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Obama's Religion

13 Mar 2008 12:51 pm

13% of those surveyed believe that Barack Obama is a member of the Muslim religion, according to the NBC News / WSJ poll.

(H/T, Campaign Spot.)

The number will probably decline by the fall, and intuitively, I'd assume that most folks who haven't taken the time to learn about Obama's background probably aren't Democrats.

Comments (27)

That's not bad. In my experience, about 5% of people in any survey will indicate they believe any crazy idea you can think of, so 13% is most of the way toward the irreducible craziness level.

Agreed, that's pretty good, considering some astronomical proportion of Americans can't name the Vice President of the United States. I'd wager that number is less than the percentage who don't have any clue who Barack Obama is.

Only 37% answered correctly, Protestantism. 44% refused or didnt know.

Um, the number used to be 8%, so Hillary's plan is working...

neilrlca,

Sorta, but the correct answer went up from 18 to 37 in the same timeframe. So, a lot more people (about 4:1) learned the right answer as opposed to the wrong answer.


The survey should have asked what % of the electorate think Hillbilly is the anti Christ.

Want to make a bet? by the end of the 2-month Hate, more than 30% will believe he is a Muslim. Part of the 50+% that believes we found WMD in Iraq and that Saddam was behind 9-11.

If I was a betting person, I'd take that bet. At the current trend, it looks like this number will likely top out at about 20%, and I suspect trend back down from there.

DTM:

I think as long as that number stays at or below 20% it shouldn't be a major concern. As others have observed, I doubt many of those folks would be that inclined to vote for Barack Obama in any event.

Interesting results from Gallup daily tracking poll:

Obama 46%
McCain 44%

Clinton 47%
McCain 45%

Those results make perfect sense. Clinton is better known than Obama so she has slightly more support and slightly more opposition.

The state of the primary:

Obama 48%
Clinton 46%

This thing isn't over.

Oh, and here are some numbers from Arkansas:

University of Central Arkansas poll:

Clinton 51%, McCain 36%

Obama 27%, McCain 43%

The strongest evidence yet of either Democrat turning a "red state" blue.

Yes, Tim K, but Arkansas is hardly representative. The people there know Hillary well, and are well aware that she is a better Republican than McCain. Plus she's ruthless as hell and will work, as always, to leave the Wal-Mart spigot on full-blast.

Craig:

Arkansas still has 6 electoral votes. If Gore had carried it he'd be in his 8th year as president. She would probably be stronger in rural Missouri, Louisiana and in Tennessee as well. So both candidates can appeal to different states that voted for Bush in 2000/2004. The only difference is this is the only southern state I am convinced either candidate could carry (Clinton, but not Obama).

By the fall, Obama and his supporters will probably WISH he was a Muslim. Given the off the wall, BLACK POWER, Afro-centric, nature of the "Christian" church he adopted, and the BLATANTLY RACIST demeanor of the leader of that church, Jeremhia Wright Jr.

The state of the primary:

Obama 48%
Clinton 46%

This thing isn't over.

You'd be right if it were a national primary to be decided in the near future with Obama's 160 delegate lead erased.

Obama's 160 pledged delegate lead is important, but not controlling of the outcome on its own. There are approximately 800 super delegates, including 350 who had yet to announce any preference. If Clinton wins the popular vote she will win this race.

At this point we know that 1) Obama will end the contest with the most pledged delegates, 2) Obama will likely end the contest with the popular vote tally, 3) Obama will end the contest with the most money and greatest fundraising potential, 4) Obama will end the contest with the most states, 5) Obama will end the contest with the best poll numbers against McCain, and 6) Obama will end the contest with the most primary state victories and caucus state victories.

So what's left for Team Clinton?

Kelly:

You're most likely correct with #1. With #2, there is a good chance Senator Clinton can win the overall popular vote. #3 is not how we decide who the nominee is, it's not one dollar one vote like the NASDAQ. #4 is completely irrelevant to deciding who the nominee is. #5 your crystal ball notwithstanding we have no idea who will be performing best in match-ups with John McCain by the end of this contest - right now Clinton and Obama are performing equally well (as per Gallup, Rasmussen and NBC/WSJ).
#6 is also irrelevant... how many Idahos does it take to equal one California? The answer is clear.

What's left is this contest isn't over until every state has voted or one candidate receives 2,024 delegates.

To say that Mr. Obama being muslim is crazy proves to many people with intelligence that you and your opionions are stupid. It would be better and more intelligent to say that it is not probable that Mr. Obama is muslim because he says so and you believe he would not lie. That statement would actually be intelligent; this is why so many people who don't take stupid polls know that no one REALLY knows for sure, we can only go on his word, that's it! And if you believe everyone on their word no matter what's at stake then you are just plain naive. We are long, long (since 911) past the stage where we should be naive about anything.

99% of that paltry 13% is composed of people who would never vote for Obama anyhow, so who cares what dimwitted notions they have or are pretending to have? Most of them would probably also insist that Hillary is a lesbian who murdered Vince Foster and Al Gore made up climate change theory to sell books and carbon credits.

Tim K,

Nope, she isn't going to get nearly enough superdelegates to overturn Obama's pledged delegate lead, barring some external event. And, in fact, she won't win "the popular vote" either, although there is really no such thing.

Tim K,

There is virtually no chance Clinton will win the popular vote. http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2008&base_name=popular_vote_reality_check#comments

You're right Martha, no one can be just taken for their word. You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet either, because that would just be plain naive. You shouldn't take everything Hillary Clinton says for her word either-that would be naive too.
The point is, if you know you can't take people for their word, then you should do some research on the internet, using credible sources, on Barack Obama. Did you know it was Clinton's own volunteers that started the email that accused him of being Muslim? That's a fact.
He's not Muslim. The only reason why so many people even question whether he's Muslim is because of his funny name and his race. And he is different from the average politician. So they are suspicious of that. If you actually researched his background, you would find that there's no more reason to believe that he is secretly Muslim than is there reason to believe that Hillary Clinton is secretly a lesbian.
He was born to an African father and white mother. His mother was a white woman from Kansas. His father left when he was 2, and he never knew his father. He was raised by his mother and grandmother in Hawaii. His mother was an anthropologist. He went to Columbia and Harvard where he was president of the prestigious magazine The Harvard Law Review. He graduated in the top 1% of his class at Harvard. He worked as a community organizer for the neighborhoods of Chicago. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for 10 years. He briefly worked as a writer. He served in the Illinois state senate for 7 years, and the national senate for 3.
He has written two books, Dreams of my Father, and The Audacity of Hope, which are great reads. If you are curious about him, I recommend them.

Martha,

There is plenty of evidence outside of Obama's statements to confirm he is not a Muslim. But actually, on the question of religious belief, someone's statements really are the best evidence, because no one knows better than that person what he or she does believe. In that sense, it is a little like relying on someone's statement that he or she likes chocolate ice cream, but is not fond of strawberry. Of course we treat such statements as authoritative.

What you are actually suggesting, of course, is that Obama is lying. Accordingly, the burden shifts to you to prove it is likely he is lying. And if you can't do that, then we have every reason just to accept his statement of what he believes.

At this point we know that 1) Obama will end the contest with the most pledged delegates, 2) Obama will likely end the contest with the popular vote tally, 3) Obama will end the contest with the most money and greatest fundraising potential, 4) Obama will end the contest with the most states, 5) Obama will end the contest with the best poll numbers against McCain, and 6) Obama will end the contest with the most primary state victories and caucus state victories.
So what's left for Team Clinton?
Posted by Kelly Pierce | March 13, 2008 2:48 PM
Kelly:

You're most likely correct with #1. With #2, there is a good chance Senator Clinton can win the overall popular vote. #3 is not how we decide who the nominee is, it's not one dollar one vote like the NASDAQ. #4 is completely irrelevant to deciding who the nominee is. #5 your crystal ball notwithstanding we have no idea who will be performing best in match-ups with John McCain by the end of this contest - right now Clinton and Obama are performing equally well (as per Gallup, Rasmussen and NBC/WSJ).
#6 is also irrelevant... how many Idahos does it take to equal one California? The answer is clear.
What's left is this contest isn't over until every state has voted or one candidate receives 2,024 delegates.
Posted by Tim | March 13, 2008 3:08 PM

Reality check people! The only thing all the infighting that’s going on in the Democratic Party is doing is making it very clear John McCain is a sane and reasonable alternative but he’s not a GWB clone. He’s pandering to the Neo-conservative movement in his bid to win the general election… If and when he’s sitting in the Oval office he won’t be a GWB clone that man is going to do what John McCain wants to do. Simple fact is he’d be a one term President he’s in good health but over seventy years old. I happen to think GWB will go down in history as most likely the worst President ever.

I honestly don't think the Clinton's realize the amount of damage they are and could do. To the Democratic Party, the only way Clinton can "win the nomination" is by what many consider cheating with the Florida and Michigan BS or to Destroy Obama she’ll win the battle and lose the war!

The American Public is better informed than in any election before this. Senator Clinton has only proven that she can get the support of the Democratic Party establishment which is shrinking on a daily basis, win big delegate states that are already firmly in the Democratic camp and tear apart the Democratic Party.

Anyone who honestly believe that she's going to be able to unify the county is looking at the world through Clinton colored glasses... The status quo of four more years of bitterly partisan politics will do just as much if not more damage than four more years with a Republican in the Oval office. Thanks to Hillary “Ramrod” Clinton being so desperate to get the nomination. She has brought to light the rather unpleasant truths about how the “Democratic Party” selects its Presidential nominee into the Media spotlight if anyone thinks the world isn’t watching that are sadly mistaken.

Here’s the next point Hillary Clinton has no hope in the General Election against John McCain. She has put all her eggs into one basket as she’s so fond of saying “Experience to do the job from day one” The problem is a great deal of that experience is greatly exaggerated. John McCain has far more experience that isn’t exaggerated than Hillary Clinton has…

Let’s use the egg analogy again each bit of experience is an egg. Clinton’s experience is exaggerated and somewhat fragile like an eggshell. McCain not only could but would take each bit Clinton's alleged experience crack it on the side of the skillet and fry it. Then anything that was left over of Clinton after, he would proceed to grind up into sausage and it serve as a side dish.

I've heard Pastor Wright, I've seen Pastor Wright
and Mr. McCain, you are no Pastor Wright.

13% believe Obama is a Muslim. 95% believe that
Hillary knew about Bill's philanderings. 50% of
Democrats are hypocrites....and the rest don't
know what the word means. So much for critical
numbers this campaign season.

Why do you assume the number will fall, Marc? Two thirds of Americans still think Saddam personally knocked down the twin towers.

People have a surprising resilience to false information.