« HRC Records To Be Released Tomorrow | Main | Bell Curve Author On Obama Speech » Rush Limbaugh Reacts To Obama Speech On Race18 Mar 2008 12:53 pm On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh said that Barack Obama was now "the candidate of race." He said Obama "is not an agent of racial healing, he is a product of it." He accuses of Obama of wanting to be the nation's racial-healer-in-chief, rather than its commander-in-chief. Limbaugh can go there... I don't know if John McCain can, or will. Comments (191)
You're wasting bandwidth to tell us what Rush Limbaugh thinks? 
I thought Obama's description of the black church experience was really important, although no one is picking that up. It sounds like black churches ROCK. They get it all out. Maybe that's why they don't have to discharge their hate like Limbaugh.
Unsurprising. Limbaugh is one of those guys who's built a career out of divisiveness and partisanship. There's no way he's going to acknowledge the validity of Obama's comments.
What do you expect him to say, "great speech"? It is a waste of time to even cite reactions by agit-propagandists like Limbaugh and Hannity
Now I understand speech is MORE IMPORTANT than action. Obama is really good at talking gold out of trash. American people are so easy to be FOOLED.
Rush and those like him are most threatened by unity in the country. Of the candidates Obama is the one sincerely seeking unity. Unity puts Rush out of work. Too bad society isn't rational enough to put him out of work no matter what because he is a lethal force against good.
"But Rush is a closet racist" Closet?
And seriously, is being healer-in-chief a bad thing ?
Limbaugh can go there... I don't know if John McCain can, or will.
American people are so easy to be FOOLED. Posted by Jackie Ling | March 18, 2008 1:04 PM Yep...Bush fooled them alright.
He is a racist. Nothing more needs to be said.
Rush and The Clintons would like to somehow make Obama's candidacy all about race. He is the "race" candidate. If you want to do something about "race" vote for Obama. But If you want to do something about the other issues facing us - you need to vote for someone else. They keep trying to box him in. Contain him, marginalize him as a person and as a candidate. And they will use every occasion to try to emphasize that point of view. But it is not so. It never was so and in a couple weeks we will no longer be talking about race in the same way as we are today. We'll be talking about jobs, and health care, NAFTA, and the Surge and Iran and Clinton's tax returns and White House schedules.
Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut.
Joe: "But Rush is a closet racist" He does mask it, just because we see it differently doesn't matter. How else would Ambinder get away with continually referencing him?
Rush Limbaugh can go lick his mom's cunt. Piss on him!
Rush Limbaugh is one very prime example of why our country is very disliked around the world! He is an embarrassment to our country,an egomaniac, and a person with no sense of right and wrong. It sickens me that he has an audience that actually listens to his malicious, venomous attacks. I am hopeful that his days are numbered--that soon Rush Limbaugh will find himself ignored and deflated as he fans the flames of stupidity in this country!
See, fundamentally if THAT is the way the right wing radio decides to respond to this than it was a good day for Obama. Because he has fundamentally good policies, good presentation, and a sound campaign. So really, if that is the take away from the Wright controversy then they will be able to wrap this up fairly well. But mostly for now, it's going to come back again in emails, viral video, and talk radio in the form of discussions of patriotism come the Fall.
The business model of the Rush Limbaugh show is predicated on having us vs them food fights. Barack Obama's message is a threat to the polarizing environment that feeds Rush and much of the MSM for that matter. Hence Rush's support for HIllary Clinton. He needs a foil....and Obama is not a great foil to get riled up against. And so they have to go after Wright because Obama is so hard to demonize.
ElRushbo makes Hannity somewhat look reasonable in comparison. And ... honestly Marc. Did you think that Rush wouldn't find a reason to dislike Obama when HE got the precipice? It'd be like a cat passing up a mouse.
wait, did no one parse what Rush said? According to Marc, Rush said Obama "is not an agent of racial healing, he is a product of it." So...Rush's attack is that Obama is a product of racial healing?? hilarious.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find out that Rush Limbaugh is panning a brilliant speech by a leading Democratic contender for the White House.
Heres the trick though. So Rush had it partially right, but mostly wrong.
Totally predictable. Rush is a jerk and his whole career is built on creating dissension and trying to marginalize anyone with an opposing viewpoint.
What does David Duke think about Obama's speech?
"Heres the trick though. So Rush had it partially right, but mostly wrong. Posted by Daniel" Americans can't afford to put gas in their cars, food on the table or pay the utility bills not to mention paying for health care or a clean environment [And some have much more pressing concerns]. Meanwhile when obama is not whining about some panty sniffing fantasy he is busy trying put out brush fires his campaign started. Despite the fawning "liberal media" the wheels are come off.
Did we get any reaction from the Aryan Nation yet?
What I found fascinating was that Limbaugh had such a hard time leveling meaningful attacks on Obama's actual speech that he resorted to standard ultra-rightwing talking points about big government and liberal social policy. It will be interesting to see how this all develops with the news cycle, especially with the (somewhat) less inflammatory conservative commentators like Hume, Hannity, et al.
If anything Rush has become predictable while Obama has not. Shame on me for thinking Rush might shock us all and actually give Obama credit for addressing the problem head on. For giving an honest assessment of Wright and his relationship with him and even going beyond and explaining why whites may harbor resentment. They never caused black slavery or greif. But Rush is just typical Rush. He cant see any good in his political enemies.
What I see is that Obama have emerged as a man who can unite America on race and help heal wounds of race. Admit...mistakes have made in the past and this is the time to move on and unite the nation. Wrights statements are regrettable but are mostly facts. We need to help minorities to feel better ……Obama can unite this great nation.
What I see is that Obama have emerged as a man who can unite America on race and help heal wounds of race. Admit...mistakes have made in the past and this is the time to move on and unite the nation. Wrights statements are regrettable but are mostly facts. We need to help minorities to feel better ……Obama can unite this great nation.
What I see is that Obama have emerged as a man who can unite America on race and help heal wounds of race. Admit...mistakes have made in the past and this is the time to move on and unite the nation. Wrights statements are regrettable but are mostly facts. We need to help minorities to feel better ……Obama can unite this great nation.
This speech highlights why we need a man like Obama to be our President. Thoughtful, intelligent, inclusive, the best ideas America has to offer for moving forward together as one Nation, under God. We have an opportunity to do some things now that have not been possible for other Presidents. Our Nation is ready for change in a new and hopeful direction. If we learn to trust each other and learn to work together we will again become the great nation of hope that we have been in the past.
hadenough: Your brilliant political insight is a marvelous thing. Clearly, the only two things that Obama does is bitch and put out fires. Oh wait, there are all those policy discussions in a frank and open tone. That's something else. I wonder if he eats at any point too.
Some body wrote here.
Rush can't say anything positive about Obama. His radio listeners would revolt against goodness at the RL show. hehehehe
America needs a uniter to unite the nations of the world, not a divider like Hillary.
Bravo Obama
You have comments here that I would not allow on my blog. Hateful, racist, and vulgar. On Obama's speech, you either love in or laugh at it, for me it was pathetic, the bit about his grandmother did it for me, why did he have to trash his own grandmother, thumbs down.
Rush Limbaugh has gotten rich off of dividing Americans. I bet he'll try to divide the occupants of hell when he gets there. What did anyone expect him to say about Obama's speech. I used to get upset, now I just smile and feel sorry for such ignorance and arrogance. I pray for the Americans in this country who care more about race than they do their children's future in this country. Most of the anti-Obama comments posted here come from those who have lazy, uneducated thoughts! In a way, I'm glad Rev. Wright's offensive remarks have been broadcasted throughout America. It has exposed the ignorance and arrogance of those who think they are the deciders of this country.
Wonderful speech. My father say's the most racist things in my eye. I don't agree with it, but I love him and he loves me. Great Speech, I truly admire Barack Obama
Wonderful speech. My father say's the most racist things in my eye. I don't agree with it, but I love him and he loves me. Great Speech, I truly admire Barack Obama
"hadenough: Your brilliant political insight is a marvelous thing. Clearly, the only two things that Obama does is bitch and put out fires. Oh wait, there are all those policy discussions in a frank and open tone. That's something else. I wonder if he eats at any point too. Posted by Aaron" Policy discussions? Would that include obama saying troops out of Iraq and then power telling us that's just campaign talk? Would that include a nafta re-do that gloosbee tolds us was just camapaign talk? How about 'fixing' social security or leaving millions out of health care?
Mark, why do you pay attention to Rush anymore? It's like checking in to see what David Duke's take on life is. Best to look away and not encourage the carpetbiter
I don't know...do you think Rush makes less sense when he's on oxy-contin or when he's off? Follow-up questions: How can you tell? And does it matter?
Rush is usually has a bit of thinly vield racism in him , but the fact of the matter he would dissagree with what Obama says anyway. Short of switching to the Republican party , re-enacting Jim crow, doubling taxes on the poor and middle class while giving millionaires tax breaks and marching off in to Iran next week there would be no other way for Rush to react. Even if Obama were white ,Rush would attempt to torpedo the idea of unity , and civil discourse because goodwill, building up America and positivity are not his forte'.
you mean he stopped popping the pain pills long enough to say something intelligible ... i guess he had to if former pressident had to be on his show to step in for his girlfriend in a schoolyard brawl ... the shamelessness of those two and the prospect that she is able to twist anything she wants and have the press run with it because her husband got her a senate seat ... she hitched her cart to the wrong horse ... the guy was impeached for the love of god and country ... why do either the former president or this demigogue of hatred receive so much attention ... they're both way off the mark
What does Rush and other have to offer in an effort to solve racial divisions or race relations?
Barrack Obama is a poser. He did not respond to this when it came up..he took a few days so his Speech Writers could come up with this. All fluff and no substance as usual. He ought to apply for a cheerleading job, not President. Who cares about Wright? BO Attends a hate mongering "church" with ties to radical Islam. Many black churches are this way, and I have attended them on occasion. All they talk about is race...I have never seen this is other churches. If predominately white churches were used to further the white cause, it would be labeled KKK. The ACLU would be bitchin and moanin as usual. I am in Atlanta, and I wonder why no one addresses black racism against whites, which has been rampant here for the 20 years I have lived here. Blacks are dishonest about it. Listen up when a white woman walks into a place with a black man. Blacks come unglued. You ought to see Blacks against Hispanics here..the violence and crime toward them is unbelievable.
Obama says he is an agent of change but black people will never get a fair shake as long as the teachers union remains the most powerful union in the US and dominates the democratic party. The teachers union represents teachers, not students.
Kudos to those of you who saw this speech for what it was and not what you want to make it out to be. I am a registered Republican but even I can see when someone is trying to be sincere. If you could feel your way around to only find fault or ulterior motives in this speech then you simply have too much time on your hands. You people need to get off of it already!!! All this black, white, red state, blue state trash is just that, TRASH!!! Pull yourself off of the curb and free your mind. You would be surprised how much better you'd feel when you drop that heavy burden of "us vs. them" mentality!
Kudos to those of you who saw this speech for what it was and not what you want to make it out to be. I am a registered Republican but even I can see when someone is trying to be sincere. If you could feel your way around to only find fault or ulterior motives in this speech then you simply have too much time on your hands. You people need to get off of it already!!! All this black, white, red state, blue state trash is just that, TRASH!!! Pull yourself off of the curb and free your mind. You would be surprised how much better you'd feel when you drop that heavy burden of "us vs. them" mentality!
I really don't know what to think about some folks in the media. This election is bringing out all the true racists of this country with sean hannity and rush limbaugh leading the march. How can rush limbaugh (lower case until he becomes a respectful person)say condemn the fact that Obama wants to heal the racist nature of the country......by condemn that good deed aren't you in effect saying you think it should stay racist? and by saying that Aren't you saying that you (rush limbaugh) is indeed a racist? Now let's tackle the race issue.......some whites don't like blacks...this country didn't belong to whites in the beginning so how can anyone stake that much claim to a country that they didn't find. Also when you trace back history....The Garden of Eden has NEVER even been discussed about being in a European country...it would be somewhere between Africa and the Middle East......So all the racist whites in this country that claim to be christians.....Are you in fact racist against Lord and Savior that doesn't orginally have the same color of skin as you do???? WAKE UP!!!
Kudos to those of you who saw this speech for what it was and not what you want to make it out to be. I am a registered Republican but even I can see when someone is trying to be sincere. If you could feel your way around to only find fault or ulterior motives in this speech then you simply have too much time on your hands. You people need to get off of it already!!! All this black, white, red state, blue state trash is just that, TRASH!!! Pull yourself off of the curb and free your mind. You would be surprised how much better you'd feel when you drop that heavy burden of "us vs. them" mentality!
G-d D--n Obama.
Its amazing. We admit that slavery existed for over 400 years, we admit that Blacks were beaten, raped, and categorized as animals 100 years ago, we admit that Blacks could not sit on the front of a bus less than 50 years ago, and we know that today Black/White education, income, and incarceration gaps persist today. Is it too far fetched to state that even today, these things have deep negative psychological effects on America as a whole, especially upon the direct targets of these oppressive actions: African Americans? Many of the Americans who crafted segregationist laws and were raised by those standards -Black, White, and other-still today hold political offices, CEO positions of companies, pastoral postions in churches, etc… It is those individuals in power positions that establish the overriding system of standards, values, and morals we accept as a country. By virtue of American history from slavery to now, How can this country NOT have racism and oppresion woven into the fabric of its culture? The interesting thing is that I see this as fact, while most other white americans view these facts as hate filled speech….Its time for a change.
Forget Rush, I want to see Bill O'Reilly's response. Who has the bigger audience? I'm not sure, but O'Reilly definitely has a large one. O'Reilly has shown moments of intelligent discourse (an appearance on Maher's comes to mind), so I'm willing to bet he's at least capable of giving props. If Obama wasn't a presidential candidate, and he didn't make this speech in the Wright context, the right-wing pundits would be tripping over themselves to say, "Look, even Obama says blacks should start taking account of themselves!"
Rush is amazing---in a negative way. We admit that slavery existed for over 400 years, we admit that Blacks were beaten, raped, and categorized as animals 100 years ago, we admit that Blacks could not sit on the front of a bus less than 50 years ago, and we know that today Black/White education, income, and incarceration gaps persist today. Is it too far fetched to state that even today, these things have deep negative psychological effects on America as a whole, especially upon the direct targets of these oppressive actions: African Americans? Many of the Americans who crafted segregationist laws and were raised by those standards -Black, White, and other-still today hold political offices, CEO positions of companies, pastoral postions in churches, etc… It is those individuals in power positions that establish the overriding system of standards, values, and morals we accept as a country. By virtue of American history from slavery to now, How can this country NOT have racism and oppresion woven into the fabric of its culture? The interesting thing is that I see this as fact, while most other white americans view these facts as hate filled speech….Its time for a change.
Obama's greatest attribute is that he makes people think, just as he does. He challenges people to use their brain to come up with ideas and solutions to make this country a more perfect union. It is this novel approach that people should actually use their brains and think about what they say and do that scares the pants of people like Rush Limbaugh. Obama is an enabler. He empowers people. Limbaugh is a controller. They are polar opposites and a perfect reason why someone like Limbaugh would use every weapon at their disposal to try and destroy someone like Obama. Hate always wants to destroy hope. It is an age old truism.
Its amazing. We admit that slavery existed for over 400 years, we admit that Blacks were beaten, raped, and categorized as animals 100 years ago, we admit that Blacks could not sit on the front of a bus less than 50 years ago, and we know that today Black/White education, income, and incarceration gaps persist today. Is it too far fetched to state that even today, these things have deep negative psychological effects on America as a whole, especially upon the direct targets of these oppressive actions: African Americans? Many of the Americans who crafted segregationist laws and were raised by those standards -Black, White, and other-still today hold political offices, CEO positions of companies, pastoral postions in churches, etc… It is those individuals in power positions that establish the overriding system of standards, values, and morals we accept as a country. By virtue of American history from slavery to now, How can this country NOT have racism and oppresion woven into the fabric of its culture? The interesting thing is that I see this as fact, while most other white americans view these facts as hate filled speech….Its time for a change.
Jim Henderson, You may or may not be a racist, a black man and a Liberationist, but one thing is for certain - you are an asshole.
Rush Limbaugh has become rich by voicing the values that people who work for a living and are building businesses (e.g., creating jobs) know to be valid: that America's most important asset is its opportunities for people with a dream and a work ethic to get ahead, regardless of their ethnicity. To accomplish his mission, Limbaugh uses a common rhetorical device: hyperbole. His show is entertainment, with no intention to be considered news. Most of you posters have not even listened tot his show, but you heard about him from somebody else ... who probably has not listened to Limbaugh, either. I have listened off and on since 1988. While I only agree with him about 50% of the time, I have always been entertained by his topical humor, his acerbic wit, and Paul Shanklin's excellent parodies. I challenge you all to listen to Rush Limbaugh for a week, then you will be qualified to voice an opinion. There is nothing quite as sad as a person who is indignant out of ignorance!
Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut. Rush should be working at Wallmart or in a Trailer Park with a Shure Mic. You are a waste of band space. Can never some up with any good stuff. Obama is what this Nation needs why do people look at race we r all people some good some bad. I think he would make us happy to be living in the US. We where loved during WW2 and now people hate us becasue of Bush! Our polices to the middle east r why we have so many probelms. Make freinds dont spill blood! All the billions and lives gone for what? Mr. Kim in NK still has nukes? But Iran and Iraq. Baby Bush thinks Iran is going to come in to Iraq and really give us a 1 2 punch. Make peace with Iran and work with the probelms hear at home. We r going to hell in a hand basket.
Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut. Rush should be working at Wallmart or in a Trailer Park with a Shure Mic. You are a waste of band space. Can never some up with any good stuff. Obama is what this Nation needs why do people look at race we r all people some good some bad. I think he would make us happy to be living in the US. We where loved during WW2 and now people hate us becasue of Bush! Our polices to the middle east r why we have so many probelms. Make freinds dont spill blood! All the billions and lives gone for what? Mr. Kim in NK still has nukes? But Iran and Iraq. Baby Bush thinks Iran is going to come in to Iraq and really give us a 1 2 punch. Make peace with Iran and work with the probelms hear at home. We r going to hell in a hand basket.
I appologize for the repeats. The Atlantic said it was a process error, and that the others did not process.
Has anyone ever seen old film staring Henry Fonda called "12 Angry Men"? It goes like this a jury of 12 begin deliberating 11 say guilty 1 says innocent, but by the end of the night it turns out each individual has deep seated personal reasons for wanting the boy to "burn" on the electric chair. Did you say Rush Limbaugh? If you don't think Rush has pent-up deep seated problems then here is a question for you. Who would Rush Limbaugh be, and how would he talk, if he woke up in 1965 Alabama?
gary_the_writer - Until I got a satellite radio receiver, the only talk radio to listen to here in New Mexico was Rush and Savage. I'm sure it's the same for a lot of other people. I've probably heard over 500 hours of Rush. His schtick contains hyperbole, but it is certain not only hyperbole. More of it is based on false facts, faulty logic, and appeals to emotional knee-jerk reactions. He is serious when he says most of the things he says.
Obama ROCKS! I am a white mother of a biracial son whose father was born and raised in a West African country, and has now earned American Citizenship. CJ: You make one of my favorite points - the Garden of Eden was on the African continent; AND Christ was a Jew - so white supremacist "christians" WAKE UP! Jim Henderson: Yes you can be racist if you are black. Anytime you dislike someone, or put someone down simply because of their appearance - you're a racist! You can even be racist against your own race - so look into your heart and start the unifying and healing there. As Michael Jackson said (before he went wacko) "I'm starting with the man(or woman) in the mirror"
Could we chill on the Jackie Ling "China slut" bits? Especially in the backdrop of this speech?
Response to soccity: Limbaugh's audience is something over 20 million. It doubtful that any cable news outlet generates more than 10% of that during a one-hour program.
gary_the_writer - Thanks for the correction. I wasn't sure. Nevertheless, O'Reilly has a broad reach as well.
You're wasting bandwidth to tell us what Rush Limbaugh thinks? Rush Limbaugh thinks?
Limbaugh had a brilliant analysis. As for unity, why in the world would conservatives want to be in unity with liberal Democrats? We here Barack's rhetoric, but it's totally against conservative principles. Yes, yes, I understand that George Bush is not a model conservative--as government spending has significantly increased. Bush is not the issue. Bottom line--Barack Obama has a socialist platform and people who are looking for something from the government will vote for him.
I just love how blacks think they are the only ones with a struggle...I guess all white folk are rich, go to private schools and live in big houses like Barack Obama. I guess no white folks face any discrimination when they try to work for City and County Governments in Black Run Cities. Or when they try to get elected to predominately corrupt black school boards paid for by white taxpaying home owners. Yes, we have a big problem with perception in this country.
Forget Rush......take a real look around you.
Ignorant, ignorant Liberals....... First the fraud lies about ever being present during these racist rants, now he says he was there but tried to rationalize the actions of his pastor and "spiritual mentor" rather than quit the church and diassociate himself from this agitator. My guess is Wright has something on Obama that he can't afford divulged. The olny people voting for this phony are the blacks and Ultra-Left Wing Liberal morons. Good Luck...........party is over.
I just love how blacks think they are the only ones with a struggle...I guess all white folk are rich, go to private schools and live in big houses like Barack Obama. Did you even read or hear his speech?
Folks, don't worry about rush limbaugh (he does not deserve the upper case)the guy makes his living by making sure the country is divided. He and his cohorts on one side and other people on other side. He lives on Us vrs them, he thrives on division instead of unity. The message of unity from Barack is a threat to his job. He will lose his essence if the nation becomes united, hence his negative effusions on Barack. I recommend somebody buy him more drugs so he can pop some more, and spew more venom. Anyway who needs the commentary of a drud addict called rush limbaugh
The world would be a better place if Rush would just put a lid on it;). Go take some more pills you racist white man.
To 12 Angry Men: The Fonda character in the movie demonstrates how much influence one man with principles can influence a group in the search for truth. That is what makes it a classic. You apparently watched the movie but missed the point!
I am tired of hearing the white man enslaved the blacks and that we owe them. Who sold them into slavery to start? Their own kind, go after the Black African Tribes with your hatred, the ones thayou on the block.
Russian doll Manchurian candidate doomsday scenario: Obama head, inside Wright head, inside Farrakhan head, inside Limbaugh head... weez all dead. They are all racists because it pays off for them. Watch Obama ride that Dr. Strangelove steel pony all the way to Black Liberation glory.
Seriously though, how awesome is it going to be to watch the racists lose an election? I really just can't wait.
If I were to take advice from Rush Lardbaugh, it would be on how to dodge the draft, which is what Lardbaugh did during the Vietnam War.
Now I understand why I'm an "Ultra-Left Wing Liberal moron" and proud of it. I can't believe there are people in America that actually think like this... I'd like to start by saying screw you for voting for Bush. Screw you for voting for him the second time. I'm amazed at your (GOP as a whole) inability to learn from your mistakes - it's pretty impressive. $3,000,000,000,000 and 4,000 American lives as well as countless Iraqi deaths for a war that did very little - nice move, well played Repubs, well played.
Rush's argument that Sen. Obama is a "product of" racial healing and not an "agent" of it can be made about any successful racial minority in America and thus suggest that a slave who was a "success" was the product of his owner's racially progresisve views.
"Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut. Nice comment from the Obama suporters. It shows the kind of arguments they use when somebody disagree with them.
"Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut. Nice comment from the Obama suporters. It shows the kind of arguments they use when somebody disagree with them.
Can we just shut down Rush Limbaugh and the others. He's obviously nuttier than nutty. He's so deeply entrenched in hate that even if something good flew in his face, he'd have to deny it. He's staked his life on being hateful and exploiting others who don't know any better for his own financial gain. He can never be the Grinch whose heart grows larger. What would he do for work then?
Olga says: Typical liberal thinking: shut down those that don't think like you. Liberals know better. They are the owners of the truth. Also says: Perfect description of Jeremiah Wright.
"Typical liberal thinking: shut down those that don't think like you." Lardbaugh must be a closet liberal then, since he censors any caller whoever questions his draft-dodging during 'Nam.
Now that Obama has adressed the religous fringe issue and the God dam America speech made by his ex pastor. It's time for the press to ask Mcain why he did not leave the podium at the Christain Taliban conferance as the chior sang Why should God bless America ? They should ask him about his self admitted religous advisor Rod Parlsey who he shared a stage with in Ohio, the rite reverened Paisley who preaches God's ordanation of America to rid the world of Muslims, I'm sure some Muslims nations will see this with Mr.macains desire to fight for the next 100 years as another holy war. I would like to know if this an attempt to bring on the rapture or is he just trolling for the religous right vote.
"He's so deeply entrenched in hate that even if something good flew in his face, he'd have to deny it." Unless of course it was Oxycontin.
Rush is lame. Obama gave probably the best speech I've ever heard. It was nothing short of brilliant. I'm glad there was a lot of hype prior to this as I'm sure many got to see how beyond in years he really he. From a broken home to graduating top at Harvard Law school. He is, without ever explicitly saying it, the american dream. He's also the best that america can produce and I think more people are beginning to see that maybe, just maybe, he is a great hope. The speech was one for the history books. How the hell did he write that in a just a few days? Al
Old Rush Limbaugh kicks your liberal asses
Why do outlets like this and Time's "The Page" give Limbaugh such press? They treat him as if he is some respected commentator, instead of a hateful hyperpartisan. And notice they only seem to give attention to Limbaugh when he criticizes Obama; then he's some sort of newsworthy figure. They ignore him when he criticizes Hillary; then he's just a partisan hack acting as expected. What you should expect from Limbaugh is nothing but hate radio, with no solutions offered, nothing positive to give people hope. And I do know some Republican evangelicals that are turning away from him precisely because of that. Keep in mind Limbaugh, Hannity, et al would have criticized mercilessly the great Martin Luther King if they had been on the air during that time. They would have hurled all sorts of the usual insults his way, and they would have criticized his speeches, much the same way they do now with Obama. But Limbaugh's influence even inside the GOP is clearly on the wane; he couldn't even prevent McCain from being nominated, even though he tried his best. Limbaugh's most influential days have passed. And I still think McCain should be asked how he feels about Limbaugh to see if he will repudiate him.
It was, in many ways, a brilliantly written and delivered speech—something we've come to expect, of course, from Barack Obama. It did an excellent job of providing context for the black experience in America, explaining how the average African-American could gravitate to a controversial church like Jeremiah Wright's, and how those experiences might understandably be misunderstood by white America. It took a stab at uniting the black and white American experiences under the common problem of economic anxiety, brought on by the real enemy of working people in our country: unfettered corporate greed. In this regard, the speech still should have gone much further. More on that in a minute. It was a brave speech. Barack Obama has been running as a post-racial candidate this entire election cycle. Today, he turned into the wind, and tackled the racial crimes, conundrums, and tragedies that have buffeted our nation since its inception. Obama challenged our country to deal with the race issue in the here and now, to no longer keep this conversation tucked away in our racially homogeneous tribes, where our separate white and black safety zones allow us to say what we really think about the other. He did so knowing that after today, there is no going back. As an unnamed Obama adviser was quoted as saying, "Race is now officially on the table. It’s not going away after this,”. Race will be a part of his candidacy for the remainder of the primary, and, if he is so lucky, the general election. This is not something Obama wanted to happen, but at this point in the midst of the Wright controversy, it is obvious he felt he had little choice. Even braver, rather than offering banalities on unity and togetherness, he picked at some of the ugliest scabs in our national discourse, in effect claiming that his candidacy possesses the unifying power to do so without making the wounds worse. That said, while I feel that the speech was a rhetorical victory, I am worried that in certain ways, it was a missed opportunity, and possibly a political failure. The speech can be judged by who its intended audience was, and who it ended up becoming. His intended audience should have been the white blue collar males that, after the Virginia primary, were flooding towards his candidacy, but after Ohio, and Jeremiah Wright, have been flooding away from it. Instead, the speech seemed more tailored towards the media, and Obama's base. Political journalists have swooned over it all day long. Chris Matthews probably had to change his pants twice on Hardball tonight, calling it "the greatest speech on civil rights in our nation's history". It's a fine civil rights speech, and deserves much praise, but Barack Obama is not running to make a point, or win the argument about race in this country. He is not running for Civil Rights Leader of America. He is running for President of the United States. In a country with a still-white majority population, the two are unfortunately incompatible. Fascinating frames like the following are crack for the media:
But I've since heard more than a handful of other white folks—on both the left and right—say things like, "that wasn't a very nice thing to say about his poor old grandmother." Instead of getting the intent of the story—to remind people that Obama's experience is actually as a black and white man—a lot of white blue-collar folks hear that anecdote and think how rude it was for this young black man to say that about that poor old white woman. Plus, they're reminded about how they too, sometimes get scared around young black men. And soul-searching introspection on those feelings is likely not their next step. As Obama himself said today, "I have never been so naive as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own." So why is he attempting to do that very thing at its greatest crisis point? I've even heard from some Democrats—yes, Democrats—who say maybe it was Obama's resentment of his white grandmother's attitudes towards blacks, that led him to a racially charged church like Jeremiah Wright's. I think such arguments are absurd and deeply narrow-minded. Unfortunately, so is the state of typical white racial thinking in this country. What Obama also did not do with the speech was explain why he spent 20 years listening to a pastor condemn America, hate on white people, and spit on Israel. That's not what's really been happening the last 20 years in the Trinity Church of Christ, of course, but it effectively is what much of white America has come to believe. Yes, Obama described Wright's outlook as "a profoundly distorted view of this country". And yes, Obama explained that Wright is more than the sum of these snippets of controversy: "The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor." Fine. The retort I hear then is why does Wright say the U.S. government gave AIDS to black people? What the speech really needed to do today was, at length, directly address the economic considerations from on high that have intentionally spurred the racial divisions in our country since the American Revolution. It needed to be, in many ways, his Howard Zinn speech. It was good for Obama to start by empathizing with lower-income white Americans who feel robbed by affirmative action, who see no special value in their own white skin, who "don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race." But the argument stopped with empathy. It is absolutely critical that if you venture into why lower-income whites are resentful of affirmative action, you must complete the circle by explaining how our corrupt economic system requires whites to focus their anger on tiny programs like affirmative action, rather than the massive, non-racial corporate forces that are taking away black and white jobs, black and white health care, black and white homes. The reason Obama must focus primarily on economics, rather than race, is that with two wars being fought abroad, a looming recession, a housing crisis, trade deals shipping our entire manufacturing base overseas, blue-collar white Democrats really don't feel the urgent need to solve this race problem in America. It is, unfortunately, probably the last issue on the plate—if it's even on the plate. With one candidate focusing his attention on a controversial topic, which, though eloquently discussed, isn't at the top of voters' concerns, which other candidate is poised to jump right into an opening on the economy? Yep. But, you say, Obama had to address this Wright controversy—it was eating his candidacy alive! I completely agree. The way in which I believe he would have been better served is by unifying the discussion of race more fully with the economic pressures that have caused these racial fractures in American life in the first place. It was still a brilliant speech. He has retaken the news cycle—no small feat after what he's been through the last couple of weeks. But it's just a news cycle, and the questions will continue to linger among lower-income white voters about Obama's racially questionable church-going. It's not fair that Barack Obama should be judged by what Rev. Wright has occasionally said. But as life is not fair, many white voters still will do so. He is still the front-runner for the nomination, and will still likely obtain it. The problem isn't with getting the nomination—it's how does he defeat a cultural icon like John McCain in the general election without grabbing a big share of independent white votes in swing states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Missouri. His current base—young, affluent educated whites, and black voters—can't bring him over the finish line. And if he is ever going to silence the critics who say he is all hope and no results, he is going to have to throw some serious economic red meat on the table—sooner, rather than later. If he cannot get away from the race discussion, he must drag it over to the economic one.
Rush had his best ratings when Clinton was president, he will flourish no matter what.
Newsflash: This stuff is on DVD, so its not hard to find. Leave Hannaity and Rush alone for reporting the news. The New York Times had a false alarm with McCain and the media was all over that for a week plus. This is a case of judgment, poor at that. Even Collen Powell walked out of one of Rev Wright's hate filled sermons. Obama can get caught clubbing a baby seal and you clowns will make an excuse for that too!
"Leave Hannaity and Rush alone for reporting the news." I'm just wondering why those two Chickenhawks never put their money where their mouth is by sending someone else overseas to fight their battles?
"sending someone else overseas to fight their battles" Yes, and me and my buddies enjoyed every minute of it!
Oh really Jibreel? And which battalion were you in?
You are all missing the point here. Thanks to guys like Rush and Hannity and others, we are starting to understand the inner workings of Obama. I have looked at this whole campaign from the medias, especially the Network that I once loved and watched faithfully, and it seems that this network loves Obama and Obama could do no wrong. Obama has the right answer, Obama knows how to get people to vote, he is the true leader of change. Please.... One man cannot change Washington, if you want change in Washington you have to change all of the House and All of the Senate... That is not going to happen to soon.
You are all missing the point here. Thanks to guys like Rush and Hannity and others, we are starting to understand the inner workings of Obama. I have looked at this whole campaign from the medias, especially the Network that I once loved and watched faithfully, and it seems that this network loves Obama and Obama could do no wrong. Obama has the right answer, Obama knows how to get people to vote, he is the true leader of change. Please.... One man cannot change Washington, if you want change in Washington you have to change all of the House and All of the Senate... That is not going to happen to soon.
What everyone seems to be missing from this great rhetorical event is that harboring and justifying the anger of the past will solve NOTHING. As long as Americans use race to justify their failures they are chained to that failed past. What I really wanted to hear Obama say is that those who perpetuate anger and helplessness (like Rev Wright) only hold you back. Lets be accountable to ourselves and not use the sins of past generations as an impediment for moving forward. I fear Obama's failure to denounce Rev Wrights anger will only chain him to that hate speech forever.
America this is your wake up call! Sean Hannity and Rush are right! Radical islam wants to take over the world and they are doing this by STEALTH! They are slowly and methodically placing key people in key positions all over the world! If America doesn't wake up they will have their man, Barak Obama, in the highest office of the most powerful nation on earth! If they are not muslim then why did Obama's pastor, so called reverend Wright, go with the likes of Louis Farrakhan to Libya? Why did Obama,his pastor, and his so called Christian church honor a man like Louis Farrakhan who is a radicl muslim that hates America, white people, and Israel? Yes, radical islam is alive in America and about to unleash it's greatest weapon on this great nation if we don't stop them at the polls!!!!! Take off the blinders your are wearing America before it's to late!!!!!!!!!!
"Now I understand speech is MORE IMPORTANT than action. Obama is really good at talking gold out of trash. American people are so easy to be FOOLED." -Jackie Ling
Honestly, it seems to me(and many others) that once non-white ethnic groups came to this country, they became more rabidly prejudiced than Jim Crow Whites. The perceived reason for this is(and I have been told this by said immigrants) that non-white immigrants were told that American Blacks were the bottom rung of the ladder, and they were also told that it would be in their best interest to stay away from American Blacks and not associate with them. They were led to believe that by projecting the same hate and contempt historically found in America that they would somehow be exempt from the same racial bias. I have been all around the USA, and believe it or not its more racist in Hawaii than it is in all but the most backwater and uneducated parts of the deep South. In Hawaii, they are more subtle about it. Its mostly a Filipino, Tonga and Japanese community. They makes comments in native languages rather call anyone the "N" word outright. They are so caught up in dying their hair blond, wearing blue contact lenses and taking diction lessons to sound like people from California that they adopt a self hating racist attitude without even realizing it most times. Just look at Michelle Malkin. She's a perfect example. That's why I'm not surprised at Jackie Ling's comments. But its not just one group. Its most ethnic groups(Asian, Micronesian, African, Hispanic, Eastern Euro, etc) that have dreams of coming to America and quietly fitting in so not to be noticed and scrutinized under watchful racist eyes. The following link goes to a story that explains it much better than I could: http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/50073/ So for those people, especially Black Americans who think that the hate and bias is coming from just White Americans, think again. White Americans by and large have been prejudiced in this nation, but they have also had the most time to examine and come to grips with their own prejudices. Aside from Blacks there were more Whites marching in the Civil Rights era than any other group. These new ethnic groups are stealthy with their prejudice. Hiding behind their skin color while feeling disdain for American Blacks because they represent everything that they fear. Obama seems to even bring those group passed their ways and unite them under the idea that we can ALL live better coming together and discarding the old way of doing things. I believe the Kennedys' would have done the same thing were they not assassinated. Bill Clinton could have also, but he was knee deep in the good ole boys network and was only willing to go but do far.
Wow Rush Limbaugh, so being a racial reconciler is now a bad thing. What's wrong with you?
J Smith: "Has anyone ever noticed that ethnic groups that arrived in America after WWI in droves seem to be thee MOST prejudiced? From Hispanics to Japanese to Chinese to Flilipinos to East Indians to Nigerians to Haitians. " I'm Nigerian, but unfortunately I have to agree that this is the truth and it's such a shame.
The talk shows are getting just as bad as the liberals. Talk about the economy, health issues and gas prices.Something ALL Americans can relate too.
The talk shows are getting just as bad as the liberals. Talk about the economy, health issues and gas prices.Something ALL Americans can relate too.
The talk shows are getting just as bad as the liberals. Talk about the economy, health issues and gas prices.Something ALL Americans can relate too.
Why is it opposing streams of thought have to resort to name calling rather than rationality..Admitted Obama is a great speaker and writer as well,but has anyone researched what "Black Liberation Theology' is? Google names like James Cone and Dwight Hopkins to get the real feeling of what Obama's pastor taught in the church he attended for over 20 years.For those of you who care the God and Jesus that most of America has accepted and been interpreted for thousands of years is not the God and Jesus that the proponets of Black Liberation Theology teach.I say that so that when you hear Barack Obama say he believes in Jesus..etc...he is not talking about the tradional Jesus we in America have been taught about for years.I simply wanted to clarify that.A website link below[and there are many others that can substantiate what I am saying here],but I give you one example. It was a painful thought to consider, as painful now as it has been years ago. it contradicted the morality my mother had taught me, a morality of subtle distinctions- between individuals of goodwill and those who wished me ill, between active malice and ignorance of indifference. I has a personal stake in that moral framework; I’d discovered that I couldn’t escape it if I tried. And yet perhaps it was a framework that blacks in this country could no longer afford; perhaps it weakened black resolve, encouraged confusion within the ranks. Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, of the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence. If nationalism could deliver. As it turned out, questions of effectiveness, and not sentiment, cause most of my quarrels with Rafiq." It would seem to me at some point according to Obama's own words he did reject his mother's morality..and did become accepting of the Black Liberation Theology and also of Rafiq's sentiment,,,not necessarily his effectiveness he said but he did agree with his "sentiment".
"Let me ask everyone this, what if Hillary Clinton went to a church that preached racism? We would be calling for her resignation from the Race."- Linda from PA Ahhh ... but Hilary's better half does belong to a group that preaches racism. Bill Clinton is a Mason. And even though the founder of the Masonic religion was indeed an African, they are very, very racist. In fact, the father and founder of American Masonry was Albert Pike, the founder of the Ku Klux Klan. Bill Clinton belongs to the very same sect. Yet many are willing to dismiss that fact as conspiracy or hearsay. It is easily verifiable with little research. And while some believe that because some American Blacks have started their own Mason lodges this makes all Masonry an equal opportunity organization. That is untrue. Blacks have long been denied membership to lodges that weren't founded by a Black member. The lodges for Blacks are usually for networking to get better jobs and enjoy nepotism among members. Its a far cry from what members in non-Black lodges attend for. Albert Pike was asked what he would do if their came a time when Blacks would be allowed to join Masonry in America that he founded. Would he continue to serve and worship in the ancient mysteries? Pike is quoted as saying that if there came a day when Blacks were welcomed into Masonic lodges as members, he would leave the religion that he loved dearly rather than call a *igger his "lodge brother". You don't get any more racist than joining the founder of the KKK's little boys club.
I noticed Jackie Ling is taking a lot of rap for being allegedly racist. But what if she hadn't chosen to post her distinctly Asian last name? I find it ironic that those of you who are so zealous in jumping on her seem most likely to bring up her ethinicity. J Smith, while your assertions about racism extending beyond Black & White America are certainly correct, you should not have used Jackie as an example of this. In doing this, you are forming unsupported judgements based on her name and the few words she posted in her comments. As for the comment posted by ken... "Hey, Jackie Ling, fuck yourself, China slut." I would like to assume that you're being ironic, given the content of the speech being discussed. I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so unselfconsciously bigoted.
"Sean Hannity and Rush are right!" Hannity, now there's one chickenhawk I would LOVE to see drafted and sent to the front lines. Wouldn't want Rush there though, can't give a gun to a slob stoned on Oxycontin. Besides, when I went through boot camp you had to be able to do more than the 5 pushups he's capable of...
"I'm Nigerian, but unfortunately I have to agree that this is the truth and it's such a shame."- Tola Of course its the truth, but what is important is that many examine what they've been taught and realize that truth in their own lives and dealings. Most people from other countries would deny what I wrote outside of family and community circles. In their minds its okay to be prejudiced but its completely unacceptable to admit it to outsiders. What most immigrants and children of immigrants need to realize is that the majority of prejudice is bequeathed ignorance. In other words, ignorant and baseless beliefs that are handed down from parent to child, or from social circle to an individual i.e. gangs, school or church. The lies can end with the children if you raise them right. That's one reason I like Obama. He represents a multi-cultural world where such prejudices will still exist, but won't have to be perceived as necessary. His nomination alone will shatter all notions that only certain people can succeed or reach the highest plateaus. Its about who is best qualified as well who has real integrity. By integrity I mean the quality to do what's best for the nation and not for the lobbyist that have pulled the strings of the presidency for so long. I don't see that quality in Clinton or McCain. In McCain I see a man who has already pledged allegiance to Bush an his policies. In Clinton I see a woman more interested in showing that she can play hardball with the fellas more than she's interested in making progressive change a priority. All three(Clinton, McCain, Obama) have the resumes, but only Obama has piqued my interest as far as his intentions on unifying for change. In that respect he doesn't seem insincere like the other two.
JSmith Obama should be preaching accountability. His association with Rev Wright, only demonstrates that his aim is to propetuate a mindset of helplessness and dispair that can only be cured by bigger government.
May be Limbaugh and Oreilly should thank OBAMA for encouraging them to "out" themselves from their "closet" divisiveness, which has fuelled their careers.Now they can OPENLY declare their objection to unity and equality because Rev Wright has set the pace.
Obama's greatest miscalculation was to address us as adults with issues and challenges of some complexity. Clearly, that leaves Mr. Limbaugh out, and the association of "Rush Limbaugh" with "thinks" an oxymoron.
Limbaugh and his breed of Republicans are bottom-feeders subsisting on a diet of fear-mongering, racial polarization, and the politics of angry division. Like the proverbial club-wielding but dim-witted Cyclops, they have proven after 8 years of control that they are indeed fit for fighting and destroying, but not at all for problem solving and leading this nation. After making a slop of America's domestic and foreign policy, he and other Republicans have returned to all that they know: chewing on the leavings of healthy public discourse to focus upon unwholesome and toxic entrails. Given what he and his hateful friends have done to wreck the economy and destroy our international currency of goodwill, even a small degree of hubris might suggest that he maintain silence and sit this one out. The Republicans had their chance. If his belly is full of criticism, I'd suggest he devote this year to criticizing how the Republicans squandered the nation's vote of confidence and mortgaged the nation's future.
Lets see how you feel when the troops are pulled out of Iraq and start dieing when they are sent to Dar fur. Oh and by the way Sen. Obama did lie, last week he said he never heard anything like that while in church, yesterday he said he had set there and heard things like that. All politics are lies one just replaces the other.
"Where we disconnect, is understanding racism does not mean solving racism. To the extent people use racism--or even class envy--to justify failure, they are not learning to rise about it."- alt.Dicl Honestly, since Mr Obama chose to be candid about race, so shall I. No other group in the history of THIS nation has suffered racism in the form of legitimately passed legislation in the form of Jim Crow laws but Black Americans. Any honest person with any knowledge of this country's history will admit this. In this day and age, 40 years after civil rights amendments sought to correct what can be compared to any atrocity in history, NO ONE in America is without rights and opportunity, even though prejudice and bias does exist mostly in quiet. Even illegal aliens' rights are being considered in today's landscape. But I must say that I cannot think of another group in America outside of the Black American group that could even suggest what you've written. "Obama should be preaching accountability. His association with Rev Wright, only demonstrates that his aim is to propetuate a mindset of helplessness and dispair that can only be cured by bigger government."- alt.Dicl If so, the same could be said of Hilary Clinton. She has been trying to appeal to women voters on a platform of helplessness at the hands of a cheating husband who lies under oath gets impeached. I guess she is showing women worldwide that by holding on to a marriage of convenience and exaggerating her experience as candidate by likening her husband's experience as her own she hopes to win this election through factious methods. Seems to me that by standing by and allowing her husband, who has both cheated on her and perjured himself behind the cheating, to campaign for her she sends the message that she condones both cheating and perjury as long as she wins. Let's face it, Bill has no credibility. Yet, he has no problem campaigning on behalf of his wife, which would allow him a third term to play in White House politics. He would be more than influential, as the Clintons have said that Hilary's term as First Lady has somehow given her more experience than Obama! She says she was intimately involved in many White House affairs. Understanding this could only mean that Bill is looking for third try at the Oval office vicariously through Hilary. She has borrowed her husbands experience and reputation, which means she projects women as helpless and under qualified and needing a man to succeed in the world. Maybe that's why so many women groups don't support Hilary Clinton?
In a nutshell, this is how it will go: If Obama becomes president, people will put him under the heat lamp like they did David Dinkins. They will expect him to fix a nation that has been used and abused since the Reagan administration in one term rather than understand that the man promised a vehicle for change, not a miracle in four years. If Obama doesn't provide near magical results by the end of his first term, despite a sincere and tireless effort to shift the momentum of power from corporations to the people, he will not be re-elected. People will say that we "gave" him a chance and he couldn't deliver. It will make it very difficult(but not impossible) for any candidate of color to successfully campaign for the presidency. This isn't just the case for Obama. Even if it were Colin Powell that became president this scenario would play out the same for him as well as any other ethnic president. The problem with this country and its long history of prejudice is that even when the prejudice isn't conspicuous it is still there waiting in the shadows. Like David Dinkins, many Americans will see an Obama presidency as "giving the Black guy a chance" instead of giving the best qualified, most diplomatic and the candidate most likely to listen to the will of the people a chance. Until we as a nation can overcome ignorant albeit traditional ways of doing politics we will be deadlocked into being corporate slaves with diminishing civil and constitutional rights because we won't take our leadership more seriously. The corporations will continue to outsource, weakening the American dollar, and they don't care because their investments are in pounds and euros. We will continue to wage arbitrary wars and spend trillions, while jobs that used to require just a diploma now require master degrees. Hundreds of thousands of Americans will be laid off and won’t be able to get new jobs as the majority of Americans don't have advanced degrees. It’s an easy way of cutting the fat in the job market. Have you noticed that every time you call a customer service line for products or services you have to speak to someone in India or Pakistan? The proof is in the pudding. Many people don’t realize that electing Obama is just the beginning of the process. The Republicans who control the media networks will be hard at work trying to cast the Obama administration in a negative light at every turn. Just because Obama is elected as President doesn’t mean they will let up with the fear tactics. They will tell at every crucial decision he makes that he’s inviting terrorists to our dinner tables. They will tell us that every new law passed that benefits the people and not the corporations is the beginning of the end. They will do their VERY best to draw lines in the sand and create division instead of a united front for the American people. They will say that he talks and deals with known American enemies, even though it was during the Bush administration that these people became viewed as enemies. They will say when Obama gets a gallon of gas back down to $2.00 that he talks to so-called terrorists like Hugo Chavez. They’ve already said that Obama’s message of hope is nothing more than words, when its always been my understanding that hope has never been more than a promise of better days. They’ve already painted Obama’s message of unity as some impractical picture of Americans holding hands, swaying back and forth while singing “Kum Bah Yah”, when that isn’t it at all. The point of Obama’s message of unity was to bring Americans together so that our voting power reflects the will of the people and not just subgroups categorized by wealth, race or religion. Those divisions are what hurt America in the first place. You don’t have to like me because I’m Black or White, or anyone Black or White for that matter, but I’m sure you want to put food on your table just like I do, and the next guy does. People need to begin seeing things in that light. When Americans are afraid to vote outside of the box of a system clearly broken as seen in the 2000 and 2004 elections, it makes me sad for us. It’s a form of Stockholm syndrome that has us still believing in the people who have abused us and our nation for so long. Many of us still hold on to the belief that because these are elected officials that they somehow ultimately still have our best interests at heart, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. Tina Fey said that “Bitch is the new black”. Well I’m saying “Green has been the new American for decades”, and if you’re not an elitist you haven’t counted in the last 30 years. If you think I’m wrong just take a long, hard look at Reaganomics. Every President after Reagan has not challenged Reagan’s policies to a point where they would actually change them. Not really. Not even Bill Clinton. There was a reason why the rich loved Reagan so much that they wanted to put him on Mt Rushmore. Factually, there are significantly more poor and middle class people in this country than there are rich people. Its time that all Americans(White, Black, Red, Brown and Yellow) started voting for the issues that are ultimately going to benefit them and not the people who are and stand to get richer off their blood, sweat and tears.
Racism should be illegal. How can you understand racism if you've never been discrimnated against? That is why so many Americans are having a hard time grasping Obama's reconciliation.
This was posted yesterday: The speech was wonderful. Senator Obama is a Uniter and the best choice for commander in speech. I agree: he commands SPEECH very well, he is an orator. Is that enough to be the commander in CHIEF?
It's interesting how many comments posted here denounce one thing or another. I haven't read every post, but I have read perhaps half, and it seems that no one really offers any sort of critical analysis of Mr. Obama, nor of Mr. Limbaugh. Is there any point to trying to determine truth? If what one of these two says is true, what does that mean for our country and the direction it should take? If we are talking about a candidate for president, shouldn't it be important to determine the truth of what the candidate says, and through implication, thinks? Wouldn't that give us an idea about how that candidate might behave as president? So, is there truth to what Mr. Limbaugh says about Mr. Obama. Does Mr. Obama tell the truth about himself? Is it not valid to ask a presidential candidate what his response is to racial rantings by a person the candidate says is a close advisor/mentor of his? And if the candidate appears to contradict himself, is it not appropriate to point that out? Mr. Limbaugh could very well have an agenda, in fact I believe he is very forthright about it. What is wrong with that? Don't we all have an agenda? Doesn't Mr. Obama? And if the agenda of Mr. Limbaugh, and of Mr. Hannity, Mr. Medved, Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Savage, etc, is so far off base, then how is it that these people have such a huge audience? How many millions of Americans listen to them? And are all these millions of Americans really so stupid? Or could it just be that these conservative radio talk show hosts just happen to have such large audiences because they just happen to have very valid points that the majority of the country agrees with? Just some questions.
And if the agenda of Mr. Limbaugh, and of Mr. Hannity, Mr. Medved, Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Savage, etc, is so far off base, then how is it that these people have such a huge audience? Hitler drew huge crowds. Or could it just be that these conservative radio talk show hosts just happen to have such large audiences because they just happen to have very valid points that the majority of the country agrees with? If the majority did agree with them, the Democrats would never have retaken the Congress.
Richard,
"And if the agenda of Mr. Limbaugh, and of Mr. Hannity, Mr. Medved, Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Savage, etc, is so far off base, then how is it that these people have such a huge audience? How many millions of Americans listen to them? And are all these millions of Americans really so stupid?" And what do each have in common? None served in our nation's military, and yet have become multi-millionaires pretending to be "patriots." Only in America, eh?
The short answer is that he, Limbaugh, doesn't think. Limbaugh is successful because he feeds the masses with what they want to hear. I have no problem with him doing that...freedom of speech, even for pond scum like Limbaugh, is guaranteed by our Bill of Rights. What I am MORE concerned with is that his followers seem accept what he says, at face value, just because he says it. That anyone would/would not vote for any candidate, based on what Limbaugh says, is beyond me, but it is your right to vote for anyone you wish for whatever reason you wish. You don't have to answer to me, or anyone else...but you do have to answer to yourself. Many soldiers have died for your right to do that, over the centuries...exercise that right wisely.
G-d D--n Obama. Posted by Jim Henderson | March 18, 2008 3:21 PM
As Barack Obama previously mentioned about his former pastor’s teachings, this type of sermon is typical in African American churches. So am I to conclude that African American churches actually promote racism instead of eradicating it? In my opinion these types of sermons would actually brainwash the congregation into racist thoughts rather then trying to heal racism. An anology would be the brainwashing of young Arabs into radical wahhabism beliefs that they should kill Jews instead or promoting peace.
"Now I understand speech is MORE IMPORTANT than action." What are you doing here, other than speaking? What does any candidate do? Oh, John McCain goes flying around and then says that Iran is training Al Qaeda, thereby demonstrating that he is utterly clueless about his principal issue. Some commander in chief. What sort of moron would vote for a doddering old right wing fool like him? "Obama is really good at talking gold out of trash." So you didn't listen to the speech. "American people are so easy to be FOOLED." The foolish ones like you are.
"And if the agenda of Mr. Limbaugh, and of Mr. Hannity, Mr. Medved, Mr. O'Reilly, Mr. Savage, etc, is so far off base, then how is it that these people have such a huge audience? How many millions of Americans listen to them? And are all these millions of Americans really so stupid?" You don't have to be stupid to be angry, resentful, mean-spirited, racist, wrong.
"An anology would be the brainwashing of young Arabs into radical wahhabism beliefs that they should kill Jews instead or promoting peace." Only if Wright had exhorted his congregation to kill or even harm whites, but he didn't. Where you find that sort of thing is in white churches, where people are told to pray that Justice Stevens meets his maker soon, and the most vile hatred against gays and "liberals" and "abortionists" is preached and people are told that it' "righteou" to kill them. Wright preached no hate or racism, but some people hear racism when someone talks about the disadvantages and discrimination that blacks that happens every day -- things confirmed by poll after poll and study after study. "In my opinion these types of sermons would actually brainwash the congregation into racist thoughts rather then trying to heal racism." And just how are they to do that? It's like asking the victims of rape to try to end rape by talking amongst themselves. You can't heal racism without talking honestly about it, which is what Obama did.
"G-d D--n Obama. But Obama said he disagreed with such statements, and doesn't think they lead to where we want to go. Perhaps they all look alike to you, and thus you can't tell the difference between Obama and Wright.
"Is it not valid to ask a presidential candidate what his response is to racial rantings by a person the candidate says is a close advisor/mentor of his?" He just gave a speech responding to that. "And if the candidate appears to contradict himself, is it not appropriate to point that out?" He didn't contradict himself; that's a lie that's transparent to all but the most stupid among us.
The speech was wonderful. Senator Obama is a Uniter and the best choice for commander in speech. I agree: he commands SPEECH very well, he is an orator. Is that enough to be the commander in CHIEF? The President must be an effective leader, able to unite people; Obama has demonstrated that. The President must have good judgment; Obama has demonstrated that. The President must be confident and decisive without being too cocksure, willing to listen to others; Obama has demonstrated that. The President must actually know what he has talking about; Obama has demonstrated that. The President must have insight, reason, logic, the ability to evaluate things honestly; Obama has demonstrated that. Obama's speech, which he wrote, was not just "oration", it was thoughts and concepts and reason and logic and facts and judgment and empathy and understanding and appeals to our better nature. Do you have a better nature?
Oh and by the way Sen. Obama did lie, last week he said he never heard anything like that while in church, yesterday he said he had set there and heard things like that. Bill, you're the liar, and transparently so. Obama didn't say that he never heard anything like that, and you know it; what he said was that he hadn't heard those words. And he didn't say in his speech that he heard things like that, and you know it; he said he had heard controversial statements.
"If they are not muslim then why did Obama's pastor, so called reverend Wright, go with the likes of Louis Farrakhan to Libya? Why did Obama,his pastor, and his so called Christian church honor a man like Louis Farrakhan who is a radicl muslim that hates America, white people, and Israel?" Bill, you're giving stupidity a bad name. Obama and his church are indubitably Christian. As for your questions, they aren't based on fact.
"What I really wanted to hear Obama say is that those who perpetuate anger and helplessness (like Rev Wright) only hold you back." You could hear that simply by listening to his speech. Except that Wright in no way perpetuates helplessness. Obama's critics seem to generally be low-information folks. "I fear Obama's failure to denounce Rev Wrights anger will only chain him to that hate speech forever." Again, he did that in his speech. But I guess you wanted him to denounce it angrily.
I’m sick of listening to the black crap that Obama isn’t a raciest!!!!! what garbage they talk out of both side of their mouths…….. Sick of it call a spade a spade……….. That’s right he’s one of the biggest bigots of the century
Barrack Obama is a poser. He did not respond to this when it came up..he took a few days so his Speech Writers could come up with this. All fluff and no substance as usual. He wrote it himself -- it took him a couple of days. And it wasn't fluff, it was chock full of substance, so you obviously didn't hear or read it, or are simply lying. That makes you the poser.
Christopher, you seem angry (and very very racist).
What a bunch of fucking liberial bull shit. Obama is guilt of bad judgement and doesn't have enough back bone to kick that fucking racist preacher to the curb. Read it and weep mother fuckers.
What a bunch of fucking liberial bull shit. Obama is guilt of bad judgement and doesn't have enough back bone to kick that fucking racist preacher to the curb. Read it and weep mother fuckers.
What a bunch of fucking liberal bull shit. Obama is guilt of bad judgement and doesn't have enough back bone to kick that fucking racist preacher to the curb. Read it and weep mother fuckers.
What a bunch of fucking liberal bull shit. Obama is guilt of bad judgement and doesn't have enough back bone to kick that fucking racist preacher to the curb. Read it and weep mother fuckers.
Thank you truth machine a white person calls it like it is they are raciest. You just proved Rush is right, ok for blacks to speak out but not whites to tell the truth.
Bad Bob;
Rush has done his job quite well. In spite of the sane voices in here, this blog has become a microcosm of our country's hatred and division. Like Obama or not, the speech was attempt to speak truth. Perhaps the mirror he held up to America is a bit disconcerting. At some point America has to stop hating, both abroad and at home...and in cyberspace.
"Thank you truth machine a white person calls it like it is they are raciest. You just proved Rush is right, ok for blacks to speak out but not whites to tell the truth."- Christopher
Historically, Whites in America have committed crimes against humanity on a level that rivals the worst examples throughout history. That's not an opinion either. Whites in America for hundreds of years have enjoyed freedoms that Blacks have only begun to experience in the last 40 years. So my questions is "What have Whites had to endure?" Honestly, Whites have only felt gun shy about taking shots at Blacks publicly because it isn't fashionable any more. They want to distance themselves from slavery as much and as fast as they can. That hasn't stopped them from demonizing anything resembling Black pride, even though they've enjoyed hundreds of years of White pride. There is nothing wrong with being proud to be White. Just like there isn't anything wrong with being proud of being Black. But every Black man who has ever tried to uplift and unite the Black community so that their community can be more productive and self sufficient has been labeled "radical" or an outright racist. Frankly, I don't see a need to unite the white community, as there hasn't been a division since the civil war. I don't see a need to uplift Whites in America as they enjoy more wealth than the majority of people in the world community. I don't see a reason for Whites to complain about things like Affirmative Action, because since 1993 White middle-class women have received 85% of its benefits. What are American Whites enduring that they feel so slighted? They have Black leaders that they regularly target and slam in the media like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Louis Farrkhan. How can any White American in good conscious say that they feel like they have had to refrain from "telling it like it is"? When have Whites honestly ever held their tongues? Please direct me to that point in time! There were thousands if not millions of Whites that called Martin Luther King Jr a n*gger. Before the masses joined King's cause Hoover deemed him the most dangerous Black man in America. So when exactly did Whites begin to feel held back? It seems to me that if there were more negative things to mention about Mr Obama people would have done it already. There's little to target, and in my opinion that's what got the racists feeling like they're wearing a muzzle. They have been ineffective at locating that much needed chink in his armor. There's nothing wrong with exploring a candidates stance on issues, his policies and his history and track record. Every responsible voter is supposed to do those things. Its when certain pundits and networks begin to exaggerate claims about a man's faith and attempt to hold him accountable for every remark made by every one he knows that it borders on circus tactics. Its a couple of idiots with megaphones standing on soap boxes trying to generate as much interest as they can over what they're saying ... despite if what they are saying is baseless and divisive. PS Even though it may seem so, I am not trying to imply that all White Americans have it so good. I am well aware that there are more poor Whites than rich Whites. However none of those Whites have been the victim of racial sabotage. They have been victims of class warfare. And unlike the other candidates, Obama wants to include even the poor in the process and not just the elite who own the lobbyist who really own the politicians.
It really boils down to this: If you want a fresh change with a young candidate who has roots all over the world and has been able to win his campaign(most delegates) without dividing his party, then vote for Obama. If you feel nostalgic and want to see more of the same politics from the 90's because that's all you can remember since Bush screwed everything up, vote for a Clinton dynasty but remember that it ain't Bill in the driver's seat. A vote for Hilary is not necessarily a vote for the same Clinton administration that some fondly remember. If you want more of Bush's policies and don't mind your kids being sent to foreign countries to die for no reason other than Haliburton contracts and other big business, vote for McCain's 100 more years in Iraq. We can double military spending and cut funding for health care and education!
J Smith All I’m certain of is I won’t vote for a black racist and his bigoted cohorts. Neither will I vote for a women that’s in the middle of every scandal involving money. Bill he’s just a has been hoe. Who I will vote for is McCain the only decent knowable person running. Then I’ll hope you are bed ridden for the election so you can vote your trash. Have a nice night.
The view from an ex-patriot in Europe:
FOKES APPERENTLY MOST OF YOU DONT LIVE IN A MAJOR CITY, WHERE IT IS DIFFICULT TO LIVE WITH OUR BLACK BROTHERS WHO BEAT THE SLAVERY DRUM ALL DAY LONG. THERE ISNT A PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WAS
Imagine if Hillaryor John Mc went to a church and David Duke was the pastor.
I always root for the underdog. Obama should do the noble and just thing, and concede now, & throw his http://hillaryclintonpoll.blogspot.com
I always root for the underdog. Obama should do the noble and just thing, and concede now, & throw his http://hillaryclintonpoll.blogspot.com
You sure attract a bunch of left wing nuts to this site.
thats just the thing dumbass... we dont want a president with roots all over the world... he isnt running for the united nations, what dont you get about that? Believe it or not we want someone who is american !
thats just the thing dumbass... we dont want a president with roots all over the world... he isnt running for the united nations
thats just the thing dumbass... we dont want a president with roots all over the world... he isnt running for the united nations
thats just the thing dumbass... we dont want a president with roots all over the world... he isnt running for the united nations
Whether you agree with iraq or not its ignorant to think pulling out now would be smart or beneficial, so get your facts right... but hey after we make 12 million illegal mexicans american citizens i guess you will be happy to pay for their children to grow up here without any sense of what this country means and stands for... so we lose our language, borders, culture, and religion... these things mean nothing to you of course because you hate this country.
Rush is on the mark -- Obama has been playing us all for suckers. Both he and his wife are racist. It took awhile to come out but now it has hit us all in the face --WAKE UP PEOPLE.
J Smith: You suggest that "There is nothing wrong with being proud to be White. Just like there isn't anything wrong with being proud of being Black. But every Black man who has ever tried to uplift and unite the Black community so that their community can be more productive and self sufficient has been labeled "radical" or an outright racist." Might I suggest that it is not the trying to uplift and unite that gets one labeled radical or an outright racist, it is the laying of blame on others, particularly others of a different race, that brings the labeling. There are many who have worked to bring change without resorting to name calling & race baiting. As an example I offer you the spectacle of Bill Cosby. Here is a man, a black man, who has endured his own fair share of bigotry in his early days as an entertainer. A man who worked hard to overcome that bigotry and who achieved great success. Now he is once again battling bigotry and vicious personal attacks. But it is not coming from the evil, racist white devil. It is coming from other black folk. How do you explain that a man who has done so much to uplift and unite his community, who has succeeded despite all the barriers you seem to believe are in existence, is now excoriated by the black community? And why is Mr. Cosby the recipient of such vitriol? Because he dares to challenge the black community to look in the mirror, to turn from victimology and to embrace the ideal of self-help. Here is the difference that us white devils see between the Rev. Wrights and the Bill Cosbys of the world. The former try to unite by blaming others, by using division, by speaking hate. The latter try to unite by encouraging introspection and self-reliance. And as us bigoted, unable to fully comprehend the black man's plight, white folk see a candidate for the president looking to one of these two types of healers for moral & spiritual guidance, you can be sure we are going to support the latter and vigorously question the former. Would you not do the same?
obama was being sincere with his speach, i trust him more than anyone in this race right now, whats wrong with being a healer? and also all he can do is give speaches THATS ALL ANY CANDIDATE CAN DO UNTIL THERE PRESIDENT GEESH
obama was being sincere with his speach, i trust him more than anyone in this race right now, whats wrong with being a healer? and also all he can do is give speaches THATS ALL ANY CANDIDATE CAN DO UNTIL THERE PRESIDENT GEESH
Dear Ron S, Bob
Richard N. ...
So Richard N., if you feel as though Obama is a racist despite him being raised by a White family and having a White mother then you are entitled to your own opinion. Its a hollow accusation heaped upon him by association but some people just need a reason. Not necessarily even a good or solid reason. You may be one of them. Moving on .... "How do you explain that a man who has done so much to uplift and unite his community, who has succeeded despite all the barriers you seem to believe are in existence, is now excoriated by the black community? And why is Mr. Cosby the recipient of such vitriol?"- Richard N. Its ironic that you would choose Bill Cosby as an example. I remember when Cosby stated that the entire American media was a racist White conglomerate when NBC was up for sale and he put in his bid to buy it, but the network refused to sell it to him. Bill Cosby was livid, and gave several interviews expressing his contempt for the bias and prejudice that still exists in America today. Do you remember that? Notice however, that it was only until that bias and prejudice affected Cosby HIMSELF that he acknowledged that it still played a significant role in modern America. Cosby has been disconnected from the Black community for so long that he no longer knows the issues and problems in Black communities. Cosby does not live in a Black community. Cosby does not shop or spend his money in Black communities. When you're a billionaire your perception of reality is not the same as the poor and the working class. Its not enough to just donate money as a philanthropist in order to claim that you are still a part and aware of the issues in one's own community. It wasn't until Bill Cosby began dealing with others in his tax bracket that he was reminded that racism exists at every level in America. So you are correct, Richard N. Cosby does tell the truth when he's lucid. Once Cosby felt the sting of racism that he hadn't felt in decades thanks to his status, success and money he woke up and went on record stating that the American media, and therefore America itself is subsequently still rooted in bias and prejudice practices. I totally forgot about him, Richard N. Thanks for the heads up. Obama on the other hand hasn't made reference to race outside of the moving speech he gave the other day. He's shown and expressed that he has a desire and a plan to bring us all together to create a united front despite these grievances in the hopes that we can make real progress. Those who wished to corner him and force him to play the denunciation game for the rest of the campaign are unhappy that his speech was written, delivered and received so well. Race is no longer an issue, and the real issues are back on the table. Obama knows that he can't please everyone, but he believes that most of his supporters, who are the majority by the way, are reasonable and thinking people. In my opinion, anyone so easily swayed by all this talk of race and hatred were never looking for change in the first place. They are McCain supporters .. posing as undecided or democrats .. here playing devil's advocate to keep the issue of race on the table for as long as they can. Nice try, but like Obama's campaign, his supporters are smarter than you and many others thought.
Dear susan aldridge Stick with the Koolaide drinking Liberal Lemmings and let the gownups guide this Great Nation. If those quiche eating-kumba ya mother fuckers in Europe don't like it - too bad. Someone has to man the ramparts and kill the bad guys - which OBTW in the end protects everyone including the quiche eaters. This isn't about Rush - this entire blog is about Obama's pitiful lack of judgement, please stay on that topic and justify why its okay for him to support and associate a racists preacher for 20 years+. If this was about McCain hanging out with the KKK or David Duke (or the Senior Senator from West Virigina) there would be hell to pay. You know it and so do many others in this country - fuck the double standard you and those like you are trying to apply here. It will not work any longer.
"This isn't about Rush - this entire blog is about Obama's pitiful lack of judgement, please stay on that topic and justify why its okay for him to support and associate a racists preacher for 20 years+. If this was about McCain hanging out with the KKK or David Duke (or the Senior Senator from West Virigina) there would be hell to pay. You know it and so do many others in this country - fuck the double standard you and those like you are trying to apply here. It will not work any longer."- Bob That is hilarious. George Bush flew Bin Laden's family out of the USA on 9-11 during a national no-fly zone so that they wouldn't be held accountable for the a guy that we still are looking for. That and the fact that George W can be seen in pictures actually holding hands with our so called enemies and wearing arab clothing. Not to mention the fact that both Saddam and Bin Laden are men who the USA trained, and were made to be called our allies as long as they stayed in line with US interests. Bush did all of this and still got re-elected! There's a double standard for you, Bob. McCain has pledged himself as Bush's new lapdog .. adopting policies that he previously opposed until Bush's endorsement, which just goes to show how easy McCain can and will be swayed and bought by lobbyist and other interest groups. There are way more people tired of Bush-type politics than there are those who are willing to entertain the idea that Obama's campaign revolves around race. As I said, Obama's supporters, not his detractors, are smarter than most thought. Lastly, the most obvious reason that Wright's comments were taken out of context is that there are White Americans that have and continue to attend his church. If the man was a crazed and radical lunatic like some of the people here would have us believe no White person .. I repeat NO WHITE PERSON would be attending the man's church! Some will argue the ratio of whites to blacks in the church, but that isn't even relevant. There are quite a bit of White Americans that belong to that church and if the pastor was a raving madman who preached messages of hating White people there would be no White members attending. The fact is and remains that Obama has won the popular vote, the most states and the most delegates. The nomination has been won but the media is holding off reporting the inevitability of his appointment. Anyone interested can read what Republican Conservative Mike Huckabee, the second leading candidate in the race for the republican nomination in 2008, had to say about the whole thing here: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/huckabee-defend.html
What you all fail to see is that if Obama makes it to the white house it will be the downfall of this great country of ours. It wont matter what color you are because it will affect all of us. I see civil war worse than anything ever witnessed. Then the terrorist will finish us all off because thats how the great Barack Sadam Hussein Obama and his racist cronies want it to be! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!! As for you truth machine SHUT THE FUCK UP! That goes for anyone who agrees with the idiot.
"What you all fail to see is that if Obama makes it to the white house it will be the downfall of this great country of ours. It wont matter what color you are because it will affect all of us. I see civil war worse than anything ever witnessed. Then the terrorist will finish us all off because thats how the great Barack Sadam Hussein Obama and his racist cronies want it to be! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!! As for you truth machine SHUT THE FUCK UP! That goes for anyone who agrees with the idiot."- hardcorerepublicanwoman Seriously .. how stupid do you sound? You sound like one of the fanatics from the Salem Witch Trials. You've got to be kidding me. Do you not read what you write? Have you been so brainwashed that you can't even see yourself using fear tactics to frighten people into voting the way you would like them to? Unreal.
Dearest J. Smith, Once again here's a refresher - The issue here is about Obama's lack of Judgement - NOT whether or not Rev. Wright can speak his idiotic racist mind. Obama wants to be the President of ALL American citizens, not just those of color. If he can not man-up and make a very simple non race based decision - he does not have the qualities to be President. Period. He is educated - but he is not a smart man. Had a white man/woman (or any other hue) pandered to ANY one community for obvious political gain I would think the same thing. He is politically done - this will only get worse. Semper Fidelis,
hardcorerepublicanwoman, Well stated - and unfortunately you are correct. S/F
Does anybody in here REALLY think they're going to change anyone's mind? It's like a football game from hell. "My side, God dammit!" This blog is like a car wreck. Let's be honest. The issue isn't Obama anymore or race or Wright or McCain or Hillary. It's about HATE. And more HATE. And then just when you think you can't stuff even one more vile festering crumb down your throat, PRESTO!...a finger down your throat and a nice heaping dish of HATE for dessert. Good luck...have a nice life.
Two sides of the same coin, you and me. Big Brother is laughing his ass off. He has us tear each other to shreds. Distract us from the real horror...whatever that is. Politics is a pretty good job if you can't think of anything else to do. Big Brother doesn't care much, he tends business just fine with all three of our heroes. We are, afterall, the Pepsi generation.
And one last rant as long as no one is awake in this place. JFK, Bobby, Martin Luther King—all liberal leaders championing the black cause. You might ask Big Brother about those crimes as well.
You can't reason with the Rushtards. He does their thinking for them. I listen to him all of the time and am amazed at the ass kissing "dittos, dittos" that go on with him and Hannity. Every repub I know spews their talking points and It's very similar to a cult. They NEVER speak on issues and merely attempt to turn their opponents into cartoon charachters. Whoever said America is easiily fooled is quite correct. These idiots fool the Rushtards into voting against their own best interests.
It WAS amusing to see Sean Hannity attempt to make fun of John Kerry last night, imitating Kerry's salute from the 2004 Dem convention. But then it's always comical when a Chickenhawk pretends to know something about the military. John Kerry's service: Sean Hannity's service:
"Dearest J. Smith, Once again here's a refresher - The issue here is about Obama's lack of Judgement - NOT whether or not Rev. Wright can speak his idiotic racist mind. Obama wants to be the President of ALL American citizens, not just those of color. If he can not man-up and make a very simple non race based decision - he does not have the qualities to be President. Period. He is educated - but he is not a smart man. Had a white man/woman (or any other hue) pandered to ANY one community for obvious political gain I would think the same thing. He is politically done - this will only get worse. Semper Fidelis"- Bob
Then let's direct everyone's attention to Fox News and see just how much I've misunderstood and Bob understands. I wonder if Chris Wallace doesn't understand the political dynamics either? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE As I've said before, there are thinking and reasonable people, of all races, out there. It just seems that the closet racists and paranoid fear mongers seem to be the loudest. I do understand Bob's points and acknowledge them. I just don't agree with them. I know there are many that do, but its largely due to the ideology that a Black candidate is supposed to be flawless and make no mistakes. In fact, he cannot even be associated with those who make mistakes. If Bob was honest, he would come out and say that the points in his posts have more to do with taking a chance on a "Black candidate" than electing the most qualified candidate. And the only way some people from some eras and walks of life will take a chance on a "Black candidate" will be if he/she exhibits no ties to the Black community .. like a Colin Powell or a Condoleeza Rice. They will have to be well educated and experienced, but they cannot be "too" Black. From the beginning, they called him Muslim, nitpicked at his name, attempted to tie Obama to Farrakhan and later the Black Panthers. They circulated pictures of him in Kenya and claimed proof of him being a Muslim. They've suggested that he has ties to Al Qaeda because of his name. It was a circus from the beginning. And now Bob says that Obama isn't smart because although he denounced the words Obama wouldn't denounce a man who he has known and loved for years just to appease the paranoia of people who would have remained his detractors regardless. I don't think Obama has lost any steam. I believe that this has given Obama opponents a reason to bark louder. That's all. Even now Obama is gaining more and more endorsements. Super-delegate Bill Richardson just endorsed him today and the train moves forward.
People, Don't forget to check out the Fox News video with Chris Wallace about Wright's comments and Obama's speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html
People, Don't forget to check out the Fox News video with Chris Wallace about Wright's comments and Obama's speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html
People, Don't forget to check out the Fox News video with Chris Wallace about Wright's comments and Obama's speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/mayhem-at-fox-news-ancho_n_92743.html
Similar to the openly racist TV personality Archie Bunker, Rush Limbaugh talks to folks who are like minded closet- and openly-racists who are too lazy to READ the facts for themselves or are not even able to read at all, ignorant. So they depend on Rush's for misinfo. and cheap entertainment. Besides, the spineless, Demos handed the Reps. all middle America, by ignoring the large expanse of our land in between the Oceans. Look at Kerry and H. Clinton, they only campaigned in the so called Blue and most populous states. Obama is covering every state in the Union as he said "there are no Red or Blue states, just the United States." That's Leadership of all the people and not just We the people of All the United States, and only of the more popular states
Similar to the openly racist TV personality Archie Bunker, Rush Limbaugh talks to folks who are like minded closet- and openly-racists who are too lazy to READ the facts for themselves or are not even able to read at all, ignorant. So they depend on Rush's for misinfo. and cheap entertainment. Besides, the spineless, Demos handed the Reps. all middle America, by ignoring the large expanse of our land in between the Oceans. Look at Kerry and H. Clinton, they only campaigned in the so called Blue and most populous states. Obama is covering every state in the Union as he said "there are no Red or Blue states, just the United States." That's Leadership of all the people and not just We the people of All the United States, and only of the more popular states
Similar to the openly racist TV personality Archie Bunker, Rush Limbaugh talks to folks who are like minded closet- and openly-racists who are too lazy to READ the facts for themselves or are not even able to read at all, ignorant. So they depend on Rush's for misinfo. and cheap entertainment. Besides, the spineless, Demos handed the Reps. all middle America, by ignoring the large expanse of our land in between the Oceans. Look at Kerry and H. Clinton, they only campaigned in the so called Blue and most populous states. Obama is covering every state in the Union as he said "there are no Red or Blue states, just the United States." That's Leadership of all the people and not just We the people of All the United States, and NOT only of the more popular states
Rush Limpdick is not a closet racist...there is no closet...he is a full blown hater hell bent on destroying this country and we have people that actually believe his blather!!! God help us all!
I read all of these statements, and they are so professional! I wonder if Rush, or any of the candidates, talk with some of these child-like remarks. Would any thing get done? I think all of the candidates want to do good for the country! The problem is none of them are right, they are all off base. There is not one of them which wants to give the people more rights, they all want to make more laws to take are rights away. They want to take away are freedom of driving, eating, smoking, drinking, hunting, working, hospitalisation decisions, boating, hiking, freedom of speech, and our freedom to make the decision of right from wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I was younger people got a ticket after they did something wrong, now it seems like they want to give people a ticket before they do something wrong, even if they are thinking about something wrong. (I miss the day when we were free!
Thank you truth machine a white person calls it like it is they are raciest. You just proved Rush is right, ok for blacks to speak out but not whites to tell the truth. These racists are such pathetic cowards. They are racist, know they are racist, like to hang out with racists, are proud of being racist, but get all pissy if you point out the obvious: that they are racists.
The argument of a liberal is 100% emotion and rarely has any constitutional relevance. Once questioned or debated by a conservative, the liberal results to insults such as homophobic, racist, bigot etc. Thus proving my original observation. How I pity the little minds of the liberal!
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But Rush is a closet racist, he just wraps it very cleverly as political commentary. What did you expect him to say?
I continue to be amazed at the extent of coverage he receives in intelligent places.
Posted by TDE | March 18, 2008 1:01 PM