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05 Sep 2008 03:54 pm

How should the Obama campaign respond to the Palin phenom?


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Ignore it. Attack McCain's policies, keep talking about Obama's agenda.

They should focus on McCain and his issue positions and should also talk about Palin's issue positions and what she did in Alaska. As they have already pledged to do and have done, they should leave the personal aspects behind. Don't bother with ads but use surrogates, particularly women and former Clinton supporters.

Most of all, they should keep their eyes on the ball and draw issue contrasts, argue that this election matters a great deal for what government will do and whether it helps or hurts people and keep doing the fabulous field work.

Don't give her any more attention than she deserves. If she says something about policy (which doesn't look likely at the moment), respond on policy. Otherwise, ignore her and go after McCain, McCain, Bush-McCain. Pretty much what Ross said.

Bush, McCain, Palin: peas in a pod


Ignore it. Focus on Obama's agenda. Attack McCain's policies.

What amazes me is that (1) Obama didn't tap HRC for the ticket and (2) the campaign was so stunned that McCain would pick a woman. It seemed entirely predictable that McCain would do that when Obama chose Biden. It stuns me that Obama's people didn't even consider the possibility.

They should continue to campaign they way they have been. Focus on the issues that make a difference in peoples lives and let the GOP live out their little soap opera. I firmly belive that Pork Barrel Sarah will take herself down.

I think it is absurd that the McCain campaign wants us to have confidence that Palin is qualified and prepared enough to be VP or President yet they don't have enough confidence in her to let her talk to reporters. If she can't face Brian Williams how are we suppose to believe that she could face world leaders from say Iran, Russia or Pakistan?

Sparkle and fade.

Sparkle and fade.


There is very little 'there' there.

There is no need to make this about Sarah Palin. Her inexperience will shine through and really make people sick to their stomachs.

Just a year after reading about 'the surge' 'in the news' she is now acting like an authority.

It's sickening to think that she could be leading the country. She was a scandal-plagued mayor, a scandal-plagued governor, and has never even thought about foreign policy. She is Bush in shinier packaging.

Obama seems to have a hard time ignoring her the way "sources" say he wants to and if he keeps getting caught up in these experiences debates with McCain's #2, it's no good for him. It's obvious the campaign is confused at the moment and taken aback.

Attack McCain... No one votes for VP anyway. Every attack on Biden or Palin is a wasted attack.

BTW, will you be releasing the tracking polls daily or should we look for them at another web site?

Keep the focus on Bush/McCain, and ground game, ground game, ground game. Don't get caught up in trying to win the news cycle. Palin is an exciting candidate for the GOP, but she's not going to win this election for them and she's not the top of the ticket.

Ditto. I posted Ross' advice on my Obama blog.

Send out the female Governor's, surrogates and especially Hillary to put the heat to Palin -- and then unleash Biden on her at the debate (can't wait!).

Obama can just keep plugging McCain about the economy, etc.

I concur. Ignore her. Let surrogates paint Palin as unqualified and a mean-spirited extremist.
But they should ignore her, focus on McCain and let the scrutiny turn over to her.

As has been repeated thousands of times since the beginning of the race, if the race turns around anything other than Obama himself, he will win.

And from the way she is being handled (avoiding interviews and giving the same speeches over and over) I suspect she is not even that good.

easy. ignore her and focus on the guy at the top of the ticket.

which is what they are doing.

Four-pronged attack:

1. Investigate!

2. Use less-prominent surrogates to shame the press into vetting her, interviewing her, asking hard questions about her.

3. Obama, Biden, and high-profile surrogates should absolutely, 100% avoid her and assume she's teflon, make the campaign about McCain.

4. At some point, if she remains the celebrity of the day, attack her (through surrogates) as a petty small-town politician whose claim to executive experience is censoring the town-library's books and firing a police commissioner, and then who lies -- about firing, about the bridge to nowhere, etc. She's all hat and no . . . moose . . . or something like that.

I doubt using Hillary Clinton will have any effect whatsoever contra Palin.

Ignore her...

This is a contest against McCain.

You didn't hear many at the RNC taking shots at Joe Biden -- they are focused at the top of the ticket, as we should be.

Of course, I am assuming that if we leave her the rope she will hang herself, which is I am guessing that we have the luxury of ignoring her.

Ignore her for the most part, let the media deal with her. Focus less energy and ad money on states like Colorado with big evangelical populations, where it may now be difficult to win.

"She's experienced enough to be president. So let's move on from this whole experience debate and focus on the issues -- and we look forward to her take on them."

Rather than call into question McCain's judgment in selecting such an inexperienced candidate, use the pick to argue that McCain has admitted Obama is prepared to be president.

Also, investigate the National Inquirer adultery charge (quietly). Can't rely on the press to do it now -- they're somewhat cowed.

Focus on McCain and middle class issues and treat the Palin phenomenon as a mildly amusing side issue.

If that doesn't work, later in the month they can tag her as a former Ted Stevens fundraiser who loves earmarks.

Avoid commenting on her at least until the dust settles and the deluge of scandals subsides. Probably best to avoid discussing (and especially attacking) her for the remainder of the season and let the media eat her alive. If she gets in a good jab, have Obama laugh it off or maybe even let Joe make a "gaffe" by riffing on it in a friendly and inoffensive way. The most important thing is to give her the rope to hang herself, let her do all the attacking and fight the culture war while you're across the stage chuckling and shrugging to the American people. Let people figure out that they don't like her for themselves.

What phenom? Just another far right doctrinaire idealogue who is out of touch on issues. And, phenoms rarelyl have staying power. let her fade and flace out on hre own. If the drip drip doesn't do it, time will.

I have confidence in the Obama campaign's long-term planning, AND in their ability to respond to the ever-changing ground game. They have done almost everything well so far, in spite of all the naysaying.

Obama should take every opportunity (as he is - do you see McCain on Countdown?) to get out there, show his mettle, talk about the issues, and RUN AGAINST MCCAIN, who is his opponent, after all.

Palin will self-destruct. She is the Stepford pick, and the chip implanted in her brain by the campaign will malfunction at some point.

And I still think that Biden can.......dissect her politely in the debate.

As others have said, keep the focus on Bush and McCain. To the extent that Palin is worth mentioning, portray her as a conservative that, for all of her biography and personality, will still support and further entrench the policies of the last eight years. Under the table, keep the various Palin controversies stoked, and release campaign statements suggesting that the campaign has not comment, but that Gov. Palin should answer questions before the media. Build up the pressure for her to Meet the Press. Above all, do not let the Republicans lower expectations for the debate; say that her convention speech was a big success and that more of the same is to be expected in the debate against Biden.

I think they are doing exactly what they need to do. Ignore her. Engaging her extends her credibility at a time when stories like 6 colleges in 6 years are coming off the presses each day. If she's still around a few weeks from now they may need adjust.

I'm not even quite sure Obama/Biden are as "confused" as many make them out to be. In response to an earlier comment, I think a lot of people may have "expected" a woman VP pick from McCain, but certainly Palin wasn't even in the top three of even that expectation. Careful not to get caught in the hindsight.

Obama/Biden did exactly what they needed to do at the Convention. And Obama kept a fairly low profile during the RNC, just as McCain did during the DNC. Palin and associated stories are completely dominating the news, and will for the next few days. Let it.

Obama/Biden need to keep plugging away at McCain. And realize that dispite this new enthusiasm from Conservatives, they're in a great spot. Up any amount after the RNC going into the debates is nothing to scoff at.

The Obama camp should question her "reform" credentials as a bridge-to-nowhere flip-flopper and a corrupt "troopergate" governor, and portray her as a far right social conservative, which is what she is.

I would also say they should seriously question her readiness to be president in an emergency; for goodness sake, this woman has no stated position on any major foreign OR domestic policy issue. Granted, she did deliver a vitriolic, substanceless, brutish, nasty and long speech, written by a political hack, for a right-wing choir, with poise. Bravo.

Of course, the Obama camp can't question her readiness, because it will immediately open up the Obama-Palin comparisons, which is a very, very bad idea.

But the notion that Barack Obama--who had written his own speech convention speeches, and was seriously addressing issues like nuclear proliferation as a state senator, is in any way, similar to Sarah Palin--in terms of eloquence, knowledge of policy, or sheer political skill is absurd.

Perhaps Sarah Palin will wow the country when she sits down for a number of interviews with people who ask, ya know, real questions. But until then, I will view her speech, and subsequent emergence as a GOP "star" as nothing more than the political hack job that it first was when Matthew Scully began composing it.

Compare McCain's "maverick who cares" speech to Bush's "conservative who cares" speech from the 2000 convention. In detail. And often. The same vague talking points on social issues then were there in McCain's speech last night. Let's not get fooled again.

marc: i think the republican conventions got joe biden riled up, he had a pretty good response in his pa town hall remarks - the link of the vid is below

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1845

Nothing. The media is furious with McCain for not giving access to her, and going to war with them. so now I notice how the MSM always likes to point out that they aren't giving interviews, answering questions because she is studying up. They are freely reinforcing the "She's not ready to be a heartbeat away from Presidency".

so what is the Obama camp doing? they are hitting and hitting hard on the economy which is what people want, and McCain can't really answer back 1) because his plan is too much like Bush's and he doesn't want to talk details 2) he is stuck on the defensive in his war with the media over Palin.

The election will be won on the ground, and on the ground people see Palin as a gimmick who is not ready. fighting with the media and hiding her away doesn't help.

Barack and Biden -- be respectful and ignore her.

HRC/ and others attack her lies and ethics:
earmarks, troopergate, women's rights and AIP to paint her as a hypocrite.

Also, call her out.. she can't be a "pit bull" yet not do interviews.

She'll implode shortly ... there are so many stories

AIP
Troopergate
Affair
earmarks
etc.

They can't avoide the press forever.

Exactly what they're doing now - ignore her.

The media is doing a great job of dripping all the juicy tidbits of her nasty little shenanigans up in the snow, and slowly but surely the memory of her speech will give way to the harsh reality of a newbie that no one knows who's cowering up in Alaska while the media defines her.

If she needs any kind of responding, I'd leash Hillary and Wasserman Schultz on her, but otherwise Obama and Biden should just ignore her as they've been doing.

I think Chicago is like a deer-in-headlights. When I talk to non-political friends, their attraction to McCain-Palin is similar to the attraction to Obama in early 07: just something refreshingly new about the personality, appearence and presentation. I'd press her and McCain to detail their change from Bush. Getting caught up in records is looking in the rearview mirror. Look to the horizon and mockingly and relentlessly ask what they'll do different, hoping to drive a wedge between the base-beloved Bush and Indie's. I'd also advise Obama to have a sister-suljha moment soon, to show his independence. McCain is scared to highlight any of his for fear of depressing an excited base, hence no mention of anything in his Acceptance speech.

Keep doing exactly what they're doing--remind people every day that the election is about McCain, and that McCain represents four more years of Bush.

The Obama campaign has done everything right so far, and I don't think they're about to stop now.

Sarah Palin -- Untested Celebrity

I have a very counter-intuitive take on this...

Ignore her.

Ignore her? No. She is further proof that McCain's tied himself to Bush. She is a Bush Republican. Somehow the punditry was saying how the pick beefs up his maverick credentials in the same breath as saying she was a play for the base. Those two things don't go together. The more people hear about her far-right outlook, the better. McCain/Palin should be an easier sell that this is Bush/Cheney redux.

Honestly,

There isn't much he should do. She's new and the extremist right is in love with her but she really offers nothing to independents. This election will be close so keep to the game plan and continue doing the hard work of registering voters and developing the GOTV for election day.

She will get ALOT of attention but ride the storm. It's good to have the spotlight off to do the nessessary work without the distraction. She will be tought and she will be rude and cynical but after hearing that over and over again people will get sick of her. We live in a polorized country so keep your base intact and try to win over independents.

Take a back seat for a while, while letting the media take some of the heat off of them.

However, I think they need to work Palin into their meta-narrative that Bush and McCain are synonomous with one another, and despite McCain's "Maverick" image, he chose just another Bush ideologue despite her gender.

I think once the debates begin, we're going to see the Obama team unload a lot of the opposition research against Palin, and perhaps try and tie McCain's "Keating-Five" scandal, Palin's "Trooper-Gate" scandal, and the 8 scandal-filled years of the Bush administration to argue that we can't simply exchange one incompetent group for another.

I'm very suspicious of the "ignore her" tactic. Kerry tried this with the swift boaters and we know how that turned out...

When this campaign is about Obama personally, that's when his numbers suffer. Under any other condition, he has decent leads in the polls. If anything this is a pleasant distraction. There's not much oxygen right now for attack ads, for questioning Barack's character. Palin is the be-all and end-all of coverage this week.

Use this respite to campaign and talk issues and keep on keepin' on. In the long term, she polarizes the bases and our base is bigger this year.

Convention bounces fade, and we're examining Palin at the zenith of her convention bounce. She's not the lights-out wild card that she appears to be at this moment.

Stop talking about experience and her personal life. Focus on the issues and take the questions to her, so she is forced to answer.

Ask her why she is going back on her promise to cooperate with the troopergate

Ask her if she really believes it is god will's to build another oil pipeline in alaska?

Ask her how she left her small town with a budget deficit despite getting $27M in earmarks?

Ask her what books she wanted removed from the public library?

Ask her how being geographically close to Russia gives her foreign policy experience?

Ask her how she was commander in chief of the national guard when Bush took away that power in 2006? What decisions did she make as commander?

Ask her why she doesn't believe in global warming?

Ask her why she hates community organizers? Who is she fighting for?

She's against choice, pro-abstinence only education, and anti-funding teen pregnancy programs. So what exactly will she do to help?

Ask her the tough questions through the press, and force her to respond. She can't hide behind the smoke and mirrors forever. Draw attention to the fact that she hasn't clarified her policy on any major issues and draw her out into the open.

i would pin palins lies (bridge, ebay plane, reform) and her refusal to testify to gonzo and the bushies. tailor the same attack you have been using to her. she's just more of the same. deficits, lobbyists, lies.

I'd also add that waiting for the media to take her down or thinking she'll fizzle is not realistic. She made an initial "gut-level" connection with a lot of regular folks, which in politics is gold. This connection, which Obama too has made (with about 47% of America) is why he survived Wright, and the thin resume himself. Some gotcha moment with Palin will not likely break that connection. And McCain won't *likely* put her in situation where she can really screw-up.

Play the race card.

Of course ignoring her is a good idea. But why is everyone so certain the media will do their job and report on Palin? It took a lot longer than 60 days for Obamamania to die down, and for the media--and voters--to take a sharper look. Just sayin'...

Starting with the 'This Week' appearance, attack McCain hard on the economy as often as you can. Focus on the ground game and voter registration on the youth/minority voters. Ignore Palin, leave that to the minor surrogates traveling in Florida (hit on the housing numbers here). Press the media to cover the various, legitimate scandals that Palin has in Alaska.

Basically, keep on doin' what you've been doin'.

I think it is smart not to have Hillary go after Palin. The media would just play it as a "cat fight."

Obama and Biden should ignore her officially while getting surragates to hit her hard on abortion, crazy evangelical positions, etc...

Hey Norm~
I was going to post the exact same thing. She's just more of the same, only this time with an ugly accent.

I agree with the conventional wisdom expressed above. After watching the video of her addressing her church in Wassila (sp?) and the video of her addressing the press about troopergate, I feel she's much less of a "star" than folks realize. In both instances, she didn't appear to be making much sense -- whatever she was trying to communicate at the church came across in a confused jumble and her denials about pressuring Monegan to fire Wooten were weakly delivered.

The post-speech jibes by the dems and the blue pundits about her only proving that she can read a teleprompter felt sort of pro forma, but my feeling after watching those clips is that she's lost without one.

I'm very curious to see how she presents after her crash course in media management, ie how good are those Rove proteges at transforming regular human beings into effective political products. If they don't do a great job, she, along with the messes she left behind in Alaska, could do her in quite easily.

I think the choice stunned everyone because no one thought McCain would make such a reckless decision and make a highly political choice vs choose someone who will be ready to be president on day 1.

What should obama campaign do?
1. I agree they should make this about McCain and his "relationship" with Bush. The fact that he has no new ideas and nor does Sarah.

2. As I think Josh Marshall had said, they need to mock the whole concept of change coming from the republican party which is...wait...in power! I'm not creative enough to come up with a script or ad but I am sure there are others who can come up with something. I liked the huffpost headline last night which said " Me too: I want change"

3. They need at least one high profile event at some point in teh next 2 weeks with Bill Clinton in a small town in Ohio where Bill skewers the republicans and their ideas and reiterates his support for Barack.

4. Barack and Hillary need to campaign together more and more in PA, MI, and OH. If we win those 3, we are good to go. It's great that Hillary is going to Florida but they will get more media attention if they campaigned together.

5. Conduct daily conf call with media/reporters where they go on the offensive EVERY SINGLE DAY regarding both McCain and Palin. Question whether Mccain really is a maverick given how he's falling in line behind the extremist conservatives (yes extremist is a good word, they should use that often). They should also use the word dangerous a lot. McCain is dangerous for the country. His rhetoric against Russia is dangerous etc. Also challenge Sarah during these calls. Is she really a reformer? highlight her extremist views. Use these words in attack ads also which they need to release with greater frequency than they have. They also need to make their ads more punchy and to the point.

Every day Obama spends talking about Palin is a day spent not talking about McCain/Bush and his own agenda. Let the MSM and blogs investigate and the truth will out. Right now, she's the shiny new kid in town. Her popularity exceeds Obama or McCain's according to Rasmussen. As the results from Troopergate, the support of the bridge to nowhere, the book banning efforts, the extreme position on abortion, and who knows what other revelations, are fully aired, she'll come back down to earth. Right now, Obama should not mention her, concentrate on making this a referendum on the Bush presidency and hope the media does its job.

Put Hillary on the trail non-stop.

1) Let the National Enquirer do its job and the mainstream media theirs.
2) Whatever's left, let Hillary eat for dinner.

Use Biden to appeal to seniors with saving Soc. Sec.

Target economy and healthcare. Use HRC and WJC (to the extent possible) to hammer away on the economy. WJC especially could sell the economy this if he wanted to and HRC could sell health care reform.

Must do a better job highlighting differences in tax plan.

Deprive Palin of oxygen as best possible but hit contradictions hard where possible . . . Palin on earmarks vs. McCain on earmarks. Try to drive a wedge between Palin and security hawks like Krauthammer.

I think it's a twofold response. The campaign should let some of her luster wear off by focusing on McCain. Make this campaign about McCain and attack his proposals, or lack-there-of, and diminish the number of times that they bring Palin's name up. Focus on the issues, because even if it is a campaign talking point, it works

On the other hand, they also have to push back, not necessarily against Palin herself, but against the McCain campaign narrative that has been created about her.

Arguing that she's more experienced than Obama politically? A complete fabrication and should be pointed out. On the national stage, how well do 6 years as mayor of a town of 9,000 really prepare someone for the second highest office in the land? Is being mayor inherently better for some reason than 7 years in a state senate?

Make the argument that she has more executive experience? She's not on the top of the ticket and the guy on the top has as much as Obama.

A reformer? Point out her annual trips to Washington to lobby for pork on the behalf of Wasillia. And that whole "Bridge to Nowhere"? . . .

Ready to be commander in chief? A fairly delicate issue (as are all that have similar Obama backlashes) and be careful to approach without a hint of sexism. However, in needs to be more widely known that she's been out of the country once and unless Cindy McCain is an expert, living close to Russia only means that you probably know how much Putin freezes his ass off.

A person with small town values? Sure, she's been the head of a small town and that's commendable. But point out that her stance on a number of issues puts her at odds with many small town independents.

The luster and glow of Gov. Palin WILL wear off, it's only a matter of time. The debate with Biden will be essential and will define her more than anything she said in front of her base.

Echoing comments above...Ignore Palin, focus on McCain and his similarity to Bush. The Palin Phenom actually takes care of itself, as more and more comes out about her and the press, blogs & tabloids continue to dig up dirt.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't take her seriously. She'll be well-prepped for the debates, and will come off well. Biden's got to be prepared to deal with her stylistically, though substantively he should be fine.

If McCain is going to campaign as a maverick, create TV ads that show McCain the former maverick vs. McCain the Republican lapdog (during the primaries). Show how he consistently compromised his "principled maverick" position to win the Republican nomination, and now he is trying to pretend that never happened. Who better to attack McCain than McCain?

Ignore her petty attacks.

If she talks about policy, smack her down hard.

Have Biden grind her into hamburger in the debate.

Her various scandals should do the rest, provided the media doesn't totally become McCain's lickspittle.

Sorry for reposting- hit the refresh without clearing these fields.

Aggressively riffing on the pittbull with lipstick meme with a lipstick on a pig meme, would be a good start.

To follow up on my comments above, I think the Obama camp must be extremely frustrated right now because they have lost a their rhetorical bearings. (Marc, you took Engell's class, you agree with me that some of Obama's speeches could be used as case studies in Farrell's book, no? But more than that, the Obama campaign is a study in the art of "Rhetoric" insofar as the campaign represents one big normative argument about the nature of politics and governance.) Obama has up to now been in nearly complete control of the rhetorical bearings of this campaign *and of the political conversation.* Palin, who comes out of the blue, threatens to undermine that mastery because (1) Obama was completely unprepared, having not thought through what she would mean, and (2) Palin has forced the country back to questions of cultural identification as opposed to questions of policy and governance.

And this is the real problem for Obama; there are all sorts of ways to "go after" Palin and McCain, but I don't see how you regain the rhetorical command of the campaign at this point. How does Obama not go from controlling the entire narrative of the campaign and, for the most part, the political conversation in the country to being almost completely reactive?

The key to "going after" Palin (aside from going for the jugular -- that is, unearthing the silver bullet scandal) is to figure out a way to wrest the argument away from her control. I don't know how you do that.

Maybe a big speech on the culture wars.

bring clinton and let her do all the talking vs palin. have the female democrats attack her (and wait for palin to attack back, which she's not gonna do for the next week! she's not even holding press conferences)

obama/biden should just ignore her attacks and attack mccain. remind people how the republicans keep recycling all these stupid rumors. i dont know why obama/ biden cant be more sarcastic when they attack mccain.

americans have such trouble with ADD and i think visual aids perot-style are extremely important. american's are bored of hearing from politicians because theyre either lies or half true or true. why cant obama just give these people datas and let them see for themselves?

if i were to run for presidency, i'd rather have visual aids with me than just talking to them. most americans dont have time to look up for facts considering the tv doesnt serve them that all the time.

keep the focus on McCain, he's the one running for Prez. The Palin coverage will begin to decrease. I can't help but think that by the time we have 3 presidential debates, the focus will be on McCain\Obama, not on Palin.

I think it's a stretch to say that Palin is a "phenom"..

Turn the McCain/Palin "maverick" theme against them.

They are unpredictable loose cannons. They half nuts. They can't be trusted with the affairs of state. If we can't trust them to stick by the party that elected them, how can we trust them to stick by American voters?

Also (more covertly) their bizarre, soap-opera families are not like those of decent suburban Americans. See by contrast Barack with his first and only wife Michelle and their beautiful 2.5 non-pregnant daughters. So nice.

In an Eagle forum she said the "in God we trust" in the pledge was good enough for the founding fathers so its good enough for us.

This could reflect a knowledge deficit. Biden could try getting into a discussion about the constitution and its amendments referring to them by the numbers . . . I think past the bill or rights this might be difficult for any but seasoned polls.

Obliterate her.

Point out that Palin was flat-out lying on what is supposed to be her signature accomplishment:
"I told the Congress thanks, but no thanks on that Bridge to Nowhere"

See Bob Somerby for details:
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh090408.shtml

Hammer McCain and his refusal to talk shop.

Palin needs to be demythologized sooner rather than later. The McCain campaign can attempt to blur the distinction between personal attacks and legitimate, substantive criticism of Palin's record, but that approach will become increasingly transparent the more indiscriminately it's used.

This isn't the time for the Obama campaign to drop the ball. Palin is precisely the reverse of McCain's packaging of her, and the Obama camp needs to put out ads focused particularly on her abuse of the earmarks system as mayor and her pro-Bridge to Nowhere gubernatorial campaign. The reformist veneer adopted by McCain/Palin needs to be stripped before it has time to set, so to speak.

This will have the collateral benefit of highlighting the McCain campaign's refusal to let Palin anywhere near the media, outside of tightly scripted and controlled environments. She'll be forced to defend her record, or look weak for failing to do so.

If Obama's intention is to take a hands-off approach and let the hype run its course, it could prove to be a huge miscalculation.

They should definitely continue to focus on McCain. Palin is a distraction and should be regarded as one.

But the Obama camp should also be pressing the media to demand access to Palin. The McCain team wants to media to show the handshaking and the baby-kissing and the photo ops, but they don't want to shield their own candidate for Vice President from questions. That's intolerable.

The media should be telling McCain "No questions, no coverage". And the Obama camp ought to be working the ref on this.

I don't think the Obama camp should do anything to respond. I think they are campaigning against McCain, and talking about Palin invariable creates what I think may have been one of the core benefits of her selection; she's new and hot and interesting, which was one of the thing going for Obama. Talking negatively about her experience always results in comparisons to Obama's experience. Questions are always framed as “You say Obama doesn’t have enough experience, but she’s the same.” This does three things, I think:

  1. Starts the questioning by repeating McCain’s message of Obama’s inexperience, without McCain having to push that button.
  2. By comparing Obama to Palin, there is an implicit belittling of Obama’s credentials. In other words, the debate assumes McCain is qualified, and we’re really discussing who is better between the Democrat’s starter vs. Republican’s backup, which is a political version of “Does this dress make me look fat?”
  3. Helps the expectations game: All gaffes can be excused as rookie mistakes; all good performances overrated; and will transform Biden’s snarky, snide style from being quirky and charming to patronizing or demeaning.

Employ "folksy" but powerful surrogates like Brian Schweitzer and Jim Webb to go after McCain/Palin on their energy "policy", pro-life stances, elitism charges

It's the economy, stupid. Unemployment up to 6.1% I didn't hear Palin or McCain talk much about jobs. Focus on issues; ignore Palin.

Conventional wisdom seems to be saying that Obama should ignore Palin and go after McCain. But it's pretty obvious that Palin is going to go after Obama quite frontally. And while that may be standard fare for a VP candidate, Palin isn't a typical VP candidate and the media's fascination with her will draw attention to every word she says (especially since she won't be giving extemporaneous interviews).

I think if Obama tries to ignore her attacks completely he'll risk coming off as weak, like he did in August with the "celebrity" charges. So his campaign - not Obama himself - needs to find some way to fend off her attacks without directly engaging her and "lowering" himself to fighting with a VP candidate. I think there are a few ways to do this.

First, make Palin an extension of Bush/McCain; she's on the McCain ticket, so she too is endorsing the failed policies of Bush/McCain. For all the hype surrounding her, she's just another conventional Republican. (To some degree, Obama is already doing this...David Axelrod made this point yesterday.)

Second, hammer home the issue of McCain's judgment for rushing and not adequately vetting his VP pick. The key here is to make this about McCain, not about Palin. This undermines Palin's legitimacy but the charge engages McCain, not Palin.

Third, point out that the selection of Palin completely undermines McCain's efforts to reach out toward independents. Obama's surrogates (not Obama or Biden) need to mention over and over and over the multiple scandals surrounding her back home. Obama/Biden need to point out that the Palin pick is evidence that McCain, like GWB, is campaigning as a moderate and will govern to the hard right - and we all saw how that turned out.

Obama Campaign, needs to get it out to the media and the people the fact checking of Palin and McCain's statements about Palin.

Things like the Bridge stance, how the Jet didn't sell on Ebay and infact sold for a loss of 500,000 dollars to a private broker. How the Jet was used 58% of the time to take Convicts to Arizona for jail time.

How she is stalling the Trooper investigation (Dick Cheney style). How the "Fiscal Conservative" gave the town a 18 million $ debt. How she is anti-abortion even in case of Rape/Incest.

How she said on tape that the War in Iraq is God's doing, that a 30 billion $ piple is god's wish. Sure, that could energize the Christian Base, but that base is already behind them.

How she doesn't beleive in Global Warming being man-made, which even the McCain campaign beleives in.

How she vetoed funding for Teen Pregnancies as governor, same with Mental Health funding.

And the Media needs to fact check Palin, because her speech and her persona is full of hyperbole and lies. There is no need to talk about her Pregnant Daughter, but if the MSM can't fact check her, they have failed miserably.

Never before has a Politician running for such a high office, lied to the face of the American people and got away with it the way Palin is.

Yep. Stick to economy, concrete change, and enough repetition on national security that there's no opening there. Depend on the obvious contrast between a VP nominee who can hold his own with any journalist in the world and one who has to be kept out of sight.

The next big events are the debates: I hope everyone's getting in lots of practice. I see no harm getting a negative ad or two ready re Palin's lying and wacko views should push really come to shove in October, but right now she has a lot of sympathy and it would look like piling on.

Also, rather than questioning the anti-earmark thing they should turn it to their advantage.

"McCain/Palin want to spend more on tax cuts for the rich, more on handouts for big oil, more on Iraq - but less on roads, bridges, levees, faith-based programs and job-creating research."

Recast their ticket as PALIN/McCain and then run McCain's celeb ads he ran against Obama.

Get Palin to provoke a "back and forth" with Hilary.

IGNORE her - he is running against McCain.

For the next two to three weeks: no attacks. Focus all attention on McCain, who is weak. Try to provoke him into an outburst. Allow the media to continue investigating Palin's past. Any attack on her right now would be thin on facts, and wouldn't stick anyway. Let the Republicans dig their own grave by building her up as much as possible. Don't fall for the trap of attacking her at the height of her popularity. Wait to see if anything comes of this affair investigation and the ethics investigation, and wait for the post-speech polls to settle down to decide the best course.

At four through six weeks, if nothing comes of the investigations and she remains popular, use surrogates to float the idea that she is a female version of G.W.B. in 2000. The comparison is apt -culture warrior, evangelical, inexperienced governor, tied to big oil, personable, no substance, all style, look where that got us, etc. You can't beat her on policy because people don't care about her policies, they care about her character. Don't attack her character, just draw the unfavorable comparison and remind people that this is the party of G.W.B. Keep steady pressure on McCain.

At six through eight weeks, if the GWB comparison has gotten any traction, ratchet it up. If nothing has worked and her favorables are still flying high, tell surrogates to pull out all the stops and attack, attack, attack. Obama and Biden should stay above the fray, only commenting on lines of attack that have proven resonation. Hillary should... well... be herself. Create an indelible impression in the voters' minds of Palin as not a serious person ready for a serious position. She's all pre-written zingers and babies. Coming from Hillary this line of attack isn't as risky, and potentially very damaging.

Attack! Come on. They should attack her record and lack of experience. They should continue to attack McCain as well. They should portray her as a poor decision by a poor opponent. Don't let her off the hook.

If the media can actually be browbeaten into submisssion by the Rovians (she's sequestered from answering any questions?), I guess the blogs will have to do the work, esp. TPM.

As a creationist/ radical pro-lifer/ book burner/ lobbyist / small time corrupt political hack /windfall profits taxer / pork hound / Stevens acolyte / parental hypocrite / possible adulteress / foreign policy nincompoop / Jews for Jesus freak, I can't imagine they'll find anything damaging.

One thing Obama and Biden SHOULD do is emphasize how McCain, Palin, and their surrogates default to playground name-calling on a day-to-day basis. Check out their quotes in the news everyday, including Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis!

It's unbecoming a presidential race, directly contradicts McCain's pretense of a high-minded man of integrity (ahem), and is deliberately employed to keep the focus OFF the issues and the role that McCain has played in the disastrous reign of King George. Obama and Biden need to continuously call them out on this.

I think the DNC ought to start a Palin Press Watch countdown until she grants a major interview to someone other than Fox News or The View (Oh God, I wish Russert was still alive, there's no way they'd try this kind of stunt with him on duty!). There is simply no way she can be allowed to hide from the nat'l press just because McCain is in a fit of pique at his former base.

I do think Obama needs to ignore her, but I think Biden needs to be asking "What does she really think about the war? What does she really know about the economy? Why does she keep lying about the bridge to nowhere? How did she manage to drive her 7000 person town $20 mil into debt in 6 years?" Don't question her on experience, question her knowledge & competence. Make light of the fact that the McCain camp now apparently has to hide her in a cave for a month to learn foreign policy "at the foot of the master" (somebody just HAS to run with that quote, I don't care who does it).

I agree that sending Hillary after her to attack would kick-start a distracting "catfight" narrative. It would also inflame the culture war/abortion element of the debate, not likely something Obama is too comfortable focusing on in the nat'l media (targeted ads are another matter - the numbers are simply on the side of the pro-choice candidate). I notice they're sending Hillary straight to Florida - more likely this is about the Jewish vote, not the "working-class whites" media narrative BS. I wouldn't be surprised if their internals all of a sudden show Florida is back in play with a vengeance.

I'd also like to see a much more concerted effort to go after Latino voters (not just GOTV, serious attention & effort). Play nonstop ads on Telemundo & Univision with footage of McCain disavowing his own immigration bill. I think there's a big opening; Latino voters sense the racial resentment that boils just under the surface of the Republican party (especially evident this year, needless to say, no matter what they say about everyone being "God's children"). Also, Palin hails from a state with, um, pretty much all white people, which means she has nobody to vouch for her yet - so I'm guessing generic "minority" voters don't trust her very much at this early date. This presents a big opening for Obama if he can go for it without getting pegged as a "minority candidate" in the nat'l press (not much chance of that if they stay as pissed at McCain as they are right now).

The Obama camp should also start working up some devastating attack ads calling her social views extreme (banning books, no abortion even for rape/incest, teach creationism in schools, legalized aerial hunting of wolves (!), her personal war on polar bears, doesn't believe in global warming, etc etc). It's not time to hit her too hard yet, but practically all of her trademark issues really ought to hurt McCain among his old base, moderates and foreign policy/fiscal conservatives.

Hi Marc,

McCain and Palin failed to offer anything to voters in the way of how their policies would differ from the Bush Administration. In 3 full days of convention, I failed to hear anything that John McCain would do that George Bush hasn't already tried to do. On energy, health care, Iraq, Afghanistan, taxes, infrastructure, education and housing, I heard zero ideas that differ from the Bush agenda (Cue "zero" chants).

How can McCain/Palin claim "change" or "reform" if they offer absolutely nothing different from George Bush? The only things either of them has offered the American people so far this election are ad hominem attacks.

That's the line that I would take if I were Obama.

Another angle: Since Alaska seems in the bag for McCain, does it make sense to point out the rest of rural America that Palin's state is basically the biggest welfare recipient in the country?

Turn the culture war around. Why shouldn't OH and PA and MI resent those lazy Alaskans living off the oil under their feet? Isn't it America's oil too?

Ignore her. She's bright and spunky, but by signing onto the campaign she's slaved herself to the Bush-McCain policies of years past. She can't and won't deviate from that course. So continue to strike at the presidential candidate himself and everything will fall into place.

Five things...

1) Have Obama ignore her.
2) Roll out HRC in Fl and Ohio at least once a week to talk about the economy and choice.
3) Biden- rip McCain a new one all day then go to bed. Wake up repeat.
4) Brace for the fact that she will be better in her first interview than you think.
5) Keep the bloggers and oppo's psuhing and digging. Something will bubble up. And trust that the liberal media is dying to find anything to knock her down. The slightest hind of over up and he rolls out "More of the same..."

Hidden in a lot of discussion about the "Mommy wars" is a lot of real angst from women that the Family Values/ Pro-Life community is all about having babies and nothing about raising kids. That's why many women are criticizing SP for not staying home to raise the new son she has made political hay for carrying, not because of antipathy to working women in general. Note conservative opposition to:

1. Extending childcare subsidies for welfare-to-work single moms

2. Funding courts to collect childcare from delinquent dads

3. Funding "No child left behind"

4. Passing the Family leave act

just to list a few. Obama can do himself good with undecided women emphasizing how Democrats have- and he will- continue an agenda of helping families to raise kids already here while the Republicans have a pathetic record and M/P aren't proposing anything useful beyond school choice. He's in a good position to do it having made parental responsibility part of his campaign speech. An emphasis by him or (particularly women) surrogates on the difficulties parents face and what he offers subtly undermines SP's "family values" appeal without the personal challenge and feeds into a fire already burning.

Keep focusing on McCain. Folks vote for the top of the ticket. After McCain's lackluster speech, for the most part, last night, Obama has an opportunity to keep driving in about the economy and Afghanistan.

Palin is a force to be reckoned with clearly, but let surrogates like Hillary take care of her, along with these percolating scandals regarding the trooper, etc.

Ignore her until she screws up. She will eventually and then pounce on it. Then keep pouncing about that but attack McCain mainly as usual. They will scream sexism over any attack however, so they have to be careful.

I think they are holding back because of the sexism charge. There are already some things emerging about her that do not add up.

I agree with those who say "ignore" with one exception and caveat: her speeches should be fact checked, and all untruths or misrepresentations of the Dem platform and character assassination lies should be immediately dealt with.

And of course, any completely tone deaf bits such as laughing at community organizers (!!) should be incorporated into the campaign.

There is a strong GOP attempt to falsely associate the Obama campaign itself with the viral tornado of speculation (some warranted, others scurrilous) sweeping the nation. This should be immediately, consistently, politely exposed as incorrect.

If Palin continues to stonewall the Troopergate investigation, comparisons to the current Bush administration's disdain for being held to the same standard of law and process as others could also be made.

Everything to do with the personal issues (such as the latest Inquirer allegations) should be avoided utterly.

Of course, this is what the campaign is already doing. To the letter. I don't pretend to be able to out-game Axelrod and Plouffe.

As the many people above have been saying, the Obama campaign worked out immediately, as Ariana Huffington and Al Giordiano and loads of other smarts have been saying, don't feed it, concentrate on McCain and the Obama agenda.

As Sullivan is saying this cynical farce of a campaign will will fall apart all on its own.

thank McCain for closing the Empathy Gap for women.

for the first time ever, there is a loud contingent of GOP'ers crying "sexism!" BHO should point out to Dems that this is something to celebrate and point out to GOP'ers that their newfound embrace of political correctness is what his calls for reducing the Empathy Gap have been all about.

the right likes to slam the PC police, until it is them being assaulted.

Keep asking McCain why he needs a woman to do his fighting for him. That should get the ol' boy's temper up. McCain is pathetic when his temper is up.

By reminding the press that the election is about Obama vs McCain, and the McCain doesn't have anything to offer on pocketbook issues.

I don't think they need a grand strategy. Just start doing the natural legwork and this "phenomenon" will melt back to what she really is... a borderline whack-job millenialist that is only naturally appealing to the religious far-right.

What's the leg work?

Right now I'd just go whole hog on the point that she is a liar (bridge to nowhere). I'd also invite her to clarify the record, if she's allowed to come out and play.

I'd probably save the policy points for later.


Did you guys hear that she killed a puppy? Totally killed the adorable little thing with a giant moose shotgun. There is tons of evidence. I'll just have to ask my assistants to get back to you on exactly how many puppies were brutally slaughtered. Her critics have derided her for puppycide.

Repost on every website possible and make her the candidate of puppy obliteration. Eventually, somone in the MSM will have to ask, "Does Palin support the methodical killing of puppies (cue cutshot to baby pug)" Hey, it works for the bad guys, why can't it work for us?

From the top of the ticket: point out that McCain has acknowledged that years of "experience" are not necessary to be commander-and-chief and that judgement and character are critical components.

From the surrogates: point out areas where her judgement and character make her unsuited for the role as president.

They need to keep an eye on how the Palin narrative is perceived by swing voters. Palin easily wins over the base but how she is perceived by independents will be affected by how the narrative develops. At the moment, she is very much an unknown and it seems (at least to me) that the developing narrative is not positive. I'm not sure how long the "media picking on poor Sarah" will protect her if the campaign continues to let her talk.

The biggest problem with the Palin selection is that she is a huge unknown. The knowledge gap about her personal life is being filled rapidly but her policy positions are very difficult to discern because she has no stated position on just about every issue of national significance. How can Obama/Biden respond to her policy positions when she has never really told anyone what her policy positions are? And so they are left with the alternative of commenting on her character and personal life - which they have wisely decided is not a good place to go.

Obama should stick to the issues, concentrate on McCain and linking McCain to Bush. Biden should go after Palin a little, on issues of readiness and foreign policy. ("She thinks she's ready to be President? She's not even ready to give an interview!") Keep mentioning her viewpoints on abortion, creationism, sex ed, and other policies that will alientate her from moderates and women. Ignore the personal stuff, lay off the kids, and just talk policy. But mostly, issues, issues, issues. The GOP wants to make this election about personality. Don't let them.

Ignore Sarah. 99% of voters don't vote for the VP. It's much more important to hit McCain on issues and push back on Maverick. When Biden gets on stage with Mrs. Palin, you'll see why she was a flash in the proverbial pan.

Ignore her, for the most part. Unless she starts showing that she's really dragging independents to the McCain ticket, I think you operate on the theory that this is a base pick and McCain has made this a base election - then you shore up your Democratic base and focus on attracting moderates.

If Palin starts to show strength here, you hit her on her reform credentials and if McCain and company hit the red button and go nuclear, you drop AIP, creationism, Troopergate, and her anti-Jewish pastor.

Put Biden out there with a Q&A with the media every day they are out there campaigning. Make 'I don't know what Sarah Palin thinks about [Pakistan, job creation, credit markets, inner city violence], you'd have to ask her' a standard element each day. Remind the media every day that they know fuckall about her and are powerless to change that.

But aside from that, basically ignore her. Challenge McCain by name to offer positions on every issue that could by hypocritical against his ticket - reform, birth control, separation of church/state, etc. After all, McCain really doesn't know that much more about Palin than any of us. If Obama/Biden make this a policy debate - particularly one in contrast to Bush policies, then I don't see how McCain/Palin can hold it together.

They ignore her at their own peril, a la Kerry '04.

They need to go after her hard, on her record in Alaska, which ain't so great, it turns out.

They ideally should use women governors to do this whenever possible--Sebelius, Napalitano, Granholm, Gregoire.

Bill Richardson would be effective too, since he comes across as a big ole teddy bear. Plus he's the governor of a state with oil revenue and he gets foreign policy the way few govs do.

But ignoring her is the worst thing they could do.

Also point out that (A) She inherited a town with a balanced budget, (B) She got $27 million in Federal earmarks from her buddy Tes Stevens, (C) She left the town $20 million in debt.

If that doesn't make her look like Bush, I don't know what will.

Senators Obama and Biden need to remind the hard-working people of Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia that they're the ones paying for Sarah Palin's earmarks.

Folks in those states get back roughly what they contribute to the Federal treasury.

But Alaska? For every dollar they put in, they get a $1.84 back. Hedge fund managers would probably like those returns.

Palin says she's a tight fisted reformer. But really, she's part of the long, Alaskan tradition of sucking off the government teat, even though her state is wallowing in oil money.

As Governor, asked just this year for more Federal earmarks per capita than any other governor. Period.

She was for the Bridge to Nowhere. Maybe she said "Thanks but no thanks" in a press release, but she sure as hell kept the money and is building the "Road to Nowhere" without the bridge.

She makes a big deal about cutting proposed spending, but even so, her state budget this year was 10% higher than last year's (thanks to all that oil money).

She's a phony and a fraud when it comes to spending and reform, and voters in the heartland states should be reminded every day, all day, that they're footing the bill. "Sarah Barracuda" has a good grip on their wallets, and gives "welfare queen" a whole new meaning.

I just returned from a trip to the heartland and based on that, suggest:

1. Obama should concentrate on his tax proposals. Many people believe he'll raise taxes. None of the seniors I talked to knew his proposal to eliminate personal income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000. Perked them right up. But, then they asked - what about capital gains taxes.

2. They were excited that Palin praised Hillary and Ferraro. Therefore, I think it would be great if all the fantastic female senators, members of Congress and governors in the Democratic party began talking about how the Obama and the Democrats plan to help women and help with issues most important to women. Flood the airwaves with images of Democratic women talking to women.

3. They want to know why Obama dressed up in "Muslim clothes" (!)

4. They want to know about any decisions Obama has made.

I think "Martin at 5:10 pm" has it about right...

It is tempting to ignore her, and I think that should be the overall approach, but I do also agree that every day there should be a low-key, daily brow-beating (of her lack of experience, the on-going troopergate controversy, funding for the bridge to nowhere, whether she will be endorsing Senator Stevens, etc. etc.); it could be a Biden talking point, to be worked into that day's message somehow (as Martin suggests: "today Pakistan's government did X. while we don't know what Gov. Palin thinks about this, Obama/Biden would do Z in response"), or there could just be a concerted effort to plant the seed into reporters' heads that they have no access to the potential VP of the US while the American people and reporters have been free to ask questions and have those questions answered by the Obama/Biden campaign for more than a year (in Obama's case).

In short, off-the-cuff, but consistent, jabs.

Ignore it. They're still ahead in the polls.

Attack McCain and ignore Palin
McCain= MORE WARS/ More Foreclosures/Higher Gas Prices/Fewer Jobs /More Bush Mistakes

Argue that the possibility of turning over the leadership of the most powerful country in the world to someone who was not vetted COMPLETELY is reckless abandonment of DUTY to America and the world.

Do NOT bring up the affair.

Attack her for being disingenuous on the bridge to nowhere, investigate if she really left her town in debt, find an elegant way to showcase her opposition to sex education and whatnot. But attack her personal life and she gets yet another chance to show how much she has in common with the average American.

In a weird twist, teen pregnancy and an affair help to dilute (or at least distract from) the idea that her social conservative beliefs are outside the mainstream.

Focus on jobs. Point out that by spending $15 billion per year on green technology, Obama will create jobs for scientists, engineers and Silicon Valley venture capitalists like Al Gore, while McCain/Palin, by allowing offshore drilling, will just create six figure jobs for working class high school grads. Americans don't want high-paying blue collar jobs like the one Todd Palin worked on the North Slope. They want more money for college so they can be Starbucks baristas.

Today's bright shiny object.
Tomorrow's trash.

Ignore her. If you engage her, you lend her false credibilty.

I don't care how much Joe Lieberman and his goons try to prep her, you can only put so much lipstick on the pig. She will show what she is long before the Oct. 2 debate.

Biden will eat her alive.

Obama should come at Palin in the following roundabout way:

1) Challenge McCain's credentials as a "maverick reformer" by running down the Bush Administration's position on the substantive issues, one after another, and challenging McCain to substantially differ from the GOP base on any one of them.
a) If McCain identifies significant differences with his base, they'll start worrying again that he really *is* a maverick and his problems with them will return. Palin neutralized.

2) If McCain does *not* identify significant differences, then Obama can relentlessly hammer him as a more of the same with a different label.

3) That opens the door to dismissing Palin as "the same old Republican politics of attack." Her legitimacy vanishes when McCain's does.

The key thing here is: cede the Republican base, and fight like hell for those in the middle. Her supporters will give two craps about policy, and attacks therefore must be upon her still forming public image. I agree that Obama should largely ignore her, but he cannot ignore her entirely.


  1. Do not fall into the experience trap. Palin is the anti-Hillary. Hillary comes from the desexualized pantsuit "career woman" all-business side, while Palin represents the conservative Christian stay-at-home mom who just got fed up with the PTA. It's really a form of anti-feminism because it's not about career at all. This is politics as hobby, not as job. She is a vacuum of qualification and her appeal has nothing to do with credentials; it has everything to do with identity politics. Democratic feminists need to be careful in contrasting themselves with her not to make it look like a careerist vs mom thing.
  2. Rather than experience, go after knowledge and worldview. She is not going to do any interviews, so the Obama campaign and surrogates need to demand it over and over and over no matter what; in doing so, they have to make sure not to set a low bar that is easy to cross or make it sound like she is stupid, just unprepared. She will be able to prep for debates, so out of the blue questions are key.
  3. Hammer home the "heartbeat away" angle because it not only reflects on her but continually brings up McCain's age in an indirect way.
  4. Discretely press on mom image. This is landmine territory, but it must be done by someone. That "perfect mom" image has some cracks in it already and the Democrats need to make wedges out of them. The reason the campaign is so upset about these questions is NOT because it's personal (she trots those kids out like ponies), it's because it is HER greatest strength and the source of her entire appeal. Once McCain drug Levi out for his MPLS landing/photo-shoot, it should have been clear to anyone. However, Democrats need to do it in the context of the media looking hard into these things. For example, Track Palin was supposedly born on April 20, 1989, only 33 weeks after the Palin's reportedly eloped on August 29, 1988. If true, and given her daughter's situation, this is a story. If she is going to make her mom thing the central tenet of her entire campaign, it is fair game.
  5. Work on new image as opportunist who changes tune with the wind. This year it's reform, before it was Christianist stuff. She was a pageant queen and a sportscaster; clearly she always wanted to be famous. The "celebrity" angle is touchy b/c of previous ads, but maybe that is exactly the reason to do it.
  6. Muddy reformist image, make her look dishonest. This is very fair game and Obama should be making sure, through ads, that everyone out there knows she's a liar about earmarks. One of the greatest quotes about her is the "she can look you in the eye and tell you black is white" lines from the Anchorage Daily News. Use this to paint her as a opportunist. This should be the public Obama attack because it cuts to policy. This ties in with the opportunist image as well.
  7. Exploit Pentecostal roots. Her worldview is very right wing and combined with the secessionist stuff can make her look quite frightening. Her God-as-military-planner stuff is scary, the book-banning is scary, the God's-pipeline stuff is scary. This is an appeal to the base, and must be made clear to independents and moderates.
  8. Exploit overplay of community organizer hand. Her comment and that of others at RNC was a huge opening. Obama needs to bring out the religious context of his work, and how it was through that work that he got his life's calling. This is a way to remind everyone of her smug tone at the same time siding himself w/ the compassion of community service. The Republicans have ceded this territory and it is very ripe for exploitation in the middle in a much more forceful way now.

They should say: Palin is worse even than Bush. All the qualities of George W Bush that the American people are dissatisfied with are exaggerated in Gov. Palin: scandal, a disregard for the law, slashing half-true attacks, far-right social beliefs, religious overtones, ignorance and inexperience, cockiness, spending increases, personal vendetta, sarcasm, and mean-spiritedness. With 85% wrong track and sub-Nixon approval ratings, those traits will turn off mainstream voters on both intellectual and emotional levels.

With firecrackers and rotten eggs.

I think the Obama campaign all ready has this thing figured out. They already compiled their opp research. They only told their surrogates to push back on policy, hands off on teen pregnancy and remind everyone of Eagleton. So they must of hit pay dirt in their research and are being ultra laid back, calm and nice to Palin. Even Robert Gibbs was extremely nice to Nicole Roberts and she was very testy especially about Palin and press inquires. Usually Gibbs/Wallace debate hard against each other.


I think Obama is just quietly watching the circus implode.

Let Palin absorb the news while his campaign puts mich, penn, vir and Col in his column.

Obama should ask her to make a trip and speak in Berlin just so she can equal him on the foreign policy creds.

The campaign needs to settle on a consistent line of attack against her. The response so far has been all over the place and has yet to really place a dent in her appeal to independents and Clinton voters. There are two themes that female surrogates (and Clinton herself) should be dispatched to emphasize to the media:

a. Palin has shown a pattern of abusing her power: McCain tried to use the pick to refurbish his reform credentials, and look like a credible "change" candidate. The Obama campaign needs to highlight Palin's record of abusing power (banning books, firing police officer, troopergate) to show she's just another corrupt Republican. She might be a Washington outsider, but she has already demonstrated a tendency to act like Republicans in Washington.

b. She is out of the mainstream: The American public doesn't know about her opposition to abortion in case of rape or incest, her opposition to sex education, or her denial of global warming. Her views on these hot button issues are very unpopular. Evangelicals love her; independents should know why.

Democrats need to go on the offensive and not count on the media to do their job for them. The McCain and Clinton campaigns have been complaining about pro-Obama coverage for almost two years now, and there is evidence the press is looking to lighten up on Palin. She represents the whole ballgame for McCain, because his only path to victory is to pick off disaffected Clinton voters and appeal to indies as a reformer. Obama will probably still win if he just waits for her media-boomlet to play itself out, but there is no reason to leave open that possiblity. He should know from experience: waiting for the media-boomlet to tapper off is what Hillary did to him.

Definitely a fan of the countdown idea: "# of days since Palin promised to meet with Trooper-gate prosecutor, hasn't", and "# of days since Palin was named VP pick and hasn't taken media questions/interviews"

Ignore, mostly. But insofar as you're forced to deal with it...

1. Palin vs. Palin: hammer the flip-flopping and half-truths. She was for the bridge before she was against it; she's an "advocate for special needs" who slashed funding for kids with special needs; she didn't really sell the jet on eBay; she gave a vicious partisan speech the night before McCain called for us to rise above party; etc. This kind of folksy stuff is a huge part of her appeal - make it just crystal clear that she's brazenly, repeatedly lying.

2. Lump her in with McCain and attack their credibility as reformers. As in, so lemme understand this: we have a huge mess in Washington, and a huge mess in Alaska, caused by Republicans, and to clean this up, we should...get a couple of Republicans in here? One of whom is under investigation, and the other of whom was part of the Keating Five? No - the problem is the entire governing philosophy. These two are, yes, more of the same.

2.5 Speaking of which, for GOD'S sake bring up Troopergate, and her lack of cooperation. If she's true to form, she won't be able to comment on an ongoing investigation.

3. Stick to issues, mostly in the broadest sense of "economy" or "Obama continues to be right on Iraq" or whatever; don't get too granular. Make them fight on hostile territory. Palin appeal right now has nothing to do with issues - it's all surface and personality. And since she's going to flee from tough interviews prior to the election, there won't be enough opportunity for that to fade. Make it a liability for them; make the contrast clear.

4. Only mention experience by way of response. As in, respond to "Obama isn't ready to lead..." with, "if Sen. McCain really believed that, you would have gotten a VP with long experience. He's just another career Washington politician saying things he doesn't mean to try and avoid talking about what's important." Deflect, rather than attack.

It would suffice for me to have Palin simply submit to the same level of open press scrutiny and interviews (across the media spectrum) as have Obama and the rest of the Democratic nominees. That's simply what I would have Obama ask for.

They should use the Palin pick in a concerted effort to go after McCain's image as a maverick and turn it into an image as a gambler who will recklessly roll the dice with America's future.

I think she's fair game, but you have to be extremely surgical about how you go about it. No side issues, no rumors, no frivolous scandals. Go after the inconsistencies in her stories (eBay, Bridge to Nowhere) and her lack of curiosity about things like the war, the surge.

She is Exhibit A of McCain's poor judgment. Hang her around his neck like you've done with Bush.

ezr writes: "What amazes me is that (1) Obama didn't tap HRC for the ticket and (2) the campaign was so stunned that McCain would pick a woman. It seemed entirely predictable that McCain would do that when Obama chose Biden. It stuns me that Obama's people didn't even consider the possibility."

How exactly do you know what they considered? And what do you think they would have done differently even if you're right?

This reputation/image as a reformer/model-for-the-modern woman needs to be strangled in the cradle. The family should be off limits, but her less-than-stellar record and wingnut positions should be pointed out and even stressed at every opportunity. The more outlandish and unprepared for primetime that she looks, the more McCain's judgment will be called into question.

She also needs to hammered for being scared to talk to press and/or actual voters. One of those cheesy countdown clocks that the GOPers are so fond of would do nicely. Let's see what she has to say about SCHIP, equal pay, the deficit, Pakistan, etc. etc.

In any case, the apex of her popularity and influence on the electorate was this past week. From here on out she should fade from the public eye, except for the debate.

Correct all the lies she tells about herself, McCain, or Obama. Make sure people know how extreme she is on abortion. Otherwise ignore her and focus on how McCain would be a 3rd Bush term and Obama's plans to fix the economy and get us out of Iraq.

How to respond?

Just keep asking the same question you asked last night, Marc:

So what is John McCain going to do that differs from GWB again?

ezr: name one person in the country thought Sarah Palin would be McCain's choice as veep.
the Obama campaign will reinforce the insult McCain has flung in the face of the American electorate with his choice fo Palin, watch as she self-destructs, and hammer McCain.

Obama should focus on John McCain, and continue ignoring Palin. The cheers in St. Paul were for Palin, not McCain. The larger crowds he now enjoys are for Palin, not McCain. The increase in donations he has enjoyed recently are for Palin, not McCain.

On a related note, John McCain claims that he can bring change to Washington. But, how will John McCain be able to bring change to Washington when, as the GOP nominee, he was not permitted to even pick his own running mate? It is widely reported that he wanted Joe Lieberman, pro-choice, pro-Iraq war former Democrat from Connecticut. However, the fundamentalist wing of the Republican party would not allow that. Hence Palin, a governor with deep connections to the culture of lobbyists in Alaska. For instance, the lobbyist she hired when she was mayor of Wasilla, pop 7000 at the time, was an associate of convicted GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Is it really credible that, had McCain been able to act on his own free will, to be his own man, that he, the self-styled scourge of pork, would pick an Abramoff client?

Right now, John McCain is not is own man .... he is the unwilling puppet of the fundamentalist wing of the GOP, and their representative, Sarah Palin. The question is, what, if anything, will John McCain do to remind people that HE is the one running for President? Indeed, what CAN he do? If he becomes President, how will he be able to run things when his VP is more popular with his own party than he is? He will be a lame duck even before inauguration.

A presidential candidate has his or her highest level of power at the convention. And yet, John McCain had to bow down and accept a VP nominee not of his choosing. My friends, there is a word for people who are too weak to make their own decisions. That word is "wimp." There is another word, an informal term for a cat, that may also be used. But, this is a family blog, so let's not go there.

Don't acknowledge her existence.

Infact, we should all forget she ever appeared.

Enough is out about her shady past. The media will do their job.

sarah who?

Mike from IL did a great job...

I agree dont even mention Palin, concentrate on McCain and you have to put the age issue in play in an indirect manner. He needs to be shown as out of touch with 21st century americans, just like Palin is thousands of miles away from most americans in Alaska, her mindset is also thousands of miles away from mainsteam America although the folksy yahyah stuff sounds good.

avoid attacking personality. Attack their implied policies. So the question to Palin would be , Do you think abstinence only sex education is effective? If so, explain why. etc etc.

otherwise cede the majority of the Red states... pour all money into Ohio, Michigan, PA, Virginia, Iowa and New Mexico and Missouri--these are states where the economic thing will play. ... , the next tier would be Florida, Nevada, North Dakota and North Carolina.

and finally... "it's the economy, stupid" will work... the economy is getting worse for most people, not better... and it is likely to get worse into 2009. Remind people who controlled the White house for 8 years and the Congress for 6 of the last 8. And who voted with that majority 90% of the time. the 10% chance for change is a good line....

The line:

Palin is going to DC to shut down K street and clean
out the corrupt leadership of the Republican Party.
McCain could go at any time.

The result: Those who take and spread money should be in fear of this neo-Savanrola. Hold back financial support from McCain, he's no friend either. Let them lose, let Obama in and the contracts will just move to the other side of the aisle.

I agree with the "mostly ignore her" consensus, but I think that her attacks should always be addressed in the following way:

"We don't respond to childish attacks. Senator McCain has called for an end to partisan rancor, and yet his choice for Vice-President has done nothing but partake in childish, demeaning attacks while completely ignoring the issues that matter to real Americans."

Childish is key here. It will serve as a reminder that Governor Palin is great at petty attacks but staggeringly unqualified to be President.

Only undermine the reformer stuff. Leave everything else alone. They have to stop this narrative that she is some sort of reformer.

Continue to focus almost exclusively on McCain, but occasionally allude to the fact that he picked her because he ABSOLUTELY NEEDS the evangelical wing of the party to support him and suggest that she's the one with the real power here and he's merely a figurehead (much like the Queen of England). It will make the old man look incredibly weak and will p*ss him off to no end.

How to subtly convey this message is not my forte, but I reckon consulting with the Clintons (they're masters at this) would be a good start.

There's an old Chinese (Buddhist?) saying: "All evil is transitory." And so will be the "career" of Guv'ner Mooseburger: She'll implode, sooner rather than later, under the weight of her own lies, corruption and hypocrisy, and from her own baseless self-righteousness. She's a political meltdown just looking for the right place and time to erupt. Caribou Barbie has an extremely limited shelf life; the expiration date on her career and her fabulous "celebrity" status draws near.

Ignore the vicious, vacuous, dissembling, corrupt woman from Alaska, Team Obama. She'll take HERSELF down.

Expose her lies and half-truths about TrooperGate, that "Bridge to Nowhere" and those pesky "We did well!!!" earmarks through tough, smart, female surrogates like Hillary Clinton.

Do not be dismissive of her accomplishments, but don't directly engage her neo-con nonsense either. Stick to McCain/Bush and don't let American voters forget the stakes of this campaign in terms of how desperate our economy has become.

Also, ask community organizers to be ready on November 5th to shout on TV how it was their grassroots skills and care for others that made Obama's victory possible.

I don't know if ignoring her alone is the best thing, because letting her juice the base allows the conversation to be about small things and not about big things. If it's about small things, Obama loses. If it's about big things, Obama wins.

For the most part ignore it, but find 1 or 2 ways to attack her and hammer at them until she seems like a typical politician. Bridge to Nowhere and Wasilla earmarks will do the trick. Ignore Troopergate and other personal scandals.

I read her popularity is higher than Obama or McCain.

That's worrying for her ... these are two seasoned campaigners who have earned high ratings; the only place she can go is down.

The GOP is actually trying to keep the mystique of the convention speech by hiding her away from the press. I think she'll get found out.

Biden should keep tabs on her; let Obama chase bigger game.

Maybe some attack ads on McCain's decision... the earmarks, the myth of the plane on e-bay, the big-budget, no worries on taxation, free-spending Alaskan state government. But don't go after her alone, go after McCain-Palin. She's suspect and he picked her.

The Democrats need to drive home that this is a vote to end McCain-Palin = Bush-Cheney. Palin is just another representative of a rotten administration.

Ignore her...to a certain extent. Obama got a "gift" this morning with today's crappy economic news...focus on that until Palinmania fades.

- Keep the spotlight on McCain. He has a fragile peace with the hard right thanks to Palin, so pressure him to give details on his new change message. McCain is trying to be all things to all people...force him to go detailed and alienate either his base or the independents. He can't please both, unless I'm seriously misreading the polls.

- If the Palinmania story seems to have legs, start playing a subtle "Where's Sarah?" game. When the press asks Obama about Palin, he should say "Well, like many Americans, I don't really know that much about her. But I'm looking forward to learning more about her ideas and policies when she starts giving interviews". That's a little ham-fisted, but Obama's team could clean it up.

- Don't use Hillary to attack Palin. That would just turn into a distracting "jealous catfight" media narrative. If she's willing, use Hillary on generic women's issues and anti-Republican messages. Give people a contrast with Palin, not a conflict.


That's my advice, but what do I know?

I think that O-B should go after her and McCain on policy issues. Drill the media that Obama has been answering the media's questions for 20 months of this campaign and she will not. Forget the personal stuff. That's for the Enquirer.

Here's the thing - it seems like she just marched onto the stage and said, "Here I am, elect John and me and don't question my qualifications." She's perhaps the one of the most presumptuous (to my thinking) politicians in recent memory. Granted, some of the scrutiny was more than unkind (if not sexist - with, sadly, a little undercurrent of classist nonsense as well), but in the midst of all of that, there were totally legit questions about her. She's an unknown quantity on the national stage, and we're supposed to just accept that she's ready? I think, contrary to false assertions of humility, it's stunningly arrogant for someone with her resume to expect that people will just accept you as a VP candidate. I think that's something that Obama was getting at today in his comments. I think they should continue to questions the presumption of it all - 19 months of a blistering primary and the careful consideration of issues domestic and foreign prepares someone much better for a trip to the White House or the Naval Observatory than governing in what's essentially a vacuum in Alaska.

Ignore her for now. If necessary, ask why she isn't at the top of the GOP ticket, seeing as she has more executive experience than McCain. Okay, maybe that last question doesn't work coming from an Obama supporter, but somebody's got to ask it.

In his debate with her, Biden needs to ask her to justify her stance on not allowing a hypothetical 15 year old rape victim the option of abortion. Just make sure that whatever hypothetical age he asks about is not the same age as one of Palin's daughters.

Stop having core Obama people talk to anyone else in America. Honestly, I realize you all love your candidate. But throwing insane accusations (and even reasonable ones) at those who are weakly leaning Obama or undecided is just crazy. Here's an example of a conversation I had today with a co-worker (I'm a weak Obama supporter):

Me: Isn't the new VP pick something else?

Co-worker: She is the devil. Have you heard about her secret plan to ban all Democrats from the U.S.?

Me: I read she worked with Democrats in the Alaskan legislature when she was elected governor, and much of the negative stories are being pushed by Alaskan Republicans who don't like her.

Co-worker: She's nuts. And what kind of person leaves her downs syndrome baby at home in order to run for president.

Me: I don't think that's fair and it's pretty sexist. I'm going to evaluate the candidates. I still plan on voting for Obama over McCain and Palin because I agree with Obama, but I think she is pretty impressive even if I don't agree.

Co-worker: She is the most inexperienced candidate in the history of the U.S.

Me: Last year when I was supporting Clinton, you told me that didn't matter and that Abe Lincoln had very little major experience. I think she has been gov for 2 years and Obama senator for 4 years. Does something magic happen in year 3 in terms of experience?

Co-worker: You're a racist.

The more weak supporters of Obama listen to these sorts of comments by strong Obama supporters, the less likely they want to vote for him.

John McCain's running mate says she has a lot of experience--and she does:

She has a lot of experience hiring Washington lobbyists;

She has a lot of experience playing Washington games and getting massive Washington earmarks;

She has a lot of experience firing people who won't bend the rules for her;

She has a lot of experience telling lies with a straight face, and pretending she's something she isn't;

John McCain: 4 more years of the last 8.


I don't see how this is a "phenom" after a few days of adoration from the insanely dellusional GOP folks in Minnesota.

People tuned in, sure. But does that make it a "phenom"? It makes it a rubberneck moment.

So for now, it's just surface interest. Show me some poll movement, Marc. Then you can use the shiny adjectives all you want.

Obama should ignore her, except to briefly point out when she lies about his record. Nothing more.

Don't rely on Hillary. Her aides are decribed in the Times today as downplaying how effective she can be courting working class women because she has down-ballot races to campaign for and a pile of debt to retire. No lie -- it's in the Healy-Zeleny piece.

Have Clinton attack her record. She's a great politician, she gives a good speech, she makes fantastic promises, but her record of governing is dubious at best. Dig up all the scandal you can find from her acts as mayor and governor. Go back to school board if you have to. But leave her family completely out of it.

Earlier commenter said "She's perhaps the one of the most presumptuous (to my thinking) politicians in recent memory."

Perhaps, but the other politician with the 'presumptuous'-ness that I can think of is Obama. What a lot of hard-core Obama supporters are feeling now is what I felt in January. Who in the heck is this guy and why does he have the audacity to claim Clinton isn't prepared or that he has more years of experience than her? State legislature? Who cares? Sounds like being mayor of a small town.

One of the reasons I, as a weak Obama supporter (I preferred Clinton and Richardson in the primaries) is enjoying Palin is that she is so similar to Obama in terms of compelling story (just very different issue positions).

What one might think is 'presumptuous', another may call 'audacity.' I think this woman has the audacity to come on the national stage and say "I'm running for vice president." Most Obama people won't realize, but if you read conservative blogs, she's been the dark horse front runner for VP for months. She clearly was pushing behind the scenes to get picked as much as Biden pushed to be on Obama's ticket. I'm voting for Obama, and over the last year I've gotten to know him and realize he isn't really outta 'nowhere,' but that he was a highly ambitious, impressive, and sometimes lucky candidate. Palin strikes me as the same, but she's veep for a candidate I don't agree with.

The more Obama people attack, the more weak Obama people who supported Clinton are thinking 'are any of these supporters realizing how hypocritical they sound?' Just ignore her.

Call her out. Call her bluff. She had the balls to call Obama an empty suit when she was reading a speech written by somebody else. Let's see what she's got, whether she can think on her feet by answering unscripted questions from serious media.

She's a wimp if she doesn't, and America knows it. I find it hard to believe that the McCain campaign thinks we'll stand for this idea of holing her up for the next few weeks, away from scrutiny.

The criticism should focus on the decision, not the person.

In a serious interview, Obama could suggest (in his reflective, calm and thoughtful manner) that that the only way to explain McCain's decision is that he's playing politics with gender, which is as bad as playing politics with race. He could suggest that McCain and the Republicans are throwing fuel on the gender war fire since they obviously don't value a person with such a paucity of experience.

Obama could hint that his is especially troubling given the raggedy state of McCain's neurons and the impending need to use logarithms of his age.(Not in those exact words, of course.)

In short, Obama could argue that McCain's decision is just the Southern Strategy with a dress - peel off angry women instead of angry white dudes. Once again, Republican's are returning to their roots- dividing instead of uniting and that's not the change we need.

I'd love to see that interview.

Remind people how little we know about her, and how little she knows about us.

Obama
Nearly two years of national media scrutiny, 20 debates on national issues, interviews with every major newspaper and political talk show, countless town halls around the country, clear views on all major issues.

Palin
Nada.

Remind voters what a risk she is. She makes Obama feel like an old friend.

Oh, and at the same time let people know that she's the queen of pork. $27 million for a town of 6,700 people? Isn't that what John McCain is always complaining about?

OK, basically ignore her (after all - drip, drip, drip), but....

A. GET YOUR OPPO PEOPLE UP TO AK PRONTO (done). Get quotes, people on record, before they start to close ranks. Find those documents before they hit the shredder. Word is, many dislike her but fear her well-known vindictiveness. These people might just figure that it's in their best interest to get rid of her by sending her to washington.

B. Understand the GOP strategy. They want to milk this thing for as much media exposure as they can, while retaining control. So, she'll hide away for awhile and then come out for some big "appearance", which is analogous to getting your artillery all set up and calibrated (as opposed to a running fire fight). Ideally, GOP wants to replicate the controlled conditions of her convention speech. Don't let them. Don't underestimate the power of the GOP noise machine and its apparatchiks in the AP.

C. Find a way to keep troopergate in the press, in the immediate time frame. Don't count on it damaging her, even though she clearly abused her power and is lying. Ultimately, Palin will wriggle out of this - someone will agree to be a fall guy - but it's creating very negative buzz right now.

D. Also, realize that Palin clearly isn't ready, which is why she's going back to AK to be out of reach of the klieg lights for a while. Good luck with that. In the meantime, switch the subject back to McCain.

E) FUD - fear, uncertainty, doubt (but friendly). The best thing to say about Palin is "I look forward to discussing the issues with her. I heard she has some pretty extreme ideas about Roe v. Wade, executive power, banning books.. but I don't know, I'd like to hear about their economic plan "

F) Have something up your sleeve (not Palin-related) that will suck all of the oxygen out of the room. Wait a couple weeks to reveal it, while the Palin spark dwindles, and do so right before the debates.

Alot of you are suggesting that Obama "use Hillary" or have "Hillary attack Palin."

I think Obama already went against this idea. The VP candidate is the best attack dog available, and he chose Biden. Hillary can't be 'used' as she isn't part of the ticket. I think she'll help out, but the more she's out there, the more Clinton voters will start moving away from Obama (and toward not voting). You see Biden, Palin, and alot of folks will think 'What the hell? Wasn't the reason Obama couldn't run with Clinton was because she'd overshadow him - or that all the bad stuff she said about him would be used again?' That is all moot, and as far as I am concerned she gave a great speech last week and she's paid her dues. It's Biden's responsibility to go after Palin. Plus had Obama simply picked Clinton, McCain never would have picked Palin. He would have gone for some staid choice like Pawlenty and there'd only be 1 history-making ticket. The audacity.

Agree with the general consensus here: ignore it. Giving her attention is beneath the Big Man's dignity. She's enough of a curiosity show that the MSM will do the job of chasing down every strange little thing she's done in the past 10 years, so there's no need to help them along or create any sympathy for her.

Obama hinted at being the Happy Warrior last week, and now he needs to kick it into high gear. Look ahead, stay positive, play to the best instincts of the American people to move forward out of the mess that John McCain helped create. I'd get to the point where you don't even bother mentioning HIM too, and for God's sake, stop doing the bit about honoring him for his service. We all honor those who've served, but McCain's bad luck has gotten enough attention from all of us, and what happened 40 years ago has no relevance for what's going to happen in the upcoming few years.

Don't let the hype from this week cause anyone to do anything stupid; Palin energized the base, but the friggin base is an intense group of whack jobs who'd welcome book burning as long as they got to determine which books got torched. They're most prominent in states that no Dem will win anyway, so no harm, no foul. Focus on the ECONOMY and on the FUTURE, and this race won't be as close in November as it looks now.

Also:

Find some compelling sound-bite way to portray McCain as a high-stakes gambler.

He has ruled on playing the fear card--the only powerful antidote to the Obama optimism card.

Cut away at his ownership of this issue.

He needs to put Hillary and Joe on her, and she owes him an apology for calling him "Sambo" that's absolutely appalling.

Hillary can take on her record and destroy her, she know's how to do it but was hesitant with Obama in the primaries... It can't hurt her now and she should tear into her like a pit bull with lipstick!

Above commenter said "In short, Obama could argue that McCain's decision is just the Southern Strategy with a dress - peel off angry women instead of angry white dudes. Once again, Republican's are returning to their roots- dividing instead of uniting and that's not the change we need."

This is somewhat correct, but not entirely. The southern strategy was outright racist, with the GOP dividing the Democratic coalition threw negative scare tactics (Willie Horton, crime, in earlier eras talking about 'public safety' and race explicitly). Thus far, we haven't seen much of these racially divisive politics (yet, though I imagine it may come).

The Palin pick is actually a positive wedge, and not a negative wedge like southern strategy was. The Republicans are saying "we can be historic too" in the hopes of pulling over some downmarket Dems and independents and possibly independent white women away from the Dems. This divides, but it isn't divisive. It's actually pretty nice for McCain-Palin to be a positive wedge (promoting women to major national office) instead of something that could have been much nastier like the '88 campaign.

The fact the Palin pick is uplifting to some women in the middle and to the right of the ideological spectrum is why the Dems are having such a difficult time figuring out how to handle here. The Dems and Obama were ready for the old-style racially divisive wedge politics we've seen in many elections, but McCain went and had the audacity to drive a wedge between strong and weak Democrats by choosing Palin, and making history.

Main focus should clearly be on McCain.

Criticize the obvious lack of proper vetting, but don't spend too much time attacking her directly. Say she's an obviously political choice and won't help fix the economy or healthcare.

When going after Palin directly, us a "more of the same" theme: pork, unethical firings, loyalty tests, unfamiliarity with truth & coverups.

PLEASE add to daily talking points for Obama, Biden and all surrogates -- PRESERVING SOCIAL SECURITY. John McCain wants to privatize it. The Luntz Focus Groups have proved that this is a real concern for a large swath of Americans, but the focus groups are also saying that no one is addressing it. This is an opening for Obama.

OBAMA NEEDS TO OWN SOCIAL SECURITY. McCain wants to privatize it This must be added to Obama's daily talking points for Obama, Biden and all surrogates. And it needs to say it every day when the laundry list is put out there -- economy, jobs, healthcare, social security.

PLEASE get this into the Obama bloodstream!

Obama NEEDS to OWN CHANGE. Own the FUTURE. OWN the ECONOMY. OWN SOCIAL SECURITY restoration, not privatization. OWN HEALTHCARE. OWN ABORTION RIGHTS. OWN JUDGMENT and TEMPERAMENT. John McCain is impulsive and unpredictable. Sarah Palin is a young Dick Cheney in a skirt. I do not want someone with views that extreme and far right having the authority to break tie votes in the Senate. McCain put himself first in this decision, not his country. There is a real opening for Obama to go after undecideds who are scared s**tless about losing social security. Just watch the St. Paul Luntz Focus Group.

WHY isn't Obama talking about PROTECTING SOCIAL SECURITY and calling it out specifically, in addition to his economic policies? He needs to own the issue of SOCIAL SECURITY. All candidates are silent on it. John McCain wants to privatize it. This is an issue that has great resonance with swing voters and independents. I don't get it!

I disagree with those who say she should be ignored. Obama should not directly compare himself to her, but surrogates should be attacking her nonstop. Ignoring Palin would be like ignoring the Swift-Boaters. Bad, bad idea.

Obama's campaign needs to define her. She is the queen of pork, getting $27 million for her small town and supporting the bridge to nowhere. She is under two separate ethics investigations. And most importantly, she has never expressed any interest in or knowledge of national issues.

They MUST keep the pressure on Palin. Right now she is going through a crash course on talking points to see if she can muddle through the oral exams without anyone realizing how superficial she is. Don't let her get comfortable. Keep her on the defensive so that she does not have time to create a mask for herself. Expose her.

The more Americans realize what a terrible pick Palin was, the worse McCain looks.

Just ignore her. The cost/benefit is this.

Probably most people find her a pleasant curiosoty for right now. But the truth is that people vote for the top of the ticket. Attacking her simply elevates her. She will come undone in due time.

Why we are discussing this is beyond me. If anyone knows how to handle a strong female opponent with a lot of baggage, it is Barack Obama. His whole campaign has been engaged in this weird gender war.

Stop allowing McCain-worshiping reporters like you to act as if she actually is a phenom? She's not moving the polls.

Have Joe Biden deal with her in the VP debate.

Oh, they're already going to do that. Never mind.

Better question: how should the McCain campaign respond to the Palin phenomenon? Their base is convinced she's the second coming and the most skilled politician in a generation. How will they deal with the campaign's reported decision to sequester her in Alaska and hide her from the media "until she's ready." They think she's ready now.

Seriously, it's only been a week since the world met Sarah Palin, and it was probably her easiest week of the campaign. She only had to deliver one carefully choreographed speech to a massively sympathetic audience. Now come the interview requests, stump gaffes, a debate and a continuing ethics investigation. It's all downhill from here for Palin.

Talk about the economy.

Remind voters how close McCain's policy stands are to those of President Bush.

Spend as much time criticizing Palin as the McCain camp is spending criticizing Joe Biden.

respond? I say keep it low profile, ignore her and go after mcSame.
Palin is a curiosity right now. For the press it is a new story and drama. Plus, they have someone with as many scandals as the Clintons, who they are missing because they are on to their own lives again and the press loved having them for the conflict and drama.
Palin seems to have more to start with then the Clintons did in 92. The press is salivating and that is what is driving the so called popularity.
Most people were curious about her but, that is all. Most found her offensive.
I am still looking for someone who liked Palin.
Her ratings were due to 2 months before the election and this no name was on the ticket for republicans. of course they would watch to find out who she was, why she was even there and what her positions are on the issues that matter to them.
She disappointed and annoyed.
So, the curiosity for the people is there but, they are not too thrilled with her.
I'd say let the press have their swoon and find they were taken on a ride just like with Bush.
A press in love with novelity and they are holding the bag.
Obama knows this.
He is probably gonna let it ride and see if the press's crush will effect his numbers much or seriously.
I'd do a wait and see and let her have enough rope to hang herself.

The Palin pick seems cynical when it's cast as an attempt to get Clinton supporters. It seems smart(er) when it's cast as an attempt to relive the culture wars vs. Obama and the elites.

So, have your surrogates frame it as being all about an attempt to get the Clinton women, and whether it will succeed. (It won't.) The media want to ask this question anyway.

Don't allow it to be framed as rural America vs. the coastal elites.

First off, always refer to Palin as McCain's VP nominee or Gov. Palin. Take gender out of the verbal or written conversation, that way it doesnt sound sexist to the sensitive ear.

Second, play up the fact that McCain only met her once before he selected her. Is that appropriate? How can you determine someone is qualified, both mentally and philosophically, after only 1 meeting? I think this plays up the gimmick component of the pick, which doesnt play well with moderate women or independents. Maybe a line like "John McCain talks about putting country first, but how can you put country first if you pick your VP after only meeting them once?" This line of attack is also powerful when you consider that fact that she has no national security or foreign policy experience and has no experience with heads of state. Is that what we need with a 72 year old POTUS and a two front war? Female senators, like McCaskill and Clinton can discuss the foreign policy and national security risks associated with her.

Third, use female surrogates to pound home her flip-flops on issues. The Bridge to Nowhere, earmarks, raising taxes, etc. Stay away from the family completely, let the media handle that, its weird enough on its own.

Fourth, have women governors and senators attack Palin's record. Primarily use Sebelius, Napolitano, and Granholm to go after Palin on her record as Gov. In small markets have female Mayor's and councilmembers talk about how important and honorable Gov. Palins work on the municipal level is but not anything close to the experience you need to serve as VP, let alone possibly POTUS. Recently, I asked my friend if a female councilmember in Los Angeles we both know would be qualified to serve as VP in say 4 years. I think this puts the pick more in perspective if its coming from that same level.

The biggest mistake the campaign can make is to completely ignore her. Yes, Obama should ignore her, he's not running against her, at least not technically speaking. But the campaign needs to respond to her and her record and not let the idea sink in that she is some reformer with an indisputable reform record.

Put Brad Hanson infront of a TV Camera and ask him a very simple question.

Obama should respond by raising questions, especially foreign policy questions. "How does Governor Palin think the USA should respond to a resurgent Russia? Does she think the USA should respect the Iraqi demand for a timetable to withdraw US troops?"

Etc., etc. The point of the questions is (a) to call attention to the fact that we know nothing about Ms. Palin's policy positions; (b) to force the media to put those questions to Palin (and force McCain to make Palin available to the media); and (c) to put Palin in a position where she will make a rookie mistake.

Remind voters that she was for the bridge to no where before she was against it and that she kept the money! So much for being against earmarks. As a woman with children, the pro-choice issue is huge for me. I would think moderate woman would want to know that she is super conservative on that and other issues that are the darling of the conservative movement. Don't even talk about her kids, just the anti abortion, 3 Supreme Court Justices angle. That is a scary thought. I just hope voters aren't as dumb as the Republicans think we are. I mean hiding her out in Alaska and away from the media? Are they kidding? Is this a joke? She is trying to be VP for crying out loud.

1) Do research and focus group testing on how to effectively convey the message that Palin's not ready to be a heartbeat away from presidency.

2) build a targeted ad campaign in swing states where the "not ready" message is likely to be well received (based on focus testing).

3) Wait until October 31 or even early in November and if you need to, pull the ripcord on the "not ready" ad campaign.

That's it. The only thing that matters to voters about a VP pick is whether they could envision them taking over as president.

I agree with those that have said that Obama should let the surrogates take her on. He should never be bothered even mentioning her name (which btw both Obama and Biden have been doing very well )and they both should treat her as a non-entity.

However, what should be done by both the surrogates and us "stupid ground organizers" is to continually push the mainstream media into forcing her out of hiding and into an opened situation where she will ultimately put her own big fat snowshoe in her own big fat pit bull lipsticked mouth.

Quick follow-up...

Use Hillary Clinton like crazy, as they're doing already. Again, you want the story to be, "Can she get those Clinton woman voters?" You want that to be the story because (A) She won't get them, and (B) As long as that's the focus, you're reminded that the pick is "gimicky."

The point of sending Clinton and other Dem women out there isn't to get the woman vote. You've got it. The point is to control the narrative, to make that THE question about Palin. That crowds out other potential Palin narratives, which would work better for Republicans.

ignore her. people don't vote for the VP. attack her and you risk coming across and attacking women.

Some have suggested a number of attacks, like play up the fact her pick was done quickly and that McCain only met her once.

But is this also true for Obama and Biden? Yes they were in 23 debates together, but they don't really 'talk' in those debates. How many times did Obama meet with Biden when considering his pick? Not much. Was Biden sent to Georgia to look more vice presidential? Yes. Be careful. Alot of the stuff people claim is a problem for Palin actually applies to Obama's judgement as well. The reporting suggests Obama really wanted to go with Kaine, but in the last few days before choosing VP went with Biden instead. How is this much different than the Lieberman v. Palin pick.

Also, I don't want Clinton out there on the hustings. The Obama supporters may think so, but it is not the role of Democratic women senators to go and attack GOP women. It is the role of Democratic women senators to first represent their states (and Clinton does have some tending to do after the long primary) and attend roll calls. Then, she along with every other female or male senator, can be asked to campaign across the country on behalf of Obama and against McCain. But Clinton should not be 'fighting' Palin. They're not even comparable. If she was VP pick, it'd be another matter.

Previous commenter said "I don't want Clinton out there on the hustings. The Obama supporters may think so, but it is not the role of Democratic women senators to go and attack GOP women. It is the role of Democratic women senators to first represent their states....If she was VP pick, it'd be another matter."

This is spot on. Having Clinton do a few events is a good idea, but she is done with presidential politicking this year. Having her play-act the role of veep is demeaning to both her and to Biden. If you interview for a job and don't get it, you don't go ahead and do the job anyway. Obama picked Biden for VP, which in a campaign involves attacking the opposing VP candidate. Clinton shouldn't get anywhere near this. Obama didn't want her as VP, and thus she needs to be my U.S. senator, not some surrogate VP because Biden can't do the job himself.

So I read somewhere today that Hillary will be campaigning for Obama, but will not be attacking Palin. This seems like the perfect combo for me.

Let the press do its job. Go after McCain for offering 4 more years of Republican rule and for having no apparent policy proposals to deal with the economy, other than continuing what Bush has been doing for 8 years.

Get Hillary out there to spread the word that this woman is mainly substanceless, and that what substance she does have is in direct conflict with all that is reasonable. Also, just as she refused to even utter Obama's name, Obama should ignore her completely and let proxies (like Hillary and Biden) deal with her snarky, presumptuous, and disrespectful jibber jabber. I think the reaction should be, "We don't even take her seriously."

"But is this also true for Obama and Biden? Yes they were in 23 debates together, but they don't really 'talk' in those debates."

They're both Democrats in the Senate. That's a club of 50 people. They know each other quite well, as do Clinton and Obama.

The Republicans have found their Obama, their "Messiah," and she is a woman. They have been ridiculing the Obama movement. Now they are pouring hope and belief into the empty vessel of Sarah Palin, the great Conservative savior whom many are dubbing the female encarnation of Ronald Reagan. She embodies every argument that Republicans have been throwing at Barack Obama for the last year.

For me, it is the issues. Barack Obama best supports my issues and has the best chance of getting the country back on the right track. Sarah Palin is George Bush with breasts. More of the same.

Ignoring her for now probably makes the most sense. To me, the more interesting question is how best to position Biden at the debate. I think that will be the trickiest issue. I don't expect her to do poorly at the debates as in saying something really stupid. I suspect she will be completely scripted to just turn the question to a campaign talking point. It won't be a debate, it will be alternating commercials.

If you saw Biden today in PA when he got a standing ovation for giving Palin and McCain hell then you would know they know what they are doing.

There can't be a cultural war or personality war if one side isn't feeding into it. Palin is baiting Obama with personal attacks. But she doesn't have the recognition or standing for people to believe her toxic waste. If Obama engages with her on her level. He increases her stature like she belongs.

If you noticed he rarely mentions her by name or title. And asked about her, he just said she has a compelling story. Very neutral. Maybe it was complimentary maybe not. Watching an accident is a compelling story. And I was wondering if he was talking about her hockey mom, mother of five story or all the scandals surrounding her.

If you listen carefully to Obama, he tells all. But in his own style and language. He is sort of like Greenspan except he uses common english.

What Obama needs to do is concentrate on ceiling the deal with Hillary voters. Hillary can testify for him but only Obama and Biden can close the sale.

And when people are trying to figure out their basic needs, food and housing they are less likely to care about cultural issues. When push comes to shove a drowning man doesn't care what the color of the hands that saved him.

Focus on the policy contrasts. Get Hillary out there for Obama. Point out the shrillness (this isn't sexist, I though Guiliani was shrill as well) and the sarcasm of the GOP's campaign strategy for Palin. Voters are turned off by this. GET AN AD OUT THERE w/ Palin saying she doesn't know what the VP does, and that she hopes we have an exit strategy for Iraq, etc.
But above all, don't let Palin distract from the focus on McCain.
Make clear the difference between the campaign and the press. The press is hounding irrelevant stories like the Bristol Palin thing. The GOP will try their hardest to conflate the press and the Dems. I know you don't always like criticism of the press Marc, but it is unprofessional these days.

MoeLarryandJesus (hope I got that right), some of my partner's staff work for Obama's campaign too. I'm pretty confident in saying Obama's oppo and strategy were targeted toward the belief that Romney or Pawlenty would be McCain's pick. McCain isn't as stupid as we Democrats wish he was. He knew the polls showing a tight race were an artifact and that the race was Obama's to lose. His only chance was to go for a game-changing running mate. When Obama left the door open by passing over HRC, it seemed clear that McCain would take that opening. He couldn't afford not to. I support Obama, but I think he's overconfident.

Miande, Palin's name surfaced on and off from the time that McCain wrapped up the nomination. Young conservatives have had a strong "Draft Palin" movement online. Chris Cillizza, WaPo's "The Fix" columnist, had her in his top five a couple of times but missed her at the end. I even won some bucks in a running mate pool by betting on Palin! The problem, really, is that we as Democrats underestimate McCain at almost every turn. He's a highly intuitive person who goes with his gut, and you can see how Palin appeals to him. And you can see how, once Obama picked Biden, the die was cast.

Moe et al, you ask what I think Obama should have done differently. I think he should have gone with HRC and made it work. Now that the tickets are set, the worst thing he can do is get dragged into a tangle with the vice presidential candidate on the other ticket. He needs to stay above the fray. He needs to somehow maneuver the contest back to being a referendum on George W. Bush and make strong policy contrasts with McCain. And Biden is going to need some coaching to avoid putting his foot in his mouth!

I disagree that they should ignore her. I think they need to come out clear by fact-checking her statements: the bridge to nowhere lie has been repeated too much. Why do politicians get away with this lying???!! If we don't have the basic standard of truth then we are in Orwell territory.

Don't ignore her. That looks like fear. Be tough but impersonal. For instance, she cut funding for special-needs children, but instead of using that loaded phrase, "programs for women and children" is non-confrontational but still devastating:

"We believe that it does a disservice to any candidate if we do not take their record seriously enough to examine it thoroughly. So let's take a look at Governor Palin's record:

She says she is a fiscal conservative---but when she was Mayor of Wasilla, the town went from no debt to 22 million in debt. During her tenure, Wasilla hired a town administrator, at a time when the town had 6,000 residents. We'd like to know how many executive decisions Mayor Palin made and how many the administrator made.

(Being a town administrator is sort of like being Sarah Palin---except you make actual decisions)

She raised taxes, including putting a tax on food.

She says she is a reformer---but she hired a lobbyist to go after 27 million (or however much it was) in earmarks for a town of 5,000 people. And still put the town into debt. As Governor, she was cited by John McCain for 3 different pork-barrel projects.

She says she told the government no thank you to the Bridge to Nowhere--- but she did everything she could to get the bridge built using US taxpayer money until the bridge became notorious, then reversed herself. She also attempted to build a road to Nowhere.

She said she put her predecessor's plane on Ebay, but didn't mention that it didn't sell. It was sold using a broker, at a loss of half a miilion dollars.

She said she wanted an open, transparent administration, but she has refused to testify in the Troopergate investigation. As Mayor, she issued a directive that staff not talk to the press. Why the secrecy? Haven't we had enough secrecy?

Governor Palin has slashed programs for women and children,including Covenant House.

We believe Governor Palin's record speaks for itself."


This is my long answer. My short answer is: Different messenger, same old message. Sarah Palin's policies are no different than George W. Bush.

What is Palin's greatest strength? Coming across like a white knight who will clean up Washington.

For that reason I think if and when they go after her, it should be to paint her as corrupt.

The Obama campaign has it right to mostly ignore her. She's a dangerously tempting distraction, but ultimately voters, outside a fraction of the GOP base, don't care about the running mates in their voting decisions. They chose between Bush and Kerry, not Bush-Cheney and Kerry-Edwards. And they'll choose between Obama and McCain, disregarding Biden and Palin. This reality will be clear in a few weeks if not sooner, when the running mate excitement dies down and the tops of each ticket dominate the news again.

The Obama campaign has done a good job all along in long-term planning, and ignoring Palin now is yet another example of that.

I'd go after McCain and Palin over one simple subject:

Never in American history have we lowered taxes in the middle of a war.

If McCain truly believes as he says often that we are locked in the "transcendental struggle of the 21st century," then why is he so willing to place the bill at the hands of our children and grandchildren, and not instead ask Americans to roll up their sleeves and sacrifice a bit?

It's pretty obvious that he is not, in fact, putting his country first. Instead, he's allowed the anti-tax demagogues like Grover Norquist hijack his agenda.

Once upon a time I think McCain would've recognized this--not anymore.

Regarding "using" Clinton to "attack" Palin, I think first that Obama didn't choose Clinton as VP because he thought it would not be the right governing choice given the murkiness around Bill Clinton (once a president, always a president). I can see why it would be an issue. It wasn't because he didn't want her to campaign for him. So it was not a political decision.

Having said that, I think Hillary does want to and should go out an campaign but I don't think she should "attack" palin. That's not good for hillary as her own negatives go up when she is negative. But she could campaign positively for barack with subtle digs at the republican ticket such as "no way no how no mccain-palin". but she shouldn't come across as jealous of palin or anything like that. But I do feel that it si important to have her out there as a campaign surrogate because I feel hillary supporters need to be reminded often that she is behind him.

Also, Ben Smith has something on this today. He said it's working class MEN that are more likely to support palin. Conservative women yes, but they weren't going to vote for obama or hillary anyway. Who's the best surrogate for working class men? Biden or someone else?

Palin is a fresh face, but is More Of The Same.

Make Palin out to be the right-wing extremist that she is.

Using young people!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sara-hailemariam/open-letter-to-sarah-pali_b_122710.html

Young women should be calling her out- what would her election do for women. What are the symbolic implications of a woman being on a ticket with a man who says that woman who want equal pay need more education and training. Use Palin's tokenism against her- ask her what the implications are, make them clear, what would a McCain administration do for the people of Wassala- use her attributes against her. I think that if the campaign is afraid to do it for fear of backlash leverage younger supporters to pointedly call out why her selection is ridiculous.

The youth support for Obama hasn't been tapped into yet in terms of messaging strategy- in a campaign that can accurately claim that it is uniquely linked with an engaged generation they should do more to put that at the forefront. Change comes not from a candidate but in what the candidate is capable of compelling a nation to do.

They shouldn't ignore her, but they should mainly play defense, bide their time, research her discreetly, line up the most damning material and squash her sometime around October 25th.

In the meantime keeping whacking McCain on his weak policies and lies.

Ignore her and go after McCain and his complete lack of policies. Quote Rick Davis on how this campaign isn't about issues at every opportunity. (Obama and Biden were on both of these today.)

Palin should arise only as an example of McCain's snap judgment and fondness for shooting from the hip and letting the chips fall where they may--do we want more government by gut and impulse and soulgazing? The blowback from his rash decisions would then fall on all of us. When the press asks Obama and Biden (and Clinton and McCaskill) about her, respond on issues "No one seems to know anything about her positions on the economy/foreign policy/health care/NAFTA/much of anything, and the McCain camp isn't letting her do interviews--maybe you guys could go find out what she thinks and get back to us?"

The press, however, need to follow up the many gates and keep pointing out how weird it is to introduce someone to the nation and then NOT have them all over the Sunday shows and interviews explaining, in depth, their views on all the issues that matter to Americans. It's not like I'm considering whether to carpool to hockey practice with her; I'm weighing how I feel about her a) helping McCain govern; b) taking the oath of office if he were incapacitated, as soon as January 21st 2009.

Addendum to my earlier comment: Obama was actually prescient in his acceptance speech regarding McCain's having bought into the right-wing extremist philosophy, as the pick of Palin confirmed the very next day.

Ignore the Fundie Right at our peril. Get the fire in your belly, and for the sake of Christ - Yahweh/ Jehovha/G*d open your mouths.

The Achilles heel are the comments and sermons from her home Church. Explore the web of relationships that is the foundation of her world view.

1. Take on these nefarious frauds and expose them with argument and truth. What now, right now- is the US Bill of Rights? Ask the arrested journalists at the RNC - then ask those who weren't.

2. What is the Dominion angle on Palin? Has it been been thwarted? What are the connections and funding between her pastors and the militant right wing? Who originally funded/created the Christian Right Wing Evangelists and why? Has the government of the United States ever used intelligence officers disguised as 'preachers' in Guatamala or anywhere else? What did those organizations of the 1970's and 80's go on to produce? What was or is currently the purpose of government involvement in using fundies/creating for alterior motive?

In my view, these particular strand of bellicose tricksters are the appropo bookend to the Bush Admin's Admonishment : "While your busy analysing ...we're writing the next page. We are the Authors of history" (sic). What a particularly virulent strain to be employing.

Finally, I ask - are we seeing this blandness - a greying of the country's hope - because it shows the worst side of America - the new "Pitbull with lipstick?" Is this the ultimate scare tactic to our international opponents? Hopeless and ready for a fight.

Drill and fight (prey) ...drill and fight (prey) ...drill and fight PREY! - their words - use against them.

Stay on message. Ignore her and if she must be mentioned, praise her for being one of the first women on a presidential ticket and then talk semi-reluctantly about her extreme positions and her unwillingness (so far) to answer questions from the press.
BTW, when was the last time a VP choice affected the outcome of an election? My guess is that this time won't be any different from the last 10 elections and the VP is just a distraction. I could be wrong, though.

Stick to the issues, yes.

But take a page from the oh-so-successful GOP playbook by always remembering to also attack McCain where he is strong (national security, vets), not just where he is weak (economy, health care).

Why does McCain seemingly date the start of the Iraq War with the surge --even though he was a staunch supporter for the five years previous as well? Why does he only credit the surge -- rather than the Awakening / massive changes of heart with Iraqi tribal leaders -- for the recent reductions in violence?
Why did McCain repeatedly vote against legislation proposed in support of vets? (GI Bill, increased funding, etc.) And isn't it curious that -- among active military actually serving in Iraq and Afghanistan -- Obama is favored by some 80%? How does he explain that?

And finally, stooping to the "it's not about issues, it's about personalities" campaign the GOP now wants to run:
Start needling McCain about how his ingenue Veep is the popular one, the "celeb," the one who draws the crowds and the money. Palin keeps upstaging McCain -- so just who's the candidate for President here? That might bring out McCain's legend temper at just the wrong moment...

It's almost impossible that this race is still so close. But this IS the most important election of our lifetime -- and we gotta pull out all the stops if we're gonna win!

Palin wants to lower taxes? What? The middle class needs to pay more taxes. They don't pay enough. The Federal Reserve needs more power to print more money to lend it to the gov't at a low interest rate and give it to the needy around the world. The middle class has it too good, they need to work harder and pay more taxes.

Obama has no response. Neither he nor his managers understand middle America, whom they dismiss as bitter, Bible believing gun clingers. Nothing he can say or do can compensate for this.


Moreover, Obama has for the first time encounted resistance, resistance he never dealt with at Harvard, the State Senate or the US Senate. He has no idea how to deal with pushback, something most of us spent our lives dealing with. Ms. Palin comes across as a breath of authentic fresh air in comparison.

John McCain's choice for VP is no outsider: she is a fully paid up member of the Washington lobbyist earmark machine.

So much for changing Washington.

If the IRS has rules against Churches endorsing political figures, how come when Dobson vetted Palin last week and then gave his thumbs up - and the tide turned - how could that be legal?

The GOP is vastly overrating her appeal to voters that are not republican. I would put max pressure on forcing her out of the cocoon they keep her in, work the press to keep pressure on. That should do it. Her shrill harpy act is making her McCains albatross.

JohnR, a "bitter gun clinger" like the governor of Montana, former rancher Brian Schweitzer had this to say last week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8iatxuU3OU
Don't make a fool out of yourself.

Fascinating. If Obama loses, "ignoring her" (his current strategy) may go down as one of the biggest blunders of his campaign contributing to his downfall. But I wonder what else he CAN do....

JohnR - dude get off the reload button!! Bitter repetitive and unarticulate middle America is a bit difficult to comprehend yes!!

She will be off the trail for a week assessing whether she can continue along w/ McCain's vetters.

Somebody made a great point to let the Enquirer and MSM do their job, the blogosphere is helping as well.

As David Plouffe has daid they are only focused on 18 state polls, not daily polls, and while the RNCC was on they were in OH, MI and PA with huge crowds actually meeting voters where it matters.

Also the 40M who watched McCain last note got 2 rude awakenings - not only did he have nothing to say on what matters to people he had less tp say than Palin did and that is even scarier.

They need to get Colin Powell's endorsement (and other foreign policy wonks who are petrified - like David Frum) to shoot a commercial... something like this...

"Hi I'm Colin Powell, John McCain is a friend of mine and I've even given to his campaign for president but John McCain is 72 and has a history of cancer. And unfortunately he failed to put his country first by selecting someone with zero foreign policy experience to succeed him should something happen- THAT IS THE NUMBER 1 JOB OF A VICE PRESIDENT. In a world where we are dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan, Iran, Russia etc. that is reckless and irresponsible. It is putting political ambition ahead of country.

John McCain would lose every state..

1. Counter Republican attempts to lower expectations for her at the debates. And for God's sake, have a woman as Biden's practice partner rather than Axelrod.

2. Make sure (through back channels) that McCain gets pounded for botching her rollout so badly that he may have permanently dimmed one of the rising lights of the Republican party.

3. Before audiences who are sympathetic to her, emphasize her progressive credentials and lament that McCain is the one at the top of the ticket.

4. Quote her saying "being mayor is kind of like being a community organizer", and otherwise exploit her sarcasm generally until she learns better.

5. Recognize (which they already have) that in the process of locking down the military with McCain and the religious right with Palin, they have left vulnerable and even alienated the highly lucrative businessman branch of Republican party. In addition to what's already underway on that front, get some prominent surrogates from the business community.

Now Obama is sending out women surrogates to attack Palin. How brave! Hiding behind women smells of weakness, and middle America cannot tolerate a weak leader.

And Palin strikes me as someone who can't simply be ignored. No way.

By the way, Ambinder. You are one of my favorite political bloggers - I just wish you updated more frequently.

Obama needs to OWN VETERANS ISSUES -- McCain votes against vets!!! Obama needs weekly video and radio addresses. Obama needs to show that he is a fighter. Also, take on "bitter" directly, saying I know my words were clumsy, but McCain/Palin are not offering you any policies that will be in your economic interest. Here's what I am offering. What if McCain's Palin pick had been wrong. That "near death" type of decision making is scary. McCain is a perpetual adolescent -- a 72-year old man behaving like he's a frat brother. McCain has a lack of maturity in terms of judgment. Obama has been vetted nationally for more than 2 years. He has stellar executive experience in building and running his campaign. John McCain nearly destroyed his campaign. John McCain is like the Clintons -- he loves near death experiences. Obama is a steady hand. Palin thinks Iraq is God's war.

Obama is at great risk of being "swift boated" by Palin. He needs to fully respond to each attack she and McCain level on him personally. Pivot on "community organizer" -- take it on, use the term to educate swing voters, educate that you WORKED WITH CHURCHES, faith based organizations, be specific on the issues. Take on each and every thing she says in her stump speeches, both her lies about herself and her attacks on Obama. She has no foreign policy knowledge, much less experience. How many states in U.S. has she been to? Has she traveled outside country? Can she be a heartbeat away?

Obama
Palin has just as much direct foriegn policy experience as either OBama or Biden...being so naive as to think you can sit dowm with Iran and have a Starbucks is crazy and that is what you get from OBAMA.

Energy policy is what she focused in on her speech...Getting the U.S on domestic oil would create more jobs and help our economy by putting people to work...developing alternative energy will help Solar Wind and NUKE power also,,,,,

Obamas policy of getting off of middle east oiL HELLO ONLY 10% OF OUR OIL COMES FROM MIDDLE EAST...Obama should be honest he is a slick politician who ran to the left of Clinton to get the nomination and now will goto the Center....If a Poll comes out that the sky is red tomorrow he will tell us its red....3/4th of the Dem Sheeple will believe its red the 1/4 left will look see the sky is blue but think oh I will wait till Obama turns it red....When it doesnt turn red they will blame Bush

The DNC should put up a clock telling us how many days it's been since she has submitted herself to tough questions from reporters.

Obama and Biden should ignore her and go after McCain.

If Palin starts to cause a bounce for McCain in polling, then the DNC can run ads about her extreme views (banning books, no abortion even in cases of rape) or her many lies (bridge to nowhere, etc.). But that's only if she becomes a problem.

Ultimately, Palin will either be a non-factor or a problem for McCain. She is bound to make a gaffe and Troopergate could get worse.

I'm in the camp that says he should embrace and engage her, in a way that challenges her and is focused on the issues.

She's a wildcard, but the weakness she exposes in him is with identity voters. The only way he can lose this election is if biography and identity become the dominant themes. That may well happen if he doesn't force John and Sarah to directly respond to policy and issue challenges.

If he really embraces her and celebrates her, and then she flames out because of personal issues, then he says directly to McCain- you made a bad decision- and then the election is over.

If she only gets stronger personally, and if he hasn't been engaging and challenging her all along on policy issues, then once he starts doing that, he's in a much weaker position, and it looks more like sour grapes.

I think further that if he doesn't engage her on the professional topics, and only sends women surrogates, he's being terribly sexist, which strengthens Palin even more with identity voters. And further, by delegating the problem to Hillary, it puts him in her debt, which is not where he wants to be.

Here's the speech I wanted Obama to give after Palin's speech on Wednesday:

I want to be clear that I welcome her to the national political stage. She did a great job in her acceptance speech. Her constituents and supporters should be very proud. We embrace her strong entrance into the race and we look forward to the new life she will bring to the campaign. I know she has an energetic base of supporters, and we're excited to have their voice and contribution to this debate.

At the end of the day, we all know we're not running on American Idol for who can give the best speech. We're running for President and Vice President. And the American people know- they know because they've told us- that the job is a little bit more than giving a great speech. The job involves policy decisions and judgments, articulating your goals to the American people, demonstrating the discipline to accomplish these goals.

What I want to hear from Sarah Palin, and from John McCain, are more concrete and realistic proposals. What we've heard so far is more of the same old, wrapped up in clever catch phrases, lacking specifics, and substance.

Drill, baby, drill is a great example. It's a great phrase, but the reality is that even oil industry estimates are that it will take 7 years of development to get 2 or 3 years worth of oil. Drilling would be great for the state of Alaska, but to be President of all 50 states, we have to look further at more comprehensive solutions, not just at local solutions that benefit one particular area.

Reform is another example. How will John McCain reform Washington, where he's been for 30 years, when lobbyists have been and continue to be the leaders of his campaign staff, and continue to write his policy papers. How does his example constitute reform?

We have a lively campaign season ahead of us. This is an historic election, at a critical time. We're fired up that the teams are in place and we look forward to our debates with Sarah and John about the most important issues facing America.

"Palin has just as much direct foriegn policy experience as either OBama or Biden.."

thomas - you are aware that foreign leaders call Biden? That he is one of the foremost foreign policy experts in the US Senate? That the head of Georgia in fact phoned him during the recent crisis.

MDA The same vets Obama could not be bothered to visit at the army hospital in Germany during his recent tour?

They should point out that the United States' military power and economic prosperity depend on our edge in technology; and that our edge in technology is rooted in science education. If it's true that Palin is sympathetic to creationism, then it's a reckless choice for a vice-presidential candidate, and not for liberal reasons. Teaching children that scientific evidence has the same status as religious belief can only push the United States education system to new lows vis-a-vis our rivals. This anti-intellectual stuff is not conservative at all; it's short-sighted and dangerous.

by LOL-ing very loud.

also, david lat sounds like a racist. "personal and idiosyncratic" my ass.

The truth will set them free. Since McCain and Palin continue to perpetuate the lies (bridge to nowhere, ebay, earmarks, no legislative accomplishments, etc.), I expect the media and serious Republicans (hello Mr. Hagel and Mr. Lugar) will say: "enough!"

Palin will be done in by one of the many swords over her head (go Enquirer go). I believe that she will go down as one of the most spectacular flame-outs in new product launch history.

In seeing the response to her, I'm reminded of a product introduction about 20 years ago. Here's the tale: the VP at Nabisco in charge of Chips Ahoy tried Duncan Hines Soft Batch for the first time. He couldn't believe it. Soft, moist, chewy -- as good as homeade and from a package. He went off to a meeting, depressed, convinced that he had tasted the future of cookies and it wasn't his. He came back to his desk a few hours later and took another bite. He smiled. The cookie was hard and nearly inedible. The cookie literally crumbled. Air (and sunshine) exposed that it was a neat trick, not sustainable.

I dare say: Sarah Palin is a Soft Batch cookie.

Both parties will continue to serve the agenda of the Trilateral Commission so either way we win. A North American Union is within reach.

"They should point out that the United States' military power and economic prosperity depend on our edge in technology; and that our edge in technology is rooted in science education."

Right: if those small town public school kids are taught anything that raises doubts about atheism, our future in science and technology is finished. Because everyone knows are tech companies and research universities are full of public school grads.

To our Republican friends: You don't get extra McCain points for copy and pasting the same talking point 12 times. You'll have to earn that golf gear some other way.

As for the surprise of the nomination--as noted liberal Charles Krauthammer points out, Palin was completely unvetted. Chosen on anecdotes and a good gut instinct, she predictably weighted down the campaign with the inevitable neophyte dirty laundry. Who seriously thought McCain would choose someone 3 days before the convention started without once calling someone in the veep's home state, looking at records available only in the veep's home state, or otherwise doing step one of due diligence on a nominee? (Let's all pause and think about how many positions a president fills. Queasy yet?) No one thought the McCain campaign was quite this nuts, but it's not like that's a selling point.

Palin's role in the Dem campaign is to illustrate how crazy McCain will be with executive decisions. Period. If Republicans want her to have any more serious role, they need to fix her up with some substantive policy discussions--I don't intend to debate whether she really drove her kids to hockey practice.

If those small town public school kids are taught anything that raises doubts about atheism, our future in science and technology is finished.
What on Earth are you ranting about? If they're told that the Earth is billions of years old, they'll all turn into little atheists, so better to teach straight from the bible? (Pi is three! Algebra students everywhere rejoice, unless they need to actually use the algebra to do something....oops, we're talking about jobs that require an understanding of math and science.)

My kids go to public schools; in what way are they being taught to be atheists? The subject hasn't come up yet that I've seen....Perhaps you're concerned that I am not raising them within whatever religion you practice, and thus your only chance to reach them and save their souls is to have your religion taught in the public school?

Seriously, what are you on about? These aren't even good cut-and-paste talking points.

Because everyone knows are tech companies and research universities are full of public school grads.
They're full of graduates from overseas, because the US has fewer and fewer people interested in getting an MS or PhD in the technical and scientific fields.

Hey, look at that, we're discussing a domestic policy issue! One of the conventions featured those!

concede the ground for them. Make them the establishment run as the challenger regardless of the poll. paint them both as out of touch and dangerous and more of the same.

Be prepared for massive voting irregularities. Have the polling monitors in place, and a battalion of lawyers ready to spring at the first sign of messing around with the ballot.

Monica, I love your idea. Powell would be great maybe Hagel too? I doubt Lugar will do it but it would be nice to have a series of these with different republicans essentially saying the same thing.

Here is how to do it.

1. Keep explaining your plan to help America get out of the mess the Republicans have made in the last eight years.

2. Remind the American people of the "good old days," remind them that the economy was strong under the last democratic administration. Remind them that the Republicans were voted in promising change, and they failed miserably. Remind them that McCain himself has admitted that the Republicans became corrupted and made this mess. Then ask the people if they would rather trust fixing it to the Democrats, or the people that have admittedly made the mess in the first place.

3. Keep reminding the American people that the Republicans have stated they want change, but have yet to offer any policy that actually represents change, just "more of the same."

4. Fact-Check. Challenge the attacks. Remind people that attacks are the acts of desperate people with no good argument of their own. Most of all, directly challenge their lies. Don't be a afraid to challenge the lies. Remind the American people that McCain promised to run a clean campaign, and that he promised to be honest with the people, then do McCain the favor of helping him be honest by fact checking his speeches for him.

Obama should never appear angry or frustrated. He should just come out and tell it like it is. He should be the messenger of hope, even when correcting the lies of the other campaign, but you must not let them stand, lest they appear true.

Biden should be the sword of vengeance. Never in a vindictive way, but much as he did today. He should be brutally honest, and attack their contradictions, speak plainly about what they stand for, and who is behind their policies. He should keep reminding the people that people only attack in politics when they have nothing to offer that is helpful to the American people.

DO NOT ENGAGE. My Republican readers all say that the moment Palin is engaged Obama loses the argument. Obama elevates Palin, who needs elevating, and then diminishes himself because the Republican response is always going to be "She has more experience than him".....to which Obama/Obama supporters have to explain how she isn't....and if you're explaining you are losing.

Palin was a brilliant pick because the McCain campaign wants her to be the shiny object moronic liberals focus on, instead of contrasting with McCain and painting him as Bush 44. McCain is now going to be mister nice guy maverick reformer, while his shiny object just NAILS Obama day in and day out. Regardless if they are true, if the Obama campaign responds they become true.

Never respond to Sarah Palin. Treat her like the sideshow she is. No press interviews? Come on. This was a pick for pure political reasons. It was not a pick to help McCain govern, which it was supposed to be. This was supposed to be his last council before major decisions. Americans can picture Obama and Biden agonizing over decisions and working together, but these two? No way.

The more you ignore her, the faster she fades away. She'll quickly be throwing more outlandish bombs to gain attention and break through.

Keep the focus on McCain and paint him as an out of touch clone of Bush. "Can you afford another four years of this administration?" should be the question.

To undermine Palin, just put prominent Democratic women out on the trail talking about kitchen table issues. Remind them that the other side will take away women's rights, but don't attack Palin. Remind them she may be a woman, but she isn't a woman like you.

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Obama needs to figure out a way to communicate his tax plan more effectively with some clever soundbites. Let the surrogates and Biden attack Palin on a couple of her big lies or weaknesses.

"The more you ignore her, the faster she fades away"

They are counting on ignorance - I believe yours is a fatal strategy.

She is the embodiement of the republican political con. This needs finesse and counter-step.

Ignore her for the most part, and focus on the truth about McCain's record, what he has and has not done for the people of america. YOU MUST GET A LOT TOUGHER! People remember the negative more than they remember the positive and his negative comments are sticking, whereas your positive ones are not.

Many, if not most, people honestly don't know the dreadful things he believes in or has done - you must tell them! Good defense helps win the game, but without offense there's no game to play.

And focus on what palin has and has not done politically - keep it honest and make it stick by telling voters how it negatively impacts them.
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I disagree -- ignore her at your peril. She's hitting a visceral nerve, and voters aren't even listening to McCain anymore. Every time she gets a jab in, Obama's image gets blurry again, because too many voters feel like they know her and they don't know him. I say, call her out for being the liar that she is. When she's discredited, McCain's judgment is automatically discredited. Ignore her and she will pick away at swing voters doubts. It is sexism to think that somehow she's going to crumble under the spotlight. They aren't just training her on what to say when asked a policy question, they're also training her on how to go on the attack when she can't answer a question. She's never going to show weakness -- but she can be exposed as a liar. Voters who are guided by policy have already made up their minds; it's the voters who are guided by gut -- "who do I identify with?" -- who haven't. Fighting them solely on the issues, even the pocketbook issues, won't move the needle if you let her attacks go unchecked.

Go after McCain, force him to run on the GOP record.
AND use the Palin choice to attack his lack of judgment and impulsiveness by making sure everyone knows the 'maverick' caved in to the Rovian lunatic right at the last second, a huge failure of judgment and too scary to put in the WH.
Paint McSame now as the bumboy of the wingnuts.
And sic HRC on Palin using the feminist/experience arguments.

What gives you confidence that Obama would make good executive decisions as President?

First, I'd note that I am choosing between 2 senators who have not held executive office. (I'm unconvinced running a business is experience that transfers--I'm reminded of Perot's seeming thought that he'd fire Congress if it didn't do what he wanted--but running WWII and the reconstruction of Europe are probably analogous skills.) I like governors; I'd love to see Brian Schweitzer up for president in 2016. But this year the governors were all weeded out early.

So I'm left with 2 senators. Each made an executive decision in the past few weeks. And that executive decision was appointing personnel--from Harriet Myers to Heckuva Job Brownie, we've seen how important that role is for a president, so it's a good spot to have a little insight.

Obama chose someone who could help him govern after he wins and who helps him on the trail. Biden is good on economic issues and identifying with working class folk; unlike the McCain aides about whom Saakashvili seemed so unenthused, Georgia actually asked for Biden. I could envision Biden taking the oath of office next January, or in any crisis after that, and I know he could handle it, and I know his thoughts on governance from his long history writing about them on the national stage, so I have a feel for what he'd do as president. Biden may not have been Obama's first choice--I think that was Sebelius--but he's a very solid and capable choice.

McCain chose someone he didn't know. Met her once. Didn't vet her. She seemingly has no particular thoughts about national issues and they're in no hurry to demonstrate that she does. That's not a serious choice. Nothing in that choice makes me think I want McCain out there making decisions for me, rolling the dice, doubling down, and taking the consequences of his actions--all the rest of us have to live with those consequences if he's elected.

No drama Obama. I've had plenty of drama with Bush; I would appreciate someone who can appoint good people and run a tight ship. Powers is an interesting pick on foreign policy; her fault was that of a neophyte to election interviews. His economic advisors are in the engineer, not theorist, mold--I like that. One of the chief things any executive does--military, business, politics--is recognize talent and put those people into jobs where they can excel. Another is working with the people already in place so you aren't reinventing the wheel every week, as Obama did in getting legislation through in both legislatures. A final one is getting good people behind your vision and convincing them to follow you. No one in Obama's campaign is pointing fingers today over the West Hollywood Middle School.

Finally, I actually agree with Obama on policy. An independent who votes a mixed ticket, I once agreed with McCain on many policies--8 years ago, 5 years ago--but in the past 3 years virtually all that maverick cred vanished. When he flipped on torture he lost my vote. Given a choice between two senators who've never been governors, I'll take the one who opposed torture last December and still opposed it in March.

Second, play up the fact that McCain only met her once before he selected her. Is that appropriate? How can you determine someone is qualified, both mentally and philosophically, after only 1 meeting? I think this plays up the gimmick component of the pick, which doesnt play well with moderate women or independents. Maybe a line like "John McCain talks about putting country first, but how can you put country first if you pick your VP after only meeting them once?"

I like this. Maybe tie it into Bush's comment about looking into Putin's eyes and taking the measure of the man on the basis of one brief meeting. "Is this the kind of judgment America needs?"
Meanwhile, let the press pursue her she's off to a bad start by hiding out from them.

Why should anyone care what a bitchy cynical queen like David Lat thinks?

It's clear his opinions have *nothing* to do with the fundamentals of what's best for the country, so why give him any attention?

I honestly just want to see some fire. Obama was so good the first time around that people are still pretty motivated. I mean I live in Alabama and plenty of people are quite excited to get out and spread the message for him. Ignore the Republicans and give a damn good speech. It worked for him before and it will work again. Everything they chastised Obama for, they are now doing. Fiery speeches, empty rhetoric, replace race card with gender card and you have the real Obamacans. Keep reminding Americans that Republicans want to replace themselves with themselves. And please, just watch the Daily Show.

Meticulously list every lie Sarah Palin has spouted in the brief time since her appointment: she has not reformed anything; she has returned 0 earmark money; she has not fought corruption; etc etc.

The Repubs have enjoyed their 3 days Fantasy Reform camp. Vacation is over. Everything the woman has said is a bald faced lie. Say so.

Here's the rub - after two years most voters don't feel like they know Obama, who is this guy?


But after three days, many, many identify with Palin. I Am Sarah Palin. Her story is my story.

I have never known a Hillary or Michelle Obama, I have known dozens of Sarahs. She is us, we are her, Obama is checkmated.

Ignore foreign policy, experience, economic policy, etc.
Only question her on 1 front. Reform.
Is she a reformer, or another Alaskan Bridge-toting earmarker with a history of questionable firings and an abuse of power investigation waiting for her back home?

I agree with many of the posters here -- Obama should keep on the Bush-McCain connection and talk about what wasn't talked about at the Republican Convention. I hear that Palin will not be doing interviews with the national press any time soon (or perhaps ever). That won't go over well -- and people will begin to wonder if she really doesn't have anything to say beyond smearing Obama. I thought the Palin choice was desperate a week ago -- it still seems desperate to me today.

He could try to quit being such a whiner, most unbecoming:

Today - "“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? …The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.”


Just who are 'They'? The same bigots Obama want to vote for him? Ain't going to work.

McCain has destroyed his own brand:

He was elected as a fair and honorable bi-partisan, a straight shooter.

In this election he has completely abandoned all his principles and everything he stood for.

Raise the brand and ask where the honor went, and for what did he exchange it?

Don't underestimate. The nation doesn't demand much scrutiny of dubious decisions if they are sold as righteous and necessary.

(See Iraq War.)

You're against abortion. You pray. Welcome aboard. Please feel free to f-up my country. And I'll thank you for it.


"But after three days, many, many identify with Palin. I Am Sarah Palin. Her story is my story.

I have never known a Hillary or Michelle Obama, I have known dozens of Sarahs. She is us, we are her, Obama is checkmated."

The problem is not complicated. Obama doesn't fit the narrative America has with Black men- he's no Murphy, he's no Cosby, he's no Horton. He's smarter than most whites and of course most blacks because he's smarter than most of us. We don't trust him/know him because he doesn't fit our well tended biases.

Palin on the other hand is your aunt or your high school teacher or even your mom - no problem there. Obama is what? You have no reference.

He therefore must be a fraud or an empty suit because he doesn't fit what we know about Black men. It is his deficiency - isn't that cozy - he can't connect. It aint the fact that you won't pick up the phone.

Ignore her. Expect the local press to do their job. Wait for the flameout. Talk about McCain the Republican, McCain the Bush buddy, McCain the guy who tries to pretend he's not a Republican, McCain the guy who tells his party that it has to change then picks a model of right-wing orthodoxy to go on his ticket. Talk about what they can't talk about.

Watch as the national press follows her around like lost puppies.

She won't 'submit' to an interview? Since when is it 'submission'? It's part of the bargain: if the press doesn't get access, let the McCain campaign pay for publicity out of its $84 million.

There is a discomfort with the radical right overtaking America, the country we should be, and the values we treasure. It is what swing voters are about.

Every mention of Sarah Palin should remind people she is of the...
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And don't be Obamasquishycerebralsoft on it either. Basically, we have to go around him on this.

I will now describe them in their correct order. The bottom of the ticket is the most important part of their ticket. Without it, there would be nothing there. She is the real leader of the GOP now. He is just a passenger.

Sarah Palin, John McCain are from The Radical Right.
Sarah Palin, John McCain are from The Radical Right.

Just asking what phenom.? She did not say anything yet and the press is making her the second coming of Jesus. What a world?

The baby snafu has given the McCain campaign an opportunity to conflate all questions about Palin's record with the scurrilous rumors broadcasted by the Daily Kos and, unfortunately, Andrew Sullivan. Best to keep up the attacks on McCain, while the press investigates her background. Her reformist credentials are quite thin. While this won't matter to partisan Republicans, you can only hope that independents will fail to see a there there.

Keep attacking McCain, respond to her attacks when necessary, work on cracking her code, and then launch frontal attacks on her record once the bloom on her rose begins to fade.

i agree with Amy's post @10:58. Ignore Palin at your own risk. The fly needs to be swatted not ignored or brushed away. Even if Obama/Biden can pull this out, Palin isn't going away. She needs to be tarnished before any future national campaigns. HuckPac can forget 2012. It's Palin's show in 2012.

Back to 2008 campaign, Obama needs surrogates and the DNC the peel the veneer away from Palin ASAP. Ideally, a 527 would expose her positions, lack of foreign or economic experience, etc. Since those are MIA this campaign, surrogates will need to do the work. In parallel to media/national vetting, hitting the economy ad tying Bush to McCain, Obama needs play up the fact that the maverick didn't stand up to the right when selecting his running mate. How can he bring change when he's carrying the far right's water?

On the campaign trail, develop a simple message on addressing the economy. Employ some credible business surrogates to sell your plan. Finally, talk about what an Obama administration would look like- people and policies.

Just keep stressing McCain's remarkable transformation from the maverick to the Bushophyte he's become. Fight McCain's new "change" rhetoric with his own voting record. The republican convention surely tipped their hands. They're terrified of being associated with Bush, and are thrilled with the diversion Palin is giving them. Take away the diversion (ignore it), continue pounding home McCain's lack of new vision or any perceptible deviation from the status quo republican platform. For every time McCain or anyone from his campaing uses the word "change", Obama or someone from the Obama campaing has to use the phrase "McCain/Bush policy" 5 times. Just beat it into the brains of the vast majority of the electorate. Hate to be cynical, but it's all that works.

I agree with the poster who suggested, above be respectful. We saw it today, with Sen. Biden referring to her as "the Governor." She should be afforded respect for her office. Even more than that, Obama and Biden should go out of their way to say some positive things about her admirable qualities, her qualities, not her policies. THEY SHOULD NOT ATTACK HER EXPERIENCE. This is the trap that McCain has set for them. Everytime it is mentioned, it hurts Obama. Obama's campaign SHOULD CONCEDE EXPERIENCE to them. She was a mayor, she is a governor. This is more than enough experience for someone with a clear vision of where she wants to take the country. Does she have one? No. THEY SHOULD ATTACK HER ON POLICY. Why? BECAUSE SHE WILL LOSE THAT DEBATE. So will McCain. Be respectful, ignore all the low class, Springeresque crap surrounding her.

In fact, Obama should appear and ask all the media to CEASE and DESIST their low brow attacks on "Gov Palin and the Palin family."

In fact, he should say, "I want all the media to hear me clearly, stop this harassment of the Palin family. It is not what an election should be about. I disagree with Gov Palin and Sen. McCain. I think they will take the country in the wrong direction. That is what this election is about, not this reckless character assassination of my opponents and their families. Let's talk about issues and where we should be headed as a nation. That is fair, it's good for the American people, and it's a fight that Joe Biden and I will win."

Responding to the David Lat post from earlier. Perhaps a sign that the threat of former-Hillary voters defecting to McCain-Palin is not as serious as David Lat (and Marc) would have us believe, the total number of members joining Lat's facebook group: 11.

Today was the day that team Obama should have had it's economic message ready to go. I was listening all day, and the sharpest words came from Joe Biden. On a day when the jobless numbers and the foreclosure numbers come out we need not just Bush bashing and McCain will be 4 more years, but as President I intend to make your lives better in the following ways: Very important to get this message out because we are approaching crunch time, and if Obama doesn't get it out, McCain will. Whoever get's there first will. It's that simple. IT'S THE ECONOMY.

Fred,
Obama is the leader of his campaign. Yes he has Axelrod, Plouffe and others to help, but he is the chief executive. He gets credit for the success of his campaign. You know just like when you're pres, you have other people who work for you and help you but ultimately the buck stops with you. Unless of course you're a president from the republican party who according to bob woodward's book said he didn't know how they made the decision to send additional brigades to Iraq "because he had other things to do". He probably means reading "my pet goat". I think the pres from the republican party just like sarah palin had exec experience. Wasn't he governor of a red state also?? You can't run away from Bush.

To respond to the Palin phenom, the Obama campaign should pointedly court Catholics and Jews, directly, in churches and synagogues, addressing faith issues. This would balance her appeal to evangelicals.

Michelle Obama and Jill Biden need to release a statement congratulating Gov. Palin....AND THEN point out that her family would benefit from Obama's tax plan! Palin makes 114k as gov and First Dude makes 93k working for BP...so they fall into middle class area that Obama is trying to help.

As working mothers they understand the need to change politics from the bottom up; isn't this what is appealing about Palin to most people? Point this out and then discuss a few key points within Obama's plan that will benefit special needs kids, uninsured families, and other relevant "mother issues" to highlight their desire for change.

Sen Obama himself needs to stay on target and ignore her. He IS running against Sen McCain.

I have to believe that this campaign can win through their strategy; otherwise I wouldn't trust them with my White House and the really tough issues.

Probably too late, but what they should have said:

"John McCain can only have made this pick because he agrees with us on one key point: that it is judgment, leadership, and talent - and not years of experience - that qualifies a person to be President.

"We do, however, disagree with many of Governor Palin's positions, and we are unsettled by the fact that we don't know her positions on many issues."

Ignore her. Just give her enough rope, and she'll hang herself on her own ambition.

I think the MSM won't back down because she's just too compelling a story: and compelling stories sell ads and newspapers. She will say or do something to reveal her true nature, or something will be dug up. The Obama campaign needs to just take the same strategy as with Jack Ryan in Illinois. Wait for the scandals.

Wow, late to this party, but here is my two cents:

He should do nothing. Palin's most "swooney" supporters are middle-aged conservative men, voters who would not vote Democratic anyway.

Ignore her. Let the media attack her. If they go overboard and attack her family then declare that out of bounds. Also play up expectations for her. She is a reasonably good debator. Biden should indicate he respects her and expects her to do well in the debates. Both Biden and Obama should focus on McCain. They were winning before the Palin pick and if they keep attaching McCain to Bush they should beat him.

Taker her seriously; treat her like any other veep nominee. Duh.

They should hunt down the dirt on her affair. Then it's game over.

Wait, didn't McCain have an affair?

Co-opt the straight talk express. I want Obama and Biden to talking to the press every day until McCain and Palin are shamed into going off script.

Great thread, as a lifelong Dem in a Red county (in the Bluest state in the Union, so my personal vote won't count, but maybe my thoughts will):

1. My friend today (working mom, Independent) "Something scares me about Obama". Not the "race thing" but perceived "not ready to lead". He's gotta dig deep into his guts and speak as our leader - express the specific Senate accomplishments that qualify him to lead - loose nukes, reaching across the isle, etc. This will educate weak Obama supporters. The issues, the future.

2. Attack ads v. Palin - let the ads do the talking, don't even stoop to her level by mentioning her name, if at all, Biden alone - GROOM that guy to handle the pit bull with lipstick or whatever you call her. Get those ads done NOW, get them out on the air in two-three weeks- attack her record, period. Not her backgroound, not her social issues. Just her record. 20 million in debt, bridge to nowhere, not a reformer, if any social issue, the banning books. Perhaps her absolute non-stance on the issues. Expose her, people are buying into her story and persona (white women, like someone else said; white men, small town america; the closet Repubs who were ready to vote HRC).

3. Connect with middle america, exactly like heartland said. Emphasize the opportunity represented by the U.S. becoming an alternative energy leader. Get them to understand that we must remain competitive as the world leaps ahead in technology. We are justifiably afraid of terrorist attacks, but we cannot become an insular, isolationist nation paralyzed in fear, we must innovate! Promote lower taxes and regulation of American small businesses.

4. Emphasize the sacrifice our troops are making and that they are defending our country and many have DIED. Further, MANY are permanently disabled or injured and we must not allow them to fall through the cracks. If anyone truly deserves help it's them.

5. Correct the stereotype that BO means higher taxes, the end of capitalism and a welfare state. Emphasize personal responsibility, period. It's an American value, not just a Republican one. I know he's done this. Clarify healthcare or minimize the issue. Focus on energy and jobs.

6. Emphasize his education plan and energy policy (Montana's governor's speech was the most specific description of BO's energy plan I've heard to date). Emphasize that keeping the nation safe is always the #1 priority - must show absolute readiness to be commander-in-chief with Biden by his side - Bush succeeded at getting this leadership message across, hence bringing us into war without Americans protesting in the streets.

7. Keep it short and sweet - McCain is more of same - attack his record, dig up the dirt - but remember, appeal to the very disenfranchised Bush voters, of which there are many.

8. People are voting with their pocketbooks this time around.

9. Give us hope for a future of America innovating once again, of competing in the global marketplace again, period.

Happy Friday and I thank everyone for invigorating me to see our nation succeed again! Please everyone remember that the media is a business meant to make you tune in, be it global gloom and doom or polarizing the candidates. Don't let it get you too down. We're gonna be okay.

whoop my bad for the double post! got a little excited there :)

I think Sarah Palin was EXACTLY what Obama needed to juice his base. A base that has expanded to include a majority of HRC supporters. People unite against a common threat and in Sarah Palin the GOP has it's Obama. She's smart and she's gifted and she works the hell out of a crowd and a speech. The only comfort I have is that I think Biden can take her in the debates.

But beyond that fact: the Obama campaign has always thrived when faced with a threat like HRC's campagin. Now Obama supporters see a juiced up Republican McCain-Palin ticket and they're going to go fight twice as hard to put Obama in the White House.

The Republicans now see victory, but just as important the Democrats can now see defeat and they're going to go nuclear to win this election.

This has just gotten juiced up and fun. I mean, when the campaigns pull American Idol like numbers I can not imagine what Nov. 4th is going to be like.

How about the line: "she is George Bush with lipstick"?

I am getting more and more frustrated with the lack of response from the Obama campaign. By saying nothing, they're leaving certain lies free to become truth in the minds of most voters. Also, their silence is being interpreted as confusion - as if choosing Palin was some grand tactical achievement by McCain. I think they need to come out with ads addressing the following, most importantly:

* Palin's reputation as a 'reformer', the earmarks, etc.
* The 'community organiser' comments, maybe linking community organising with the civil rights movement, universal suffrage and women's rights, etc, an ad showing images of those or footage of actual community organisers working interspersed with the mockery by Giuliani, Palin, etc.
* The claim that Obama has done nothing as a legislator - he's actually sponsored/authored about 3 times as many bills as McCain has.
* 'This election is not about issues', and relatedly
* Obama needs to (not in ads, just generally) very strongly note that the Republicans are exploiting fear of difference to refocus the campaign on so called 'value differences', but that, reiterating one of his themes, we have more in common than sets us apart; and secondly to refocus the comparisons between him and McCain, not him and Palin.

& less importantly:

* Palin as president - could a person with no record of any opinion on foreign policy be able to take over as president?
* As a commenter said above, a countdown to the day in which the press is allowed near her - maybe linking this into her lack of opinion on major foreign policy issues and her having to have a one week crash course in them.

The longer they leave it, the more they seem to approve of McCain's choice. If Biden, according to McCain, is not a good VP choice, then how on earth is Palin one? And you can bet that if the Democrats were claiming that someone would make a good VP because of their gender, moose-hunting and pregnant teenage daughter, the Republicans would (rightfully) attack in a second.

They need to thoroughly discredit Palin, and they need to make it very clear to the independents that she could easily end up president. They need to come out swinging - she did. It NEEDS to get ugly - she has thrown down the gauntlet.

It's all about the independents. There's plenty there to discredit (everyone should read the 2006 Dem vetting document, http://mudflats.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/palin-2006-vetting.pdf.

Obama is not being tough enough. This is something that independents noticed long before Palin - now it's becoming glaring. It will cost him votes.

what about running an ad showing polar bears swimming in open water, as metaphor for the american family under mcsame and palin, indirectly going after palins lack of support for the polar bear.

In no particular order:

Ignore Palin

about the surge, remind people that without the Iraq war there would be no need for a surge

remind people who the president is and who controlled congress from 2000 to 2006

remind people who was president on 911

Talk about judgement

Talk about jobs

Do not become too negative as this will re-inforce the "angry black man" narrative

And don't forget to talk about hope on occaision

Quit. The McCain campaign has already managed to define Obama as another tax and spend Democrat. Alas, the lessons of the past 8 years have not been learned by the Democrats and the "die has already been cast" for Obama to join Gore and Kerry on the scrap heap for discarded politicians.

Obama can ignore Palin. The Obama campaign cannot, because her presence on the Republican ticket could swing marginal voters in close states with substantial working class and socially conservative populations: Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia.

A surrogate-women strategy could help, if the right surrogates are used -- say, Hillary Clinton in Michigan and Ohio, Claire McCaskill in Virginia and North Carolina, Janet Napolitano and Kathleen Sebelius in the Western states. Michelle Obama's role as a working mother (healthcare, no less) in a nuclear family, if handled with subtlety, could also deflate Palin's appeal among swing-voting women.

"Enough!" however, remains the Obama campaign's best strategy. Palin, a surrogate for Bush on social policy subject to fundamentalist litmus tests, segues nicely into Obama's attack on "four more years of the past eight years."

I like the "George Bush with lipstick" approach.

As opposed to Bush: no taxes, just spend and spend and spend and spend.....

We started the Bush administration with a surplus, now we're in debt to the tune of trillions. This is what a REPUBLICAN administration gave us.

Rick, the GOP used to be able to use the Democrat big-spending bogeyman. That dog just won't hunt anymore.

Zacksback,

The dog shouldn't hunt, but many people do not know that the GOP has become the party of big government. Most people know what politicians say, not what they do.

The Obama campaign has been terrible about getting out their message of lower taxes and smaller deficits. I have to agree with Rick -- they've let McCain define them on these issues. They've also inexplicably let McCain seize the "reformer" ground, which he's been working on for months. Bad idea in a change election.

The Obama campaign needs to come out with a new attack ad every single day, and if they don't they might lose. Such ads would get played for free on cable news and be effective.

I'm worried by those who say "people vote for the top of the ticket," or other such universal truths. Because my experience is, once we decide something is a universal truth, the smart opponent will show it's not.

I mean, isn't the line at the top of Sullivan's blog, "to see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle" ?

The huge audience numbers for McCain's speech - do we imagine he would have done half as well if he hadn't picked Gov. Palin? The post-RNC poll bounce, the large crowds for campaign stops, the desert wasteland coverage of Obama-Biden...interest in Palin generated those. Will it last? Don't know. Hope not. But I would be very careful of assuming she won't be the issue that drives McCain's campaign.

Look at it this way: the Republican operatives have simply reversed the model they played in 2000 / 2004: idiot poster-boy Bush (who also was very good at reading a tele-prompter and beguiling assumptions) and snarky policy director Cheney (ok, McCain's nowhere near as evil as Cheney, but still...work with me).

Certainly, an all out personal attack on Palin's views or record can blow up in our faces. But let's explore all angles before we assume that she won't drive the ticket.

Yikes, I say, yikes!

It seems the consensus here is what Obama is doing. Ignore her, and focus on McCain. Have some qualified females visit swing states (Hillary, Sebelius, McCaskill).

Game on.

They should run ads juxtaposing her name with uproars of laughter.

1. surrogates pressure the press to MAKE her available. She is one doddering-old-fart-heartbeat from the launch codes and American people deserve to know her opinions on issues.

2. focus on McCain't and overall theme that GOP offered NO economic solutions throughout the RNC, and energy policy consists of 'drill baby, drill'? Are they serious? I heard Biden begin this discussion at an appearance yesterday and it sounded great and played well.

3. remind voters of McCain't position changes. It's as though he never flip-flopped on Roe v Wade, tax cuts, torture.

4. chip away at Palin myth. Debunk reformist claims, anti-pork claims, repeat corruption claims and surrounding investigation. Mail media to remind them to do their jobs on Palin and demand answers on economic and foreign policy questions. Also there is evidence not all Evangelicals are enamored of her.

Overall, keep it on McCain't. Which McCain't is running? The 'mavricky' RNC-speech McCain't? or the 95%-in-the-tank-with-Chimpy McCain't?

Marc, you should turn comments back on! The interaction really helps drive your site -- always lots of interesting interactions that go on in these threads, but they're too infrequent.

But after three days, many, many identify with Palin. I Am Sarah Palin. Her story is my story.
Unless JohnR is a talented satirist, this is a serious argument from a McCain supporter that Palin is a great pick--3 days.

Obama should appear and ask all the media to CEASE and DESIST their low brow attacks on "Gov Palin and the Palin family."
Huh?
a) The media don't report on what Obama tells them to; they report on what they think will sell newspapers and draw eyeballs. Occasionally a good-for-you piece on substance they know will draw fewer hits than Jamie Lynn's buppies, I grant.
b) Obama has said repeatedly that family is off limits, Palin's family specifically. As has Biden. And the team is very on-message this week about the lack of issues in the Republican strategy. This is just a "You said it 10 times, but not 15 times" argument.

They need to thoroughly discredit Palin, and they need to make it very clear to the independents that she could easily end up president.
What makes you think the independents haven't noticed this? Polls and focus groups I've seen have independents moving away from McCain since he picked Palin. And specifically complaining that McCain's people only talk about her biography, not the issues. The base is in love; potential crossover Dems and independents are not. She motivates both bases and is a net negative with independents--this is not the triple on Hillary supporters they were aiming for.

Convincing the 50% of independent women who thought McCain was prochoice that his record, platform and campaign promises are solidly antichoice is a far, far better use of "why you shouldn't vote for McCain" time than trying to take apart the would-be vice president. That's a job for the media, not Obama and Biden.

Ignore her. And talk about how arrogant and ignorant her and McCain's positions are, without giving her any credit as a political phenomenon. In other words, focus on the issues.

Show a Polar Bear swimming in the Arctic Sea then cut to Palin in a helicopter with a high power rifle blasting it. As the scene fades show the bloody bear groaning and ready to die.

How should the Obama campaign respond to the Palin phenom?

Contemplate the consequences of a McCain/Palin victory, and the death-knell it sounds for an idea-based politics; where competence is devalued (Walter Reed, anyone?); where science is seen as simply another ideology; where the church-state barrier crumbles further; and the American government is involved in bringing closer "the end of days"; and fight, fight, fight!

1. While McCain is just like Bush in policy substance, Palin is just like him in style. A brash foreign policy neophyte that apparently thinks its enough to have Jesus in your heart and so forth. We've seen that movie.

2. Like Bush, she does not believe government can accomplish anything, and so, like him, will help run a government designed to prove that thesis (cf. Katrina). We've seen that movie.

3. Her church preaches the end times are nigh and she may believe her role is to help accelerate that.

Obama and Biden need to ignore her. They are right to dispatch Hilary to focus on McCain, not Palin. They need to frame the debate to focus on issues, not personalities, and reduce their presence in battleground states with large evangelical populations.

Palin will eventually either fade to the point of insignificance from the contest or will have a spectacular self-destruction (Troopergate investigation results will probably determine which). The benefit of her speech is that she has already presented herself as a polarizing figure, which makes her less of a threat in the long term.

The only way to fight this is to be completely clear on the Obama economic and energy strategies, be very specific. Make this your complete focus and make it untappable. Leave no room for error and if any flip flopping has occurred, have an educated response. People are entitled to change their mind after trial and error after all.

After all the personal attacks from the convention, it is important for people to see that is all they have to offer. Criticism with no viable alternative of their own.

As far as Palin, investigate all allegations fully and provide evidence. Prove the lies or inaccuracies told. Touch on the trampling of copyright laws with songs - shows they have no issue with trampling on rights. However, leave this for Biden to address - especially at the debates. Obama needs to remind voters who is running for president. Did you notice on news reports yesterday she was in the forefront attacking Obama while McCain was in the shadows?

Another thing the Obama camp needs to address is the issue of voting present so many times. This can really come back to haunt him on the experience and ready to lead issues the Republicans have.

I have not heard nearly enough about that disgusting 9/11 "tribute" video. That was so tactless and so disturbing. Play up the mistakes of the speech (Walter Reed and the gravestones during the victory portion) without seeming petty like they do. Facts, facts, facts.

Get those affected by your time as community organizer out there.

Let's bring back the facts of the Keating Five investigation. With the mortgage and credit crisis facing us today, it is important to show any parallels to the savings and loans bust from the past. Never stop talking about the McCain personal wealth, 7 houses, etc. How can someone who doesn't live as most Americans know how to save those Americans from financial disaster? Change the meaning of their "elite" stance but showing what the true meaning of the word is. Mrs. McCains wardrobe and jewelry during the convention probably cost more than many Americans make in a year.

Be on top of the Georgia/Russia issues. Why has Cheney come out of hiding now? Why are they sending $1 billion in aid while thousands of Americans are losing their homes? Is the administration stirring a pot of pre-election new Cold War stew?

Talk about immigration. Why are we not enforcing the laws from the 60's? What will be done to combat illegal immigration while updating legal immigration? Can the system be fixed to make it easier? Compare to Canada and other countries. Talk about those American jobs which have gone to Mexico.

Leave the debating to the debates. Spend each and every day on the campaign trail speaking of factual, doable solutions to make our country better.

Get the HRC front and center with campaigning. There is a strong base there that deserves to be heard.

Don't be afraid to go after Palin's nastiness via Biden. Don't get down in the mud pit though. Do it intelligently and make it only about the facts. If she attacks, attack back with the truth or explanation. Don't be afraid of her or being accused of being sexist (I am a woman). If you attack back on points no one can sanely accuse you of sexism. There is a reason they have her on the forefront with her silly rantings.


Ignore her attacks! Let the female surrogates rip her.
If the media does its job and does not shrink in the face of McCain campaign bullying and fake sexist accusations, she will wither on her own. There's enough to sow doubts about her.

Keep going after McSame as Bush, the trigger happy mentally troubled grandpa.

I'd like to see a set of arguments built around the soundbite that the only thing the Republican ticket wants to change is the subject.

One of those arguments is already being made in a general sense, by identifying the laundry list of issues that weren't mentioned at the convention because they can't talk about their record or their connection to Bush.

But it works on a bunch of other levels too.

It ties into the idea that Obama is not "changing the subject" from the Palin phenomenon to the real issues, but instead is staying with the same message that has gotten him this far.

It offers the opportunity to hit the Republicans point by point for the distractions and falsehoods they are serving up instead, which are now so loud and so consistent that it's pretty clear they have decided they can just outrun the facts and create their own "truth."

Also, of course, it's a nice use of the change theme. I can almost see on the RNC's signs ... McCain/Palin: Change The Subject!

Oh yeah, feel free to talk A LOT about who helped write a lot of her convention speech - BUSH'S speech writer!!!

The Obama campaign wizards are whistling past the graveyard if they think they can ignore Sarah Palin, because her telegenic impact will help sell her fallacy-filled attacks on Obama to a wide swath of independent, working-class white voters in swing states, and that could be the difference in this election. Right now she is back in Alaska to undergo briefings on foreign policy and a vast range of issues about which she knows nothing, since she is the least well-educated and least politically experienced nominee for the vice presidency since the erstwhile poet William Orlando Butler in 1848 (he had served only 4 years in Congress, after having won notoriety in the war against Mexico). The Obama campaign should take advantage of the hiatus in Palinmania afforded by her cramming sessions at home, by running very hard but entirely factual ads debunking her supposed reformist record in Alaska and insuring that voters in swing states know that as a mayor she fired the city librarian for refusing to censor books, has said that she believes the war in Iraq is part of God's plan, and refuting a litany of erroneous claims she has made about Obama and Biden in the past few days. If the tone of these ads is "more in sadness than in anger," and they build an accurate picture of this person's unfitness for national office -- based on her alarming views on war, energy, natural resources, and civil liberties, as well as her penchant for trashing her opponents -- the skepticism of a majority of the electorate about her readiness for the vice presidency will harden into rejection, and John McCain's big glitzy media weapon will be disarmed.

Focus on the economic news. Come up(finally) with a powerful theme, backed up by specific and creative proposals (not just Clinton redux), that puts the focus squarely on the economy and Obama's SOLUTIONS.

Average people are frightened. They want new IDEAS -- not just new people making the same old partisan attacks.

More thoughts on the above post:

Palin isn't a game-changer, she is a subject-changer. So the Republicans have decided that the game is changing the subject.

Use the same theme to hammer on the bridge to nowhere. She was for it until she was against it, she used the Alaska old boys for all they were worth until they became too toxic to be seen with, she took the money anyway and used it for other things, and she falsified the whole story the moment she was introduced and hasn't backed down an inch. She is saying one thing to the nation after saying the opposite thing to the people of Alaska.

That issue has staying power. It is clearly important enough that any male Alaska politician on a national ticket would be dealing with it every day between now and the election, and making an exception for Palin would be playing directly into the change-the-subject strategy.

Talk about the "Nowhere Alaska" shirt. Show her ties to Stevens. Show her real attitude toward earmarks. Show that she is exactly what McCain says he is running against. It doesn't just show the hypocrisy, it shows it on an issue that McCain himself has strongly identified with and the voters may even care about, and it shows that she is already an old-style Washington politician no matter how young she is.

And bring it all back to McCain because he picked her. Or at least he says he was the one who did that.


They should do what they are doing,loud and clear:

"Palin gives a nice speech, but where are the issues? We care about your issues, which is why we are running for the Presidency. Isn't she like that smart-ass kid in school who could only say mean things?"

Rinse and repeat. It takes Palin down a notch or so, makes people revisit the empty show of the RNC, and see how empty it was, and makes the election "we, the people" versus the Greedy Old Party. Biden does it really well:

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KZaUDKejZ_g

Science and technology. Passionately link science and tech to our national security and economic power. Mark Warner was spot on in his future/past dichotomy with the Ds and Rs. Link the Rs to the anti-science gobbledygook of Christian Fundamentalists. Obviously Palin allows this equation more easily than McCain did. Memorize the conclusion of the Dover decision on Intelligent Design and point out that Palin views ID as a legitimate scientific theory that should be taught alongside evolutionary theory in science classes. While the president does not determine curriculum, this is an indicator of the brainwashed mentality of the vp candidate. Dark ages vs. the age of reason. We all benefit from advances in tech (I write as I post this to the beloved internets). I think this will fly with all collars (blue, white, green) too since people need only be reminded of the moon landing, air flight, telephones and our lead in biotech to burst with pride.

Palin is the new shiny object where McCain can hide behind while she is hurling insults at Obama. You noticed that since Palin's speech full of attacks, McCain tried to protray himself in his speech as the bipartisan hero.

Obama will lose if he engages directly with Palin. Let his women surrogates do that. And let the media continue doing its job. Obama needs to stay above the fray.

And hammer home his economic agenda.

And for all of those who are falling for she is one of us mantra. George Bush was protrayed as one of us-someone we would like to have a beer with.

These are challenging times, with enormous difficulties facing the next president. I for one, don't want an average, she is one of us, in the White House. I want someone extrordinary who can play the same chess game against Putin. McCain and Palin are checker players and don't have any skills to manage the 21st century problems we are facing.

Its the economy and security of this nation stupid.

In addition to the many useful comments above, here is some good advice from Dahlia Lithwick of Slate Magazine:

http://www.slate.com/id/2199363/

Throwing the kitchen sink at Palin will not work.

We need to focus on a couple of the least justifyable things that are least likely to cause backlashes.

I think we should focus on her extreme positions on certain issues and her AIP associations, but ignore her family, her experience, her competence, troopergate, etc.

We are diluting our arguments if we pursue too many of them.

For my full reasoning, read here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/6/11327/00200/921/588949

After watching Biden's speech on Sullivan's site, I think if this pit-bull keeps at it like this, they'll be just fine.

The Obama Team should release just one ad on Palin. Entitled: Baggage.

This ad should hit her on the investigations that she's going through and other controversies:

Picture a smiling, waving Palin. There's a new girl in town, with all of the same baggage that has kept politicians from addressing your problems for the last 8 years.

Troopergate, bridges to nowhere, endorsements of corrupt politicians.

Can America really afford to allow four more years of political baggage to distract us from the issues important your family - healthcare, energy independence, tuition costs, job creation ? Not this year!


OBAMA CAMPAIGN TALKING POINTS:

- Palin is an extremist and doesn't represent the views of mainstream America.
- Palin has an uneven record in Alaska: as fiscal conservative, deficits, reformer, on ethics, and independents would be wise to stay away from her (what it says about her judgment and not experience!).
- Palin is likable, has a compelling personal story, is comfortable in front of the camera, and is effective as a campaign representative and communicator of policy.
- McCain is McBush.
- Palin "sounds like" a Washington insider, and promises a return to partisan rancor (again, independents would be wise to stay away from her).
- Obama campaign is about unity, hope, the future of America, competence in government, honoring the constitution, and meeting your economic concerns (job creation, global competitiveness, health care costs, tax cuts for middle class, collage affordability, minimum wage, economic security for retirees).

Snakes on a Plane?

How about Wolves in a Helicopter!

Hockey Mask Mom is a budding serial killer and she has initiated cruel and sadistic practices against wolves so her rich buddies can shoot caribu.

Its the willie horton ad that democrats can use and ITS TRUE.

But I doubt Obama has the guts to use it.

I think we do need to respond to Palin, just not directly.

Obama surrogates should decide on three or four memes that reflect on Palin's addition to the ticket without mentioning her by name and they should keep pounding them over and over until they settle in, the way the Republicans do it.

Here are some of the themes we could use. Any others come to mind?


1) MAVERICKS:
Do we really want two "mavericky mavericks" in the White House? Close to the nuclear button? (This meme has the additional beauty of attacking their self-proclaimed strength, which is another successful Republican tactic).


2) ANGRY RIGHT:
Why was the Republican Convention so angry? Since they have offered no new ideas for the next four years, all they have left are these angry attacks. Not what America needs right now. (Turn the angry left argument on them. They sure are angrier than the left these days!)


3) LIES:
Why are they always lying? Enough!! We don't need any more Bush-era deceptions from our leaders! Lies like the Bush tax cuts they used to be against but now are for; the Bridge to Nowhere they used to be for before they were against it; the airplane that sold on ebay for a profit, only it didn't.


4) NO MORE DO-OVERS:
They had eight years. America did give them a second chance to fix things four years ago. Look what they did with. No more do-overs!


All four of these are real easy to understand--in small towns and in cosmopolitan towns--and they can be expressed in short, catchy words. Obama's arguments and responses are too thoughtful. We need to hit back with simple bullets, not reasoned arguments!


I think being overtly critical would be a mistake - The nutso right loves nothing more than being an "oppressed minority", so what you do instead is give her enough rope to hang herself.
The fact is, these scandals aren't going away for her. As Adam Nagourney said last night on Charlie rose, what we've seen so far is just the low hanging fruit. More is to come.
Now, ask the same questions over and over: "Why won't she talk to the press?" and, in implication, "What is she hiding?" There is enough doubt about her already amongst the undecideds that if she has the appearance of scandal followed by cover-up, then that will become the dominant narrative. But it will require follow-up. Lots of follow-up.

The Obama campaign should simply express concern that Palin's views about almost every issue remain unknown.

They should criticize the fact that sheltering her from interviews, the press, etc., is fundamentally undemocratic, and that the American people deserve to know where she stands on certain issues.

It's not a question of experience; it's a question of KNOWLEDGE. Can she pass the "What's the difference between Shia and Sunni" test? If the Obama campaign attacks not Palin per se, but the McCain campaign's sheltering of Palin, it will make it appear as though the Republican ticket is hiding something, i.e., that Palin is uninformed about a majority of the issues that VP candidates should be well-briefed on.

Attacking her personally is going to fail, it has already failed in a huge way. The media, and by implication, the Democrats have looked exactly like the Rovian machine of personal destruction that they claim to despise. I cannot imagine why anyone ever thought her daughter's private life was a reasonable, suitable or smart avenue of attack.

"Troopergate" is similarly all smoke and mirrors because at the heart of it is a trooper who admits he used a taser on a 10 year old child. It is also going to end up a non starter because the Democrat in charge of the investigation proved himself too partisan by the comments he's already made--he sounds like he's made up his mind she did something wrong when no depositions have been taken and so far NO evidence has been made public that comes close to proving she fired the official because he wouldn't fire her dirtbag former brother in law.

You aren't going to win on her experience either, that's another vein of fasle shiney gold. She has held two elected offices, she is one of 50 people in this country with the responsibility to govern a state. Alaska happens to be the largest state. To demean these accomplishments, especially when Obama has never held an executive position, is foolish. It will swing right back to Obama's lack of experience. If she is not qualified to be VP, how can he be qualified to be president?

That said, Sarah Palin on the ISSUES is out of step with America, she is even out of step with a large majority of Republicans. And her actual record in Alaska is at best mixed, she appears to have made a lot of decisions for short term gain, ignoring the long term implications. This is EXACTLY what Bush has done and for this she should be called to account.

But, turning every little thing into a huge "gate" scandal will backfire and every word spoken and written about her daughter is one more step closer to Obama losing this campaign.

Apparently, the only Democrats who understand this fact are Obama and Biden.

That won't work either, because it will come across as nothing more than the media wanting access to her so they can continue their personal smear campaign by asking her irrelevant personal questions. IF, the media and the Democratic surrogates had not already blown it with the Bristol Palin stories, it might have worked.

Plus, all the McCain campaign has to say is that they are eliminating the biased media middle man and Sarah Palin is going straight to the voters, who afterall, are what really matters and will be able to judge her for themselves. There is no good comeback for that.

I think they should not do much with Palin except for rebutting her attacks. How can she stay in the news when she doesn't do interviews and the Republicans in their hamhandedness made it tough for any journalist to do a softball interview.

Even people like Ellen, Tyra and the ladies of The View would have to ask Palin about recriminalizing abortion, I would think. Dan Quayle got a question from a middle-school girl reporter about recriminalizing abortion even for his own 9 year old daughter if she became pregnant as a result of rape.

I still think that the more effective way to fight this ticket is not with reality-based questions and comments about Palin's stand on the issues or her lack of "knowledge" as opposed to her lack of "experience." This is the intellectual approach one could use in a letter to the NYT (or in a comments section on an Atlantic blog).

For the mainstream media and the country at large, a more emotional response is needed.

Being called angry or a liar is an emotional argument that the observers understand and the accused cannot defend against so easily. "Why is the right so angry?" (even tho they have been in power for the last 8 years) is harder to answer than "What is Palin's experience?" Or "Why is she hiding from the press?"

We need to fight them not in the rational sphere but in the emotional sphere. The Republicans have been winning elections because they get that ... and we don't! We try to be reasoned and logical and that does not play well on the TV. Soundbites with bite is what we need and surely we can come up with some that are not too inane!

I find some of Obama campaign's responses too lengthy and wordy, spoken too slowly. We need to be more scrappy in responding to their attacks! The responses should be delivered with a smile but they should be swift and painful ... and slightly condescending ... if we are not to look like weaklings ... again!

Palin wants to lower taxes for the middle class? Those earning less than a Million per year should be paying more in taxes. We need to help those aound the world. The banks also need tax revenue from the middle class.

Liz,

Repeating scandalous, unsubstantiated rumors is only going to hurt Obama. Even if this alleged waitress comes forward, if she exists at all, why should she be believed? Does anything else support her story?

I shudder to think that we would want to move into the realm where anyone can come forward...just at the right time...to make just the right accusation....and that is enough to torpoedo a candidate.

It looks like a lot of people didnt learn anything from the "show us Trig's DNA" fiasco.

I think Hilary Clinton should go to Alaska right now, ostensibly to help Democratic candidates. I fantasize the following dialogue:

Reporter: Why are you here in Alaska, Senator?

Senator Clinton: I wanted to buy a dog, and I hear Alaska breeds good pit bulls. Seriously, I am here to speak on behalf of Democratic candidates.

Reporter: Have you an opinion on Governor Palin?

Senator Clinton: I am bit disappointed with someone who came to Minnesota and announced herself as a pit bull with lipstick, then skedaddled back up here with her tail between her legs. One good speech .... what has she done since?

Reporter: Would you meet Governor Palin?

Senator Clinton: I would love to debate the issues of this election with the Governor, when the Republican party release her from protective custody. I hear they won't even let her take questions from tame reporters.

Reporter: Do you think her candidacy is good for the women's movement?

Senator Clinton: Any movement by women through that glass ceiling is good for all women. However, on women's issues in particular, I don't think Governor Palin or John McCain would be good for women, if they were elected.

Ok, its a fantasy... but at least a high-profile Democrat attack on her strongest suit (her supposed toughness) might throw her off balance. Men in general take time to warm to tough women, and the pit bull image is very off-putting for a man.

Margaret Thatcher only really won the British over after she was in power for a few years. She proved herself in the Falklands War, without it she would probably have been turned out at the next election.

A challenge by another strong woman in the Democratic party would make America sit up and take notice. Hilary Clinton would have nothing to lose; Sarah Palin would have everything to lose. What sort of pit bull backs off from a fight?


Obama said at the Bon Jovi fundraiser he won't be bullied. Man up, there! Saying you won't be bullied by a 44 year old hockey mom must have Putin laughing his head off.

Libertarian and Liz,

No need to worry. Key members of the Trilateral Commission have already spoken with Palin. She is now our princess. We win regardless of who wins the election.

I think they should not attack Palin but should also not let the McCain camp get away with her attacks on him. Her insults and ridicule should be challenged and used as an example of the "old" politics of attack and distraction.

I also think Obama is a little bit in dangerous territory with this "celebrity" label. I fear if he does not fight this head on it will start to sink in with voters much of the same way the swift boarding ultimately worked against Kerry when he did not fight back.

I would challenge the celebrity stuff with their own witty commercials about the "new celebrity" Palin. And show all those wacko Republicans going wild for her at the convention without knowing anything about her.

I also think the Obama campaign should go after the press too. I would constantly challenge the press to keep asking the McCain campaign why Palin won't talk to the press. Why can't she talk about healthcare, the economy, foreign policy. Could it be she doesn't know anything? They should build that in their stump speeches. I thought Obama's line the other day was great when he said I have been doing this for 19 months (remember Rev. Wright?)and have not complained. She has been at it for a matter of days and can't handle it.

And finally I would let surrogates question McCain's temperment and his meaness. I wonder how many know the joke he told about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton back in the nineties. I also wonder how many women would be willing to support a man who calls his wife a c**t in front of the national media. Again, why is that more widely known?

The McCain campaign should hammer this message home: Obama as President means a greater chance of bigger wars. Putin and Ahmadenijad will sense his weakness and inexperience and they will test him; Obama will feel compelled to show he's not weak and will end up escalating the situation. No foreign leaders would mess with a President McCain.

Juan, Putin would eat Obama for lunch and still be hungry.

Hey, maybe all the Obama supporters could remind us of all the landmark legislation Obama sponsored in the Ill. Senate and the Us Senate, I seem to have forgotten.

A. Don't cower from a fight...

IT'S TIME TO START SPEAKING OUT MORE (THROUGH SURROGATES OF COURSE) ABOUT SARAH PALIN'S NUTTY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH AND HELP SPREAD THE WORD THIS VIDEO.

Very Creepy promotional video for a Wasilla Assembly of God entiteed Master's Commission (whatever the hell that means)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJnhRhJW35o


When you watch this video REMEMBER...this was Sarah Palin's church for nearly her entire life.

The man with in the leather jacket donning a goatee was Sarah Palin's pastor from 1999 till 2002.

She continues to have close ties to this church and is involved with workshops there.

Too late.

He had his opportunity to pre-empt Palin, by putting Clinton and her 18 million voters on the ticket. (Obviously, Gov. Sebelius of Kansas appears to be a little short on experience now.)

It's too late now.
Palin is the new phenom, and Obama is stuck defending his executive "experience" against the GOP's VP.

Meanwhile, she is absolutely relishing the role that VP candidates traditionally bear -- attacking the other Presidential opponent, and then stepping behind your own Presidential candidate while he presents his Presidential resume.

What won't work for Obama:
"McCain is Bush! Vote for me!"
-or-
"McCain's going to die within the next four years! Vote for Me!"

Obama's decision to go back on his word and opt out of McCain-Feingold campaign finance REFORM probably doesn't help either.

Want to avoid much verbiage but in large part Obama & Team must continue to do what they have been doing. Yes, Palin is an issue, but she will dispose of herself; other than the true believers she will attract few. McCain will have no explanation for running with all the contradictions he has constructed in the past week; Bush & Co. remain the subtext of this election. I suspect Obama & Team will ratchet up the pressure which will be responded to by the nonsense of the past, this will effectively end McCain"s campaign.

How about something like this:

Sarah Palin said supported the bridge to nowhere, as long as she could get Congress to foot the bill. Alaska has billions in dollars of oil money -- more than they know what to do with. The Alakan government actually gives away money to the people who live there. They are our own Saudi Arabia. They could easily pay for the bridge themselves. But once Palin learned that Congress refused to fund her project, she cancelled it. I guess she didn't really want the bridge. She just wanted your money.

You folks crack me up!! HAHAHA!!! This is better than reading "Lord of the Flies"! Come on, let me hear all of you scream, altogether now "Get Piggy!"

Oh, "the darkness of man's heart!"

Use websites like the DailyKos and Moveon.org to spread more rumors about her alleged ties to neo-Nazi groups. Use Wexler to spread it all around.

A lot of that kind of stuff will eventually stick.

gently point out through surrogates that if Mccain doesnt make it (and some fundamentalist/last days loony will be plotting to bump him off as we speak) Palin will be up against Putin etc -its a real possibility..
meanwhile -- Biden seems doing fine and should more or less ignore her...and you can imagine him vs Putin..

a good talking point is that like her or not- Palin was a risk as had not been vetted - a gamble - do you want a reckless gambler with w hot temper who like Bush goes with his gut (viz Colbert) like Mccain in the white house - sometimes gambles fail...Obama is obviously cooler uinder pressure

Palin is "George Bush with Lipstick"

religious fundamentalism, governor with "executive" experience but no foreign policy experience.
young (in 2000) and charismatic but uncurious about other views. Both barely traveled outside the U.S..

Also, must call out palin on her as Earmarking Queen both as mayor and gov.

Carefully study what Andrew Sullivan recommends, and do the opposite.

Describing Palin as a "Christianist" nut offends Christians and makes her a cause celebre among them. Her entire career trajectory is on the wings of others' underestimation of her. She is smart, tough, knows at least one important issue (energy) better than any of the other three candidates and has more charisma than the three of them put together. She has changed the dynamics of the race, which, as you recall, was hinged on GOP disaffection and apathy. That's over. Palin is the living embodiment of the Rove 2004 strategy.

Obama needs to ignore both Republican candidates and go back to selling himself and his ideas. Obama is proposing a change of direction for this country. Put some meat on those bones and dress it up pretty, and exude confidence in his chief executive capabilities.

Once a day ask, how could John have chosen someone who ___________________? (enter one of a dozen negatives or scandals).

Each time you do this, the press gives a brief summary of the negative/scandal's features. You force the press to stop ignoring her book banning, troopergate, creationism, wacky church. The press can't resist this kind of chance to go into a brawl. The Republicans are making the character aspect the issue, so the press does your job for you for the low info voters.

When you are campaigning or advertizing, keep emphasizing the policy solutions you are offering and counter false advertizing by the Republicans. This way, the voters get the real facts and you are not so scary.

I'm a strong believer that all one needs to do to defeat the Republicans is use their own words against them. I think the use of Democratic surogates to attack is silly and generally ineffective. All you need is plenty of audio and video recordings--newspaper reports if that's all there is (but when is that all?) And a good editor. And don't forget to record all prominant Repubs and Palin's associates as well.

I don't think there is any question the democrats will win in Nov. However, I think the Palin phenominon should not be neglected once the campaign is over. She should be followed to every public appearance she makes and recorded, recorded, recorded. Win or lose, she is not finished.

Gov. Palin: She may have been hunting moose but she fed Alaska a steady diet of pork.


Dear god, no wonder this country is falling apart. It's sad to see so many juvenile and illogical ideas coming from, I assume, readers of The Atlantic Monthly.

Sit back, relax, and wait for her to sink the ship.

I just wanted to point out: there's no more reason to think that she knows any more about energy policy than any of the other candidates. Her entire expertise with it is a combination of (a) shilling for oil companies so that they can make more profit and (b) taxing them more so she can give more multi-thousand dollar welfare checks to Alaskans.

It's like thinking a tobacco industry lobbyist claiming he knows all the ins and outs of medical science. Thanks but no thanks.

i don't care for sarah palin.

why is marc ambinder concerned with this so much? does he think palin represents mccain's salvation?

palin = band playing on titanic.

obama can ignore it.

The more I learn about Sarah, the more I think she can easily be painted as the second coming of W. The Democrat meme could be: McCain is so like Bush and so loves Bush, that he put mini-Bush on his ticket.

He could go hide behind Hillary's skirts. Oh, sorry, he has already thought of that one.

In other news, I just saw Joe Biden's face on a milk carton at the grocery store. Hope they find him soon.

In Sat's Boston Globe, "Community organizers fault comments at GOP gathering, saying 'Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a Governor'." Me, 'the KnowNothing Party has returned, The Presidential Candidate knows nothing about economics; the Vice Presidential candidate knows nothing about foreign affairs.' re how to go after Palin, on the issues, the drip, drip and the lack of vetting by the McCain campaign will provide them with a lot. Apparently, she did not sell the state plane on EBAY as McCain said, she sold it to a campaign supporter; she didn't say no to Federal money; she didn't say no to the bride to nowhere. I think the biggest deal here is what kind of manager is McCain going to be. The Economist is out with a very critical article saying he caved to the extreme right; Woodward's new book has Bush saying the surge DID NOT PRODUCE the lessening in violence in Iraq; it was more advanced counterininsurgency techniques; reading this book may be the kabash on 4 more years of Republicans handling our foreign and military affairs. But the big news has be to Fridays employment, forecloses, and the fact that Fanny and Freddy are now in conservatorship. One last thing, David Gergen said on CNN last night, and I agree, these politic stars who are relatively new are not all Barack Obama, many more are like Mike Huckabee who when confronted with the the Intelligence Report showing Iran was no longer testing nuclear weapons, said he had not heard of it. Let's give this a few more days, and let's see if they will let her talk to the press, if not, why not?

Voter Registration. Ground game.

Are you better off than you were in 2000? Is the nation better off?

>> >>
>> >> Here is a list of books that Sarah Palin tried to have banned from
>> >> the Wasilla Public Library, according to the official minutes of
>> >> the Library Board. When she was unsuccessful at having these books
>> >> banned, she tried to have the Librarian fired.
>> >>
>>
>> A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
>> A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
>> Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
>> As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
>> Blubber by Judy Blume
>> Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
>> Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
>> Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
>> Carrie by Stephen King
>> Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
>> Christine by Stephen King
>> Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
>> Cujo by Stephen King
>> Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
>> Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite
>> Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
>> Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
>> Decameron by Boccaccio
>> East of Eden by John Steinbeck
>> Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
>> Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
>> Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
>> Forever by Judy Blume
>> Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
>> Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
>> Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
>> Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
>> Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
>> Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
>> Have to Go by Robert Munsch
>> Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
>> How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
>> Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
>> I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
>> Impressions edited by Jack Booth
>> In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
>> It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein
>> James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
>> Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
>> Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
>> Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
>> Lord of the Flies by William Golding
>> Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
>> Lysistrata by Aristophanes
>> More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
>> My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher
>> Collier
>> My House by Nikki Giovanni
>> My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara
>> Night Chills by Dean Koontz
>> Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
>> On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
>> One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
>> One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
>> One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
>> Ordinary People by Judith Guest
>> Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective
>> Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
>> Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
>> Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
>> Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
>> Separate Peace by John Knowles
>> Silas Marner by George Eliot
>> Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
>> Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
>> The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
>> The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
>> The Bastard by John Jakes
>> The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
>> The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
>> The Color Purple by Alice Walker
>> The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
>> The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
>> The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
>> The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
>> The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood
>> The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
>> The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
>> The Living Bible by William C. Bower
>> The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
>> The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
>> The Pigman by Paul Zindel
>> The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
>> The Shining by Stephen King
>> The Witches by Roald Dahl
>> The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
>> Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume
>> To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
>> Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
>> Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster
>> Editorial Staff
>> Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the
>> Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
>> >>
>> >> ###
>> >> Courtesy of R. Matter

I really wanted to not write about Sarah Palin today, but my God I just can't help myself. The latest news is that Palin apparently had a somewhat non-traditional college experience. As in, she transferred schools six times...

1. Palin matriculates as a freshman at the University of Hawaii at Hilo. She drops out "after a few weeks because of the constant rain there."

2. Palin enrolls at Hawaii Pacific University, a private college in Honolulu, as a Business Administration major. She leaves after a semester.

3. Palin transfers to North Idaho College, a Coeur d'Alene community college. She completes two semesters as a General Studies Major.

4. Palin transfers to the University of Idaho as a sophomore, in the Journalism program

5. Palin transfers to to Matanuska-Susitna College in Alaska and completes one semesters.

6. Palin heads back to the University of Idaho for three more semesters and graduates with a degree in Journalism.

Now, a lot of Americans may be able to identify with Palin's undergraduate odyssey – but not her running mate, John McCain. McCain only attended one college, the United States Naval Academy. But maybe he should have considered transferring – ideally to a school where he wouldn't have finished #894 out of the 899 graduates in his class!

BY: Ethan Ris
http://blog.indecision2008.com/

Keep pointing out how ridiculous the whole thing is, when you have to, but keep the focus on yourself.

Why do Republicans hate Competence? (see, e.g., Bush, McCain, Palin).

By working 100 times as hard to win Texas and get Rick Noriega elected to the United States Senate: http://acropolisreview.com/2008/06/2008-democratic-senate-candidate-races.html

Do you mean a VP candidate that can't handle the media and becomes more polarizing the more people know. As Palin would say -- it's God's will what happens.

I think Obama needs to hit harder. The economy is the lowest it's been since the Depression.

An interesting point:
Drill, Drill, Drill (in Alaska) betrays McCain's true belief that the surge will fail.

Otherwise, the drilling would be near Kirkuk.


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By providing voters with a bio (tv, newspaper ads), and insist that she do press interviews.

I don't know who Sarah Palin is, and I'm extremely concerned that the McCain campaign seems to be keeping her away from the media... for the next two weeks?!

When are reputable journalists going to be allowed to question her on her experience, her record, and her views on the major issues in this election?

If you think America should learn more about Palin, go to Interview Sarah Palin Now.

For McCain:

After eight long years of a reckless, got-it-alone foreign policy and eight long years of an irresponsible, let-them-eat-cake economic policy, Republicans George Bush and John McCain are asking you to give them four more years to perfect their shared vision of Washington reform - the only difference is that instead of a cowboy in the White House, we'll have a maverick. That's clearly not change we can believe in.

For Palin:

Sarah who? We don't know much about Sarah Palin. And neither, it seems, does the McCain campaign. All we know is she was for earmarks before she was against them. All we know is she was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she decided she wanted to go to Washington.

So far they're doing pretty good...and I think Obama/Biden know much better than most how to handle this, but, for what it's worth:
1. Don't panic (which Obama doesn't do).
2. Steer WAY clear of personal attacks - in fact, talk her personal story up, and use the opportunity to wonder why the GOP seems so intent on personal attacks against Obama.
3. Dig...DEEP. It's clear McCain didn't, and it's clear the GOP faithful don't care to.
4. Political attacks only. Go specifically after those things she touts as her strengths and credentials. She's unknown, and if her "greatest hits" are debunked, then Americans will get to know her as a liar...just another corrupt Republican.
5. Keep asking where she is - why, if she's so capable on "day one" she hasn't talked to anyone even though it's day 8...9...10...
6. Talk mostly about their own plans, and mostly about the economy - they can't spend too much time talking about Palin, because the more everyone focuses on Palin, the less focused they are on the issues of the day and the need for change.
7. Give the media something else to talk about until there's some negative Palin news. They will obsess about their new superstar unless they have something else to focus on.
8. Lastly, do NOT respond to their taunts. The GOP strategy is to distract, don't play their game.

Unfortunately the truth doesn't matter. I believe that Schmidt, McCain and company either knew or didn't care about everything that is coming out about Sarah Palin. They can simply erase it by lying or saying it doesn't matter.

What does matter is that people want their President to appear to be "Presidential" in some way. The speech was important because she had to have the appearance of a credible candidate - she did not actually have to be one. So long as she read the teleprompter reasonably well, looked good, sounded OK and didn't drool she was going to pass the test.

The problem is that what the world saw in that speech was as good as it gets with her. Take away the practice sessions with the teleprompter and she stumbles over words and phrasing because she doesn't know what she is talking about. Have her talk without a script and she rambles, modulates her voice poorly and chuckles under her breath. The unprotected, real Sarah Palin is unpolished, raw, not very articulate and not really that attractive.

Fortunately there is Youtube and tons of material available for all to see.

It is really important to have the media keep up the pressure to get her unprotected as soon as possible. It would also be helpful to have people,other than the official campaign keep people aware of the really ghastly footage,even from the last couple of days.

The campaign should stick to policies. Sarah Palin is exciting to people because she is new and her image is an empty vessel they can fill however they want. The more the Amercian people actually see her, the less attractive she will look.

URL CHANGE!!!!

I don't know who Sarah Palin is, and I'm extremely concerned that the McCain campaign seems to be keeping her away from the media... for the next two weeks?!

When are reputable journalists going to be allowed to question her on her experience, her record, and her views on the major issues in this election?

If you think America should learn more about Palin, go to Interview Sarah Palin Now.

Obama today - “She’s a skillful politician. But, you know, when you’ve been taking all these earmarks when it’s convenient, and then suddenly you’re the champion anti-earmark person, that’s not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can’t just make stuff up.”

I guess Obama in not listening to the advice from his suporters here, he is attacking the GOP Vice Presidential candidate directly, a mark of a rank amateur. She has him shaken and off his game, now she can bait him, give him line and pull him out of the water like the good fisherwoman she is.

Where did slow Joe go?

Hire women spokespersons not just Gibbs and Plouffe.

Hire appealing WOMEN spokepersons to counter PALIN. They really don't have to be the governors.

While generally I'd like to see them ignore her, I liked Obama's attack. His campaign needs to paint her as corrupt. Her strength is as a white knight reformer, if that can be tarnished she's useless.

I'd like to see an ad: Biden narrating about how she left Wasilla with 19 million in long term debt and ending with "that's not change, that's more of the same."

T: you make a great point. Hire at least one woman spokesperson, that's very smart and important.

I agree with the majority opinion. Hit her and McCain on their bogus claim to change --especially the earmarks lies --respond to the lies about Obama's tax proposals --and the many other distortions.

The Obama campaign has been brilliant all along, I'm confident it will continue to be so.

Finally, karma. She has a mean and malicious spirit, she is contemptuous. So is John McCain.

In the end the non-aligned public will see it, sense it. They will be undone by their own malice.

Attack McCain's record, his policies (or lack thereof), his judgment, everything.

Don't talk about Palin much, except to say what Obama and Biden have been saying for the last couple days: that she is not a reformer, 27 million dollars in earmarks, good attack dog but that doesn't bring people the policies and help they need, etc.--basically, more of the same.

Basically, Obama and Biden seem to be doing well so far in dealing with her.

Go to war with the Dem establishment.

The Obamatons are whining and Palin barely hit Obama on Wednesday. Wait until she slams him for his involvement in corrupt Chicago politics, convicted slumlord Tony Rezko, terrorist William Ayers, etc. Dems want to make fun of Palin's family? What about Obama's newly-discovered half brother living in a hut in Africa. Obama can't even keep track of his own siblings, and he's going to run the country? Please.

Obama should immediately challenge her to a game of Capture the Flag.

Hillary (If she will play ball.)

It seems there's a widespread belief that it would be wise for the Obama campaign to ignore Palin in favor of keeping the focus on McCain. However, I would argue against this. Make no mistake, when McCain picked Palin, he fundamentally changed the game. I don't care if the polls haven't moved much yet; Palin is a huge wildcard. Nobody knows how important she'll be to the race. She cannot simply be ignored.

It's foolish to think this "bury your head in the sand" approach will work for very long. For the next two weeks, Palin will be THE central issue. She will be THE new media star. Ignoring her will only make the Obama campaign seem out of touch, irrelevant, and even afraid to take her on. Ouch. They should instead seek to define McCain as not having the temperament and wisdom to make good executive decisions, define Palin as an right-wing ideological extremist, and above all else DRIVE UP HER NEGATIVES.

I think it's quite reasonable to assume that Palin won't self-destruct. The media will surely set her expectations for the vice presidential debate so low that she can certainly memorize some talking points, have speech writers come up with lots of crowd-pleasing one-liners, and come out without too much damage. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if she's pronounced the winner by at least half the audience.

But honestly, who knows? That's why I'm only suggesting a strategy for the next two weeks. Then Obama will need to really assess the situation based on the facts on the ground. Are the attacks working? Is the media still Palin obsessed? Is Palin moving the polls, or has she become irrelevant? Perhaps at that time the Obama campaign will determine that it's time to ignore her and focus instead on McCain. But I think they would be very, very stupid to ignore this candidate.

Bottom line: It would be a serious mistake for the Obama campaign to ignore Palin. Instead, they should go negative, hit her, and hit her hard ... while they still have a chance to define her.

What's the difference between George W Bush and Sarah Palin? Lipstick.

She's a charming, wisecracking liar with no knowledge of foreign policy, ability to govern whatsoever, ideas how to help working families or do anything besides recite the speeches Bush's speech writers give her.

She's not a pitbull. Pitbulls don't hide from reporters. She's a celebrity, not ready to lead. Unlike Obama's willingness to give interviews and talk policy in depth, Palin has only done a fluff piece for People Magazine talking about her (off-limits) family and her love of eating moose.

McCain said Obama's experience was too dangerously short, then revealed his insincerity by picking someone with much less. Obama was deeply involved in a bipartisan effort to keep nuclear materials out of terrorist hands while Palin was putting the small town of Wasilla in debt.

Like McCain and Bush, Palin doesn't tell the truth either. She didn't just support the bridge to nowhere she stunningly insists she was the one who said no.

Republicans are good at misinformation, changing the subject, zingers. They're terrible at running the country.

1. Add me to the chorus of voices who think that Obama took the right approach today -- hit her ONLY on the gap between McCain's representation of her as a reformer and the reality. Pork queen with a lobbyist of her own. Drive that home. I'd wait for her (or McCain) to tout her credentials as a fiscal conservative to hammer her on the ways she was totally not a fiscal conservative. Basic point, she's not who McCain says. Let all the subtext speak for itself.

2. Be complementary on all else within the bounds of credibility.

3. GET AHOLD OF EVERY TAPE OF HER DEBATES WHEN SHE RAN FOR GOVERNOR. Study them. With someone who can see just how brutally effective she is. That woman may not have any interest in national policy or foreign policy. But she totally knows how to debate. Socrates would condemn her as a sophist. But she's a good sophist. And sophists know how to make the lesser argument seem the better. Don't stint on time or resources on this. Biden needs to be very, very well prepared. Not on facts and figures. But on how to combat spin and rhetoric. She did not get the nickname Baracuda by accident. This will be her big national moment. If at all possible, prevent her from shining. Figure out what her moves are and be ready with clever counters. And then get someone to figure out what a baracuda would do to counter the counters and have counters for those. Find someone who can mimic her debating style and practice, practice, practice.

In truth, I believe citizens want to hear about us - the people. By this point in the election process, we have heard much about Sen. Obama, Sen. Biden, Sen. McCain, and Gov. Palin. Now, the time is ripe for savvy candidates to depart from discussing each other, and focus on your future constituents -- the American people.

Pretend we are out on a date - you and your potential supporters. We know more about you guys than you probably feel comfortable with by now. Tell us about ourselves. Tell us how happy we will be to have you as President and Vice President, and tell us why. Woo us for a spell. Middle class and disadvantaged Americans are like a neglected woman out on a date. Rap to us.

Be smooth. Be easy. Don't come on too strong, because you don't have to do that now. By this time, even the Republicans know the GOP is not good for America at this juncture. Even racist people among us know that our country cannot bear four more years of the same. We got the message. Most of us are ready for CHANGE. Tell us more about what we're changing to, and don't spend our date talking about our ex lover.

The folks out there on the fringes really won't be swayed by your stomping on McCain/Palin's bodies. They are brain dead already, holding on by life support. If you woo us just right, even the Republicans will be ready to pull the plug.

Praise the American people. Tell us again how we are smart enough to unite for the good of our country. Praise us for not allowing hate to deprive us of the CHANGE we need. Dance with us, while you whisper to us good promises that we want to hear.

The American people are like a woman who was much neglected by her former lover and came on a date with you wearing a five-year-old, much used dress and shoes with scuff marks. That ex did not take care of us, did not work with us to help us to be all that we could become. He embarrassed us in front of our friends and enemies and weakened our standing in the community. He promised us many things, but delivered us into tragedy.

Remind us of McCain's failed Savings & Loan situation and the failed bank with which his son was affiliated. Remind us of the war and the future wars we want to avoid through diplomacy. Tell us plainly that Palin is not ready and why, but do not leave her bleeding at your feet. We do not want her to win a sympathy vote.

You have our full attention. Those who are open to the idea of voting for you, but have not yet committed, will come if you stay positive and concentrate on them and their needs, wants, and desires. But be careful not to be like a fumbling drunk who will lose the dollars out of his pocket while digging for change. Don't be so anxious to go after the undecided voters and the fringe Republicans you seek to sway that you lose site of the African Americans and other minorities, special interest groups, etc., who have supported you all along. We are the dollars in your pocket. Don't lose us going after change.

Now is the time to charm us, encourage us, praise us, the American people. Make promises, whisper sweet things in our ears. Put us in the position that we feel hope again, appreciated again, motivated again, and once again included in the decision-making, as is our right in a govenment BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE. In fact, the Constitution says EVERYTHING we want to hear from you. Promise us that. Promise us a life of liberty where we can pursue happiness, fully endowed with the privileges we must have under the Constitution. Remind us often what a CHANGE that will be from the last eight years.

Concentrate your energies on the American people, and not so much on elderly, false McCain (who left his own wife when she was used up), and Palin, who missed her time in D.C. by four years (she would have fit right in with the Bush Administration). Just smile, talk, and dance with your date -- the American people. And promise us the life outlined in the Constitution will again be ours.

You'll win. Be anxious for nothing, as God said. You will have what is for you. Relax, enjoy the rest of the election without sweating.

Mary Neal
Assistance to the Incarcerated Mentally Ill

Visit Online at: http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/AIMI


A couple of other things:

Don't directly call her or McCain out on the obvious weakness manifested in the decision to not trot her out on the national stage now.

Instead, get Biden out for as many grueling interviews as possible. Call attention to her hiding by not hiding yourselves. (It's good, in this context that Obama's on O'Reilly -- in anyu case, both Obama and Biden need to be maximally available to provide the implicit contrast).

Talk about what went into picking Biden. The point is not to tout Biden over Palin. It's to tout Obama's process over McCain's process. Do it briefly and moved on. (1) Wanted someone ready to take over; (2) Wanted an advisor/someone who could challenge and debate; (3) Wanted someone people knew about so they could judge for themselves.

In general, keep Biden as visible as possible. He gave a terrific speech yesterday. Try to get as much ink for him as possible during Palin's downtime.

Try to get at least one visible joint appearance out. Show off the rapport that shown in the 60 minutes interview. It's not been much remarked on, but at her acceptance speech it did not look like there was any love lost between McCain and Palin. I tend to think they've quarreled. Again, just do the contrasts. The buddy-buddy routine O'Bama and O'Biden have going is quite engaging. Get it out there as much as possible.

Palin is a media-creation. I was struck by how shrill her convention speech was - no ideas, just mockery. How is this different from zillions of partisan convention speeches?

Now the media is trying to tell us that Palin is a star, just like
the big pharma ads try to sell us medicines we don't really need.
Sorry guys, not going to work.

I agree, mostly, with the strategy of ignoring her.

From a standpoint of countering her in a manner that mobilizes voters, I think Schweizer of Montana would be the Democrat who would appeal to the same voters.

Use Schweizer in Colorado, North Dakota, and New Mexico as McCain/Palin go to these states.

The "alleged" appeal of Palin, which I am not sure will last among the majority of voters (especially independents), is not that she's a woman it's that she's folksy and real. Palin is the anti-Hillary. The way to counter is with someone who is folksy and real, but understands and values science, the environment, and sound energy policy in a real and meaningful way to counter the "Drill, baby, drill" mantra and "global warming is not man made" crowd.

In the name of God an everything that is holy use this....http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/22/14023/1070/795/572803

I can't figure out why the Obama-favoring blogs are not highlighting the Economist magazine editorial questioning McCain's judgment over the Palin pick. Come on guys, link it left and right, it needs to get out there.

Also, good idea, longroad.

Will someone tell me why Obama hasn't done ads reminding people of the Keating 5 scandal and McCain's role in it?

The woman is basically a pit bull = castrator.

Forget the soft-focus hockey-mom stuff. Men will vote for a hickey-mom; a castrator will scare the s**t out of them. Hammer away on how agressive, divisive, bitter, partisan and negative she is. Biden called her "formidable", he can go beyond that. Cheney or Spiro Agnew in skirts and lipstick.

Against that, point out how cickens**t it is to sequester herself from the media for two weeks. Some pit bull. More bill s**t than pit bull.

These attacks would be better from a woman.

Dress Biden in a skirt and high heels. Maybe add some Make-up. Then one-on-one mudfight. The Winner takes the election. Sounds rediculous but the way this election is turning out, watch this idea be totally plausible in a month or so.

If she is the GOP "messiah" then how come she is only being let out of her cage in the reddest of red areas?? Because she has no crossover appeal. This is beginning to look like a stoploss tactic on congressional and senate seats.

New campaign ad: Palin, the celebrity. But mostly just let surrogates point out her numerous inconsistencies in her "story" and total lack of experience. Obama needs to hit McCain hard on the issue of lying. If McCain is lying through his teeth now, what will he do if he is President? Haven't we had enough of half-truths and lying?

They need to exploit how Palin's hiding from the media is completely consistent with the Bush Administration. Even more importantly, Obama needs to re-emphasize that a core value of his administration will be transparency and accessibility.

Keep hammering the economic issues; point to the steady drip of the headlines; explain what the bailout of Freddie and Fannie means and why it underscores Republican mismangement of the economy; keep talking to blue collar men about jobs; about Plain ready to lead, but not ready to speak on national talk shows. Don't get too personal with her though, women will get defensive. Start excerpting the Woodward book on TV talk shows; a picture of this dysfunctional administration can't help the Repbublicans. I'm finding a lot of questioning of her credentials among women who think she is not qualified. Mort Kondracke: That wacko woman.

Obama ignores her at his peril.

Attack her relentlessly.

Attack her for her position on abstinence only sex education. Didn't work for her family, doesn't work for our country. The US has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the industrialized world.

Attack her for her position on abortion. Most people want abortion to be legal in cases of rape or incest.

Attack her for her position on teaching creationism in schools. Most Americans want science to be taught to their children. Even Americans in Kansas and small towns in PA.

Attack her for her crazy statements (on video) stating that the war in Iraq is "God's will". I don't want her representing the US in talks with Pakistan or the Saudis.

Point out that she only got a passport last year.

Attack her for her terrible record as mayor of Wasilla -- leaving the town of less than 10,000 with $20 million in debt. Point out her appetite for US federal tax dollars.

Point out her lying about how she opposed the "bridge to nowhere" and other pork barrel projects.

Attack her for not being remotely qualified to be president. By comparison Obama has had a ton of experience. Especially by the Senate committees he chairs.

Attack her for her role in Trooper-Gate.

Attack her for her connections to an organization calling for a vote on Alaska seceding from the US. Her husband was a member for years. And she set a welcoming video to their convention THIS year.

She has no right to be president or VP. She makes George W Bush look intellectual. She would be a dismal failure for this nation.

Obama needs to destroy her.

At last a balanced article on Sarah Palin. It appears in Sunday's Boston Globe which reaches the New Hampshire media market. I have just finished e-mailing every major political reporter at the Times, WaPo, Politico, MSNBC. This article does not get into any hot button issues. It does say this is a two issue governor, not interested in education, healthcare, etc. I wish someone with better computer skills would take a look and make sure this article gets in the right media e-mail in- baskets. From Alaskans who have some policy credentials, this woman is really not ready to govern.

I agree with Eric. She needs to be defined while she's hiding.

Point out that she is now the prisoner, and use her own supposed attributes to turn her against her captors.


A woman with her experience and independence and leadership qualities and readiness for a position of such overwhelming responsibility must be absolutely livid that these men cage her up like a precious little bird, cart her from place to place (in what -- the straitjacket express?), and let her out just long enough to stand on stage and sing until they order her back into the cage.

Ask the men in charge why they are so terrified of a free press, and ask her (if she is ever liberated) if she ever tried to escape. Meanwhile, put up ribbons (color suggestions welcome) with signs that say: "Free Sarah!"

Stuck in captivity by people who are fighting against freedom: she has more in common with McCain than we thought!

Time for a new blog post, Ambinder.

Sarah Palin - ready to lead on Day One, ready to face-down Vladimir Putin..... just don't ask her to face the real threat to world peace - THE AMERICAN MEDIA! Because, you know, interviews are so much harder to deal with than dictators!

Biden: She supported the Bridge to Nowhere until it became a national embarrassment. Then she withdrew her support, but kept the money. Does that sound like a reform candidate?

She's running on the anti-corruption ticket, but she ran a 527 for the indicted Senator Stevens. Does that sound anti-corruption to you?

She courted earmarks for her city of Wasilla, then left the town with nearly $20 million in debt. Is this the behavior of a fiscal conservative?

She is lying to the American public and hoping no one notices or cares. We've had 8 years of that treatment. We can't afford even 8 more days of it.

Refer to her "experience": as a former newscaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiOIEGM7XEs

People are intrigued by her looks, concerned about her experience, appreciate her small-town story, and like her smoothness.

A quick and easy way to package all that into a stereotype --> "should this former small town newscaster be a potential president?"

Mentioning this spurs two implicit but extremely important critiques: she's insincere and ruthless (that whole newscaster thing), and she's got the looks w/o the brains (knows foreign policy just from what she's heard on the news, she's being hidden from the press cause she's not prepared, etc)

Didn't Obama vote for that bridge to nowhere?

Cramming is for finals, not the presidency.

Apparently, she is receiving three weeks "training" in how to be a VP.

This is pathetic. The fact that the Democrats don't seem to all over that is also pathetic.

Obama is a Chicago man, is he forgetting the Untouchables?:

"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. That's the Chicago way."

One reason for Obama's attractiveness was that here at last was a Democrat with liberal idealsm, but a fighter too. Also a shrewd strategist and tactician. If he comes across as too well mannered and gentlemanly for the fray, he'll lose.

He needs to co-ordinate a good attack strategy on McCain-Palin with Biden, Hilary Clinton and Michelle. Not that he needs to be an overt part of it. Democrats need to know that Palin is hurting. They need to put some teeth in their campaign from somewhere.

The areas to attack define themselves. What are they waiting for, I wonder?

Advice to Obama: Dump Biden now. Pull an Eagleton. He was flat and ineffective on Meet the Press this morning. I heard him sighing as Brokaw asked him about his support for the finance industry headquartered in Wilmington.

Obama should get rid of Biden and beg Hillary Clinton to join the ticket. Obama-Clinton would streamroll the McCain-Palin ticket and would probably result in a 10% popular vote victory. Obama-Biden is going to be a very close election.

Use female surrogates to go after her, especially on creationism, no abortion in case of rape, etc. The low-info voters need to know how extreme she is. She comes off as a normal mom; they need to know her beliefs are way, way, way out there.

If John McCain somehow wins in November, pray daily for his health and well-being.

I agree the Biden choice is looking worse by the minute. He is obviously more qualified to take over if he needs to, but we don't vote for VP. We vote for president.

The more Obama harps on Palin's lack of experience, the more undecided voters will end up agreeing that both Palin AND Obama lack the experience. Alot of undecideds will think, well at least McCain's ticket is not upside down. Obama is stuck. He was the exciting new guy on the block, but he's not anymore. Yet he also has about as much experience as she does (though she spent the last year and a half governing, while he ran for president). It's tough.

My advice: get the time machine out, go back 3 weeks, Obama pick Clinton. Then McCain would never respond with Palin but instead a more conventional GOP pick like Romney. Obama-Clinton easily beats McCain-Romney. Done deal. Of course we don't have time machine. I think Obama made the wrong VP choice, and it is now obvious. HRC can't get out there that much as she'll start making people wonder why Obama didn't just pick her instead of Biden, which will gin up more resentment among disaffected Dems leaning Obama but who don't want to vote for either of these tickets.

It appears that the McCain campaign has arranged for Charlie Gibson to interview Palin in Alaska over a two-day period this Thursday and Friday. It sounds like it will be a feel good kind of story in friendly to Palin territory.

Obviously, this is designed to add to the Republican narrative of reformers on the side of regular Americans. And, the McCain camp is building up interest by keeping her away from the media. So, when she finally does talk, everyone will be paying attention.

I am at a loss. I don't know what Obama should do!

Maybe they should use pictures of polar bears drowning in the Arctic, and planes shooting at wolves, and the one of Palin crouching over the dead moose with blood spilling onto the snow. And have Republicans screaming in the background "Drill, Baby, Drill!" Then follow with a smiling McCain and Palin.

This is SO typical. By all intents and purposes, Democrats should be cleaning McCain's clock! But, Republicans have the killer instinct. The Democrats do not. Obama needs to get it.


Biden was the safe pick, which was a mistake for Obama who has not run a safe campaign and who has defied conventional wisdom at every turn. Biden, in reality, brings him nothing but an alleged help on the experience issue. But, Obama can't win on the experience issue, he has to win on the issues issue.

He should have picked Jim Webb or Tim Kaine who would have likely solidified a win in VA and got him the election. Delaware has, what, 3 electoral votes? Or, a hispanic from the South or West.

Obama-Biden should run an ad featuring CCR's Bad Moon Rising, and, much like the Daily Show did on Friday night, do side-by-side frames of McCain promising the same things Bush promised in his acceptance speeches, along with footage from Iraq, etc...

The whole idea is that, with McCain-Palin "trouble is on the way," just like it was when America bought into Bush. Twice. If emotion is what it takes to persuade people, then so be it.

Once again, the Republicans have determined the framework and the Democrats are responding. No matter how many lies were told about/by Sarah Palin, they were stated as fact, and barring some kind of Palin meltdown those lies are what people are going to believe and remember, not the rebuttals. We are not dealing with logic here. Obama/Biden somehow need to seize the initiative and re-frame and re-define her before it's too late...there's no other way.

I've disagreed with a lot of what has been said in the political press about this. The Obama campaign needs to discredit Palin and especially McCain. It is not nearly enough to draw issue contrasts. Rick Davis is not being foolish when he says the campaign is about a composite of both candidates. People vote on issues but they vote on issues as part of that larger composite.
The Obama campaign's huge, HUGE problem right now is that McCain and Palin enjoy high favorability ratings (usually in the high 50's or even 60s). What that means is that Palin and McCain could say things that are not credible or even false and many people would believe them or at least not disbelieve them.
Expect the campaign to get nastier from the Republicans. If McCain is 58% favorable and Obama is 49 or 50%, McCain probably wins by picking up indies and disaffected dems.
I saw Biden on Meet the Press today and it seems like the Obama communications effort is completely MIA. They need to go after Palin as negative, saracastic, political, and exaggerating. McCain should be viewed as a loose cannon with no new ideas and lots of old ideas from G.W.B. These have to be succinct, easily communicated messages in both paid and free media.
Palin has way, way too much credibility right now (in part due to praise from democrats!). Her punches against us are more effective when people view her as a national leader and an honest hockey mom. Obama people, wake up!

One more thing (just in case someone actually reads this). STOP making the lack of Palin press interviews the "hook" into Palin! This makes NO sense and only sets her up for another victory. All she has to do is give a press interview on her terms (which she doing- Thank you Charlie Gibson) and finish it. Then what happens? She succeeds yet again at impressing the world with her leadership potential! She probably won't screw up the interview and even if she does, it won't matter that much. Remember how G.W.B. handled press interviews? You have to discredit her and change the narrative from "rising star Sarah Palin" to "Sarah Palin: a political pro who knows how to hurl an insult and tell a whopper." Sarah Palin: A celebrity with no substance who together with John McCain will continue G.W.B.'s policy of stretching the truth.

Experience should be framed as "knowledge." Obama clearly understands foreign and domestic policy. Palin does not. She has to cram for the Vice Presidency. Why this is not brought up more often and they keep talking about "executive experience" as the measuring stick is frustrating. She has no experience thinking or talking about national or international issues. Every surrogate should mention this and not try to compare their years of experience, as if that's the only measurement.

Many interesting comments here, some smart, some less so. But you are all missing the point, though some have come close.

You are confusing strategy with tactics, as Barack Obama remarked in a different context.

The response to Palin -- she's the mayor of a small town, she's unprepared, she's right-wing etc -- are all tactics. As are getting women to campaign for her, focusing on McCain's age, etc. As would be putting a woman on the ticket simply and only to try to get women's votes.

The selection of Palin was a strategic decision that changes the entire nature of the campaign. Tactical changes to try to respond to this move are of limited effectiveness and cannot change the outcome.

To sum up: The themes of the campaign this year are change and experience. The democrats had only to run against Bush to win, and Obama proved to be the most effective anti-Bush democrat. McCain, on the other hand, has to run against Obama AND Bush, and also has to radically remake his party (to expand the Republican voter base by adding independents and others).

This situation favored Obama and he entered his convention slightly ahead of McCain. And here is where strategy comes in.

In chess a player sacrifices a pawn or other lesser piece to execute a winning strategy. In this case McCain sacrificed his strongest issue, experience, in order to steal the change theme from obama.

Why did he do this? Two facts are clear:
1. everyone who was going to vote for Mccain on the issue of experience was already on his side

2. He was losing to Obama

Hillary Clinton tried the experience theme (the 3AM ad) and although it slowed Obama, she lost. Similarly, although McCain was running a decent race, the terrain was so unfavorable that given the high level of enthusiasm of Democrats, the huge number of new voters, the desire for change was going to overwhelm concerns about experience.

So, he tore up the game plan (which was to run as a moderate and try to get independent/moderate voters who worried about experience, while hoping not too much of the conservative base sits it out) and wrote a new one -- the all-Western reform ticket.

Now, it's possible that Obama will come up with his own strategic change to counter McCain's. But I'm not seeing that. As I said, if all you have to offer is new tactics, you will not win.

The Obama campaign should respond to Mr. McCain, not Mrs. Palin. The only head fake of this election has been the pretense that Mrs. Palin was chosen to target supporters of Mrs. Clinton. Instead, she was chosen to energize then Republican base, especially social conservatives. This allowed Mr. McCain to reclaim the mantle of bipartisan leader without losing that base.

The Obama campaign should stress the fact that he and the Democratic party believe that government should do its job better, not that it should be larger. This will take economic expertise, management skills, science and technology, and new ideas on planning the future of health care and social security.

Since 1994, the Republican party has believed that government can only do harm, except in the area of defense. This had led to the idea that the goal of political leadership should be to hobble most of the departments of the executive branch. The only good outcomes of domestic legislation, in this view, are to tilt the playing field in the direction of certain well-positioned business interests. In fact, much of defense legislation has the same goal for the Republicans. Finally, this idea that government can do no good has also led to the idea on both sides of the aisle that earmarks are the highest use of government money.

In foreign policy, the Republican idea is that only one tool is useful, and that is military might. This military might should be used in every case, and the economic cost should be forgotten. The Democratic idea must be that the U.S. must have the strong military, the best diplomatic corps, and a moral sense that regains the respect of free countries around the world.

In the end, Mr. Obama has only better ideas on his side. If it becomes a story of narratives, as Mrs. Noonan has implied, the Republican team will win.

To gamechanger:

Okay, I see your point, but how would Obama change strategy? He IS the change candidate. How do you expose McCain as the FAKE change candidate?

Obama should ignore Palin, she is a dangerous ground to thread on being a woman. Anything can be termed sexiest.

But Biden can slug it out with her while doing to McCain what Palin is doing to Obama.

Going after Palin:

I love Biden's answer that he believes life begins at conception but that the issue is bigotry. I should not impose my belief and morals on a secular world. This is what Democrats have failed to articulate on the abortion issue. It is not about life but about religious bigotry.

The pro life label should not be ceded to the republicans. McCain is not shy about trying to steal the change message is he.

How can you be pro life and anti-gun control? How many people die from lack of gun control compared to abortions? The statistics will be interesting.

At best Palin is pro foetal life and anti woman life, since she opposes abortion even when the mother's life is threatened.

Does Palin support premarital sex?

Palin is typical Republican hypocritical chritianity a christianity not of individuals spiritual life and faith in God but Christianity as a weapon to attack opponents, milk and gain political advantage, yet like Newt Gingrich and Henry Hyde be as sinful as Bill Clinton and have mistresses all over the place. The Devil is the one who sins and poses as holier than thou.

These issues can be addressed and attacked with mentioning anybody's name.

It is time to unmask these devils who call themselves the christian right. Christ would never be found in their midst.

Ayoola

Swift-boat McCain. I'm serious. It worked for Bush in South Carolina in 2000, and it can work again. None of this namby-pamby stuff we've been getting from the Obama campaign of late. None of this over-intellectualizing and hypothesizing about how policies would work in different situations (e.g. today's nuance on taxes).

What we need to hear for the next month is that McCain is unstable, prone to blowing up in a hail of expletives (Lord knows they have enough documented evidence to work with) and that he is joined at the hip to Bush and Darth with the biggest swing towards the administration of any voting pattern in Congress. We need to be hearing about how McCain has gone from 77 percent presidential support to 100 percent, even while everyone else has been drifting away from Bush. We need to hear about how McCain wants even more extreme borrowing and extreme wars. We need to know that Obama is coming for us with a life preserver and McCain is coming at us with a concrete block.


Gamechanger:
You make an interesting point but I do not think a major gamechange or large-scale shift in strategy would be well received at this late stage in the campaign. Moreover, the terrain isn't Obama's problem. Voters are looking for change and have soured on the Republican party and G.W.B. McCain's success is becuase he has been branded by his campaign (and by many democrats!) as an honest public servant, who tries to do the right thing and who has the guts to stand up for reform. They are branding Obama as all talk and a tax and spender. McCain's communication effort is working, ours is not. I think that should be the focus of the change in gears if there is one.

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far left wing radicals
to show that she is not a far lefty like either obama.
or just have biden write her speeches using other peoples words.

The Freddie/Fannie bailout is big news. Another example of Republican incompetence, yes. But also a classic example of main street bailing out wall street. This should play very well in some of the hard hit rust belt states. The comments section of the Times hardly a populist forum is full of outrage about the way this thing was structured. Most of the comments indicate these people know a lot about the economy. The amount of anti-Bush feeling is amazing. Two themes: the unfairness of it, the rich getting away with murder; and the total incompetence of the management of these two organizations. I would hammer both themes with More of the Same?


Agree with DBX. 1) Swiftboat mcCain, only it won't be swiftboating, it'll be the truth. McCain is unstable, prone to blow up, vulgar, joined to Bush and Darth. Stress his vulgarity. We women don't like vulgarity
2)Get Oprah back on the campaign trail. She has her own charisma, which speaks to the heart. She can effectively counteract the weird combo of Palin's new superhero appeal. And she speaks to the kind of folks that are captivated by Palin. If she would be willing.
3) I understand that Sarah isn't playing well on Latino TV, that latina mothers don't want her as a role model for their families with her unmarried pregnant high school daughter. Let's get some working middle-class, religious, Hispanic and white mothers to have ads criticizing this woman and her family choices. Let's not have intellectuals critiquing her, but other women from small towns and small neighborhoods.
3) David Gergen said obama should surround himself with his new cabinet members, informed people on the crises confronting the new president. it wouldn't hurt to have more competent experienced people criticizing mccain on his stupid economic policies. People who speak to working class people, to back up Joe Biden.
4) and finally, Attack, attack, attack. Some of the current democratic "attack" ads have background music that sounds like Sesame Street. The 90 percent ad had cute little bees. This is war. Obama has to prove he's able to be ruthless as well as inspiring. FDR was also eloquent, but certainly he was able to be ruthless. I know lots of intelligent men who just can't bring themselves to vote for Barack because they just don't think he's macho enough. I think he's one of the bravest men I know. But he has to be able to attack effectively, and not half heartedly.

Finally description of Sarah: in part her ruthlessness is her appeal--She manages to be ruthless and vicious, as well as pretty and maternal. what an amazing combination. A new archetype: catwoman with a family.
Posted by: gingerale | September 7, 2008 10:23 PM

Thoughts from a diehard Obama supporter:

1. No more Mr. Nice Guy: Why are you afraid of being called nasty? Why all the "McCain is a war hero, but ..." prefaces. If you believe that human lives, treasure, and the prospects of future generations have been criminally squandered by Bush/McCain (as I do), then you sure as hell should be angry at this failed leadership. Sarah Palin (from the party of the status quo) conveyed more urgency for change than you do. What happened to the fierce urgency of now? Why not start a countdown in your stump speech, chronicling daily the missed opportunities that are occurring under the Republican's watch. What made Palin's speech endearing is that she owned up to being nasty and was not repentant. It's easier to trust someone who owns up to their dark side.

2. You've got to lie a little: The public immediate acceptance of Sarah Palin confirms that Americans like to be lied to. So team Obama: Start lying about the other guy and put them on the defensive.

3. Keep it simple, stupid: You sucked in the Rick Warren forum because you're still stuck on nuance. You were talking to Warren rather than playing up to the camera and your TV audience. Save the sincerity and nuance til after inauguration day. And even so, get ready to play on paranoia and fear if you expect to get your agendas past the right wing oil/military industrial complex who won't be on your side.


4. Keep your glow on: What happened to the Obama smile. It used to be that you couldn't find a bad picture of Obama. Now most of the pictures show you frowning and that incandescent smile, when it pops, is fleeting. Why not work that magic?

5. Show us your dark side: Politics is a blood sport. I think that deep down you're as ruthless as any other politician. You want to look pretty and not get your hands dirty. You'd better ditch some of that narcissism before the first debate- because they'll massacre you. America's not going to give the keys to the throne to a neat freak. They know that their president might have to go in the sewer for his country? We won't feel we know you until you show us that you can manage and funnel your dark side for a purpose. Guess what, the progressives want you to win so badly that they'll forgive you for being you.

6. You can be a warrior too :) Play the game. The whole South Ossetia/ Georgia/ Russia dustup was manufactured to build up McCain. I think that you and your handlers were very stupid to allow the press to photograph frolicking in the waves at the same time that "war hero" McCain was giving announcing that "We are all Georgians now" and bragging about his friendship with what's his name, president of Georgia. If you can't interrupt your family vacation to "secure the homeland" (BS, of course, but the press is playing along), then you're failing the CIC test. Couldn't your team have rigged a photo op with a conference table surrounded by foreign policy luminaries and read a "strong" statement verging on the belligerent tone of McCain's? Everybody knows we're not going to war with Russia and that we have limited options. Why not have a very public pow wow with your dear friend Sarkozy. Why not milk those foreign introductions since they all want you to win anyway?

7. Sell a piece of your soul: Just keep thinking, What would Hillary do? We know you want it, Obama, but you've played Mr. Cool all your life and you've never let them see you sweat. This is more vanity than principles. It's ironic that Hillary gained the most respect from her competitors and the press when she began her most blatant pandering, working nonstop to keep your train from reaching the station. You know you'll have to do it sooner or later. You've got less than 60 days to sell a piece of your soul for America's sake. Aren't we worth it? Maybe part of the meaning of the dogwhistle that "you don't love your country enough" is that you're not willing to surrender any of the "Obama mystique." We can see the whining and arrogance in your eyes. That's not fair, your eyes are saying, I shouldn't have to stoop. Guess what? You have to get on your knees and stoop if you love us bad enough. It's dysfunctional, but it's very human, and very much the American ethos. This is not an aristocracy, there's no room for Prince Charming here.

8. Where the hell are your troops: You need to hire some gunslingers pronto. David Plouffe may be a genius in field operations, but when I've read his press conferences or letters, he doesn't put the fear of God in me. David Axelrod and Marc Gibbs, 2 low key guys who had a game plan for winning the nomination. Now, seem befuddled. I read an interview that gave me the impression that the balance of power has shifted and they're deferring more to you. Big mistake. You can't do it. How about writing some more eloquent speeches and practicing like hell for the debates? Let new gunslingers start doing the dirty work and enlisting an army for that battle.

9. Shoot to kill: You're barely cracking the knuckles of your adversaries Bush/McCain/Palin. Why not use a shotgun and attacks all three with one soundbite. Then, they can't holler sexism.
By the way, your soundbites suck. Paging Begala and Carville (if you don't hold a grudge). Don't be an Al Gore and throw out the Clinton gold with the bathwater. They're mean and nasty enough. Yes, they don't want you to win, but players at the top of their game like to show how it's done. Exploit their vanity.

Summary: be a prizefighter not a poker player.
If you can't play with the big boys, then you deserve to lose. You wouldn't have the balls to subdue or take the fight our enemies.

And where the hell are your pitt bull surrogates? Where are you hiding your closet Obamacans? What will it take to get Colin Powell to come out? This is where you show your negotiating mojo.

McCain-Palin up by 10 points in the latest Gallup!

Folks, the Messiah obviously needs more than advice from Atlantic readers, he is going to sink plumb out of site if he has another week like this.

Maybe he should consider joining the Army.

Allow the media to conduct their vet.....help them if needed. Her temperament is quesetionable (ie firing librarian, police chief, etc). Her former support for pork and earmarks are worth looking at. The claim that Alaska's proximity to Russia equals foreign policy experience is laughable and needs to be questioned. But most importantly, just let her talk. She used the convention to show us her smugness and condescending attitude. She's even written a letter, using the voice of God. Who thinks s/he's the "one." Palin talks about how her policy positions on Iraq and oil drilling are "God's Will." This is insane....reminds me of Congresswoman Michelle Bachman.

Use the choice of Palin to strengthen the "third term of George Bush" campaign theme.

Whoever feels they'd like to have a mooseburger with Palin should remember that they wanted to have a beer with Bush. And, look how that turned out for the country.

Remind people that Bush got into office on his charm, his ability to make regular people feel he was a straight shooter like them. People identified with Bush's flaws, his mangled English (substitute teenage shotgun marriage daughter)and his stick it to the elite pose.

eight years later, who did Bush stick it to? Regular people. It's the elite who are wealthier than at any time since the 1920's.

There's a charming, tough talking politician who sees the world in clear, simple good versus evil terms, and is guided by a personal relationship with God. His name is George Bush.

What's the difference between Sarah Palin and George Bush? Lipstick.


One more thing - stop saying McCain is an honorable person, you respect his service, he's your friend etc. If he was honorable, he wouldn't have picked Sarah. You've told people how much you respect his service already so it's time to get down and dirty. Tear him down. I know Obama doesn't believe in that, but we need him to do it. The republicans do whatever they have to even when their opponent is Max Cleland. Why are democrats so "nice" and "respectful"? This is not the time. This is not the election to do that. When has McCain said Biden is his friend? Why does Biden go on for 5 mins that he will do anything for McCain?

There's no need to do anything. The press will begin the vetting process. Tea anyone?

"The Freddie/Fannie bailout is big news. Another example of Republican incompetence, yes."

Really? A parade of Democratic operatives has passed through the executive suites at those two GSEs -- heck the ousted head of Obama's VP selection committee was a former CEO of Fannie Mae. So was Clinton Administration official Franklin Raines. You parade your ignorance by blaming this slow motion fiasco on Republicans. A Republican Treasury Secretary is cleaning up the mess now.

Well, Obama had better do something quick because McCain just took a 10-point lead in the latest USA Today/Gallup poll over the weekend.

"Well, Obama had better do something quick because McCain just took a 10-point lead in the latest USA Today/Gallup poll over the weekend"

Nah, Obama's smoking.

This is just McCain's election bounce working through. Nate Silver reckons an election bounce is worth 5-6% to a candidate. RealClearPolitics has McCain ahead by ahead by 1%, Pollster.com still has Obama in the lead.

Expect McCain's bounce to dissipate over the next week. My expectation is that Obama will come out ahead in a week or less.

RealClearPolitics is an average. Most of the polls in their selection were taken partly during or just after the Republican Convention. I'm sure the same is true on Pollster.com. McCain isn't supposed to get his full bounce until Monday or Tuesday.

Plus, Bush led by 11 after his convention in 2004 and he never lost the lead, even though it tightened up.

I have no faith in the American people. They are totally shallow and personaity obsessed.

Dems should point out that the Palin selection is the most hypocritical thing McCain could have done. While saying he wants to unite the US, he deliberately chooses to reignite the cultural wars by choosing the most divisive candidate possible as a way of keeping voters' eyes away from any and all issues.

Obvious talking point: McCain would rather divide America than lose an election

I love reading these comments.

See you at the Inauguration!

Funny, the "10 Point lead in Gallup" for McCain as broadcast above seems to be a myth. All sites are reporting 4.

Lying Republicans? What a shocker.

Among "likely voters" Gallup has him ten-points ahead. (scroll down a little)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110107/Republicans-Enthusiasm-Jumps-After-Convention.aspx

I know this is a thread for Obama voters I'm just saying it's not so much a lie as maybe misleading. (Their definition of "likely voters" could be wrong or they're just an outlier)

It's being reported on RealClearPolitics as a 10-point jump and it is being averaged in that way. It's a 4-point McCain lead in registered voters, but a 10-point McCain lead among likely voters, 54-44.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-07-Inside-poll-GOP_N.htm

Point out that choosing her was a gimmick...McCain's gimmick. In herself she's a poor choice....as McCain's gimmick she's proof of his cynicism and the lies he's willing to tell to advance himself.

Obama needs to come up with an out-of-the box, game changing ad that will attract loads of press and be memorable for years and years.
I'd love to see them do an animated ad done like a fairy tale of an elephant who wants to change but needs to accept he is an elephant and the debt, mortgage crisis, health care crisis, spending in Iraq, loss of jobs are all his fault. In the end, no matter what the elephant says, he is still an elephant.
Also, Obama really needs to realize that he doesn't need to answer the question he is being asked. For example:
Sen. How can you level your recent comments on The Surge?
Answer: The issue here is whether American tax payers want to keep spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, while the Iraq government basks in a huge surplus.

Just saw Jennifer Palmieri on MSNBC defining
"Change" from the Obama perspective.Terrible performance. If you send out a surrogate have them prepared. The best surrogate Obama has is Clair McCaskill. This woman didn't sound as thoogh she knew what she was talking about reflected basly on the campaign. This is crunch time, get your best people out there. Also Time to mention the Bush record.

Just say the McCain-Palin on the other thread.

Palin claims to "have stopped the Bridge to Nowhere".

Lie. Let's hope the counter-ad is ready soon.

Nate Solver suggests some good punchy counter-ads from Obama (www.fivethirtyeight.com).

But is the Obama campaign listening? I sense a feeling of doom and defeatism creeping in to his supporters. He needs to re-ignite his campaign;, and more importantly his campaigners. The flaming enthusiasm of two weeks ago seems to have dissipated just as the Republicans have caught fire.

How should the Obama campaign respond to the Palin phenom?


Roll over and die. It is over for the phoney Obamie now that a true Reformer and Bringer of Change has entered the race.

Obamie is a pretty talking empty suit and most voters see right through him.

DON'T Ignore her; Lump her together with Bush-McCain, and attack her extremist positions - creationism in schools, vetoed early childhood education, flip-flopping on the bridge to nowhere, etc. In so doing, may even be able to better define McCain and less mavericky and more reactionary, hard-core righty, like her.

Funny how the left gets angry just because the other side does better. You want to play dirty, you wanna-be unifier?

Obama is once again the underdog. He does best when coming from behind. I think the McCain/Palin bounce, which will most likely become a steady tie with Obama, is the best thing that could've happened to his campaign. Stay on the ropes, play sound defense with the occasional jab...then knock em out in late Sep./October. Knock them out with ideas, though, not attacks. Know hope.

Love the line about "George Bush with Lipstick"...

Obama should not attack her directly. Biden I'm not so sure. If he doesn't attack her immediately, he should at least be ready to do so in the debate. But the attacks should be strictly on her record.

In the meantime, however, they should run tough ads making it clear that:

1) Her bridge to nowhere claim is bogus. Show the picture of her wearing the "Nowhere" shirt when she was campaigning for the Bridge. Make it clear that she lied in her introductory hello to America (I'd lead in with, "Sarah Palin's introduction to America"... cut to Palin saying the told the government "thanks but no thanks on the Bride to Nowhere"...)

2) She's the "pork Queen", hiring a lobbyist with close ties to the indicted Ted Stevens, and proceeded to bring pork to Walessa to the tune of $1K+ per capita.

3) That she screwed up her signature project in Walessa, the sports complex, and massively increased debt.

4) She is under investigation for abuse of power, and she is now stonewalling the investigation.

Repeat those 4 points over and over and over and over, with "abuse of power, pork, lobbyists, debt and mismanagement.... more of the same"

Talk about the LIFE issues like ending the war, saving the environment, decreasing capital punishment, eliminating torture, providing health care and helping to decrease the NEED for abortion.

I disagree with those who say that the Obama campaign has to focus on McCain and ignore Palin. Obama needs a quick 30 second spot that says:

"John McCain was for his immigration reform legislation...before he was against it.

Sarah Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere, before she was against it...infact she even built the 'road' to the Bridge to Nowhere.

McCain opposes taxing oil company profits, but applauds Palin for raising taxes on oil companies in Alaska.

At a time when America needs leadership, McCain-Palin offer confusion...like how many homes McCain owns."

What ever it is now it's going to return to our addiction to petroleum. that's the stickler, we all want cheaper gas, but what we really need is it to be more expensive to create real change. Which candidate will have the courage to say that? Will the people want to hear that?, someone needs to say it and it won't be listened too if it's Obama.Thats whats unfortunate.

Get some news anchor to point out that Governor Palin herself, in her own press release, stated on the record that the bridge was canceled because the earmark was just too small: “[I]t’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island”

See http://gov.state.ak.us/archive-28635.html, reproduced in full below:

Gravina Access Project Redirected

September 21, 2007, Juneau, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today directed the Department of Transportation and Public Facilities to look for the most fiscally responsible alternative for access to the Ketchikan airport and Gravina Island instead of proceeding any further with the proposed $398 million bridge.

“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer,” said Governor Palin. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island,” Governor Palin added. “Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.” The Department of Transportation has approximately $36 million in federal funds that will become available for other projects with the shutdown of the Gravina Island bridge project. Governor Palin has directed Commissioner Leo von Scheben to review transportation projects statewide to prepare a list of possible uses for the funds, while the department also looks for a more affordable answer for Gravina Island access.

“There is no question we desperately need to construct new roads in this state, including in Southeast Alaska, where skyrocketing costs for the Alaska Marine Highway System present an impediment to the state’s budget and the region’s economy,” said von Scheben.

“The original purpose of this project was to improve access to Gravina Island, and we will continue to work with the community to help them attain that goal,” von Scheben said.

The commissioner said his department would continue to work with local officials to discuss future plans for development of Gravina Island.

Palin is a very angry person. Her frenetic activities conceal a volcanic temper, a need to explode. She wasn't kidding when she described herself as a pit bull with lipstick. In this enormous repository of volcanic anger, she is like McCain.

The Obama campaign needs to portray McCain and Palin as explosive hotheads, time bombs of anger, the last kind of people one would want in positions of such power.

No drama Obama. Obama needs female surrogates - front and center. Voters need to hear from Hillary and other prominent Democratic women legislators and Senators how out of touch and harmful electing Sarah Palin would be for women. Period. Where is the polling to determine and quantify if these women swooning for Palin have any idea of her positions on women's rights? Since she is clearly a pawn in McCain's bid for the Presidency, Obama (his female surrogates) need to expose her on the ISSUES...then the love affair with Palin will wane.