton would have to win about 54% of those votes that have not been counted to win the primary.

As I wrote those words, HRC gained a net 25,000 votes on Obama's lead of 114k or so. So, like I said, wide open with lots of Hillary-friendly environs left to report.

Terry McAuliffe has assured me throughout the day today that Hillary is going to win both OH, and TX. He just assured me again, at 8:30pm EST. Terry? Are you there? Terry?

I agree with D.B. on Texas but for slightly different reasons. Clinton is making up the early vote in rural Texas - she's already gained 6 points since the early numbers went up. But the cities are where he's winning big and those returns aren't coming in til later. So expect to see results swing to Clinton to make it about even, then go back to Obama.

Don't fault the networks for the 1% thing, they can't figure out what the actual turnout is b/c that % is precincts reporting in, and having precincts report early votes doesn't mean that those precincts are "in". If you want the real %, take the million votes that have been counted at this writing and divide by the 3.6 - 3.8 million number being tossed out by the Obama campaign. That's 27 percent.

Patrick,

You're forgetting that all the news outlets, especially the cable stations, gave Clinton's "phone ad" at least several million dollars worth of free airings.

The mythical "Obama bias" strikes again...

You beat me to it, rcipw :) The tracking polls asked voters whether they voted early and so should have folded that into their analysis. And for most voters, early voting just shifts the timing of their vote, not the vote itself.

STILL, if these early voters would have otherwise flipped to Hillary or just stayed home due to NAFTA-gate, the 3AM ad, Rezko, or whatever, then early voting represents a net gain for Obama.

"Obama cheats."

Translation: "We had no idea what we were doing in Texas, and the Obama campaign did."

If the Obama campaigns highest case turnout happens in TX (3.8m) then he still needs 48.6% of the remaining vote (2.8m) to have a popular vote win. It's too close...

CNN and CBS newly released exit polls show Clinton wins Texas 51-49.

I wish D.B's analysis was correct, but I'm afraid I have to agree with several of my fellow commenters: the Texas primary is still wide open.

In fact, Obama's current lead is hardly a lead at all: his strongholds appear to be urban areas like Dallas, Houston, and Austin, while Clinton is incredibly strong in the valley and (presumably) in El Paso, where the polls just closed. The urban areas seem to have reported the early vote more thoroughly and quickly than the other areas around the state, and I suspect that this difference accounts for most (if not all) of Obama's current margin.

Additionally, although exit polls aren't exactly reliable, they still are probably more informative than our current, geographically distorted patchwork of returns. Current tabulations seem to show a dead heat, possibly with Clinton up by a point or two.

(By the way, D.B, you need to learn a little about statistics: a big sample size is only meaningful if it's a representative sample. When there are such enormous regional disparities in candidate support, naively looking at early returns will get us nowhere.)

hurray.. Bush to endorse 71 year old war monger McCain tomorrow. Let us be ready with all the cameras.
So, republic party nominates a flipflopper who stands on wrong side of the issues!

McCain is for 100 years of Iraq war.
He wants to bomb Iran.
He was against torture before he was for it.
He broke his own campaign finance law.
He is "in bed" with lobbyists.

Overall he is Bush-Cheney on Steriods.

Let us have a choice

John Bush-Cheney McCain Vs Obama
old Vs young
fear Vs change

Klaus,

Sounds like the reporting of the ad had much more effect than the actual ad. Or maybe the lack of reporting on Obama's response ad.

As for the idea that Ohioans saw the ad online, maybe. But Hillary draws old women and under-educated, not exactly netizens.

The way I'm doing the math: (allow for some bad estimates, but I think should be pretty accurate)

~4.5 million voted on the Dem side in CA.

Accounting for relative population, this means Texas should have ~3 million votes on the dem side.

For argument sake lets say its 3.5 million because so much importance and focus has been placed on Texas.

Early voting seems to be around the 1 million mark, looking at the numbers on CNN. Over 1 million total are in and they report 3% reporting (assume a majority of these are early voting)

Obama has an 80k lead.

80k is 2-3% of the expected 3 -3.5 million total votes.

Given that, Hillary will need to win the rest of the votes (i.e. today's polling votes) 51-49 to 52-48.

Does this add up for you guys?

Hey James, how did you know I was wealthy (yea, that was my email). My mom's a waitress and I work at Legal Aid - I'm a year out of law school. 10-1 says I make a lot less than you. That said, you did nail the white guy prediction. You win some, you lose some...

Yes, it looks like Clinton may win Texas by a small margin, but will she win the delegate count?

The CBS exit poll when extrapolated out is a dead heat in the popular vote --

and with Obama winning the counties with more delegates he should take the delegate count

Obama will definately win the caucuses - first caucus reported has a 27 pt adv to Obama

The only question will be if Clinton wants to do the right thing for the party

(marc: I read you all the time and never till tonight and the slant of your blogging really understood why everyone said you were pro Hillary -- can you at least make an attempt to write neutrally tonight? Reread it -- a 'reader" sends in a apreadsheet?? I can send you in a spreadsheet that Obama wins Ohio -- doesn't make it right --)

All the numbers aside, I think the big question is whether or not tonight's results will leave the Clinton campaign feeling optimistic enough to soldier onward, and will the superdelegates refrain from pulling the trigger for Obama?

I expect we're going to get a ton of spin in the morning....

Mark, the reason the tide is turning in Texas is because the votes are starting to come in from Bexar County, where San Antonio is located. About 30 percent of the precincts have been reported in the last half-hour, and that's padding Hillary's lead. On the other hand, we've heard very little from Obama's strongholds around Dallas, Houston and Austin. The Houston area in particular is going to be critical. I wouldn't read too much into the numbers until we start seeing those precincts report. Remember what happened in Missouri.

"...and we're going to Pennsylvania! and Kentucky! and Puerto Rico! and then we're going to the convention and we're going to pull every string we can to get the automatic delegates to pick the candidate with the fewest states won! and less of the popular vote! and far fewer pledged delegates!!! and less of the momentum!! and then we're going to tear this party apart and lose the general election!!!! YEEEEEARRRRGHHHHHHH!!!"

Why do I get the sense that by nights end Ohio will become another MO?

I can't bear to listen to HRC's "victory" speech. Looking at her margin in Texas, which should swing back once the big cities report, BHO still has more delegates. She is winning: white women over 50 and rural and working class whites, including Latinos among that extended base. That's basically it. Is this the future of the Democratic Party? If she finagles the nomination, I think BHO should run as an independent with Bloomberg or someone else and win it or make her lose. This is not my Democratic Party. I wish there was some real leadership at the top of this party that could put the end to this egotistical dynasty making.

Ha..ha...what a lame argument about Ohio and the primary. As Yglesias points out, the reason why no Dem has not won the OH primary and gone on to win the WH is that by the time the OH primary usually rolls around, the race is decided.

I also hope the Obama people work the spin hard and are more agressive than the Hillary sharks.

And they have to put Hillary back on the defensive. Perhaps keep asking her where her tax returns are...that should be a basic disclosure of any candidate by now. If they had pursued this more aggressively in OH, they would have done better.

At this point all gloves are off.

Agreed, now that the media has signaled they will faithfully carry Clinton's water without question, Obama needs to turn up the heat. The media will continue to chastise themselves for the mythical Obama bias while working as Wolfson's stenographers and race/religion-baiting without abandon. The goal is character assassination and if Clinton is going to be a willing participant, Obama should return the favor.

If she finagles the nomination, I think BHO should run as an independent with Bloomberg or someone else and win it or make her lose.

If she finagles the nomination by any means other than winning out or a superseding event, such as a disqualifying revelation that leaves the party with no legitimate alternative to putting her over the top, then I'm leaving my ballot blank on the first Tuesday in November --on which day white men will elect John McCain the 44th President of the United States.

In the end (with Texas still to come): Where Clinton is scrappy and petty, Obama is inspirational and profound. She went after him with yet more of her typical negativity, trying to belittle him, but he is not to be belittled. He is one of the truly great political figures of our time, a commanding presence, the leader America needs, the leader the world needs, and he occupies a far grander place than the ugly space of smears and insults that is hers.

http://the-reaction.blogspot.com/2008/03/live-blogging-super-tuesday-ii.html

Hillary Clinton battered Obama all week with distortions, misinformation and lies, and Ohio, and Rhode Island bought into it like mindless sheep. The bottom line is that Obama will still have more delegates and more money tomorrow, and all of America will turn off their televisions to take a pass on her claims to empty victory.

Obama supporters will stay the course till we take him to the White House and restore our country to greatness with honest leadership, integrity and judgment.

Congratulations Ohio and Texas you have managed to screw us all over. Seriously. If you think voters had buyers remorse on Obama just wait until Texans and Ohioans give this one a good thought.

Starting to seriously lose my respect for Ohio. Every 4 years or so they manage to screw the nation over by being stubbornly idiotic about who they're going to vote for (generally whoever starts out ahead in their state), whoever managed to lose them the most jobs (Richard Nixon, George H.W. Bush the first time, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush), whoever is most "like" them (Bush, Clinton, etc.), whoever is the least charismatic (this is why they had a hard time choosing between Clinton and Bush), whoever's white, and whoever Cleveland doesn't go for.

Would cite the fact that 1 in 5 people in Ohio voted based on race, but not even sure if this is a racial thing anymore or if it's just kind of a big f-- you from the rest of the state to Cleveland or Cuyahoga County. (This is the same county where they just couldn't quite stay open long enough for all the minorities to vote in during the 2004 election.) Again think this might be more some type of atonement to the nation for having Cleveland than a racial thing.

Ohio: Bill Clinton lost you innumerable jobs and destroyed the industrial basin of the country and your state. Way to vote for your spouse. This Iraq War that's taken such a toll on all of us. Yeah she voted to authorize that too.

So when she's sitting in the White House taking us to war with Iran (please at least google the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment before you tell me she won't do this) and you STILL don't have any jobs in Ohio please do not come whining to the rest of us.

Unlike Florida in the 2000 election, the rest of the nation was willing to give you, Ohio, a pass over 2004. You have now lost that pass and are officially the dumbest state in the union. Thank you.