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The Clintons And Loyalty

25 Mar 2008 08:14 am

My Atlantic colleague Joshua Green has written often about Hillary Clinton's inner circle, and one of his broader conclusions is that its members value loyalty to Clinton more than they value other, more politically valuable traits, like competence and creativity. A decade of scandals, real and fake, hostile media coverage, and "traitors" like George Stephanopoulos have left a core of stalwarts who would never and will never desert, abandon, or to second guess the ambitions of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

James Carville cannot even explain why Gov. Bill Richardson owes something as prestigious as his presidential endorsement to Hillary Clinton. It is self-evident to him that Richardson has betrayed Clinton. The Clintons gave him so much, it seems, that anything but complete fealty is traitorous.

There is an internal logic to Carville's argument, but given that a large part of the Democratic Party has demonstrated conclusively that their loyalty to the Clintons and their appreciation for a decade well done does not extend to an automatic stamp of approval for Hillary Clinton's candidacy.

When the books are written about this campaign, you can bet that Gov. Richardson's conversation a month ago with Madeleine Albright will be explored in some depth. The former Sec. of State made the same argument: Richardson somehow owed his endorsement to the Clintons. That rubbed Richardson precisely the wrong way, according to people he has spoken to since. It was as if the Clintons discounted Richardson's own political talents and were telling him that absent Bill Clinton's benevolence, Richardson would still be a backbencher.

Anyway, here's Carville on CNN yesterday:

CARVILLE: I have to say that he quoted me accurately and in context. It was -- yes, that's exactly what I said. And by the way, I think the quote had the desired intent.

BLITZER: What was that?

CARVILLE: That people saw Richardson and saw somebody who was disloyal.

On the Judas metaphor

BLITZER: What were the 30 pieces of silver he got in exchange?

CARVILLE: Well, again, that was a biblical thing. History will -- we'll see.

BLITZER: Are you suggesting there was a deal or something?

CARVILLE: I was using a biblical metaphor and it had -- it had the desired intent. People called me left and right and said, "Whenever I see that guy, I'll can't help but think of that quote."

On how Gov. Richardson “betrayed” Sen. Clinton

BLITZER: But why was it such a betrayal? Because he makes the point, look, I ran against Hillary Clinton.

CARVILLE: Again, I think the world of Senator Kennedy, have never said one thing, or Senator Kerry, or...

(CROSSTALK)

BLITZER: So why is Richardson different?

CARVILLE: Because I think that there was -- that he served in the cabinet in two different positions. I think that he invited President Clinton to come to his Super Bowl party.

Comments (55)

I think one of the smarter conclusions Josh Green drew in the big piece he wrote after Solis Doyle got fired (the one GQ was too craven to run) was how similar Clinton's loyalty-based management style is to George W. Bush's. So much about Clinton's campaign yes-men and women remind me of the classic sycophant exchange from Hamlet:

Ham. Do you see yonder cloud that ’s almost in shape of a camel?
Pol. By the mass, and ’t is like a camel, indeed.
Ham. Methinks it is like a weasel.
Pol. It is backed like a weasel.
Ham. Or like a whale?
Pol. Very like a whale.

Like we need more of that shit!

So Bill Richardson actually spending a year running for president against Hillary Clinton was less of a betrayal (according to Carville) than endorsing Obama?

To me it does sound a bit condensending. Maybe Bill Richardson's support of Obama after many other former Clinton staffers/advisors made the same move, was the last straw. But, as Carville keeps pressing this point, it does sounds a bit like, "We made you. You'd be nothing without us."

In my lifetime, I've experienced a similiar reaction that Richardson is hearing. A boss mad that I am pursuing another position responds with, "I gave you the promotion or project that gave you the recognition." My response: I EARNED every promotion & every recognition I've received. And if you feel you "GAVE" it to me expecting something in return, SHAME ON YOU!

Yes, they gave him the opportunity; but it was up to him to parlay that into the position that he is in today (Respected Diplomat, still called upon today; Governor of NM). And for the Clintons (& Carville) to think that there is some un-ending debt for the opportunities provided, is alittle disturbing. Did he sign a blood oath, sell his soul when he joined the Clinton Admin?

Making a point to highlight his "disloyalty" doesn't deminish Richardson; it plays up the dynastic aspect of the Clinton campaign. IMHO. :-)

It was as if the Clintons discounted Richardson's own political talents and were telling him that absent Bill Clinton's benevolence, Richardson would still be a backbencher.

After seeing him on the campaign trail and in debates, I don't see how there is any doubt about that.

What a poisonous little asshole. He hasn't done squat for the Democratic party in over a decade, unless returning us to the days of Tammany Hall is considered some sort of accomplishment.

Where are the Clintons when it comes to being loyal to the Democratic party? The party has suffered much under the Clintons, and taken a lot of hits in trying to defend their unnecessary scandals.

Of course the Clinton attitude is sickening. You are supposed to reward the person who appoints you to a job with doing a good job; nothing more and nothing less. You do not owe that person for life.

And look at the viciousness of Carville. Not only will he not back down, he delights in the fact that when some people think of Richardson they will now think of this analogy, according to him. So basically he delights in smearing someone.

Of course, what he doesn't realize, is that most people will think of Richardson as who he is, and not this sophomoric insult. What people will remember is that Carville is a jerk, and so are the Clintons.

I really do believe it is a danger to allow the Clintons back into the White House, given their level of corruption and arrogance.

This is why dynasty (whether Clinton or Bush) is SOooo bad for a healthy democracy. Dynasties subsist on loyalty to "families" not loyalty to Country or principles.

The Clintons are depending on every Democrat that they ever promoted to be loyal to them, not to principles, not the Party - and certainly not to themselves.

Dynasties in a democracy kill off those that challenge and contradict the status quo/establishment power base - it is deadly to the very things that are needed to keep a democracy vibrant and flexible. Absolute power corupts absolutely - and this is what we want for out Country? Again?


Of course loyalty is important!

President Hillbilly is going to create the perfect order, with one people, one nation, one leader.

As for the inner circle, you can't have too many people, it is better fewer, but better.

Now all of you need to get busy to help enable Hillbilly by giving your money to her in small denomination ($100) unmarked, used, bills.

Dear Clinton Campaign:

Please confirm or deny rumors that Chelsea Clinton is on full pay and benefits at the Hedge fund she works at in New York while she has been campaigning virtually full time for her mother.

If she is not on unpaid leave, then it clearly looks like that Hedge fund is "lending" a full time employee to the Clinton Campaign and in doing so, making an illegal corporate contribution.

Assuming that Chelsea do not work cheap, it would appear that this contribution is many times the size of the maximum individual donation allowed under FEC rules.

Please tell us the truth.

Bill was popular with people on the street. Just a shameless good-ol-boy that you wanted to hug and forgive him his sins because he didn't really mean it. The Democratic party machinery was never fond of Bill. Possibly they saw the self interest and little concern for the Party. Hillary was never popular with anyone. Except a few AWFs.

So it is very easy for a lot of party professionals to drift away from her as it gets ugly. There is no loyalty in either direction. And I cannot imagine them risking their own jobs to put her in the White House.

There was a small ugly inner circle with Nixon and the current Bush. And that is what 8 years of Hillary would look like. Divisive, secretive, and and a scarcity of truth. When loyalty is the prime criteria, you get a demagogue.

DML said:
After seeing him on the campaign trail and in debates, I don't see how there is any doubt about that.
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Bitter much?

Not sure how loyalty to Bill Clinton and his administration is supposed to be carried over to Hillary by any logical measure.

The superdelegates who endorsed her before a single vote was cast in this primary season are the ones who are going to be in a pickle. Their blind loyalty will surely be put to the test, so if they decide to go against the Clintons, they will need to make sure they kill her (I am speaking politically, not literally). The worry is that she is wounding Obama so bad for the general (some say on purpose) that he will be unelectable in the fall, giving her an opening in 2012. So if and when they go against her, they will need to finish her off.

Isn't kind of touching that JC thinks the fact that Bill Clinton turned up to a SUPER BOWL PARTY is reason enough for Richardson to endorse Hillary?

http://www.marbury.typepad.com

Shorter Carville: Loyalty to the Clintons outranks loyalty to party or country.

I saw his interview on ABC this morning. I can guarantee he hurt the Clinton campaign more than he helped it.

This Judas thing is not meant to be a shot at Richardson. It is clearly a warning shot to all superdelegates who want to come out and endorse Obama. If any one else does it, warns the Clinton campaign, some attack dog will spend five days trying to embarass them on TV and elsewhere. The insinuation that Richardson was bought is part of this strategy; it suggests but does not prove that the Obama campaign is corrupt. Negate the influence of superdelegates, unless they support Clinton. This is why Carville is doing it.

The biggest sin, undermining the Democratic party over personal gain. Hillary is from the school of thought that the ends justifies the means. her mind is like liquid, forming to whatever symbiotic mirage is in front of her audience. The difference being Obama who has a foundation as a human being. It may not have been in his best "political" interest to respond to the Pastor fracas with his race speech, but it did the American souls a lot of good. Obama's priorities are a rare gift to the people, and he in many ways reminds me of Winston Churchill.

In a nutshell, I think the former Republican Legal Counsel, Doug Kmiec brings the choice to clarity:

Today I endorse Barack Obama for president of the United States. I believe him to be a person of integrity, intelligence, and genuine good will. I take him at his word that he wants to move the nation beyond its religious and racial divides and that he wants to return the United States to that company of nations committed to human rights. I do not know if his earlier life experience is sufficient for the challenges of the presidency that lie ahead. I doubt we know this about any of the men or women we might select. It likely depends upon the serendipity of the events that cannot be foreseen. I do have confidence that the senator will cast his net widely in search of men and women of diverse, open-minded views and of superior intellectual qualities to assist him in the wide range of responsibilities that he must superintend.

The people who support Obama, don't always agree on every issue. Their support comes from a recognition of someone of goodwill and good faith, who has their priorities in order. We know that the issues will be weighed in on their merit, and not on the next favor owed. It will heal America. It comes down to that.

Carville is a hideous pile of pus. I can literally think of no fate which would give him his just deserts; even burning to death in a fire would be better than he deserves.

Haha, maybe getting AIDS from his wife, yeah, that would be good. Or getting it from a prostitute and GIVING it to his wife.

Richardson was an affirmative action hire who was chosen while more qualified people were passed over. He owes the Clintons until the end of time.

Obviously.

The reason that Richardson running was not considered a betrayal is that he was never in danger of actually winning. Like Biden and (to a lesser degree) Dodd, he was the perfect foil for the patronizing Clinton. She showered them with praise, and they returned it. It was only when that ungrateful bastard Barack Obama got into the race that she even minded the idea of an opponent. He actually planned to try and beat her.

(In what way was Obama ungrateful? The Clintons let him into Washington. They didn't have to.)

I have decided that the underlying message here is that WE ALL OWE THE CLINTONS, that our loyalty is demanded and required, and that we shall be punished if we betray them.

This is the underlying concept of their campaign: LOYALTY AND ENTITLEMENT.

James K. at 10:03 puts it more elegantly than I did. Carville is warning all of those supers not to cross her like Richardson, who is one of the Party's elder statesmen. If they go after him, then a puny DNC member will be completely toast.

That is why they will need to kill her (again, politically) when they go against her.

In the end, I think the supers will listen to Richardson more than the husband of a Republican operative.

You're missing the more important part of Carville's statement, Marc: Hillary and her supporters think she is Jesus. Please put her out of her misery already, superdelegates.

Carville is actually hurting Hillary's case with the other supers. If the message is that the Clintons' hired goons will knee-cap you if you speak your mind, the image of the Clinton campaign becomes more akin to one of an organized crime ring and less a presidential campaign. Superdelegates, I would imagine, are accomplished and proud people - and probably don't like being told to get in line or else.

I wonder if Carville calling Richardson Judas is the Clintons trying to rough up a potential running mate for Obama.

You can read my thoughts here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/25/10355/0080/614/483480

Marc:

Two points:

1) you should add the quote from Carville this morning about how he was attempting to "brand" Richardson, just like you would brand a cow. It was disgraceful.

2) you might think about removing patriot's remarks. I can't stand the Clintons right now (or Carville), but patriot's comments are beyond the pale.

I think you're wrong. Carville was very sure of what he was saying, somehow in an alluding way. He told Anderson Cooper that himself and Richardson know the real reasons, besides the old Cabinet posts.

Maybe Carville knows smth: Richardson might have negociated his endorsement for Hillary (it was him to invite Bill to watch the Superbowl) and decided for Obama when offered something more.

For several years Democrats and neutral observors have railed at the "loyalty before all else" aspect of the Bush White House. (Remember Harriet Myers, when even should-be die-hard Bush supporters told him he needed to get serious and nominate a candidate who had at least one qualification other than extreme personal loyalty.) So it's been strange in this election that Clinton supporters keep bringing up "loyalty" as though the Clintons are a powerful crime family and every politiician or voter who fails to support them is stabbing in the back the people who made that lowly little worm what they are today.

Richardson is hardly the first to be attacked--look at months of comments--he's just the first to get Carville'd. At least with such a silly comparison--Richarson has been talking about ending the negative tone and uniting behind the winner for some time. His is a procedural endorsement, hysteria regarding what is owed to someone you watch a football game with notwithstanding.

While Carville may be intended as a warning to other supers, I hope they take it the other way (much as with Meyers)--let a dozen supers come out, and let the Clintons trash them all, vigorously and publicly. (As greater strategy, I'd like the supers to close up the gap in such endorsements to roughly tied. I realize they don't work as a coherent group, but I hope the Obama campaign is making this argument.)

Speaking of greater strategy, this from TPM really should get some attention.
During an interview with the Philadelphia Daily News editorial board, Hillary Clinton again pitched the idea that she can close the gap in the pledged delegate count — by pointing out that pledged delegates can always switch their votes.

"And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged," said Clinton. "You know, there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They’re just like super-delegates."

How many times will she explain that people who've already voted also don't count, and the supers will frown and murmer that they wish she'd improve the tone of the campaign?

Or maybe this is different because the Clinton camp is now so desperate for any help in this race. They goofed and just took Richardson for granted. He doesn't take any bull like that, so he bolted. Can't say that I blame him.

http://www.political-buzz.com/

I have to wonder if the Clinton camp is just trying to force Obama into making a major gaffe. They want to be called monsters and be compared to McCarthy. They want to be able to say Obama is insulted them, the want the sympathy.

Yes, where is Hillary's loyalty to the democratic party? If she were loyal to the party she wouldn't be so intent on taking it down if it doesn't vote for her. She wouldn't be saying John McCain is a better candidate than Barack Obama, she wouldn't be clawing out her democratic opponent's eyes, she wouldn't still be in the race. Disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting.

It's all about her.

Yes, where is Hillary's loyalty to the democratic party? If she were loyal to the party she wouldn't be so intent on taking it down if it doesn't vote for her. She wouldn't be saying John McCain is a better candidate than Barack Obama, she wouldn't be clawing out her democratic opponent's eyes, she wouldn't still be in the race. Disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting.

It's all about her.

Yes, where is Hillary's loyalty to the democratic party? If she were loyal to the party she wouldn't be so intent on taking it down if it doesn't vote for her. She wouldn't be saying John McCain is a better candidate than Barack Obama, she wouldn't be clawing out her democratic opponent's eyes, she wouldn't still be in the race. Disgusting. Disgusting. Disgusting.

It's all about her.


Ron,

Hillbilly IS Jesus!

Why, when she walks into a room, everyone mutters her name.

Man, that's exactly right, Deborah.

I really didn't understand why the Clinton campaign is repeatedly sending out Carville with this Judas line. It doesn't make any sense to me, EXCEPT as a "You'll never work in this town again!" threat to the remaining superdelegates.

To the regular voters, I hope it just sounds silly. Are you obliged to do the will of whoever you invite over to watch the Super Bowl with?

if Obama were in Hillary's position right now, the democratic party elite would have met with him and demanded that he step down from the race rather than risk destroying the party. WHy haven't they done so with her? Because they're afraid of the Clintons. GOod for Richardson for standing up to them and saying "enough already." That took guts considering how they've dispatched Carville to calculatingly verbally eviscerate him. Their disrespect and disregard for the party, for other democrats is repellent.

If Hillary somehow manages to steal this nomination, I'm not voting in the fall. For the first time in my adult life. She should be ashamed of herself. And the democratic party should be ashamed (are you listening you wimp, Howard Dean?) of itself for not standing up to her. THis woman has practically and singlehandedly handed the presidency over to McCain at a time when the Democrats should have been a shoe-in.

Whoops, I posted that compliment for Deborah. Apparently I can't think and type at the same time.

It's getting so sickening listening to Hillary and her campaign try to spin how she's going to win. And all by saying the voters don't count (except, of course, the ones who vote for her). If she does win in this underhanded way, she's really going to risk a lot of people leaving the party. Then she won't win anyway. Duh.

Valuing loyalty above all else, including competence and creativity. Now, where have I seen that before...?

Of course! It's George W. Bush Redux.

There is no clearer demonstration for why another Clinton presidency would be bad for the country.

I just love the spectacle of pompous Clintonistas like James Carville bitching and crying like a four-year-old when they don't their way.

Where are the Clintons when it comes to being loyal to the Democratic Party? The party has suffered much under the Clintons, and taken a lot of hits in trying to defend their unnecessary scandals.

Of course the Clinton attitude is sickening. You are supposed to reward the person who appoints you to a job with doing a good job; nothing more and nothing less. You do not owe that person for life.

And look at the viciousness of Carville. Not only will he not back down, he delights in the fact that when some people think of Richardson they will now think of this analogy, according to him. So basically he delights in smearing someone.

Of course, what he doesn't realize, is that most people will think of Richardson as who he is, and not this sophomoric insult. What people will remember is that Carville is a jerk, and so are the Clintons.

I really do believe it is a danger to allow the Clintons back into the White House, given their level of corruption and arrogance.

Posted by cm | March 25, 2008 9:24 AM

I agree and want to add that Carville has said people remember his remarks.

What Carville doesn’t realize is that a large percentage of people not only remember the remarks, they also remember his actions afterwards.

I personally feel that Bill Richardson showed great personal bravery and integrity, he knew the Clinton’s would not take his endorsement of Obama lightly.

James Carville got the exact opposite reaction than what he intended. Most people do not see the actions of Bill Richardson as a betrayal of Biblical proportions. What they see is a selfish petty little man who places personal loyalties above and beyond all other things.

I’ll raise his 30 pieces of silver with this

Matthew 22

34)Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35)One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
36)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37)Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.38)This is the first and greatest commandment. 39)And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. 40)All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

NIV translation

Let's see now ... Richardson is Judas (He even has a beard!) -- Bill Clinton must surely be Jesus ... Hillary is, what?, Mary Magdalen?

Carville is St Paul ... Or at least a fast talking St Peter in reverse. He has refused to back down now, what?, 2 or 3 times?

And so on and so forth ... Ora pro nobis -- Now and at the hour of the Democratic Party's death.

The American electorate, I hope, has had enough of this stuff. I'm Unitarian myself. But only on a good day.

The Clintons need to go.

Bill Richardson was seeking higher ground, he's a politician; the Clintons know that. He defected, and under the circumstances, how big a deal is that? When the rats start abandoning the Clinton's sinking ship in masse, they'll have nowhere to go. I think we're in for some bona fide squealing: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Richardson was not impressive as a candidate, but he seems to have been a successful pol on his own. He was elected to Congress before he had anything to do w/ the Clintons and was elected governor afterward. Just to comment on the "Richardson isn't much" remark above.

Carville said... I think that he invited President Clinton to come to his Super Bowl party.

Here's a friggin' news flash, James. Even if you (mistakenly) believe that Richardson owes a debt, Hillary didn't give Bill Richardson ANYTHING. Bill might have, but not Hillary.

So there's the confirmation directly from one of the biggest Clinton insiders in existence. Hillary isn't running on her own merits. She's riding Bill's coat tails. Everything Bill did or does is now magically conferred upon Hillary.

Give me Obama or McCain. At least they can stand on their own two feet.

It seems to me an obvious followup question for Carville would be "Since you feel Richardson should endorse Hillary even if he feels there is a better candidate, presumably others feel this way as well. How many of the endorsements, particularly superdelegates, Hillary has gotten do you think come from loyalty rather then an actual belief she is the best candidate? Oh, and are we to assume, in your heart you actually feel Obama is a better candidate, but loyalty to the Clintons guides your words?"

I suppose everyone here has already previewed the trailer to the http://www.hillarythemovie.com that the Supreme Court just refused to rule on and sent back to the 3 judge court for a ruling.

I suppose everyone here has already previewed the trailer to the http://www.hillarythemovie.com that the Supreme Court just refused to rule on and sent back to the 3 judge court for a ruling.


Now that Richardson has come out...

I wonder how many more are left in the closet?

Actually, whenever I see Richardson, I'll now think of what a prick James Carville is.

From "Head of State"

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-misspoke.html

"Monday, March 24, 2008

I Misspoke

It was a treacherous night landing. Ice had formed on both of our wings, and as I looked out the port window, I could see it breaking into shards, flying off into the night sky with each near barrel roll of our C-50, highlighted by the flares shooting past on either side of the cabin, turning them into falling prisms of wildly careening light.

As the cabin lurched back and forth and the sounds of rocket fire percussed the urgent, faltering rhythm of our right engine, I unfastened my seat belt, and, finding my center of gravity, rose from my seat, moving past aides shock still in their chairs, arms locked like girders against their arm rests in terror, and walked up the center aisle to the pilot's cabin.

"How long to Kosovo"? I shouted over the screaming whine of the altimeter's alarm, marking our steep descent. The pilot turned, looked at me in shocked recognition--"How...how did you make it up here? No one has ever walked up here in these conditions before! How..."

"Never mind that!" I barked, with what I hoped was a not too stern forcefulness, combined with sufficient steel and empathy to create the appearance of a firm imperturbability. "Check the master FMC! Is it working or has it failed?"

The pilot, paused, as if in amazement at my readiness, and then himself awakening to crisis, looked to the Control Display Unit . "It's down! It's down!" he shouted. A bead of sweat began to form on his brow.

I knew what I had to do. "Get out of there!" I commanded, and pulled him from the seat, from where he crumbled to a fetal position on the floor behind me. Stepping over him, I took the chair behind the console.

"Check the Central Maintenance Computers and activate the NAV RAD for alternate radio tuning capability!" I shouted to the co-pilot. He, too, had broken down in tears, his head buried in his hands. I looked to his ID on the console. Another newbie.

Well, this was another one where I would have to go it alone.

Quickly, I tore the scarf from my neck and fashioned it into a crude lasso that could be used for EFIS/EICIS control. Catching the lever with my right hand, I activated the cabin loudspeaker with my left. I knew that the passengers had likely been gulled by the earlier soft patter of the pilot. "Brace yourself! Get ready! These aren't just words!" Then I pulled the lever back hard, sending us rocketing towards the runway.

"You'll never make it!" I knew that voice, and turned. Richardson! How did he trundle up to the cabin? "Out of here, Judas! And take that quivering beard with you!"

I could feel bolts straining against Pennsylvania steel as I pushed the '50 down, down, down to the ground below us. Suddenly, an explosion punctuated the sky--Hand held rocket fire at 3' o'clock!

I quickly performed the evasive maneuvers that I had learned for so long, and so well. My face became angry, then sad, then gentle, then intensely serious, then was finally rocked by a powerful squealing, an unnatural burst of laughter. That did it! The rocket exploded harmlessly behind us.

Now. Now it was time to take the stick and bring this shaking, careening flight, parts straining against themselves until nearly ready to burst, down to the ground. I put my arms to the twin arms of the FO-AP, set the APC, and with all of the strength remaining in me, began to push the levers down. Straining, I pushed harder. And harder. I could see the runway rising before us in the glare shield. I would have to find the remaining strength to bring it down.

Finally, as if a burst of superhuman might had been somehow delegated to me, I pushed the levers into locked position. I could hear Penn in the cabin shouting "We're landing...We're going down!" as I felt the rough shock of the landing gear snapping into place.

Sparks flew as we hit the runway, bullets ricocheting off of the cabin, one wheel touching pavement. I looked straight through the windshield--the militia, arms at the ready stood at the runway's end. The last obstacle.

I turned the craft hard, sending it hurtling sideways across the pavement. It swept the militia away in a single screaming motion that combined with the screaming that arose from the cabin, as we continued to move towards the small, makeshift terminal, where the dignitaries, negotiators, and heads of state awaited for my arrival.

I did not close my eyes. I did not let go of the wheel. I watched--as we ground to a halt just before the doors of the terminal.

I looked fore, at the dignitaries protecting themselves from the sniper fire that raged around them. I looked aft, at the passengers, shaken but safe.

We had arrived. All was good.


Just a moment...

Due to the discovery of a video of the above described occasion, I would like to make few small corrections. The flight was in fact actually a regularly scheduled chartered flight that was actually flown by the pilot and co-pilot--although the pilot did have a cold, and during the flight, I did at several times give serious attention to our flight conditions (notes indicate that I found it "a bit bumpy"). I would also note that the dinner, Salmon with Creamed Potatoes, was undercooked, and was served with a Riesling that was unusually dry. It is also true that we were met not by a militia, but by a girl's youth soccer team. However, it was necessary for me to dodge a soccer ball as team members demonstrated their often aggressive skills. No other shots were fired.

In short: I misspoke."

Cite:

Head of State

http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-misspoke.html

Where I come from, an instance where you say one thing and video of the event (and eyewitness accounts) says another is simply... a lie. Misspeaking is prettied up lying. No way around it. Let's call it what it is media.

Carville is right. Richardson is a traitor. Once you remove the favoritism/preferences we each have for our own candidate it becomes clear that they both have strengths and weaknesses. In that light, and given their policy positions and Richardson's own, it's hard not to see opportunism and future presidential spoils as a motivator and/or deal-breaker.

One further comment, the classicism and elitism demonstrated by some of those that hate the Clintons is astounding. It's the unseemly side of politics that too many democratic elites think themselves too good for that keeps genuine progress at bay. While some middle and upper class snobs moralize and praise themselves for keeping their honor intact -- people are dying for lack of health care in the USofA, soldiers are dying in Iraq, Americans are going hungry and losing their homes. We don't have the luxury of keeping our honor at all costs while people in America die and when the entire party understands that and doesn't side with the other team over such trivialities as a blowjob even though they knew there was a several years long politically motivated witch-hunt that even investigated the First Cat and his fan club but damn we just can't stand those rednecks that had the audacity to lay out watermelons from Arkansas on the lawn of the White House, we'll be an unstoppable force.

Note: Though I use the Clintons as part of my example above, it's a problem that extends well beyond some internecine hatred for them. Some of us think we are too good to do what needs to be done.

OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTION
Easy to see already see Republican attack ads against Obama. First open with videos of racist wife, Michelle, saying she was proud of America "for the first time" because of her husband's presidential candidacy, next Obama explaining that he doesn't wear an American flag lapel pin or hold his hands to his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance because it is a "substitute for true patriotism." Then flash a clip of Obama explaining that his Caucasian grandmother was a "typical white person" because she uttered racial epithets and was afraid of black people. Finally, the coup de grace, pictures of Obama's angry, arm-waving preacher blaming the United States for 9/11 and shouting "God Damn America" to the rafters of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and preaching the U.S. government formulated the HIV AIDS virus to commit genocide against blacks. Even though Obama supposedly condemning Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S and White Americans, even last year; Obama was the first to public ally demand Don Imus ouster for making a racially insensitive remark, and Obama continues to support Wrights racism and remains at the church for more than 20 years, he and Michelle obviously feels it’s a good environment to expose his young daughters too. His opinions and issues change with the weather, he is too UNSTABLE and proven he cannot make a decision or stay with one. If that’s not enough, then you start showing his terrible senate voting record, Obama when faced with tough choices always gave in to pressure from the Bush administration or corporate lobbyists, Obama dealings with one of his largest contributors, Exelon, a big nuclear power company and the deals he cut behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry. Obamas record shows he infact did support the war when he got to the senate, voted twice against bringing America's troops back home. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater where Texas woman, was gang-raped by her co-workers at a Halliburton/KBR camp in Baghdad, His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, if not suspended, keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come, but in his camp stumps touts he wants to bring troops home, but as we have witnessed his recent lies to voters like Canada he cannot be trusted on his word and lastly ALL the corrupt indicted financial backers, like Rezko…Get out of the race Obama you are destroying the democratic party!

MYTH: Barack Obama is running a positive campaign that will unite Americans.
FACT: Barack Obama and his advisers have conducted a divisive "full assault" on Hillary's character.
While talking a lot about the politics of hope, change and unity, Sen. Obama and his campaign have been conducting a relentless and singularly personal assault on Hillary's character. They have blanketed big states with false negative mailers and radio ads and have described Hillary and her campaign as "disingenuous," "divisive," "untruthful," "dishonest," "polarizing," "calculating," "saying whatever it takes to win," "attempting to deceive the American people," "one of the most secretive in America," “deliberately misleading,” “literally willing to do anything to win,” and “playing politics with war."
This "full assault" on Hillary's integrity and character has reached a new peak since Hillary's victories on March 4th. One of Sen. Obama's top surrogates equated President Clinton with Joe McCarthy; another called Hillary a "monster;" and his campaign manager held an angry conference call claiming that Hillary is "deeply flawed" and has "character issues." That's neither unifying nor hopeful. If Sen. Obama really is the prohibitive favorite some say he is, these negative attacks make absolutely no sense. Why would a frontrunner seek to attack and divide? If Sen. Obama can't unify Democrats in a primary, how can he unify Americans in a general election?

To the two previous posts.

Hillary and Bill Clinton's campaign has relied on the worst form of form of tactics:

Spreading false rumors that Barack is a muslim. Then refusing to clarify on 60 mins.

Manufacturing fake publicity stunt re NAFTA pre Ohio

Encouraging Rush's campaign to get republicans out to vote for Hillary and Bill supporting Rush's campaign by going on the radio.

And so on and so on. And you know what, it's transparent. All the Clintons have done is confirm what everyone thought but weren't sure of

They are arrogant, they have no morals, scruples, principles whatever you want to call it.

And now we see that Hillary is a compulsive liar.

The goggles are coming off and people don't like what they see.

The Clintons and their disgusting circle can try the transference technique as much as they like but the mud is well and truly stuck to them. They can't shake it off.

don't you think carville roughed up richardson in order to send a message to other superdelegates that if they jump ship, to expect similar treatment.

should work, cause you know how everybody loves a bully.

'Roughed up' Richardson? Give me a break, he called him a Judas, so what!

You telling me American's have lost their backbone?

Because all this handwringing over being called names by the Clintons and their friends looks a bit silly.

Surely standing up for what's right is strength. Name calling is easy, anyone can do that..

If people are that scared of the Clintons then there's something seriously amiss in America. Maybe that's what people should be wondering about, rather than whether Carville can think of a choice name to call you if you decide to exercise your right.

Really! I'm not scared of a fight (meaning don't take no sh*t) but I fight with principle, I'm a white woman with kids, I'm not a politician, I don't let other people make decisions for me. So I honestly can't comprehend any grown male or female in politics being scared of being called names.....if they are then they need to get some backbone.

Morning! (-;

And while we try to see if the Carville-think is endemic in HRC's campaign, we see that HRC's honesty is being questioned:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/26/hillary-clinton-truth-or-consequences/#more-470


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