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Seeing as how the Clinton campaign is now putting 75% of their ad budget into the most negative ads they've run in the cycle, I think it's going to be more like the "corporate lawyer for Walmart"/"political favors for a slumlord" debate than the "we are both so proud of each other" debate. 
Has anyone seen this? If the bitter, elitist comments are brought up again, this could come back to bite her. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html
I just know we can expect Hillary to get grilled over her "screw 'em" dismissal of the bitter, huddled masses. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html
Wonder just how over-the-top Hillary will be in trashing "elitist" Obama for his SanFran comments. I think she runs a real risk of getting too hot and losing any advantage gained by Obama's verbal slip. http://www.political-buzz.com/
Stephanopolous (sp?) is supposed to ask Obama about his association with the William Ayers and the Weather Underground. Do you denounce, reject, renounce, repudiate,deplore, condemn ...I can't think of any more synonyms, his support?
Here's a priceless video that really sums up Hillary's (Hmmmm. What do they call that? Oh, yeah.) LYING quite nicely. It contains her own comments from 1992 and compares them to her lies on Bosnia, NAFTA, and now it appears that she lied about her daddy teaching her to fire a gun (unless they stopped at somebody's house to borrow it). Also a nice comparison of going after Obama for being out of touch to her "I could have stayed home and baked cookies" remark. I've seen more realism in a wax museum than Hillary has displayed over the past 6 months.
I've seen more realism in a wax museum than Hillary has displayed over the past 6 months. That might help to explain her favorability ratings hitting an all-time low of late. I caught maybe 10min of her at CNN's ridiculous "compassion forum". It was excruciating. The contrast with Obama was fairly striking.
Serious question: If "bitter/cling" caused such an uproar, what are we to make of "screw 'em"? I mean, can you really parse a phrase like "screw 'em"? Or is this just more evidence that Hillary Clinton will say anything, do anything, be anyone in order to win?
Or is this just more evidence that Hillary Clinton will say anything, do anything, be anyone in order to win? I think that's been pretty clearly established by now. I want to know where her daddy got the gun he used when teaching her to shoot. As the video showed, she already indicated that they didn't have a gun in the house. Where did the gun come from, Hillary? What kind of gun was it? Was it a long gun or a hand gun? Who was the owner? What did you shoot at? Or were you tired and misspoke? I swear that woman lies conversationally. Some of her lies are so poor and easy to verify as lies that I don't think they are politically calculated. I think she just can't stop herself. "Yeeeeeah, that's the ticket."
If anyone can find any way to watch/listen to this without a TV (we're still at work here on the Left Coast), please be an angel and let me know. And Marc, finding out that information should be SOP for you.
The Question is How Can Hillary Win? No one is asking Hillary the very simple basic question how she can win more votes than Obama. The race was over 5 weeks ago when Obama won more Texas Delegates. The math is simple arithmetic; it is not rocket science as some media personnel and Hillary want to pretend. For weeks now many media personnel have pretended it is a horse race. It is intentionally deceptive, misleading, and is in fact a blatant lie to pretend Hillary will get more votes. Hillary supporters raved about a 20 point win in Pennsylvania that even after her rabid attacks has not materialized. Both Indiana and North Carolina primary polls show that Hillary will not win 70% of the vote anywhere. Denying the truth and ignoring the math does not help the Democratic Party! How long is the media going to let Hillary continue this lie? It is time the media told the truth and called on Hillary to tell the truth. Steve Atlanta GA
It is amazing that the most smug, cynical and condescending campaign in recent memory has the gall to call the most hopeful, people-powered and non-establishment campaign a condescending one. Hillary is a bitter woman who feels we all owe her for marrying a lying louse. Democrats better end this thing soon. The Clintons look out for #1 and that #1 doesn't include any of us.
Ethan and others, Here's an live online link to the debate. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/index Tips to the Field for the heads up.
Coltrane: Big ups, as the kids say.
William Ayers came up. The Daily kos people were right. Dang.
How can anyone in their right mind vote anyone into the office of the President of the United States when they have no problem telling lies? Just tell another one to cover up for the last one she told. Hillary Clinton has really shown me that she is as phony as two left shoes. There is already too much hatred in the world. Instead of talking about why someone sits in church based on a short clip on YouTube. She just might want to go sit in somebody’s church or at least read the Bible. (The 10 Commandments) She is VERY disrespectful and will do and say anything to benefit herself. I am a Democrat. "BUT, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON".
Debate? You call that ridiculous, one-sided, biased attack on Obama tonight a debate? And why was Stephanopolous chosen as a moderator when he's a former Clinton staffer? That was a joke! Well I guess we all know now who the Big Guy at ABC News who signs their paychecks is voting for....do these so-called "journalists" have ANY professional integrity left at all? They have made a circus of one of the most important duties and responsibilities we have as citizens. Shame on them We're pissed off and we won't take it anymore! !
Hillary frames the debate as if both she and Obama said things that just weren't true. Barack says his words got mangled, but not his meaning, it happens. Hillary says she out and out lied, it happens. So, they're even. Or are they? His was a faux pas, a social blunder, to which he readily admits. On the other hand, she tells the most blatant falsehoods for political gain, gets caught by video evidence, but continues to lie about the lying. Her husband even gets into the act, by lying about the lying too. Making them both big fat compound liars. Tonight she says okay I lied, it happens. EXCUSE ME ... EXCUSE ME! BUT I'M NOT BUYING THIS BS! There are SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES, it’s not just Hillary’s dishonesty; that’s a fact not in dispute. It’s rather Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior that goes back farther, and goes much deeper than anyone realizes, yet none addresses it: http://theseedsof9-11.com
The debate was an embarassment for the United States of America! It was unfair and unbalanced! Tt was representative of FOXNEWS; taken from Sean Hannity's Playbook! The American People deserve an APOLOGY! No substance: only sensationalism! What a DISGRACE!!!
The debate was an embarassment for the United States of America! It was unfair and unbalanced! Tt was representative of FOXNEWS; taken from Sean Hannity's Playbook! The American People deserve an APOLOGY! No substance: only sensationalism! What a DISGRACE!!!
The debate was an embarassment for the United States of America! It was unfair and unbalanced! Tt was representative of FOXNEWS; taken from Sean Hannity's Playbook! The American People deserve an APOLOGY! No substance: only sensationalism! What a DISGRACE!!!
The debate was an embarassment for the United States of America! It was unfair and unbalanced! Tt was representative of FOXNEWS; taken from Sean Hannity's Playbook! The American People deserve an APOLOGY! No substance: only sensationalism! What a DISGRACE!!!
This debate was a travesty. The world is watching and ABC's news media imbeciles make us appear even more ridiculous than 8 years of George W. Bush have done. What are these moderators thinking and what in the world is Hillary Clinton trying to do? Is she hoping to become the VP nominee with McCain? I am disgusted with ABC and the moderators!
ABC did not have a debate. This tablod circus effent was an attack against Barack Obama. Shame on you ABC.
It was shameful. What about the real issues affecting our country?
It was shameful. What about the real issues affecting our country?
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Will Clinton try bittergate one more time? Will she avoid it but still be negative? Or go for the mild-mannered wonk?
This is one place where Penn's allegedly reduced influence might show, if she aims for "get to know me; I'm a nice person" rather than "I'm tough and not afraid to throw a punch."
I don't like the nasty swipes, but a wonk debate where they discuss the economy in minutia for 30 minutes will knock the audience unconscious. (Possibly the moderator too.) That would have the added benefit of convincing future states they don't really want their own debates.
Posted by Deborah | April 16, 2008 2:59 PM