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Talk about lies, snakes and scavengers.
Bill Clinton said she "immediately" corrected herself, which the article takes issue with. Like all things, it depends on your time scale, in geologic time, eleven day is less than a nano second. Back here with us humans, however, that's not so immediate.
If this doesn't remind the voters of everything we dislike about the Clintons and everything we're sick of, then I don't know what will. It encapsulates everything perfectly. Please exit stage left, Bill and Hillary.
I'm going with one or two of the comments in the prior thread about this. Why the hell did Bill decide to resurrect an issue that was pretty much dead? Has he completely lost his political skills, or is he taking his cues from Hillary who does not have particularly good political skills? Or both?
Does it make me an evil person to suspect that Bill might subconsciously be trying to undermine his wife?
Does it make me an evil person to suspect that Bill might subconsciously be trying to undermine his wife? I don't buy it. She's a fighter, if nothing else, and I can't believe she'd let him get away with it more than once with bitch slapping the ever-lovin' s*** out of him. It seems that he's regularly making blunders that hurt her campaign.
OMG! You people [the "liberal media"] are amazing. ambinder et al hate the Clintons. We get it. The "liberal media" clowning gave us 8 years of bush, depleted our treasure [not only money but more than 4000 lives], oceans of blood and has help repubs destroy the known world. Yet the "liberal media" still will not stop clowning. Amazing. They are not human.
I love how Clinton supporters throw the "wasted our treasure and 4000 lives" line out there, as if she really was "voting for more diplomacy" on a bill entitled "Authorization for the Use of Military Force".
My favorite part of what he had to say is when he mentioned that when her critics turn 60, they too would forget things because they're tired at 11 pm. Thank you, Bill. We now have great confidence in Hillary answering the phone at 3 a.m.
More of the same. Every day. I was very unimpressed with Tapper's gotcha errors. I challenge everyone here to tell a story of something that happened to them 12 years ago, repeatedly, on the record. Then lets compare each version with each other, and with the actual facts, assuming the actual facts can be assembled with any confidence when you are relying on recalled eyewitness testimony of 12 year old events (actually in the case of "Moose", not even a recollection of the specific events of that time, but a recollection of his ordinary practices). I make my living destroying this kind of stuff under oath. But is it really worth the continued daily snark and hatred? Does anyone here have a clue as to how to go about unifying the party? I must tell you I am greatly afraid for our prospects in the fall if this stuff continues on a daily basis. And by this stuff I mean the constant drum beat of the blogs vilifying all things Clinton and thereby vilifying, by implication, her supporters. Am I the only one here who really wants to win in the fall and understands that in order to do so we better stand down the snark and stand up for unification?
You people [the "liberal media"] are amazing. ambinder et al hate the Clintons. We get it. The "liberal media" clowning gave us 8 years of bush, depleted our treasure [not only money but more than 4000 lives], oceans of blood and has help repubs destroy the known world. Yet the "liberal media" still will not stop clowning. Amazing. I'm not sure I even understand what your point is, but how do Bush's incredibly bad decisions justify congenital lying from the Clintons? What's disturbing about Clinton is how similar she is to Dubya: hates having her authority or authenticity questioned, doles out information only when she thinks it's necessary, freely deceives the voters to get what she wants.
I challenge everyone here to tell a story of something that happened to them 12 years ago, repeatedly, on the record. First, if it involved either being shot at or not, and with my daughter in tow, I think I'd remember what happened. It's not comparable to the day she bought a pet. This would be HUGE in anybody's life. Second, the lie was crucial to bolstering her foreign policy cred. Without the lie (or lies, if you add in the border crossing bulls*** and her "exaggeration" of bringing peace to Ireland), her foreign policy argument is meaningless ... which it is. To give you a different example, she also blew the story about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary, but nobody gives a damn because she wasn't using it to bolster her cred as a mountaineer in order to get elected President.
I gotta be honest..I was like....all the blood had been spilled on this issue. Why is he putting the knife in again? Is Colombia that bad...is there something we don't know about Colombia that's WORSE than SniperGate, to the point where SniperGate Revisited looks like the better option?
But is it really worth the continued daily snark and hatred? Does anyone here have a clue as to how to go about unifying the party? I must tell you I am greatly afraid for our prospects in the fall if this stuff continues on a daily basis. And by this stuff I mean the constant drum beat of the blogs vilifying all things Clinton and thereby vilifying, by implication, her supporters. Am I the only one here who really wants to win in the fall and understands that in order to do so we better stand down the snark and stand up for unification? Yes it's worth it, because we want to be better than the neocons and the corrupt administration now in power. We want to win with integrity and honesty. The Clintons represent a shift to the left compared to Bush, but not a shift in integrity, transparency, or credibility. I don't want to win the White House at any cost. That's what brought us to where we are now. The constant lying and retconning signal an inherent problem with the Clintons, and speaks directly to why I want Bush (or Bush II, AKA McCain) out of the White House: the presidency has to be about the country and its challenges, not about that individual or their ego. The Clintons have proven to have a collective, limitless ego pretty much unfettered by things like basic honesty, genuine care for the electorate, and respect for their own party. If the choices in November are Clinton and McCain, I'm going to have either sit it out or write in a name.
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You are not counting lawyerly speak as "errors", right?
"I did not have sex with that woman" too!
Posted by D | April 11, 2008 10:57 AM